We were a legit top 10 team and leading at Nova when Howard fell on his wrist. Nova then scored the last 12 of 13 points of the game to win and we went 1 - 6 the rest of the way, after starting 23-4.
Other than Howard hurting his wrist, what else happened at that moment that collapsed the season?
Or, was it Howard getting hurt? See how helpless Duke looked when Zion was out, they were blown out by UNC and needed a lucky roll to beat a terrible Wake Forest at home. Did Howard's injury have a similar effect on us?
Quote from: Rick Majerus' Towel on March 21, 2019, 09:16:07 PM
We were a legit top 10 team and leading at Nova when Howard fell on his wrist. Nova then scored the last 12 of 13 points of the game to win and we went 1 - 6 the rest of the way, after starting 23-4.
Other than Howard hurting his wrist, what else happened at that moment that collapsed the season?
Or, was it Howard getting hurt? See how helpless Duke looked when Zion was out, they were blown out by UNC and needed a lucky roll to beat a terrible Wake Forest at home. Did Howard's injury have a simar effect on us?
Amazing take....your insights are spot on. Do you "Dab" after every post or do you celebrate with a "Fortnite" dance?
Quote from: Ron Swanson on March 21, 2019, 09:20:56 PM
Amazing take....your insights are spot on. Do you "Dab" after every post or do you celebrate with a "Fortnite" dance?
Shouldn't you be watching SportsCenter?
Quote from: Rick Majerus' Towel on March 21, 2019, 09:16:07 PM
We were a legit top 10 team and leading at Nova when Howard fell on his wrist. Nova then scored the last 12 of 13 points of the game to win and we went 1 - 6 the rest of the way, after starting 23-4.
Didn't Howard hurt his wrist against Creighton the Sunday after?
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 21, 2019, 09:23:06 PM
Didn't Howard hurt his wrist against Creighton the Sunday after?
Both
Quote from: Rick Majerus' Towel on March 21, 2019, 09:22:02 PM
Shouldn't you be watching SportsCenter?
No I am watching the tournament, live tweeting my every thought and posting pictures of myself drinking a coke zero on instagram
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 21, 2019, 09:24:33 PM
Try again. It was Butler.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 21, 2019, 09:23:06 PM
Didn't Howard hurt his wrist against Creighton the Sunday after?
Are you guys paying attention?
Howard again downplayed his left wrist injury. The guard hurt the wrist at Villanova on Feb. 27 and has been playing with it taped. He aggravated it against Seton Hall in the Big East tournament semifinals.https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2019/03/20/ncaa-tournament-howard-morant-became-friends-chris-pauls-camp/3221071002/
The season turned when Creighton exposed our turnover machine tendencies when pressured on the perimeter with our lack of a true point guard in Milwaukee. Gameplanning against us got much easier.
Quote from: Da 'Lanche on March 21, 2019, 09:33:44 PM
The season turned when Creighton exposed our turnover machine tendencies when pressured on the perimeter with our lack of a true point guard in Milwaukee. Gameplanning against us got much easier.
Eliott and Kobe should go a long way to fixing this next year.
Quote from: Rick Majerus' Towel on March 21, 2019, 09:35:27 PM
Eliott and Kobe should go a long way to fixing this next year.
With all that is sort of holy...I hope so!
Quote from: Da 'Lanche on March 21, 2019, 09:33:44 PM
The season turned when Creighton exposed our turnover machine tendencies when pressured on the perimeter with our lack of a true point guard in Milwaukee. Gameplanning against us got much easier.
+1
Heise, the season turned at Butler when Howard pulled his groin at Butler on a late Baldwin foul. He lost his hop and ball penetration pop after that. His step back went away and he limited his drives. MU had no one to spell him.
The wrist compounded his effectivess no doubt.
We were never a "legit" top 10 team. Even when we were ranked in the top 10 we were like 30ish by all the metrics.
We were fortunate to be in a crappy conference and have some lucky wins. We were never a top 10 caliber team.
Quote from: GrimmReaper33 on March 21, 2019, 09:45:14 PM
We were never a "legit" top 10 team. Even when we were ranked in the top 10 we were like 30ish by all the metrics.
We were fortunate to be in a crappy conference and have some lucky wins at home. We were never a top 10 caliber team.
troll
Their issues appeared as much mental which led to the physical miscues. They played pretty well at Nova. Then they looked tight. Couldn't finish games. How many 14-0, 18-0 runs dis we see in this swoon? Is that a reflection of the coach feeling the pressure?
It's not how you start, it's how you finish. Listening to the Nova fans in Nov talking about Jay playing guys and establishing roles and rotations. I think we put the pedal to the metal from the jump. Our kids got tired and they faltered.
Quote from: muhoops1 on March 21, 2019, 09:51:15 PM
Their issues appeared as much mental which led to the physical miscues. They played pretty well at Nova. Then they looked tight. Couldn't finish games. How many 14-0, 18-0 runs dis we see in this swoon? Is that a reflection of the coach feeling the pressure?
It's not how you start, it's how you finish. Listening to the Nova fans in Nov talking about Jay playing guys and establishing roles and rotations. I think we put the pedal to the metal from the jump. Our kids got tired and they faltered.
No on the coach feeling the pressure. That is an ignorant statement.
Yes, they Wojo should have been slower to settle the rotation to save guys for later in the season. They looked tired. So we should have seen more Heldt, BB, JC, and Cain through mid-late January so starters were not dragging as much in March.
Wojo will not make that
I guess my point was if Wojo feels the pressure and tightens up does that transfer to the team? Do they play tighter, press more which ultimately leads to mistakes. Just seemed like when things started going south the team faded.
Quote from: Rick Majerus' Towel on March 21, 2019, 09:51:11 PM
Totally wrong ... delete your account.
So... No response? Thanks.
Quote from: Rick Majerus' Towel on March 21, 2019, 09:35:27 PM
Eliott and Kobe should go a long way to fixing this next year.
Beware Backup QB syndrome. Chartouney was supposed to be the answer to PG. Greg showed nothing last year that indicated he'd be an acceptable PG even before the hand injury. Maybe Koby is the answer, but he is far from proven IMO.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, I have no problem with Markus being our PG, I don't think it hurt us at all this season. Not having a backup did but that's a separate point.
What I do think hurt us a lot was a lack of slashers. Markus and Sacar were the only two who could get to the rim. Markus got hurt and Sacar was too inconsistent. That is where Greg and Koby should help.
Quote from: TSmith34 on March 21, 2019, 10:26:26 PM
Beware Backup QB syndrome. Chartouney was supposed to be the answer to PG. Greg showed nothing last year that indicated he'd be an acceptable PG even before the hand injury. Maybe Koby is the answer, but he is far from proven IMO.
Agree.
Quote from: GrimmReaper33 on March 21, 2019, 09:49:34 PM
Where am I wrong?
"lucky wins at home"
We smoked KSU and UB. Not lucky. Good teams.
Quote from: T-Bone on March 21, 2019, 10:52:53 PM
Agree.
we had so few steals that we turned into easy transition buckets. Haven't run the numbers on this but that's how it felt to me all year. Not many deflections. Were we just too slow as a team?
RMT is trolling all of you. Plus his posts read "drunk".
Quote from: GrimmReaper33 on March 21, 2019, 10:19:00 PM
So... No response? Thanks.
Rick the towel guy is a flame thrower, ignore him. Lots of name calling thugs around here.
Quote from: vogue65 on March 22, 2019, 03:08:46 AM
Rick the towel guy is a flame thrower, ignore him. Lots of name calling thugs around here.
maybe he's just truly bitterly disappointed, in his mid 70s and despairing of seeing another MU final four team during his lifetime. Oh wait...
Season turned when we played Louisville. We were 3-2 with a blowout loss @IU and we played a good half with KU.
There was a shot (can't recall 2 pointer or 3 pointer) that was called incorrectly to the dismay of Louisville. We don't get that call there's no OT and we lose. We likely drop some of the big games we won in December if Louisville was a loss.
That was the first sign that this team was not what we thought they were. But they took the victory and strung together some impressive wins. It was apparent that this team believed in themselves and each other
We were throttled by St. Johns and won another controversial game @Creighton with that controversial (probably shouldn't have counted) miracle by Sam. We lose that game we probably drop a few more.
Injuries, physical and psychological stamina took it's toll. I wish the team, university and players were more forthright on injuries. They weren't and it's part of the reason everyone on this board is heated and disgusted.
BEast was much weaker than advertised. We should've been a 7 - 10 seed, maybe even lower. That was my hope when all the 2 or 3 seed talk was happening. 12/5 always a crap shoot.
To those who see/saw Markus going to the NBA: I hope that you realize how crazy that was. Sure that guy is probably 2nd or 3rd pick, but do you really see Markus as 27th best in NCAA if that guy is #2 or #3? Coz that's what he needs to get a guarantee in 1st Round.
You know who's gonna be in the NBA from this team? Bailey. He's got the size and look of an NBA player plus the lineage. Laugh all you want, he'll get a shot and probably make a career. Hausers? I'm not seeing it. Joey looks like he's nursing a hangover from the night before every game day.
Quote from: ATWizJr on March 22, 2019, 01:35:38 AM
we had so few steals that we turned into easy transition buckets. Haven't run the numbers on this but that's how it felt to me all year. Not many deflections. Were we just too slow as a team?
Yes, a slow team that looked slower the season progressed. Marquette looked like the un-athletic Ohio Valley Conference team against Murray State.
Quote from: ATWizJr on March 22, 2019, 03:45:33 AM
maybe he's just truly bitterly disappointed, in his mid 70s and despairing of seeing another MU final four team during his lifetime. Oh wait...
Or, he loves MU as passionately as everyone here and hates what this place becomes after a bad loss. Useless sacks with less than 100 posts that have been hiding all year so they can troll us true fans.