Poll
Question:
Would you trade Marquette's success in the immediate future for a Final Four run?
Option 1: Yes
votes: 47
Option 2: No
votes: 15
Option 3: Shut up, Dummy.
votes: 22
Follow me here.
Marquette is going into next year with sky high expectations. Mike Krzyzewski will be 73 years old at the end of next season. He can't possibly coach forever. If Wojo has another successful year, he will be crowned the heir apparent in Durham.
Marquette WILL lose:
Markus Howard
Sam Hauser
Sacar Anim
Ed Morrow
Marquette may ALSO lose:
Joe Hauser
Having said that, the cupboard isn't bare, but its certainly not as stocked as it has been for the last couple of years. Sure, we have recruits coming in, and we have a good base. The question up for debate here is will you be happy to trade success next year (a Final Four run)... and then lose those players, and Wojo.
If Marquette is successful next year, and Coach K is talking 'last run' before retirement...
Do you trade success next year for a darker future (likely)?
Our current underclassman have more upside then our our current upperclassman. I'll take both.
Sign me up. I will take my chances on a post Wojo era.
Quote from: Goose on April 09, 2019, 01:22:38 PM
Sign me up. I will take my chances on a post Wojo era.
This. The OP clearly implies that (Wojo's) replacement is - in the long term - negative... it could be positive.
"Another" successful year? Even if MU makes the final four next year he's not the "heir apparent" in Durham.
Quote from: cheese ball chaser on April 09, 2019, 01:28:50 PM
"Another" successful year? Even if MU makes the final four next year he's not the "heir apparent" in Durham.
Yeah, I'm not so sure Wojo is just one postseason run away from being K's successor.
Frankly, I think two or three S16/E8 type runs would get him closer to Durham than one F4.
All I care about is seeing Marquette win 1 National Championship in my life. I don't care who the coach is, or when Marquette wins it.
Wojo would very much be one of the favorites, if not THE favorite, for the Duke job if he has Marquette in the Final Four and ranked in the top 10 most of next year. Took a bare cupboard and built it up, sat next to K for almost 20 years, played at Duke before that.
Lazer
I am with you. I have said many times, I do not care who the coach is or style of ball they play, as long I see another NC.
With two wins next March, Wojo will be gone. He won't stick around.
topper
Is he gone with zero wins next March?
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 09, 2019, 01:59:27 PM
With two wins next March, Wojo will be gone. He won't stick around.
But...Duke??
Quote from: Goose on April 09, 2019, 01:56:43 PM
Lazer
I am with you. I have said many times, I do not care who the coach is or style of ball they play, as long I see another NC.
Goose
I have a deal with the Good Lord.
I don't die before another National Championship.
No ifs, ands or buts.....
It will happen!
dgies
I hope He delivers on that deal.
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on April 09, 2019, 01:37:26 PM
All I care about is seeing Marquette win 1 National Championship in my life. I don't care who the coach is, or when Marquette wins it.
This. For a national championship, no worries. For a Final Four? That's just not enough.
I think Joey has at least 2 years left.
Quote from: Goose on April 09, 2019, 02:02:37 PM
topper
Is he gone with zero wins next March?
Should he? 100% yes. Will he? 30% yes.
Quote from: Goose on April 09, 2019, 02:07:08 PM
dgies
I hope He delivers on that deal.
Goose:
Of course He will.
He's God.
In His infinite wisdom, He can do anything short of making a Mike Dukiet coached team national champs.
It will happ n again!
How far into the future?
The younger people are saying "just one MU championship in my life and I'll be happy." The older people are saying "just one more MU championship in my life and I'll be happy."
The older people are proving the fallacy of the younger people's thinking, and ultimately of their own.
Once you get the taste of a championship, your thirst may be quenched for a bit...but eventually you will want more.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on April 09, 2019, 04:01:31 PM
The younger people are saying "just one MU championship in my life and I'll be happy." The older people are saying "just one more MU championship in my life and I'll be happy."
The older people are proving the fallacy of the younger people's thinking, and ultimately of their own.
Once you get the taste of a championship, your thirst may be quenched for a bit...but eventually you will want more.
I can only speak for myself, but when I said I'd be happy with one I meant it.
I am fully satisfied with seeing the Packers win 2 Super Bowls. If they never win another one in my lifetime, I don't care.
Brewers, Bucks, and Marquette...one title each is my goal. Anymore is just gravy.
A couple thoughts... Wojo has never had a "successful year" so a Sweet 16 next season would be his first.
Wojo , even with a deep tourney run, is hardly K's successor.
Anyone who doesn't think Wojo has been sniffing fresh panties this off season is naive.
I think Wojo will leave. The only question is on whose terms.
Quote from: Goose on April 09, 2019, 02:02:37 PM
topper
Is he gone with zero wins next March?
Trick question. It's both!
Quote from: wadesworld on April 09, 2019, 01:47:47 PM
Wojo would very much be one of the favorites, if not THE favorite, for the Duke job if he has Marquette in the Final Four and ranked in the top 10 most of next year. Took a bare cupboard and built it up, sat next to K for almost 20 years, played at Duke before that.
He would absolutely be the favorite. Plus his value would have never been higher.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on April 09, 2019, 04:01:31 PM
The younger people are saying "just one MU championship in my life and I'll be happy." The older people are saying "just one more MU championship in my life and I'll be happy."
The older people are proving the fallacy of the younger people's thinking, and ultimately of their own.
Once you get the taste of a championship, your thirst may be quenched for a bit...but eventually you will want more.
Just one more in my lifetime...that's all i want...and i want all the Badger fans to be seriously PO'd forever because of it..I could die the next day and be completely content.
Quote from: cheese ball chaser on April 09, 2019, 01:28:50 PM
"Another" successful year? Even if MU makes the final four next year he's not the "heir apparent" in Durham.
Plus Tax
Quote from: GooooMarquette on April 09, 2019, 04:01:31 PM
The younger people are saying "just one MU championship in my life and I'll be happy." The older people are saying "just one more MU championship in my life and I'll be happy."
The older people are proving the fallacy of the younger people's thinking, and ultimately of their own.
Once you get the taste of a championship, your thirst may be quenched for a bit...but eventually you will want more.
Fine. I will trade 15 years of mediocre in the future for like 3 championships in 5 years in the present.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on April 09, 2019, 05:27:02 PM
Fine. I will trade 15 years of mediocre in the future for like 3 championships in 5 years in the present.
OK,
that one I'll buy.
Quote from: onepostjohnson on April 09, 2019, 02:59:35 PM
I think Joey has at least 2 years left.
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One year left, if that happens he will have to improve, basically everything. If he did, MU makes the Final 4. I am still not sure he even becomes a pro, we will see. Hope he does.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 09, 2019, 01:59:27 PM
With two wins next March, Wojo will be gone. He won't stick around.
Buzz won 8 games in the big boy tourney before he left. Would Wojo really desert us after a measly 2?
Quote from: dgies9156 on April 09, 2019, 02:04:39 PM
Goose
I have a deal with the Good Lord.
I don't die before another National Championship.
No ifs, ands or buts.....
It will happen!
good thing you're only 12 years old now eh?
Hoping for a great season next year (Elite 8 or more) or just a horrific season. Either way, I'd be willing to bet Wojo is gone
First of all, if Wojo left after a Final Four run next year (come on now...) the cupboard would not be nearly as bare as when Buzz left. That's not to pin all the blame on Buzz - I believe the conference realignment played a huge role in which players wanted to stay at MU/stay committed to MU.
But to answer your question - yes I would absolutely take that. For some teams (Marquette is unfortunately entering this echelon thanks to reasons we could debate until we are blue), a Final Four is once in a lifetime. But your hypothetical is paradoxical to say the least. It just doesn't seem possible that the team in its current condition, with all of its existing and work-in-process resources, could go from a Final Four directly to NIT/CIT for multiple years.
Quote from: Bad_Reporter on April 09, 2019, 10:57:45 PM
Hoping for a great season next year (Elite 8 or more) or just a horrific season. Either way, I'd be willing to bet Wojo is gone
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Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 09, 2019, 10:45:30 PM
Buzz won 8 games in the big boy tourney before he left. Would Wojo really desert us after a measly 2?
The differentiating factor is that Buzz took 3 years to get two March wins. (Actually 3.) (Yes, yes, bare cupboard, blah blah blah. Wojo's next job interviewer isn't going to be fond of all the excuses.)
Wojo is on year 5 with zero. If year 6 he collects two ..with the next season minus two NBA players on his roster and a healthier Big East? Time to jump.
His stock would be the highest it's ever been, and he'll need to reset his clock. He can't go 7-8 years at Marquette without showing consistent success or he'll be doomed to the Horizon League for his inevitable job #2.
He can't risk being at an underperforming Marquette for so many years.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 10, 2019, 07:06:50 AM
The differentiating factor is that Buzz took 3 years to get two March wins. (Actually 3.) (Yes, yes, bare cupboard, blah blah blah. Wojo's next job interviewer isn't going to be fond of all the excuses.)
Wojo is on year 5 with zero. If year 6 he collects two ..with the next season minus two NBA players on his roster and a healthier Big East? Time to jump.
His stock would be the highest it's ever been, and he'll need to reset his clock. He can't go 7-8 years at Marquette without showing consistent success or he'll be doomed to the Horizon League for his inevitable job #2.
He can't risk being at an underperforming Marquette for so many years.
If Joey were to stay I think having him and Koby plus senior John Cain and RSJr Elliott and junior bailey is still a decent core returning. Lots of roll players and have Joey and Koby run the offense. That's not even including Symir and any 2020 class members. Just seems like he'll have a steady pipeline going of experience and his players then.
Topper
I am with you on that. The best lateral or upward job security in coaching is not staying at one place too long. At new job there is always a honeymoon period. While I do not think Wojo leaves next season, it would not be a bad career choice. Get a nice raise and no pressure on winning for five years, if he lands new gig with similar fan base as MU.
i think he's gone no matter and NOT to duke. heck, if all it took was a win or two in the dance, why doesn't duke just take him now and get it over with.
now, in order to get/keep recruits, we need them to buy-in on MU and get a "kick-arse" coach. no tickling around the edges. i still say ben mccollum from northwest missouri state-he's got the makings of being a stud.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 10, 2019, 07:06:50 AM
The differentiating factor is that Buzz took 3 years to get two March wins. (Actually 3.) (Yes, yes, bare cupboard, blah blah blah. Wojo's next job interviewer isn't going to be fond of all the excuses.)
Wojo is on year 5 with zero. If year 6 he collects two ..with the next season minus two NBA players on his roster and a healthier Big East? Time to jump.
His stock would be the highest it's ever been, and he'll need to reset his clock. He can't go 7-8 years at Marquette without showing consistent success or he'll be doomed to the Horizon League for his inevitable job #2.
He can't risk being at an underperforming Marquette for so many years.
Teal?
Whether or not he deserves it, gets offered it, or even gets a courtesy interview, the one job that is always in the back of his mind is Duke. I'd be willing to bet that when K retires, Duke won't be interested in someone who has the makings of a career journeyman. If Wojo truly has his heart set on that job, whether right after K, or years down the line, his best bet is to stay at one job and prove that he can build a sustainable program. If my speculation is off, and all Wojo wants to be is the next Kruger or Buzz, then I could see him jumping after next year, but if he is keeping an eye on the Duke situation I think he'll truly "be here as long as you'll have me".
Topper-
I have no idea what Wojo will do next year. But I think he's more likely to stay and build off of success. Being a job hopper only works for so long. Eventually it works against you.
I didn't know there was a "non-job hopper" coach classification. (slightly teal)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_NCAA_Division_I_men%27s_basketball_coaches
Average tenure = 5.1 years .. median = 3 years.
Filtering for major conferences.. average is 7.1 years, median = 5 years.
.. Of the 75 major programs, only 17 of them have coaches who have stayed 10+ years.
There are 330+ stepping stone programs. Coaches move around. It's unique when they do not.
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on April 10, 2019, 08:19:40 AM
Topper-
I have no idea what Wojo will do next year. But I think he's more likely to stay and build off of success. Being a job hopper only works for so long. Eventually it works against you.
And you base this assertion on what? Buzz is a hopper. He is extremely successful, and I don't think anyone is going to get tired of it. As long as there is a team that wants a good coach, he can jump around all he wants. At this point, Buzz has been hopping for 13 years now, and he has made PLENTY of money doing it. Assuming he lasts 5 years at TAMU, he will be at it for 18 years. Long time to coach D1 basketball.
Topper-
I understand most coaches either fail and get fired, or succeed and move onto higher paying jobs.
I'm talking more about specific cases. How many highly successful, high major coaches change jobs every 5 years?
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on April 10, 2019, 09:16:03 AM
Topper-
I understand most coaches either fail and get fired, or succeed and move onto higher paying jobs.
I'm talking more about specific cases. How many highly successful, high major coaches change jobs every 5 years?
Larry Brown is all I got.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 10, 2019, 08:57:21 AM
I didn't know there was a "non-job hopper" coach classification. (slightly teal)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_NCAA_Division_I_men%27s_basketball_coaches
Average tenure = 5.1 years .. median = 3 years.
Filtering for major conferences.. average is 7.1 years, median = 5 years.
.. Of the 75 major programs, only 17 of them have coaches who have stayed 10+ years.
There are 330+ stepping stone programs. Coaches move around. It's unique when they do not.
K coaching tree at high majors. Average tenure; 7 years (not including Gaudet's one year a Duke when K was hurt). Number of coaches that have worked at more than one high major; 2 (of 14). Number of coaches that have gone from high major directly to high major without taking time off for a recruiting scandal; 1.
Every former Coach K assistant has at one time or another thought about taking over the Duke job, and they know that in order to do that they really only get one chance at a high major (Capel took time off going back to Duke and has to try to resurrect the dumpster fire at Pitt, and Amaker had one tourney appearance in a decade and is now at a mid major).
Wojo knows that if he can't make it and sustain it at MU, his chances at the Duke job are extremely low. Now if the job opens up, and he doesn't get it, he might re-asses his future and decide MU isn't the best place for him, but as long as the Duke job remains the pipe dream, Wojo is not going to leave unless he is pushed out.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on April 10, 2019, 09:06:59 AM
And you base this assertion on what? Buzz is a hopper. He is extremely successful, and I don't think anyone is going to get tired of it. As long as there is a team that wants a good coach, he can jump around all he wants. At this point, Buzz has been hopping for 13 years now, and he has made PLENTY of money doing it. Assuming he lasts 5 years at TAMU, he will be at it for 18 years. Long time to coach D1 basketball.
Buzz is an exception. Who knows, maybe he'll be at TAMU more than a decade.
Many more examples of guys that stay long-term and cultivate success. Coach K, Izzo, Wright, Few, Bennett, etc.
Guys like Tubby Smith and Cuonzo Martin are much more typical examples of journeymen.
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on April 10, 2019, 09:16:03 AM
Topper-
I understand most coaches either fail and get fired, or succeed and move onto higher paying jobs.
I'm talking more about specific cases. How many highly successful, high major coaches change jobs every 5 years?
Uhh .. not many. I'm not sure where you are going, though. Wojo is not highly successful nor at a high major program.
Man ya'll do love Arbys. Either we lose or we win and Wojo will run to the first job that raises its skirt at him.
Im gonna on record as predicting Wojo will be here in year 7. I'm also going to predict that when he leaves it will either be because he was fired or because he's leaving for a top 15 type job in the country.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 10, 2019, 09:37:18 AM
Uhh .. not many. I'm not sure where you are going, though. Wojo is not highly successful nor at a high major program.
C'mon topper. I get why you don't think Wojo has been successful but Marquette isn't a high major program? Go eat some Arby's
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 10, 2019, 09:37:18 AM
Uhh .. not many. I'm not sure where you are going, though. Wojo is not highly successful nor at a high major program.
You stated your opinion: Wojo will leave if he wins 2 tournament games next year.
I disagree. I think Wojo would be more likely to stay and build off of that success.
Now let's hope Wojo wins two tourney games so we can test our theories. 8-)
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 10, 2019, 09:43:23 AM
C'mon topper. I get why you don't think Wojo has been successful but Marquette isn't a high major program? Go eat some Arby's
Marquette is a major program, but not a high major.
I suppose everyone can kibitz on what's a high major, but I'd define them as the Kentuckys, UNCs, and Kansases of the world.
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on April 10, 2019, 09:56:40 AM
You stated your opinion: Wojo will leave if he wins 2 tournament games next year.
I disagree. I think Wojo would be more likely to stay and build off of that success.
Indeed, the "Coach K" factor is hard to predict. That being said, year 7 is unlikely to be as successful as year 6 .. meaning Wojo (if he stayed) would be pinning a lot on year 8. Decent success in Year 8 + Coach K hanging around 2 more years. That's a tight needle to thread.
At the moment, April 10, 2019, this is all moot. Duke is not hiring a guy with zero NCAA wins. As you said .. let Wojo get to the 2nd weekend, so we can test these theories out. 8-)
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 10, 2019, 09:58:56 AM
Marquette is a major program, but not a high major.
I suppose everyone can kibitz on what's a high major, but I'd define them as the Kentuckys, UNCs, and Kansases of the world.
Those are blue blood programs. Everyone in the ACC, Big 10, Big East, Big 12, & SEC are high-majors. I supposed I should probably include the Pac-12 because of the money they have and the AAC is pretty darn close, but those first five I think are no doubters.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 10, 2019, 10:05:53 AM
Indeed, the "Coach K" factor is hard to predict. That being said, year 7 is unlikely to be as successful as year 6 .. meaning Wojo (if he stayed) would be pinning a lot on year 8. Decent success in Year 8 + Coach K hanging around 2 more years. That's a tight needle to thread.
At the moment, April 10, 2019, this is all moot. Duke is not hiring a guy with zero NCAA wins. As you said .. let Wojo get to the 2nd weekend, so we can test these theories out. 8-)
Exactly. Wojo's career does not exist in a vacuum. There are two potential NBA players on next years team... note, I said potential. After next year, how many will there be on the team?
Oh come on. Duke is not going to make a determination on who to hire as the coach to come in and follow Coach K based on the season that coach just had in K's final season at Duke. They're looking at the total body of a guy's work.
Side note, I could see any of Markus, Sam, Joey, and Brendan playing in the NBA down the road.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 10, 2019, 10:58:21 AM
Oh come on. Duke is not going to make a determination on who to hire as the coach to come in and follow Coach K based on the season that coach just had in K's final season at Duke. They're looking at the total body of a guy's work.
Side note, I could see any of Markus, Sam, Joey, and Brendan playing in the NBA down the road.
Yep, despite trailing 1-0 in the tourney wins column, Wojo would get the job before Collins. Neither would get it based on their current body of work, but people that think that Duke is just going to look at how many tourney wins a coach has are crazy.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 10, 2019, 09:58:56 AM
Marquette is a major program, but not a high major.
I suppose everyone can kibitz on what's a high major, but I'd define them as the Kentuckys, UNCs, and Kansases of the world.
You seem to be using "high major" to describe the level most people would call "blue blood."
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 10, 2019, 07:06:50 AM
The differentiating factor is that Buzz took 3 years to get two March wins. (Actually 3.) (Yes, yes, bare cupboard, blah blah blah. Wojo's next job interviewer isn't going to be fond of all the excuses.)
Wojo is on year 5 with zero. If year 6 he collects two ..with the next season minus two NBA players on his roster and a healthier Big East? Time to jump.
His stock would be the highest it's ever been, and he'll need to reset his clock. He can't go 7-8 years at Marquette without showing consistent success or he'll be doomed to the Horizon League for his inevitable job #2.
He can't risk being at an underperforming Marquette for so many years.
So its Stepping Stone or Bust.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on April 10, 2019, 11:09:45 AM
You seem to be using "high major" to describe the level most people would call "blue blood."
Ok, ok, I stand corrected with the terminology.
I think it's really hard to say that Wojo will be 100% gone if he wins two games in March Madness next year without having any idea of which jobs will be available.
In the ACC, the only jobs that I could see being available that aren't from a retirement/NBA hiring are:
Wake Forest - Manning (1 NCAA appearance in 5 years)
Boston College - Christian (0 NCCA appearances in 5 years)
Miami - Larrañaga (5 NCAA appearances, two Sweet Sixteens since 2011, is 70 years old and is tied to the FBI scandal)
Georgia Tech - Pastner (0 NCAA appearances in 3 years)
Pittsburgh - Capel (0 NCAA appearances in 2 years and they've been really bad)
In the Big 12:
Texas - Smart (we all know how things have gone there)
OSU - Boynton (will be only three years in, but is tied to the FBI scandal and they are funded by oil barons and can spend whatever they want if they feel it isn't working)
In the Big 10:
Penn State - Chambers (been there forever, no success - but that school does not give a f*** about basketball)
Rutgers - Pikiell - (will be four years in and no NCAA appearances)
Maryland - Turgeon (NCAA appearance 5 out of last 6 years, 1 Sweet Sixteen but rumors about boosters wanting a change)
Illinois - Underwood (will be only three years in)
Indiana - Miller (will be only three years in)
In the SEC:
Unless there is a retirement or the NBA hires someone away, I don't think a single school in the SEC makes a coaching change next year.
In the PAC-12:
Washington, Oregon, UCLA, Cal, and ASU won't be making coaching changes next year and I guess any other school here could make a change.
USC and Arizona both have outstanding recruiting classes coming in but both Miller and Enfield have ties to the FBI investigation. Miller probably gets another year, Enfield who knows.
Conclusion:
I think it's unlikely but possible Illinois, Indiana, or Maryland fire coaches next year. Miami maybe fires/forces Larrañaga into retirement.
Texas is clearly a good job and opportunity if Smart is fired. OSU has oil money and can do whatever they want.
USC is an interesting option for Wojo, especially with the recruiting class coming in, but that school is huge dumpster fire right now. I guess if USC wanted to make a statement about running a clean program after all the scandals, Wojo would also be a good PR move.
Maryland, since that is where Wojo is from, jumps up if they fire Turgeon, but Wojo's record - even if he gets to the Sweet 16 in 19-20 - will be less than that of Turgeons.
If Wojo gets us to the Sweet Sixteen he will get a big contract extension and pay raise. So I have a hard time seeing him going to a middle of the road/bottom ACC program for comparable money. He isn't going to another Big East school. Penn State and Rutgers suck. SEC would take some sort of retirement/domino effect to open a job for Wojo if he has success.
So Texas and USC would be my main worries of the two jobs that seem very likely to have openings -- but I doubt Wojo is the #1 choice for either with a Sweet 16 run.
When Marquette wins a National Championship, scoop will be disappointed that the trendline can't go higher.
(Unless you believe the Marquette Roster will be brought for Space Jam 3 to win against the Monstars for universal dominance)
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on April 09, 2019, 01:11:06 PM
Follow me here.
Marquette is going into next year with sky high expectations. Mike Krzyzewski will be 73 years old at the end of next season. He can't possibly coach forever. If Wojo has another successful year, he will be crowned the heir apparent in Durham.
Do you trade success next year for a darker future (likely)?
First, what makes you think it's Wojo at Duke? Johnny Dawkins has been pretty successful, moreso than Wojo, and K saw first hand how well Dawkins can coach.
Second, why would the future be "darker?"
I would absolutely trade it for a Final Four run and a legit shot at a Natty. Every time I see these threads I think 'damn, it has come to this where 1 or 2 wins in the tourney is the bar?' Hey, I didn't mind Buzz because at least we were relevant in the tourney. I didn't mind Crean either with the run to the Final Four.
Heck, I would even let the program get dirty for a legit run! I would be more then happy for a program with dirt in exchange for a Natty.
As far as Wojo to Duke, I would want someone like Tony Bennett at Duke before Wojo. I think in the now I would be happy with a Sweet 16. Heck, I would be happy with one win and not having a second game as a blow out and embarrassment.
Is Jon Scheyer aware that Wojo is the predetermined heir apparent?
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 10, 2019, 02:23:21 PM
First, what makes you think it's Wojo at Duke? Johnny Dawkins has been pretty successful, moreso than Wojo, and K saw first hand how well Dawkins can coach.
Second, why would the future be "darker?"
Johnny Dawkins has never won the PAC-12 or the AAC.
He has been to the NCAA tourney twice in a decade.
Are you sure this is an argument you want to make?