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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: tower912 on May 26, 2019, 03:18:22 PM

Title: Markus and the FCA
Post by: tower912 on May 26, 2019, 03:18:22 PM
https://www.tmj4.com/video/sports/marquettes-markus-howard-keynotes-fellowship-of-christian-athletes-event

I didn't see this posted.    More good publicity.   
Title: Re: Marku and the FCA
Post by: Pakuni on May 26, 2019, 03:23:18 PM
Quote from: tower912 on May 26, 2019, 03:18:22 PM
https://www.tmj4.com/video/sports/marquettes-markus-howard-keynotes-fellowship-of-christian-athletes-event

I didn't see this posted.    More good publicity.

What they won't show is Markus hogging all the green bean casserole at the buffet.
Title: Re: Marku and the FCA
Post by: Cheeks on May 26, 2019, 04:22:34 PM
Hopefully the atheists aren't pissed off.
Title: Re: Marku and the FCA
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 26, 2019, 04:29:51 PM
Quote from: Cheeks on May 26, 2019, 04:22:34 PM
Hopefully the atheists aren't pissed off.

Why do you feel the need to make this comment?
Title: Re: Marku and the FCA
Post by: Lennys Tap on May 26, 2019, 04:32:10 PM
Quote from: Cheeks on May 26, 2019, 04:22:34 PM
Hopefully the atheists aren't pissed off.

About Markus hogging the green bean casserole? Nah, they're as used to it as most of the other Christians. They think he's earned it and that the world's a better place for it.
Title: Re: Markus and the FCA
Post by: tower912 on May 26, 2019, 04:57:40 PM
I didn't realize green bean casserole was a thing for atheists.
Title: Re: Markus and the FCA
Post by: wadesworld on May 26, 2019, 04:58:05 PM
A select few posters think the publicity for Markus is just to cover up the fact that he's a selfish hero ball player that is all about himself and is enabled to be so by his coach.

I, for one, am very happy he represents Marquette. His being active on the community and his willingness to talk about mental health are very impressive for a kid his age.
Title: Re: Markus and the FCA
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 26, 2019, 07:10:21 PM
Quote from: tower912 on May 26, 2019, 03:18:22 PM
https://www.tmj4.com/video/sports/marquettes-markus-howard-keynotes-fellowship-of-christian-athletes-event

I didn't see this posted.    More good publicity.

:'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Markus and the FCA
Post by: Lennys Tap on May 26, 2019, 09:38:21 PM
Quote from: tower912 on May 26, 2019, 04:57:40 PM
I didn't realize green bean casserole was a thing for atheists.

And I didn't realize it was a thing for FCA members. Lots to be learned reading Scoop!
Title: Re: Marku and the FCA
Post by: Johnny B on May 26, 2019, 10:21:35 PM
Quote from: Cheeks on May 26, 2019, 04:22:34 PM
Hopefully the atheists aren't pissed off.
we are  good thanks
Title: Re: Marku and the FCA
Post by: Johnny B on May 26, 2019, 10:40:04 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 26, 2019, 04:29:51 PM
Why do you feel the need to make this comment?
cuz he is an anti-atheist bigot. probably an anti-anything but Christian bigot as well
Title: Re: Marku and the FCA
Post by: 79Warrior on May 27, 2019, 01:03:30 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 26, 2019, 04:29:51 PM
Why do you feel the need to make this comment?

He needs attention
Title: Re: Marku and the FCA
Post by: Cheeks on May 27, 2019, 01:16:36 AM
Quote from: 79Warrior on May 27, 2019, 01:03:30 AM
He needs attention

Thanks for providing it.....I feel so much better for the day
Title: Re: Markus and the FCA
Post by: tower912 on May 27, 2019, 07:30:12 AM
Needless.
Title: Re: Markus and the FCA
Post by: connie on May 27, 2019, 07:47:28 AM
This is what we get snarky about?  What a bunch of tools.
Title: Re: Markus and the FCA
Post by: Skatastrophy on May 27, 2019, 09:16:32 AM
Quote from: connie on May 27, 2019, 07:47:28 AM
This is what we get snarky about?  What a bunch of tools.


YOU'RE the tool
Title: Re: Markus and the FCA
Post by: connie on May 27, 2019, 09:44:49 AM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on May 27, 2019, 09:16:32 AM
YOU'RE the tool
Proving my point.  Please, educate us all about why you think the treatment given this topic is not worthy of being criticized. Tell us all why you think our team's top player giving a keynote address at the FCA is deserving of ridicule.
Title: Re: Markus and the FCA
Post by: brewcity77 on May 27, 2019, 09:48:55 AM
And it's officially summer at MUScoop.  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Marku and the FCA
Post by: The Thing on May 27, 2019, 09:54:46 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on May 26, 2019, 03:23:18 PM
What they won't show is Markus hogging all the green bean casserole at the buffet.

Ok I'm sorry but this is pretty funny.
Title: Re: Marku and the FCA
Post by: MU86NC on May 27, 2019, 10:12:16 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 26, 2019, 04:29:51 PM
Why do you feel the need to make this comment?
It was pretty funny....
Title: Re: Marku and the FCA
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 27, 2019, 11:02:40 AM
Quote from: MU86NC on May 27, 2019, 10:12:16 AM
It was pretty funny....

The green bean casserole thing was hilarious. The comment I quoted....don't think it was a joke
Title: Re: Markus and the FCA
Post by: Skatastrophy on May 27, 2019, 11:30:49 AM
Quote from: connie on May 27, 2019, 09:44:49 AM
Proving my point.  Please, educate us all about why you think the treatment given this topic is not worthy of being criticized. Tell us all why you think our team's top player giving a keynote address at the FCA is deserving of ridicule.

You just proved MY point.
Title: Re: Markus and the FCA
Post by: Cheeks on May 27, 2019, 11:56:52 AM
Athletes in Action still play exhibition games against D1 programs?  They used to play MU back in the day and had some quality players like Rod Foster on the team.
Title: Re: Markus and the FCA
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on May 28, 2019, 01:45:05 PM
He spoke instead of writing a letter?
Title: Re: Marku and the FCA
Post by: Cheeks on May 28, 2019, 02:33:30 PM
Quote from: Johnny B on May 26, 2019, 10:40:04 PM
cuz he is an anti-atheist bigot. probably an anti-anything but Christian bigot as well

100% not true.  There's a reason I took Islam and Hinduism, two different classes, at Marquette...to broaden my education and belief system. In graduate school at the University of Kansas, that continued with additional education in East Asian Languages and Cultures (my Masters Program), which included courses in Buddhism.  My father didn't belong to any religion until he was in his late 50's when he became a Catholic prior to his death. 

Unfortunately you made an absolutely incorrect statement based on no information about me or my beliefs.
Title: Re: Markus and the FCA
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 28, 2019, 03:15:18 PM
Quote from: connie on May 27, 2019, 09:44:49 AM
Proving my point.  Please, educate us all about why you think the treatment given this topic is not worthy of being criticized. Tell us all why you think our team's top player giving a keynote address at the FCA is deserving of ridicule.

Personally, I am strongly opposed philosophically to FCA, even being a former member. FCA believes consuming alcoholic beverages is a sin and is the sign of an impure lifestyle and makes their leaders sign a pledge acknowledging that they will abstain from alcohol consumption for life.  In their eyes, I sin almost daily.
Title: Re: Marku and the FCA
Post by: MU82 on May 28, 2019, 06:03:19 PM
Quote from: Cheeks on May 26, 2019, 04:22:34 PM
Hopefully the atheists aren't pissed off.

I can't speak for all atheists.

This atheist admires any person who tries to make a positive contribution to society.

This atheist has less admiration for those who look down upon any group and who use chicken-shyte, passive-aggressive methods to taunt those who are different than they are.
Title: Re: Marku and the FCA
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on May 28, 2019, 06:20:24 PM
Quote from: Cheeks on May 28, 2019, 02:33:30 PM
100% not true.  There's a reason I took Islam and Hinduism, two different classes, at Marquette...to broaden my education and belief system. In graduate school at the University of Kansas, that continued with additional education in East Asian Languages and Cultures (my Masters Program), which included courses in Buddhism.  My father didn't belong to any religion until he was in his late 50's when he became a Catholic prior to his death. 

Unfortunately you made an absolutely incorrect statement based on no information about me or my beliefs.
Two Wongs don't make a White.
Title: Re: Markus and the FCA
Post by: rocket surgeon on May 28, 2019, 07:12:21 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 28, 2019, 03:15:18 PM
Personally, I am strongly opposed philosophically to FCA, even being a former member. FCA believes consuming alcoholic beverages is a sin and is the sign of an impure lifestyle and makes their leaders sign a pledge acknowledging that they will abstain from alcohol consumption for life.  In their eyes, I sin almost daily.

why would one sign a pledge to abstain from akahall for life if they may not know they are going to be members of the FCA for life?  hows about one just abstains while they are in the club? if they are still members after say 10 years, hopefully they abided by ALL the things the FCA stipulates to be in good standing; if for life, more of the same

    athletes are sposed to abstain from taking performance enhancing drugs, catholic priests are sposed to pledge abstinence from sex, but we all know how some of that ends...maybe all these "extracurricular rules" are meant to be suggestions, kinda like stop signs, eyn'a??? 
Title: Re: Marku and the FCA
Post by: Cheeks on May 28, 2019, 07:54:55 PM
Quote from: MU82 on May 28, 2019, 06:03:19 PM
I can't speak for all atheists.

This atheist admires any person who tries to make a positive contribution to society.

This atheist has less admiration for those who look down upon any group and who use chicken-shyte, passive-aggressive methods to taunt those who are different than they are.

Does the atheist use former German leader quotes for chicken-shyte approaches to prove their agenda?  How about specific quotes from church leaders?  Only asking, hard to tell....
Title: Re: Marku and the FCA
Post by: MU82 on May 28, 2019, 09:47:15 PM
Quote from: Cheeks on May 28, 2019, 07:54:55 PM
Does the atheist use former German leader quotes for chicken-shyte approaches to prove their agenda?  How about specific quotes from church leaders?  Only asking, hard to tell....

I can see why you were banned for years ... and surely will be again.

Excellent running from the issue and shifting the goalposts, though. You be you, baby.
Title: Re: Markus and the FCA
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 28, 2019, 09:51:54 PM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 28, 2019, 07:12:21 PM
why would one sign a pledge to abstain from akahall for life if they may not know they are going to be members of the FCA for life?  hows about one just abstains while they are in the club? if they are still members after say 10 years, hopefully they abided by ALL the things the FCA stipulates to be in good standing; if for life, more of the same

    athletes are sposed to abstain from taking performance enhancing drugs, catholic priests are sposed to pledge abstinence from sex, but we all know how some of that ends...maybe all these "extracurricular rules" are meant to be suggestions, kinda like stop signs, eyn'a???

The idea is they will be. Here's one of the questions from the agreement student leaders must sign.

"Have you, or will you at this time commit to living a drug, alcohol and tobacco-free life? ____ Yes ____ No"
Title: Re: Markus and the FCA
Post by: Herman Cain on May 29, 2019, 12:24:15 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 28, 2019, 03:15:18 PM
Personally, I am strongly opposed philosophically to FCA, even being a former member. FCA believes consuming alcoholic beverages is a sin and is the sign of an impure lifestyle and makes their leaders sign a pledge acknowledging that they will abstain from alcohol consumption for life.  In their eyes, I sin almost daily.
They put some good teams together and the religion in my experiences was very soft sell . Most kids don't even pay attention to what is being said.
Title: Re: Markus and the FCA
Post by: Galway Eagle on May 29, 2019, 12:32:47 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 28, 2019, 09:51:54 PM
The idea is they will be. Here's one of the questions from the agreement student leaders must sign.

"Have you, or will you at this time commit to living a drug, alcohol and tobacco-free life? ____ Yes ____ No"

For all those pledges it always fascinated me that they don't mention caffeine.
Title: Re: Markus and the FCA
Post by: rocket surgeon on May 29, 2019, 05:45:34 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 28, 2019, 09:51:54 PM
The idea is they will be. Here's one of the questions from the agreement student leaders must sign.

"Have you, or will you at this time commit to living a drug, alcohol and tobacco-free life? ____ Yes ____ No"

i'm a firm believer in the al mcguire rules for life method- your education isn't complete until ya drive the taxi cab and tend the bar.  for those who have never stepped just a little outside the lines of life-good on ya.  my experiences have been not how high one stands at the moment, but from where they have ascended from that can make the difference
Title: Re: Markus and the FCA
Post by: Galway Eagle on May 29, 2019, 05:55:35 AM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 29, 2019, 05:45:34 AM
i'm a firm believer in the al mcguire rules for life method- your education isn't complete until ya drive the taxi cab and tend the bar.  for those who have never stepped just a little outside the lines of life-good on ya.  my experiences have been not how high one stands at the moment, but from where they have ascended from that can make the difference

Drove Uber and was a bouncer. I'm calling it close enough to his education requirement.

But more seriously, the thought process behind the quote of you can be the most educated person in the world but if you only lived in a bubble it's all for nothing is 100% accurate.
Title: Re: Marku and the FCA
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 29, 2019, 12:00:40 PM
Quote from: MU82 on May 28, 2019, 06:03:19 PM
I can't speak for all atheists.

This atheist admires any person who tries to make a positive contribution to society.

This atheist has less admiration for those who look down upon any group and who use chicken-shyte, passive-aggressive methods to taunt those who are different than they are.

I'm with you.  My wife and I ended a relationship with a couple who were in your face Atheists (the wife even wrote a blog post on why it was important for her to immediately identify herself as Atheist to everyone she meets immediately. WTF?  Even as one myself that was uncomfortable and annoying for me. It's no different than a person of faith who tries to shove their beliefs in your face and belittles others for not sharing their belief system.
Title: Re: Marku and the FCA
Post by: Lennys Tap on May 29, 2019, 12:51:08 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 29, 2019, 12:00:40 PM
I'm with you.  My wife and I ended a relationship with a couple who were in your face Atheists (the wife even wrote a blog post on why it was important for her to immediately identify herself as Atheist to everyone she meets immediately. WTF?  Even as one myself that was uncomfortable and annoying for me. It's no different than a person of faith who tries to shove their beliefs in your face and belittles others for not sharing their belief system.

In your face anything is a bad look.
Title: Re: Marku and the FCA
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 29, 2019, 01:54:35 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 29, 2019, 12:51:08 PM
In your face anything is a bad look.

Yep. We all have a reason for developing our likes, our beliefs, our faith system, etc. Don't try and tell me I'm wrong, especially when it comes to drinking alcohol and eating meat!  ;D
Title: Re: Marku and the FCA
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 29, 2019, 03:38:53 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 29, 2019, 12:51:08 PM
In your face anything is a bad look.

There's a that's what she said joke in here somewhere....
Title: Re: Marku and the FCA
Post by: THRILLHO on May 29, 2019, 04:20:15 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 29, 2019, 12:00:40 PM
I'm with you.  My wife and I ended a relationship with a couple who were in your face Atheists (the wife even wrote a blog post on why it was important for her to immediately identify herself as Atheist to everyone she meets immediately. WTF?  Even as one myself that was uncomfortable and annoying for me. It's no different than a person of faith who tries to shove their beliefs in your face and belittles others for not sharing their belief system.

It's your right to not like people who get in your face with their beliefs, but did you have to be so in your face about it?
Title: Re: Marku and the FCA
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 30, 2019, 12:03:47 AM
Quote from: THRILLHO on May 29, 2019, 04:20:15 PM
It's your right to not like people who get in your face with their beliefs, but did you have to be so in your face about it?

We said nothing to them, we just "ghosted" them.
Title: Re: Markus and the FCA
Post by: tower912 on May 30, 2019, 06:15:49 AM
What about the green bean casserole?
Title: Re: Markus and the FCA
Post by: Lennys Tap on May 30, 2019, 10:40:56 AM
Quote from: tower912 on May 30, 2019, 06:15:49 AM
What about the green bean casserole?

Desperately wanted a little taste - all gone when I went through the line!
Title: Re: Marku and the FCA
Post by: Pakuni on May 30, 2019, 12:26:35 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 29, 2019, 12:51:08 PM
In your face anything is a bad look.

Even Poochie?
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Title: Re: Marku and the FCA
Post by: Lennys Tap on May 30, 2019, 03:06:41 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on May 30, 2019, 12:26:35 PM
Even Poochie?
(https://media.giphy.com/media/5Ow4JwrX5jWx2/giphy.gif)

lol - exceptions to every rule.
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