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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: Cheeks on September 15, 2019, 07:52:59 PM
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There was an article last week about how the legends of Rock are mostly in their 70’s and a huge wave will be gone in the next 10 years or so. Iconic guys like McCartney, Daltry, Townsend, Jagger, etc. Bands don’t exist like that anymore.
Eddie Money died this week. Ric Ocasik today.
RIP
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If only we could go back to a "better" time.
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I would have never guessed that Ocasik was five years older than Money.
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He was example A of how ugly guys who could play music used that to end up with beautiful women. It's magic.
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He was example A of how ugly guys who could play music used that to end up with beautiful women. It's magic.
You might think that....but he was just what she needed.
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There was an article last week about how the legends of Rock are mostly in their 70’s and a huge wave will be gone in the next 10 years or so. Iconic guys like McCartney, Daltry, Townsend, Jagger, etc. Bands don’t exist like that anymore.
Eddie Money died this week. Ric Ocasik today.
RIP
It's the evolution of the music industry. Singers and bands in the '70s had to earn their success and were given opportunities to do it. Springsteen's first two albums didn't sell even though they were critically acclaimed, today he'd never get a chance to make Born to Run. Today it's about singles, not albums, and starting in the '80s so much new music was overproduced, bands were just stuck together and not built for longevity. Live shows don't matter either, it's about streaming and downloads.
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Ocaseks secret was that he knew tonight....she comes.
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It's the evolution of the music industry. Singers and bands in the '70s had to earn their success and were given opportunities to do it. Springsteen's first two albums didn't sell even though they were critically acclaimed, today he'd never get a chance to make Born to Run. Today it's about singles, not albums, and starting in the '80s so much new music was overproduced, bands were just stuck together and not built for longevity. Live shows don't matter either, it's about streaming and downloads.
I was just reading about Billie Eilish. Dave Grohl, Eddy Vedder and Thom Yorke (Radiohead) among others are big fans and have brought their kids backstage to meet her. Thom Yorke told her "You're the only one doing anything f*****g interesting these days."
When record companies we're trying to sign her they were telling her they were going to get this producer or that producer who had big hits to produce her album. Her brother does all her producing and she told the music execs my brother or nothing. Anyone else and I'm not me. They caved.
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I tried... I really tried. My 14 year old and I had a "music exchange" day. I played for him a lot of my stuff and he played for me a lot of his stuff. WTF happened to music???
btw, he knew and even liked a lot of my stuff, like Zeppelin, Jimi, Clapton, etc.
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My 12 year old took guitar lessons this past summer. He walked in and stated his goals to be able to play the chords to 'Back in Black', Should I stay or Should I Go', etc. His teacher told me it was so refreshing to have a kid who wanted to play something other than Imagine Dragons.
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It's the evolution of the music industry. Singers and bands in the '70s had to earn their success and were given opportunities to do it. Springsteen's first two albums didn't sell even though they were critically acclaimed, today he'd never get a chance to make Born to Run. Today it's about singles, not albums, and starting in the '80s so much new music was overproduced, bands were just stuck together and not built for longevity. Live shows don't matter either, it's about streaming and downloads.
Live shows matter more than ever from the artist's perspective. It's about the only place they make their money these days.
Also, a lot of "old man yells at cloud" stuff in here, and I say that as an old man who's occasionally horrified by his kids' musical tastes (but there's hope ... my daughter begged me to take her to Riot Fest last week).
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My 12 year old took guitar lessons this past summer. He walked in and stated his goals to be able to play the chords to 'Back in Black', Should I stay or Should I Go', etc. His teacher told me it was so refreshing to have a kid who wanted to play something other than Imagine Dragons.
Good that those are pretty easy songs to learn for a newbie. Should keep his interest piqued.
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He is having fun.
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I was just reading about Billie Eilish. Dave Grohl, Eddy Vedder and Thom Yorke (Radiohead) among others are big fans and have brought their kids backstage to meet her. Thom Yorke told her "You're the only one doing anything f*****g interesting these days."
When record companies we're trying to sign her they were telling her they were going to get this producer or that producer who had big hits to produce her album. Her brother does all her producing and she told the music execs my brother or nothing. Anyone else and I'm not me. They caved.
I don't understand her or her music or the people who like her music.
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I don't understand her or her music or the people who like her music.
Tell it to the "Things I don't Get" thread.
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If only we could go back to a "better" time.
Before my time, but I do like Glenn Miller, Tommy Dorsey and Benny Goodman.
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I don't understand her or her music or the people who like her music.
I like her stuff in that is definitely different that most anything else out there right now, I just wonder how sustainable the breathy, semi-catatonic vocal style is going to be.
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I tried... I really tried. My 14 year old and I had a "music exchange" day. I played for him a lot of my stuff and he played for me a lot of his stuff. WTF happened to music???
btw, he knew and even liked a lot of my stuff, like Zeppelin, Jimi, Clapton, etc.
::) It evolved as music always does. Rock and roll had people tearing their clothes. Horrifying people who grew up on Lawrence Welk.
As its an easy target, I personally have defended electronic music repeatedly to people. They think its literally easy as playing Candy Crush on a computer. Not realizing that the most successful DJ/producers play multiple instruments at a super high level and can translate any of their tracks into an acoustic piano or guitar track with ease and there is a high level of composition skill needed.
People like what they grew up with, its totally understandable and fine. But thinking music died when they stopped seeking out new music is one of my biggest pet peeves.
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::) It evolved as music always does.
PBS is currently showing a Ken Burns series on Country Music. I knew little of this history and it has been fun to watch and learn.
If there is any consistency to this story's message it is how music constantly evolves, borrows, mixes, and changes.
We listen to what we like...the next guy may like something else
...that all of us listen to something and enjoy it
....well that is all that matters
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PBS is currently showing a Ken Burns series on Country Music. I knew little of this history and it has been fun to watch and learn.
If there is any consistency to this story's message it is how music constantly evolves, borrows, mixes, and changes.
We listen to what we like...the next guy may like something else
...that all of us listen to something and enjoy it
....well that is all that matters
As someone with zero interest in country music, I have found the series to be fascinating.
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As someone with zero interest in country music, I have found the series to be fascinating.
Interesting, I only really like the old stuff myself... I guess I should have recorded it.
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Ken Burn’s Country Music series continues to fascinate.
I remember wearing out my first copy of Dylan’s Nashville Skyline back many years ago.
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Haven't seen the series, and don't consider myself a country fan, but the hall of fame/museum in Nashville was fascinating. Not sure how redundant it would be of the doc, but definitely worth a visit.
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Fare Thee Well Robert Hunter. The best songwriter/storyteller to ever put pen to paper
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Fare Thee Well Robert Hunter. The best songwriter/storyteller to ever put pen to paper
To a deadhead, yes.
To most of us, not so much.
You want lyrics? Try Kris Kristopherson.
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Never been too big on lyrics. I'll give it a 95 Dick, I like the beat. If I want poetry i'll read Keats.
with some exceptions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGxjIBEZvx0
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To a deadhead, yes.
To most of us, not so much.
You want lyrics? Try Kris Kristopherson.
Agree.
Even Rolling Stone's top 100 songwriters includes Hunter only for co-writing with Jerry Garcia.
https://www.rollingstone.com/interactive/lists-100-greatest-songwriters/#bob-dylan
I enjoy a performer I already liked who, I later learn was also a heck of a songwriter, too...like...
Bee Gees, Brian Wilson, Smokey Robinson, Johny Cash, Willie Nelson, Prince, Buddy Holly,Niel Diamond, James Brown, Dolly Parton, Billy Joel