The only person to pick MU over Murray State isn't a person at all
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/ncaa-tournament-2019-bracket-picks-and-predictions-from-advanced-computer-model/
Not sure how the model does with other sports
But it's been very helpful with golf
I have not followed the bracketology but are the pundits all taking the upset for this one!???
As negative of a fan / sky is falling / irrational as I am. I am very confident with murray. Lock down one star and we have all the tools to blow by them with a decent day from the field. They play little sisters of the poor the majority of the season. We should be good pending a total offensive collapse.
FsU is another story i fear
Throw the computer models and predictions out. It's March baby. Survive and advance, lose and go home. 40 minutes of ball played on a court between two teams is all that matters. Win those 40 minutes 6 times and you cut some nets.
Quote from: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on March 19, 2019, 10:23:12 AM
FsU is another story i fear
I've found FSU to be an anomaly all year. They beat Purdue, althought they struggled early on, and got a pretty easy ACC schedule with their home and homes being Miami, Clemson, GT, and Wake. They lost to Villanova, Pitt and BC (ouch), and went 1-4 against the 3 teams ahead of them in the ACC.
It is a lot like the old Big East imbalanced schedule. We had a lot of teams make runs, but often had a lot flame out early. If we look good agains Murray St and just don't squeak by, i like our chances.
Quote from: MUMonster03 on March 19, 2019, 10:38:28 AM
I've found FSU to be an anomaly all year. They beat Purdue, althought they struggled early on, and got a pretty easy ACC schedule with their home and homes being Miami, Clemson, GT, and Wake. They lost to Villanova, Pitt and BC (ouch), and went 1-4 against the 3 teams ahead of them in the ACC.
It is a lot like the old Big East imbalanced schedule. We had a lot of teams make runs, but often had a lot flame out early. If we look good agains Murray St and just don't squeak by, i like our chances.
And Leonard Hamilton always bombs in March, so we got that going.
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 19, 2019, 10:51:17 AM
And Leonard Hamilton always bombs in March, so we got that going.
Except last year.
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 19, 2019, 10:51:17 AM
And Leonard Hamilton always bombs in March, so we got that going.
Quote from: MUeagle1090 on March 19, 2019, 10:53:12 AM
Except last year.
Yup, when he went to an Elite Eight. And returned almost everyone.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 19, 2019, 11:05:05 AM
Yup, when he went to an Elite Eight. And returned almost everyone.
Now he's due to flame out again
Absolutely do NOT discount Vermont pulling the upset here. They have experience, are playing closer to home than FSU and Anthony Lamb is a total stud..one of the best players the country doesn't know about.
Quote from: muguru on March 19, 2019, 11:28:53 AM
Absolutely do NOT discount Vermont pulling the upset here. They have experience, are playing closer to home than FSU and Anthony Lamb is a total stud..one of the best players the country doesn't know about.
I've been thinking the same thing. Everyone in that building will be cheering for Vermont. Could pull the upset
Quote from: wadesworld on March 19, 2019, 10:29:28 AM
Throw the computer models and predictions out. It's March baby. Survive and advance, lose and go home. 40 minutes of ball played on a court between two teams is all that matters. Win those 40 minutes 6 times and you cut some nets.
Interesting how the number crunchers spend all year with their models of what will happen and then reality shows up.
I totally ignore the prognosticators all year, game on.
Vegas loves people who show up with lots of money and an algorithm.
The predictor
https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-tournament/game-predictor/
Quote from: Cheeks on March 19, 2019, 12:48:26 PM
The predictor
https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-tournament/game-predictor/
Thank you, my mind just exploded. Do you have a model for the 737 MAX 8/9?
We had a lot of models that predicted victory in Vietnam also.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 19, 2019, 11:32:08 AM
I've been thinking the same thing. Everyone in that building will be cheering for Vermont. Could pull the upset
You damn skippy.
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/e5/29/61/e52961199942922944cf900c14a95465--admiral-ackbar-star-tours.jpg)
I also think Vermont has a chance against FSU. They are small, perimeter oriented, and shoot a lot of 3's. Get hot and the crowd will get behind them.
I kinda feel like this pod is rock, paper, scissors.
FSU= rock
Marquette= scissors
Vermont= paper
Murray St is just an X-factor.
Quote from: vogue65 on March 19, 2019, 12:54:59 PM
Thank you, my mind just exploded. Do you have a model for the 737 MAX 8/9?
We had a lot of models that predicted victory in Vietnam also.
Rules of engagement...McNamara blew that one. A total crapshoot because we crapped the bed.
Quote from: muguru on March 19, 2019, 11:28:53 AM
Absolutely do NOT discount Vermont pulling the upset here. They have experience, are playing closer to home than FSU and Anthony Lamb is a total stud..one of the best players the country doesn't know about.
Eye test test?
Quote from: LoudMouth on March 19, 2019, 09:55:20 AM
The only person to pick MU over Murray State isn't a person at all
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/ncaa-tournament-2019-bracket-picks-and-predictions-from-advanced-computer-model/
always trust the computer...the spread is -4.5...puts MU at about a 66% chance of winning.
I am having trouble finding it, but does anyone remember a few years ago CBS had a March Madness promo where an old-school computer spit out a piece of paper that had the word "Marquette" printed on it?
I cant believe how people are picking so overwhelmingly in favor of Murray St. Has there ever been a 12-5 match up in which the 12 was overwhelmingly seen as the sure fire winner. lol whatever I kind of like being the underdogs from most peoples stand point.
Belmont looked good tonight and Murray State is in their conference.
The surprising thing mentioned in the article is that we've been scoring a higher rate than usual in recent games, but it fails to mention who we've played. In our last 3 games, we played Georgetown and SJU, who both score and allow some of the higher totals in our league, and then against those jersey punks, we took 41 FTs, which definitely inflated the scoring.
I don't disagree with the outcome. I just feel like there's an obvious flaw to the logic saying we found our offensive groove lately.
Quote from: WarriorDad on March 19, 2019, 10:34:43 PM
Belmont looked good tonight and Murray State is in their conference.
Temple is from the AAC and that conference has looked pretty terrible, which is the flip side to that equation.
Quote from: Cheeks on March 19, 2019, 01:23:04 PM
Rules of engagement...McNamara blew that one. A total crapshoot because we crapped the bed.
We used mathematical models.
The computer does the calculations of a mathematical model developed by a human and programmed by a human based on actual historic data/facts. AI is a learning model currently written by humans.
Starting in 2017 some simple programs were written by computers and Microsoft and others are working on the concept. Humans are still the masterminds at this point. So blame the humans who wrote the model if the program gives poor results.
In the future you can blame the computer. In the future the original program written by humans will evolve as decided by the original human designed model. That is when the computers replace us and we all retire.
Quote from: Class71 on March 20, 2019, 04:26:28 AM
The computer does the calculations of a mathematical model developed by a human and programmed by a human based on actual historic data/facts. AI is a learning model currently written by humans.
Starting in 2017 some simple programs were written by computers and Microsoft and others are working on the concept. Humans are still the masterminds at this point. So blame the humans who wrote the model if the program gives poor results.
In the future you can blame the computer. In the future the original program written by humans will evolve as decided by the original human designed model. That is when the computers replace us and we all retire.
If you structure it as a neural rework then the more times the query is run the computer should learn and thus after a bunch of simulations become "the master".
Quote from: Johnny B on March 19, 2019, 03:44:59 PM
I cant believe how people are picking so overwhelmingly in favor of Murray St. Has there ever been a 12-5 match up in which the 12 was overwhelmingly seen as the sure fire winner. lol whatever I kind of like being the underdogs from most peoples stand point.
Minnesota vs. Middle Tennessee State from a few years ago comes to mind
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on March 19, 2019, 01:20:29 PM
I also think Vermont has a chance against FSU. They are small, perimeter oriented, and shoot a lot of 3's. Get hot and the crowd will get behind them.
I kinda feel like this pod is rock, paper, scissors.
FSU= rock
Marquette= scissors
Vermont= paper
Murray St is just an X-factor.
I assume that makes Murray State bomb, and as everyone knows, while bomb beats rock & paper, scissors cuts the wick. We got this.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 20, 2019, 06:43:02 AM
I assume that makes Murray State bomb, and as everyone knows, while bomb beats rock & paper, scissors cuts the wick. We got this.
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Quote from: warriorchick on March 19, 2019, 03:42:19 PM
I am having trouble finding it, but does anyone remember a few years ago CBS had a March Madness promo where an old-school computer spit out a piece of paper that had the word "Marquette" printed on it?
Here ya go chick:
https://youtu.be/znsbKpUrsXo
Quote from: fjm on March 20, 2019, 07:31:00 AM
Here ya go chick:
https://youtu.be/znsbKpUrsXo
Ha! RoboBilas! I forgot it had us beating Gonzaga! Who can make a gif of that for us?
Thanks, fjm!
Quote from: warriorchick on March 20, 2019, 08:06:01 AM
Ha! RoboBilas! I forgot it had us beating Gonzaga! Who can make a gif of that for us?
Thanks, fjm!
Let's hope we can make great use of this in 2019
Quote from: vogue65 on March 20, 2019, 03:32:04 AM
We used mathematical models.
And then ignored them in practice. ROE
Quote from: Cheeks on March 20, 2019, 08:49:41 AM
And then ignored them in practice. ROE
Oh the propaganda we are all subjected to.
Quote from: warriorchick on March 20, 2019, 08:06:01 AM
Ha! RoboBilas! I forgot it had us beating Gonzaga! Who can make a gif of that for us?
Thanks, fjm!
I think this'll work...
Edit: or this
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Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 20, 2019, 05:27:30 PM
I think this'll work...
Edit: or this
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Thanks!