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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Marcus92 on April 08, 2019, 10:36:06 AM

Title: How much do recruiting rankings matter?
Post by: Marcus92 on April 08, 2019, 10:36:06 AM
FiveThirtyEight looks at how Virginia and Texas Tech built their current rosters. Neither team depends heavily on highly-rated recruits -- but the Red Raiders have just one Top 100 player according to the RSCI rankings.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/virginia-and-texas-tech-didnt-need-flashy-recruits-to-get-to-the-title-game/ (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/virginia-and-texas-tech-didnt-need-flashy-recruits-to-get-to-the-title-game/)
Title: Re: How much do recruiting rankings matter?
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 08, 2019, 10:42:24 AM
Recruiting rankings are important on a macro-level.  They are insignificant on a micro-level.
Title: Re: How much do recruiting rankings matter?
Post by: Loose Cannon on April 08, 2019, 10:55:08 AM


Most important is doing your recruiting Homework.  Ranking are only a Menu. I'm very interested in seeing how Dexter contributes based on his rankings in his career at MU.
Title: Re: How much do recruiting rankings matter?
Post by: brewcity77 on April 08, 2019, 10:58:42 AM
I get it, but these teams are also massive outliers. Most years, the teams playing this weekend have numerous top-100 recruits. Not always, but more often than not.
Title: Re: How much do recruiting rankings matter?
Post by: Johnny B on April 08, 2019, 11:02:49 AM
Consistently grab top 100 guys typically equals consistent success. Consistantly grab mid level 3 stars and you can expect to not be that great often. Sure there are outliers but yeah.
Title: Re: How much do recruiting rankings matter?
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 08, 2019, 02:31:58 PM
Rankin's no matta. Watt is important iz hoo da hell else iz recruitin' da playa. If your in wit Dook, UK, and da like, u bee hittin' da write kidz. Beetin' out mid-majors and lower results in suckin' ass, aina?
Title: Re: How much do recruiting rankings matter?
Post by: wadesworld on April 08, 2019, 02:52:12 PM
Rankin's no matta. Watt is important iz hoo da hell else iz recruitin' da playa. If your in wit Dook, UK, and da like, u bee hittin' da write kidz. Beetin' out mid-majors and lower results in suckin' ass, aina?

Always sucks to land a Jarrett Culver.

But why can't we get their coach, who was basically less of a coach than Culver was as a prospect?
Title: Re: How much do recruiting rankings matter?
Post by: KampusFoods on April 08, 2019, 02:53:12 PM
Rankin's no matta. Watt is important iz hoo da hell else iz recruitin' da playa. If your in wit Dook, UK, and da like, u bee hittin' da write kidz. Beetin' out mid-majors and lower results in suckin' ass, aina?

We may never sign another recruit if we just offer players that Duke & UK are also offering.
Title: Re: How much do recruiting rankings matter?
Post by: MU82 on April 08, 2019, 03:46:32 PM
Rankin's no matta. Watt is important iz hoo da hell else iz recruitin' da playa. If your in wit Dook, UK, and da like, u bee hittin' da write kidz. Beetin' out mid-majors and lower results in suckin' ass, aina?

Yep, if Wojo gets you, it means you suck. Unless you are a Hauser. And the Hausers don't like him. And if Wojo does accidentally land a decent recruit, he ruins them by "de-motivating" them. Neither individual players nor the overall team ever improve under Wojo, America's worst coach.
Title: Re: How much do recruiting rankings matter?
Post by: D'Lo Brown on April 08, 2019, 04:14:01 PM
Wojo has proven to be an excellent recruiter. The jury is still out on his ability to put those pieces together into a team. Each year thus far, we have had at least one if not several truly glaring deficiencies (even to a casual observer).

I think this coming season will tell a lot. I've got faith in Wojo. Getting these top players to sign is the hard part, IMO.
Title: Re: How much do recruiting rankings matter?
Post by: Goose on April 08, 2019, 04:24:16 PM
IMO, recruiting rankings matter if very high on the list. If you are a top four recruiting class, there should be success with that class. Predicting how at 12 ranked class is going to perform is hard to judge. Would add, if the coach has history of winning with 12 ranked classes, it carries a more weight.
Title: Re: How much do recruiting rankings matter?
Post by: Herman Cain on April 08, 2019, 04:27:02 PM
OG Anunoby is one of my favorite examples in recent years. He was ranked a consensus 3 star. 294th in class.  Ended up being drafted by the Toronto Raptors in the first round after two seasons with Indiana.
https://247sports.com/Player/OG-Anunoby-34775/high-school-56746/

I am sure there are many more examples like this.
Title: Re: How much do recruiting rankings matter?
Post by: Johnny B on April 08, 2019, 04:52:31 PM
Rankin's no matta. Watt is important iz hoo da hell else iz recruitin' da playa. If your in wit Dook, UK, and da like, u bee hittin' da write kidz. Beetin' out mid-majors and lower results in suckin' ass, aina?
What is the backstory on why you speak like this?
Title: Re: How much do recruiting rankings matter?
Post by: MU82 on April 08, 2019, 05:59:46 PM
What is the backstory on why you speak like this?

Minored in gibberish at MU. Likes to use it in case he travels where it's spoken.
Title: Re: How much do recruiting rankings matter?
Post by: Jon on April 08, 2019, 06:12:30 PM
Rankings are an important barometer of success. While not infallible, the coaches racking up the better ranked classes are the same ones who win. Consistently.
Title: Re: How much do recruiting rankings matter?
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on April 08, 2019, 06:47:09 PM
Minored in gibberish at MU. Likes to use it in case he travels where it's spoken.

He has the skill set to turn it off and on at will, and is more than capable of writing in a normal, flowing, descriptive manner. At times his gibberish is funny. Other times..um no. Sometimes his shtick gets right to the point..other times, meh.

Did anyone ever see that 60Minutes feature years ago where certain Dental patients somehow start speaking in a strange accent from a locale they’ve never even visited, let alone lived at? One lady from middle America all of a sudden starting speaking in a heavy English accent.

I wonder if it affects message board literary styles.  If it does....I wonder if Doc was a test patient once at the MU Dental School and a fellow student and future colleague performed minor oral surgery without sterilizing the instruments?
Title: Re: How much do recruiting rankings matter?
Post by: pbiflyer on April 08, 2019, 08:06:27 PM
What is the backstory on why you speak like this?

Scoop doesn't discriminate against the mentally challenged? 
Title: Re: How much do recruiting rankings matter?
Post by: Jon on April 09, 2019, 12:49:35 AM
He has the skill set to turn it off and on at will, and is more than capable of writing in a normal, flowing, descriptive manner. At times his gibberish is funny. Other times..um no. Sometimes his shtick gets right to the point..other times, meh.

Did anyone ever see that 60Minutes feature years ago where certain Dental patients somehow start speaking in a strange accent from a locale they’ve never even visited, let alone lived at? One lady from middle America all of a sudden starting speaking in a heavy English accent.

I wonder if it affects message board literary styles.  If it does....I wonder if Doc was a test patient once at the MU Dental School and a fellow student and future colleague performed minor oral surgery without sterilizing the instruments?


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Title: Re: How much do recruiting rankings matter?
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on April 09, 2019, 01:14:13 AM

(https://media.giphy.com/media/3osxYApH4lbiBijWhi/giphy.gif)

At 12:33am, on another thread, I called out a bad comparison the chemtrail pilot made between Katin Reinhardt and Markus Howard.

At 12:36am, he posted a GIF of a fighter jet crashing and burning with the pilot thankfully ejecting. While I thought just maybe “crash” was admitting it was a bad analogy.... I now see that it was directed at me.

I thank you for your service to our great country, sir.
Title: Re: How much do recruiting rankings matter?
Post by: Jon on April 09, 2019, 05:30:25 AM
At 12:33am, on another thread, I called out a bad comparison the chemtrail pilot made between Katin Reinhardt and Markus Howard.

At 12:36am, he posted a GIF of a fighter jet crashing and burning with the pilot thankfully ejecting. While I thought just maybe “crash” was admitting it was a bad analogy.... I now see that it was directed at me.

I thank you for your service to our great country, sir.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/3KWDnCHTYVmPyyGl99/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: How much do recruiting rankings matter?
Post by: bilsu on April 09, 2019, 10:47:37 AM
Recruiting rankings are highly based on the players offensive ability. Virginia & Texas Tech built their teams on defense. Wojo is an offensive coach and I do not see him ever having an elite defensive team. That is surprising considering he was a defensive player.
Title: Re: How much do recruiting rankings matter?
Post by: Jay Bee on April 09, 2019, 02:35:47 PM
Recruiting rankings are highly based on the players offensive ability. Virginia & Texas Tech built their teams on defense. Wojo is an offensive coach and I do not see him ever having an elite defensive team. That is surprising considering he was a defensive player.

Virginia’s offense is elite tbh