What would the start of the season be without bad news :-\
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1189318667730862081?s=21
Could be much worse. Creighton is down 2 starters already. Hopefully he will be 100% by the Purdue game.
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on October 29, 2019, 06:27:38 PM
Could be much worse. Creighton is down 2 starters already. Hopefully he will be 100% by the Purdue game.
I guess he's missed the start of the previous two seasons due to injury according to Paint Touches twitter feed.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 29, 2019, 06:32:35 PM
I guess he's missed the start of the previous two seasons due to injury according to Paint Touches twitter feed.
We'll have to get him a walking boot up to his knee and have him hang out at Jimmy John's so he can fully engross himself in the Marquette culture.
He's in crutches according to twitter
He's wearing a knee brace according to someone at the exhibition game!
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Yeah this would be disastrous.
It is inconvenient.
Thinking it is just a precaution. No need to risk injury in an exhibition
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on October 29, 2019, 07:37:55 PM
Thinking it is just a precaution. No need to risk injury in an exhibition
Any basis for this, or just speculating? Not liking the further evaluation later this week indication.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on October 29, 2019, 07:37:55 PM
Thinking it is just a precaution. No need to risk injury in an exhibition
You mean you're hoping it's just a precaution.
Quote from: StillWarriors on October 29, 2019, 07:42:27 PM
Any basis for this, or just speculating? Not liking the further evaluation later this week indication.
Agreed. He is not moving well. I will be very surprised if this is not a season-ending injury. He looked very solid in the Open Practices. Huge blow to the season if it is as bad as it appears.
What just happened. We went from sitting out a meaningless exhibition to definitely a season ending injury before it starts?
Told him not to breakdance during the season.
Quote from: 94Warrior on October 29, 2019, 07:47:29 PM
Agreed. He is not moving well. I will be very surprised if this is not a season-ending injury. He looked very solid in the Open Practices. Huge blow to the season if it is as bad as it appears.
That's a massive leap. You stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?
He's on crutches and has a knee brace on......that doesn't mean it's season ending but it sure doesn't mean he's just sitting out a meaningless exhibition.
Who said he was sitting out 1 game? You mean the vague twitter post stating he will be further evaluated later this week.
Translation: 'It's not good, but we aren't willing to say anything official until the MRI confirms what we believe.'
Just sayin it doesn't look good in person, and I've torn 2 acl's .
He's moving around the bench area without the crutches during warmups. Slowly, but he's putting weight on it.
Quote from: 94Warrior on October 29, 2019, 07:54:55 PM
Who said he was sitting out 1 game? You mean the vague twitter post stating he will be further evaluated later this week.
Translation: 'It's not good, but we aren't willing to say anything official until the MRI confirms what we believe.'
Just sayin it doesn't look good in person, and I've torn 2 acl's .
It wasn't vague. It stated 'sprain'.
Quote from: Oldgym on October 29, 2019, 07:55:43 PM
He's moving around the bench area without the crutches during warmups. Slowly, but he's putting weight on it.
Yes, you can do that with a torn acl. I really hope I'm wrong.
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Quote from: MuMark on October 29, 2019, 07:44:17 PM
You mean you're hoping it's just a precaution.
Nope, not hoping. Thinking.
Quote from: The Hamberdler on October 29, 2019, 08:02:28 PM
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I hope you are right and I am wrong.
Watching him from the upper deck get up and walk to the team huddle each timeout, I think it's pretty obvious they are going to have to amputate.
Only question is 'can he tough it out on the bench until the end of this game, or must they operate immediately??'
Does Wojo have a post game presser for exhibition games? We could have answers within the hour.
Quote from: Its DJOver on October 29, 2019, 08:08:29 PM
Does Wojo have a post game presser for exhibition games? We could have answers within the hour.
Yes. But he's going to play mind-games with 94 warrior
I'm guessing it's somewhere in between. But him walking doesn't rule out what 94 thinks happened. Most people can walk after a torn ACL.
If it's what they say (knee sprain) it could be a multiple week recovery. But he could be walking gingerly just because the knee brace is uncomfortable or restricted.
Nobody knows.
Quote from: GarciasWorld on October 29, 2019, 08:15:05 PM
I'm guessing it's somewhere in between. But him walking doesn't rule out what 94 thinks happened. Most people can walk after a torn ACL.
If it's what they say (knee sprain) it could be a multiple week recovery. But he could be walking gingerly just because the knee brace is uncomfortable or restricted.
Nobody knows.
lol
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 29, 2019, 08:06:25 PM
Watching him from the upper deck get up and walk to the team huddle each timeout, I think it's pretty obvious they are going to have to amputate.
But will he still be able to play?
Quote from: drewm88 on October 29, 2019, 08:18:07 PM
But will he still be able to play?
If Otule could play with one eye, why not one leg?
Greg just limped off. Looks to be fatal.
RIP.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 29, 2019, 08:30:39 PM
Greg just limped off. Looks to be fatal.
RIP.
I have first hand information that they had to put him down. It's a real bummer.
Cheerleader just threw his amputated leg into the crowd. Someone in row three got a great souvenir.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 29, 2019, 08:06:25 PM
Watching him from the upper deck get up and walk to the team huddle each timeout, I think it's pretty obvious they are going to have to amputate.
I don't think he's out for the year, just until April.
So does this mean Jayce can take a redshirt and be eligible for next year?
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 29, 2019, 08:37:25 PM
So does this mean Jayce can take a redshirt and be eligible for next year?
By rule no. But by waiver and/or future rule, yes and be paid $1,000,000 for doing so.
Quote from: Jay Bee on October 29, 2019, 08:36:21 PM
Cheerleader just threw his amputated leg into the crowd. Someone in row three got a great souvenir.
I'll look for that on E-Bay.
Wojo just said Jayce is defintely going to miss some time........mentioned weeks.....doesn't sound season ending but wasn't just sitting out a meaningless exhibition game
Quote from: MuMark on October 29, 2019, 09:04:01 PM
Wojo just said Jayce is defintely going to miss some time........mentioned weeks.....doesn't sound season ending but wasn't just sitting out a meaningless exhibition game
Yep, it'll be awhile for sure. That wasn't anything akin to 'no biggie'. There goes the 2 bigs approach in the interim.
Quote from: 94Warrior on October 29, 2019, 07:47:29 PM
Agreed. He is not moving well. I will be very surprised if this is not a season-ending injury. He looked very solid in the Open Practices. Huge blow to the season if it is as bad as it appears.
Can we wait for some info....
2-4 weeks is what it says online, that's typical recovery...so maybe back by Orlando??
Well Wojo now has an excuse if he doesn't meet expectations again this year.
I guess he can't go to the podium and spit out "we've played Xavier and Villanova twice, we have the youngest roster in the big east, etc, etc." but he can use Jayce as a crutch if needed
Quote from: Bad_Reporter on October 29, 2019, 09:16:01 PM
Well Wojo now has an excuse if he doesn't meet expectations again this year.
I guess he can't go to the podium and spit out "we've played Xavier and Villanova twice, we have the youngest roster in the big east, etc, etc." but he can use Jayce as a crutch if needed
Very cool.
Certainly sounds like no fans want to see Wojo losing to me! Just different ways of being equally good Marquette basketball fans here. Nothing wrong with some productive critiquing!
Hey Jesse, you still liking the posts of 18-22 year old college students on Instagram and claiming Marquette requires their basketball players to do community service so they can take videos of it and put them out on social media so that when they get blasted by Indiana the alums can still feel happy that they're flying private to do so?
Go Marquette buddy! I'm guessing those tickets from MU player families from all your networking are going to be flying in with posts like these!
Quote from: jsglow on October 29, 2019, 09:06:36 PM
Yep, it'll be awhile for sure. That wasn't anything akin to 'no biggie'. There goes the 2 bigs approach in the interim.
Sure got quite around here after Wojo's interview. I hate being right...
Quote from: 94Warrior on October 29, 2019, 09:53:33 PM
Sure got quite around here after Wojo's interview. I hate being right...
But it wasn't a torn ACL like you were surmising. It's a sprain, he will miss SOME time, but he WILL be back
Quote from: 94Warrior on October 29, 2019, 09:53:33 PM
Sure got quite around here after Wojo's interview. I hate being right...
You wanna go ahead and define "right"
Quote from: 94Warrior on October 29, 2019, 07:47:29 PM
I will be very surprised if this is not a season-ending injury.
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2019/10/29/marquette-beats-st-norbert-exhibition-game/2490825001/
"He's going to be week to week," MU head coach Steve Wojciechowski said. "There's no definitive timetable for his return. Obviously, for us, we're hoping for sooner rather than later."
Quote from: muguru on October 29, 2019, 10:12:53 PM
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2019/10/29/marquette-beats-st-norbert-exhibition-game/2490825001/
"He's going to be week to week," MU head coach Steve Wojciechowski said. "There's no definitive timetable for his return. Obviously, for us, we're hoping for sooner rather than later."
Not exactly the torn ACL that we were told by someone who didn't see the injury, hasn't seen Jayce's knee, hasn't seen scans of Jayce's knee, and made a diagnosis based on observations of how he was walking while he had a large brace on (that he presumably isn't very comfortable with since he's only had it for about 24 hours). Oh, and the credentials of this "knee expert" are that he's had knee injuries before.
Seriously guys. I get that everyone is an "internet expert", but can we once just trust that the coaching/medical staff know what they're doing and not make judgments before something official is made public.
Quote from: Its DJOver on October 29, 2019, 09:57:32 PM
You wanna go ahead and define "right"
I said, it looked bad. It is bad. That's how I define right.
If you heard Wojo's interview and interpreted it as no big deal, I really don't know what to tell you.
Have a good night, and keep the faith.
Quote from: 94Warrior on October 29, 2019, 09:53:33 PM
Sure got quite around here after Wojo's interview. I hate being right...
Lucky for you that you were wrong.
Quote from: 94Warrior on October 29, 2019, 10:22:07 PM
I said, it looked bad. It is bad. That's how I define right.
If you heard Wojo's interview and interpreted it as no big deal, I really don't know what to tell you.
Have a good night, and keep the faith.
This
Quote from: 94Warrior on October 29, 2019, 07:54:55 PM
Who said he was sitting out 1 game? You mean the vague twitter post stating he will be further evaluated later this week.
Translation: 'It's not good, but we aren't willing to say anything official until the MRI confirms what we believe.'
Just sayin it doesn't look good in person, and I've torn 2 acl's .
Implies that you think its torn.
This
Quote from: 94Warrior on October 29, 2019, 07:57:26 PM
Yes, you can do that with a torn acl. I really hope I'm wrong.
Implies that you think it's torn.
This
Quote from: 94Warrior on October 29, 2019, 08:36:32 PM
I don't think he's out for the year, just until April.
Implies that you think its torn.
Wojo confirmed that it is not torn. That makes you wrong. You can throw a CYA prefix in front of your posts implying that its torn, but that doesn't change the implication. Remind me again your credentials to diagnose knee injuries without looking at them. You immediately went worst case without hearing anything official from MU or Wojo. People here have a tendency to do that. I have a problem with it.
Quote from: muguru on October 29, 2019, 09:57:13 PM
But it wasn't a torn ACL like you were surmising. It's a sprain, he will miss SOME time, but he WILL be back
I wasn't surmising anything. I said it looked bad. It is bad.
It could be a tear, we don't know without the MRI. But, it clearly is serious enough to miss considerable time.
Everything is a sprain until the MRI results are in.
Quote from: 94Warrior on October 29, 2019, 10:22:07 PM
I said, it looked bad. It is bad. That's how I define right.
If you heard Wojo's interview and interpreted it as no big deal, I really don't know what to tell you.
Have a good night, and keep the faith.
No, you said:
I will be very surprised if this is not a season-ending injury.It's OK. You were reacting based on your own experience. And who knows, you might end up being right because we really don't know how bad it is yet.
But own it.
You didn't say "it looked bad." You said you think it is a season-ending injury. I think you are smart enough to know the difference between those two things.
Quote from: 94Warrior on October 29, 2019, 10:27:13 PM
I wasn't surmising anything. I said it looked bad. It is bad.
It could be a tear, we don't know without the MRI. But, it clearly is serious enough to miss considerable time.
Everything is a sprain until the MRI results are in.
From what I heard, it is NOT torn, the ACL is fine. It's a sprain.
Quote from: 94Warrior on October 29, 2019, 09:53:33 PM
Sure got quite around here after Wojo's interview. I hate being right...
You weren't right....
I may have overreacted, we will find out soon enough. I still don't like the sounds of 'he will be evaluated later this week'. Normally, the doctors will wait for swelling to subside, before taking an MRI.
Regardless, none of this is good news. He will most likely be out for an extended period of time, and then the decision will have to be made if he plays or applies for an additional year.
I may not be 100% rational about MUBB, but anybody who saw him on the bench and thought he'll miss 1 game, is more delusional than me.
When did Wojo confirm it was not torn? I heard the entire interview, and that was not at all what was said. The results of the MRI are not even in yet.
I am sorry, but some of you have to come to grips with the fact that Jayce will not be playing any time soon.
"He was checked out by doctors last night and again today, and really he's gonna be week to week". Since you are the knee expert, has anyone, ever, in the history of knee injuries recovered from a tear in a time-frame that can be described as "week to week"? If it was a tear, or Wojo suspected that it could be a tear, would he put the "week to week" time-frame out there? He could have said month to month, indefinitely, or we don't expect him back at all. Wojo continues to say "we're hoping sooner than later". Again, implying that he will be back. This sideline diagnoses BS has to stop.
There is a HUGE difference between "Jayce will not be playing any time soon", and "I don't think he's out for the year, just until April". No one is expecting him to suit up against Loyola next week, but only one person is writing him off for the entire season.
I looked at his knee. Looked like a knee. Will probably be load bearing for the rest of his life.
Quote from: 94Warrior on October 29, 2019, 10:57:18 PM
When did Wojo confirm it was not torn? I heard the entire interview, and that was not at all what was said. The results of the MRI are not even in yet.
I am sorry, but some of you have to come to grips with the fact that Jayce will not be playing any time soon.
You're just digging deeper and deeper
Quote from: JakeBarnes on October 29, 2019, 11:12:37 PM
I looked at his knee. Looked like a knee. Will probably be load bearing for the rest of his life.
My sources have also confirmed this.
Quote from: Its DJOver on October 29, 2019, 11:07:32 PM
"He was checked out by doctors last night and again today, and really he's gonna be week to week". Since you are the knee expert, has anyone, ever, in the history of knee injuries recovered from a tear in a time-frame that can be described as "week to week"? If it was a tear, or Wojo suspected that it could be a tear, would he put the "week to week" time-frame out there? He could have said month to month, indefinitely, or we don't expect him back at all. Wojo continues to say "we're hoping sooner than later". Again, implying that he will be back. This sideline diagnoses BS has to stop.
There is a HUGE difference between "Jayce will not be playing any time soon", and "I don't think he's out for the year, just until April". No one is expecting him to suit up against Loyola next week, but only one person is writing him off for the entire season.
Being out until April was tongue in cheek, I really don't believe we'll be in the National Championship game.
And just to help you out, I don't think the guy who said he thought it needed to be amputated was serious, either.
And yes, mcl tears are week to week. Meniscus tears are week to week. Partial Acl tears can be week to week. Heck, athletes have played on complete acl tears. I wish I knew less about knees than I do. But, what do I know about Jayce's knee? Not much, none of us do. You have your opinion, I have mine. None of us will know anything definitive until all the info is in.
All I know is the team I love took a big hit yesterday. Jayce is a very good player, and will be missed for as long as he is out.
So if you openly admit that you don't know about the injury why were you declaring yourself right? This is what I don't get that frustrates me. You can FEAR that he will be out for an extended period of time, but then when Wojo says that he won't be out for an extended period of time what pretzel logic you use to decide that you're right, I'll never know.
You are not a doctor. You did not see the injury. You don't know if a scan has been performed. You will not see the results of said scan. You are not qualified to diagnose even if you could see the scans. You admit this much now, but several hours and goalpost shifts ago you were confident enough to be "very surprised if it isn't a season ending injury". Don't get mad that you got called out for your BS, don't post BS diagnoses.
Are you really that dense? I don't know if anything is torn. How would I?
I said it looks bad, and it is. I said I'd be surprised if it isn't season-ending. And, I will be. That's an opinion, not a diagnosis.
I don't know what interview you listened to, I heard Wojo say he WILL be out for an extended period of time. Are you this annoying in person?
All I know about Jayce's knee:
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Quote from: 94Warrior on October 29, 2019, 11:35:15 PM
And just to help you out, I don't think the guy who said he thought it needed to be amputated was serious, either.
Not only was I serious, I was right.
Dis gives 'im tyme ta work on his free throw shootin'. Next man up, aina?
Quote from: 94Warrior on October 30, 2019, 12:06:56 AM
Are you really that dense? I don't know if anything is torn. How would I?
I said it looks bad, and it is. I said I'd be surprised if it isn't season-ending. And, I will be. That's an opinion, not a diagnosis.
I don't know what interview you listened to, I heard Wojo say he WILL be out for an extended period of time. Are you this annoying in person?
I injured my left shoulder a while back. It still hurts quite a bit. Just sayin'...
Was he in a knee immobilizer or was it a hinged brace? If anything, this reminds of Davante's injury in 2012, when no one knew what happened or when he was coming back including the team...
Quote from: MUDPT on October 30, 2019, 07:09:23 AM
Was he in a knee immobilizer or was it a hinged brace? If anything, this reminds of Davante's injury in 2012, when no one knew what happened or when he was coming back including the team...
I think a hinged brace but I was up in the upper deck so I might be wrong.
Quote from: 94Warrior on October 30, 2019, 12:06:56 AM
Are you really that dense? I don't know if anything is torn. How would I?
I said it looks bad, and it is. I said I'd be surprised if it isn't season-ending. And, I will be. That's an opinion, not a diagnosis.
I don't know what interview you listened to, I heard Wojo say he WILL be out for an extended period of time. Are you this annoying in person?
Again, if you don't want to get mad at people for calling out your BS, don't post BS. For some reason, you're upset that I'm going to trust Wojo and the team doctors more than I trust someone who is not a doctor and has not seen the injury. There's nothing wrong with saying "hope he's alright, lets wait to hear something official before jumping to conclusions".
Quote from: 94Warrior on October 30, 2019, 12:06:56 AM
Are you this annoying in person?
You mean, do I call out people making medical assessments without a medical degree or any information about the injury in real life? I'll just say that doing what you're doing is "dumb and dangerous".
All sprains are tears.....the question is operable needed tear......or other....
Quote from: Its DJOver on October 30, 2019, 07:20:34 AM
Again, if you don't want to get mad at people for calling out your BS, don't post BS. For some reason, you're upset that I'm going to trust Wojo and the team doctors more than I trust someone who is not a doctor and has not seen the injury. There's nothing wrong with saying "hope he's alright, lets wait to hear something official before jumping to conclusions".
I really don't have a problem with people jumping to conclusions either, but don't say "I hate being right," when you clearly weren't right.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on October 30, 2019, 08:00:09 AM
I really don't have a problem with people jumping to conclusions either, but don't say "I hate being right," when you clearly weren't right.
It's not necessarily that he jumped to conclusions, it's the fact that it surrounds an injury, and he's hiding behind "it's my opinion". When ners jumped to a conclusion about Wojo 4 games into his tenure, that was an opinion. An extremely premature one IMO, but an opinion nonetheless. In a situation like this, you literally aren't qualified to have an opinion with the information that is currently available. Jayce was wearing pants all night from what I saw, so no one here has even seen his knee, and if you saw him with his pants off last night, you probably have more important questions to be answering anyways.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on October 30, 2019, 08:00:09 AM
I really don't have a problem with people jumping to conclusions either, but don't say "I hate being right," when you clearly weren't right.
Exactly this.
Fan boards were invented so yahoos like all of us could jump to conclusions, so jump away. But he wasn't right. Not yet, anyway.
Maybe he'll be "lucky" and will get to say "I told you so" in the end.
if it is season ending can he redshirt and return next year?
Quote from: burger on October 30, 2019, 07:37:53 AM
All sprains are tears.....the question is operable needed tear......or other....
That is not true.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 30, 2019, 07:16:29 AM
I think a hinged brace but I was up in the upper deck so I might be wrong.
Correct. Hinged brace.
Do we actually know anything or are the same 4-5 dumbasses gonna turn this string like most others into their own personal mental masturbation??
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on October 30, 2019, 12:03:12 PM
Do we actually know anything or are the same 4-5 dumbasses gonna turn this string like most others into their own personal mental masturbation??
Lmao that's funny. Anyways we all know we just aren't gonna post it on here
Quote from: Oldgym on October 30, 2019, 12:00:03 PM
Correct. Hinged brace.
is that good? Bad? indifferent?
Speakin' as a doktor, dis iz infinitely bedder dan total immobilization, aina?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 30, 2019, 01:03:12 PM
Speakin' as a doktor, dis iz infinitely bedder dan total immobilization, aina?
Dentist, lets be clear
Quote from: GoldenEagles32 on October 30, 2019, 09:07:41 AM
if it is season ending can he redshirt and return next year?
Hate to say it, but if it is a season ending injury, the team next year will be really better off. If they can get Dawson, starts at power forward,
then the 2 other frosh recruits can get there feet wet and not have to play small next year. Line-up of John (Johnson back-up). Dawson, Bailey,
McEwen and Torrance might be very good.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on October 30, 2019, 01:07:23 PM
Dentist, lets be clear
That qualifies him to practice medicine in Pottsylvania and 37 other 3rd world countries
Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on October 30, 2019, 12:24:27 PM
is that good? Bad? indifferent?
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Quote from: GoldenEagles32 on October 30, 2019, 09:07:41 AM
if it is season ending can he redshirt and return next year?
He would have to get a waiver of the 5 year rule. Similar to what Chris Otule got.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 30, 2019, 07:16:29 AM
I think a hinged brace but I was up in the upper deck so I might be wrong.
My name is Jayce Johnson. I play for the I can't name my school and Mascot but you already know who I play for. When I injured my knee I used the XYZ hinged knee brace, the best hinged knee brace on the market as it reduced my recovery time in half. Take it from me Jayce Johnson, XYZ is the best.
XYZ Milwaukee's leader in hinged knee braces.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on October 30, 2019, 03:27:48 PM
My name is Jayce Johnson. I play for the I can't name my school and Mascot but you already know who I play for. When I injured my knee I used the XYZ hinged knee brace, the best hinged knee brace on the market as it reduced my recovery time in half. Take it from me Jayce Johnson, XYZ is the best.
XYZ Milwaukee's leader in hinged knee braces.
not if Marquette already has a deal with them, or a rival brace company
Quote from: lawdog77 on October 30, 2019, 04:21:01 PM
not if Marquette already has a deal with them, or a rival brace company
Depends. If the NCAA's regulations are similar to what California has passed, and other states are considering, he could do endorse the rival brace, just not wear it during official team activities.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 30, 2019, 04:32:47 PM
Depends. If the NCAA's regulations are similar to what California has passed, and other states are considering, he could do endorse the rival brace, just not wear it during official team activities.
....and if the owner of XYZ is an MU alum, but not a booster would that be permitted?
Quote from: muwarrior69 on October 30, 2019, 04:46:40 PM
....and if the owner of XYZ is an MU alum, but not a booster would that be permitted?
According to who?
According to California's law, that would be fine. I suspect the NCAA might ultimately craft rules that say no.
Keep in mind, just because the NCAA now says it's going to allow NLI doesn't mean Califiornia and the other states are pulling their legislation.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 30, 2019, 04:56:15 PM
According to who?
According to California's law, that would be fine. I suspect the NCAA might ultimately craft rules that say no.
Keep in mind, just because the NCAA now says it's going to allow NLI doesn't mean Califiornia and the other states are pulling their legislation.
So between the Home Depot Guy (11.5B, UW grad not Madison) and the Kohl family (7.6B), they could keep UW in high priced endorsed players for years to come, out bidding MU at every turn if they so wished and there is nothing MU can do about it, but yeah it it's good for the players. Not saying this will happen but it is a possibility.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on October 30, 2019, 05:59:29 PM
So between the Home Depot Guy (11.5B, UW grad not Madison) and the Kohl family (7.6B), they could keep UW in high priced endorsed players for years to come, out bidding MU at every turn if they so wished and there is nothing MU can do about it, but yeah it it's good for the players. Not saying this will happen but it is a possibility.
As could hundreds of other billionaires. And frankly, if they wanted to do that now, I'm confident they could find a Larnell to get that done.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 30, 2019, 04:56:15 PM
According to who?
According to California's law, that would be fine. I suspect the NCAA might ultimately craft rules that say no.
Keep in mind, just because the NCAA now says it's going to allow NLI doesn't mean Califiornia and the other states are pulling their legislation.
To my knowledge, the NCAA doesn't prevent athletes from having jobs with alumni and/or boosters. If they going to allow endorsements, I'm not sure why they would prohibit deals with alumni and/or boosters.
Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on October 30, 2019, 12:24:27 PM
is that good? Bad? indifferent?
Good. Immobilizer would indicate a worse prognosis.
hey guys are we sure jayce is still among the living tonight?
Quote from: Jay Bee on October 30, 2019, 07:44:16 PM
hey guys are we sure jayce is still among the living tonight?
Quote from: Jay Bee on October 30, 2019, 07:44:16 PM
hey guys are we sure jayce is still among the living tonight?
Having a zombie on the team would be kind of bad-ass. Even if it does only have one leg.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on October 30, 2019, 05:59:29 PM
So between the Home Depot Guy (11.5B, UW grad not Madison) and the Kohl family (7.6B), they could keep UW in high priced endorsed players for years to come, out bidding MU at every turn if they so wished and there is nothing MU can do about it, but yeah it it's good for the players. Not saying this will happen but it is a possibility.
Pretty sure that if you built the school an arena, you would be considered to be a booster.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on October 30, 2019, 07:47:10 PM
Having a zombie on the team would be kind of bad-ass. Even if it does only have one leg.
Would be extremely intimidating underneath the basket.
Quote from: Newsdreams on October 30, 2019, 08:34:49 PM
Would be extremely intimidating underneath the basket.
"Do not take it inside against that monster" - Coach McDermott
Quote from: THRILLHO on October 30, 2019, 08:41:21 PM
"Do not take it inside against that monster" - Coach McDermott
Creighton could match up against five dead bodies and McDermott would still find a way to lose the game at the last second.
Quote from: Jay Bee on October 30, 2019, 07:44:16 PM
hey guys are we sure jayce is still among the living tonight?
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fox6 just had an update at the 9 o'clock broadcast. As you can see, not looking good
Quote from: StillAWarrior on October 30, 2019, 07:47:10 PM
Having a zombie on the team would be kind of bad-ass. Even if it does only have one leg.
Would the Zombie Apocalypse be worse than Hiroshima or Hausergate?
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on October 30, 2019, 09:40:46 PM
Would the Zombie Apocalypse be worse than Hiroshima or Hausergate?
C'mon man... NOTHING ever could be worse than Hausershima!!
Quote from: THRILLHO on October 30, 2019, 08:41:21 PM
"Do not take it inside against that monster" - Coach McDermott
I kind of assumed the Creighton guys were already dead with the way they flop around the court.
Quote from: WarriorPride68 on October 30, 2019, 09:13:47 PM
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fox6 just had an update at the 9 o'clock broadcast. As you can see, not looking good
For those of us who didn't see it, what did they report?
Holy crap, you guys really roasted poor 94.
He was perhaps a bit quick to jump to conclusions, but its reasonable to assume that Jayce will be out awhile. Knee sprains generally are not good news. Wojo's postgame comments on it Tuesday night were 24 hours after the injury occurred - if something was torn, its legitimate that he wouldn't know yet. Generally they let the knee swelling subside first.
Fingers crossed we can get him back by Thanksgiving, but my somewhat uninformed guess would be that we're looking at a more length absence.
Maybe that'll take some of the heat off you, 94.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on October 31, 2019, 10:23:53 AM
Holy crap, you guys really roasted poor 94.
He was perhaps a bit quick to jump to conclusions, but its reasonable to assume that Jayce will be out awhile. Knee sprains generally are not good news. Wojo's postgame comments on it Tuesday night were 24 hours after the injury occurred - if something was torn, its legitimate that he wouldn't know yet. Generally they let the knee swelling subside first.
Fingers crossed we can get him back by Thanksgiving, but my somewhat uninformed guess would be that we're looking at a more length absence.
Maybe that'll take some of the heat off you, 94.
Considering that he confidently declared Jayce out for the season before knowing the extent of his injury, the roasting was well deserved. Depending on the severity, Jayce could be back in a couple of weeks. It really just depends.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on October 31, 2019, 10:23:53 AM
Holy crap, you guys really roasted poor 94.
He was perhaps a bit quick to jump to conclusions, but its reasonable to assume that Jayce will be out awhile. Knee sprains generally are not good news. Wojo's postgame comments on it Tuesday night were 24 hours after the injury occurred - if something was torn, its legitimate that he wouldn't know yet. Generally they let the knee swelling subside first.
Fingers crossed we can get him back by Thanksgiving, but my somewhat uninformed guess would be that we're looking at a more length absence.
Maybe that'll take some of the heat off you, 94.
Key words that others have omitted.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on October 31, 2019, 10:23:53 AM
Holy crap, you guys really roasted poor 94.
He was perhaps a bit quick to jump to conclusions, but its reasonable to assume that Jayce will be out awhile. Knee sprains generally are not good news. Wojo's postgame comments on it Tuesday night were 24 hours after the injury occurred - if something was torn, its legitimate that he wouldn't know yet. Generally they let the knee swelling subside first.
Fingers crossed we can get him back by Thanksgiving, but my somewhat uninformed guess would be that we're looking at a more length absence.
Maybe that'll take some of the heat off you, 94.
He was roasted because he declared himself right. He was not right.
This is a really weird pissing match. Can't wait for the real opening game.
Quote from: TSmith34 on October 31, 2019, 10:52:04 AM
Can't wait for the real opening game.
Loyola is evil and must be sprained.
Quote from: BrewCity83 on October 31, 2019, 09:53:10 AM
For those of us who didn't see it, what did they report?
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Quote from: WarriorPride68 on October 31, 2019, 11:50:50 AM
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Can traveling be called on a double amputee?
Quote from: MUfan12 on October 31, 2019, 11:26:18 AM
Loyola is evil and must be sprained.
Post of the day!
Any updates on Jayce?
Quote from: drbchilds on November 04, 2019, 01:28:46 PM
Any updates on Jayce?
Jeff Goodman
@GoodmanHoops
Marquette's Steve Wojciechowski told me that Jayce Johnson (knee) will not play in the season opener and and is "week to week." Utah transfer is a major key for this year's team with the loss of the Hauser Brothers.
Quote from: drbchilds on November 04, 2019, 01:28:46 PM
Any updates on Jayce?
He's out tomorrow night for sure. Wojo says he's week-to-week
Would really like to have him against purdue n Harmes
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on November 05, 2019, 09:55:32 AM
Would really like to have him against purdue n Harmes
But that could put him in harmes' way!
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 04, 2019, 01:32:30 PM
He's out tomorrow night for sure. Wojo says he's week-to-week
Not surprised. I have a niece who's a freshman at MU, and she heard that the fitting for his prosthetic limb went very well. It even came with its own walking boot.
Quote from: 4everDawson on November 05, 2019, 12:33:31 PM
Not surprised. I have a niece who's a freshman at MU, and she heard that the fitting for his prosthetic limb went very well. It even came with its own walking boot.
I heard this procedure was the inspiration for the Vader scene at the end of Revenge of the Sith
Jayce was walking without crutches at the Loyola game.
He appears to be making great progress with his new prosthetic leg.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on November 06, 2019, 12:41:27 AM
Jayce was walking without crutches at the Loyola game.
He appears to be making great progress with his new prosthetic leg.
I heard that the leg was real, but the rest of the body was a prosthetic. Amazingly lifelike. The advances they've made in the technology really are remarkable.
A friend of mine had a prosthetic body once, and he was unable to play basketball for an entire season. :o
They made him better than he was. Better...stronger...faster...
Where was Dexter Akanno last night. Did he RedShirt?
Quote from: Earl Tatum on November 06, 2019, 09:01:06 AM
Where was Dexter Akanno last night. Did he RedShirt?
Yeah, Jayce's new leg took the last guard spot so he had no choice.
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=59244.0 (https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=59244.0)
No crutches or brace for him last night. Actually was walking pretty well.
Quote from: MUDPT on November 06, 2019, 09:08:49 AM
No crutches or brace for him last night. Actually was walking pretty well.
Should be back for Orlando if everything goes as planned.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on November 06, 2019, 09:10:22 AM
Should be back for Orlando if everything goes as planned.
Ratz. Would be nice to have play against the diseased rodents.
Quote from: tower912 on November 06, 2019, 07:43:12 AM
They made him better than he was. Better...stronger...faster...
For us oldies....
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Quote from: Earl Tatum on November 06, 2019, 09:01:06 AM
Where was Dexter Akanno last night. Did he RedShirt?
Yes...He was in street clothes on the bench
Quote from: MarquetteDano on November 06, 2019, 10:53:26 AM
For us oldies....
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I am glad somebody got it.
Word is the redshirt was so Dexter could donate his healthy leg to Jayce. Once he gets used to 6'4" guy's leg instead of a 7 footer's leg he should be good to go. Can only go to his right, however.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on November 06, 2019, 01:06:55 PM
Word is the redshirt was so Dexter could donate his healthy leg to Jayce. Once he gets used to 6'4" guy's leg instead of a 7 footer's leg he should be good to go. Can only go to his right, however.
Mbwake had an extra leg to donate of the size needed. Missed opportunity.
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on November 06, 2019, 10:51:52 AM
Ratz. Would be nice to have play against the diseased rodents.
The sooner the better, but I would be elated if he is back in time to play in Orlando. As long as he is ready for the conference season, I would view this as disaster averted.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 06, 2019, 01:08:38 PM
Mbwake had an extra leg to donate of the size needed. Missed opportunity.
Unfortunately, Mbwake apparently could not control his third leg.
Quote from: The Scat on November 06, 2019, 03:01:21 PM
Unfortunately, Mbwake apparently could not control his third leg.
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Quote from: MUDPT on November 06, 2019, 09:08:49 AM
No crutches or brace for him last night. Actually was walking pretty well.
He was dressed in his uniform and jogged in and out of the tunnel so I'd say he'll be back sooner than later.
That's great to hear. Think he can be a difference-maker for this team.
Likely not playing this week V Purdue.
Bummer.
For wisky?
Quote from: fjm on November 11, 2019, 03:03:43 PM
Likely not playing this week V Purdue.
Bummer.
Not great. Kind of thought he'd be the difference maker in this one.
Quote from: Marquette4life on November 11, 2019, 03:05:39 PM
For wisky?
No, I don't even think he will play for whiskey. Might not work well with the anti inflammatories he is taking.
Yeah our bigs seemed to struggle against 7'+ players last season. Thought Jayce would make a difference.
No official word for tonight yet.
Quote from: fjm on November 13, 2019, 12:25:05 PM
No official word for tonight yet.
Wojo said a day or two ago that Jayce isn't playing tonight. 'Week to week.'
Quote from: GarciasWorld on November 11, 2019, 03:33:01 PM
Yeah our bigs seemed to struggle against 7'+ players last season. Thought Jayce would make a difference.
Theo's ability to avoid foul trouble tonight could be the key to the game without Jayce available. Such a disappointment as he really seems to be a perfect fit for a hole on the roster coming into the season. Glad we are talking week to week though and not worse.
Quote from: StillWarriors on November 13, 2019, 12:39:35 PM
Theo's ability to avoid foul trouble tonight could be the key to the game without Jayce available. Such a disappointment as he really seems to be a perfect fit for a hole on the roster coming into the season. Glad we are talking week to week though and not worse.
I would not play him until December, let him work on being healthy for the conference schedule.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on November 06, 2019, 10:53:26 AM
For us oldies....
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But did you know in the above episode, the Sasquatch was played by none other than Andre the Giant?
During the 70's, he already had the hair for it.
Quote from: jsglow on November 13, 2019, 12:27:35 PM
Wojo said a day or two ago that Jayce isn't playing tonight. 'Week to week.'
He technically said he was unlikely.
Quote from: BCHoopster on November 13, 2019, 12:44:13 PM
I would not play him until December, let him work on being healthy for the conference schedule.
I'd play him as soon as he's good to go and not at any more risk than usual of further injury. If that's December, so be it. The conference season is going to be a gauntlet with the middle of the pack teams likely beating each other into apparent mediocrity. Every non-conf potential win over good competition will be huge come March.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on November 13, 2019, 01:19:45 PM
He technically said he was unlikely.
Thanks for any correction. I just saw the clip once. Frankly the best part was his comment about simulating Haarms by putting Marotta on top of 2 chairs.
Put him in tonight nh
Quote from: BCHoopster on November 13, 2019, 12:44:13 PM
I would not play him until December, let him work on being healthy for the conference schedule.
No! Bring him back as soon as possible...they could really use him in Orlando. Important games there. Though, that is almost December I suppose.
He is in a suit during warmups FYI.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on November 13, 2019, 07:46:10 PM
He is in a suit during warmups FYI.
It would be pretty cool if he ripped it off and was wearing a jersey underneath.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 13, 2019, 07:53:03 PM
It would be pretty cool if he ripped it off and was wearing a jersey underneath.
Yeah, he should work with that weirdo couple that did the halftime show. Jayce could duck under their curtain in a suit and
voila emerge in his uni.
I got confirmation last night that he's not yet cleared to practice.
Quote from: jsglow on November 14, 2019, 10:06:20 AM
I got confirmation last night that he's not yet cleared to practice.
It would be nice if he could get some minutes in Orlando, that is in two weeks.
Transfers usually take a little time to get into the swing of things. I went from thinking he was one of our most important pieces to now hoping he's not very important, because with the time he's missing I'm not sure he'll make a huge impact.
Quote from: GarciasWorld on November 14, 2019, 10:25:14 AM
Transfers usually take a little time to get into the swing of things. I went from thinking he was one of our most important pieces to now hoping he's not very important, because with the time he's missing I'm not sure he'll make a huge impact.
We have four December creampuffs for him to get sea legs prior to conference season. If he's back by then I think he'll be fine.