That is all.
(edited to avoid confusion that I am talking about his talent level not his character)
Nah. Hell of a player. Raised his team up. Should have been ejected. Took advantage of the opportunity.
Quote from: tower912 on March 15, 2019, 11:44:02 PM
Nah. Hell of a player. Raised his team up. Should have been ejected. Took advantage of the opportunity.
Nah. Classless. Garbage street stuff on the court. Dumb baiting of Wojo off of it. Dude has no class.
Quote from: tower912 on March 15, 2019, 11:44:02 PM
Nah. Hell of a player. Raised his team up. Should have been ejected. Took advantage of the opportunity.
Nah, he's a pretty garbage person if what he did tonight is a reflection of his personality.
Not the night to play devils advocate Tower.
I'd take Powell in a second.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on March 15, 2019, 11:42:32 PM
That is all.
He took over. Has an absolute clutch quick trigger and showed up our POY. Id take him on our roster.
Was super excited when he walked down the tunnel only to see him come back out. Minute later!!!!!!
Quote from: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on March 15, 2019, 11:46:03 PM
He took over. Has an absolute clutch quick trigger and showed up our POY. Id take him on our roster.
Was super excited when he walked down the tunnel only to see him come back out. Minute later!!!!!!
*Injured POY
He's a great player. But he is now at the top of my most hated list. I want to beat them so badly next season.
He's a complete prick and acted like a child most of the night. Typical Seton Hall bs. What a joke of a program.
Imagine defending Powell after the crap he pulled tonight. ::)
Quote from: JakeBarnes on March 15, 2019, 11:45:07 PM
Nah. Classless. Garbage street stuff on the court. Dumb baiting of Wojo off of it. Dude has no class.
What happened after the game between Powell and Wojo?
How about our POY clenching and missing FT's when it mattered. But FT's no matta!
This is Wojo's signature. Team is scared and they played scared. Powell asserted himself. I was there. STFU with your postulating. Saw it in person. Wojo's warriors wilted. Howard, Joe, Sacar in that order.
His elbow to Sacar was more deliberate and flagrant than anything Sacar or Theo did all night. And yet he got to play the whole game.
Punk...
Quote from: tower912 on March 15, 2019, 11:44:02 PM
Nah. Hell of a player. Raised his team up. Should have been ejected. Took advantage of the opportunity.
LOL trying to justify.
Powell is a world class jackass who deserves bad things to happen to him
The kid can get play. He can be on team any day of the week.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on March 15, 2019, 11:42:32 PM
That is all.
(edited to avoid confusion that I am talking about his talent level not his character)
You are a baby. He's tough. MU weak. Next. I was there. Saw it with my own eyes.
I just dont understand any argument of Powell not being thrown out for his elbow to sacars chest and John Gotti g a flagrant two for that push....
Quote from: Goose on March 16, 2019, 12:00:07 AM
The kid can get play. He can be on team any day of the week.
So can Tyreke Hill. Hell of a player, might want to take him too!
Quote from: muhoops1 on March 15, 2019, 11:59:26 PM
This is Wojo's signature. Team is scared and they played scared. Powell asserted himself. I was there. STFU with your postulating. Saw it in person. Wojo's warriors wilted. Howard, Joe, Sacar in that order.
Sacar?? 10 points on efficient scoring and shut down Powell until he got tossed on BS? Yea. He wilted. STFU and go find more losers to praise
Quote from: GooooMarquette on March 15, 2019, 11:59:46 PM
His elbow to Sacar was more deliberate and flagrant than anything Sacar or Theo did all night. And yet he got to play the whole game.
Punk...
I said immediately he should've been ejected. It's no different than a punch except where it landed. It was done with malicious intent and he absolutely should've been ejected
Quote from: Goose on March 16, 2019, 12:00:07 AM
The kid can get play. He can be on team any day of the week.
Amen. People pay too much attention to the chirping. It's nothing.
Quote from: TreeGhost on March 15, 2019, 11:57:50 PM
What happened after the game between Powell and Wojo?
Wojo didn't see Powell try to come up and shake his hand. Powell took offense to that and came at Wojo.
Wojo had already went through the entire SH line, and had turned to go towards mid court/his side when Powell tried to come up from behind to shake his hand. Wojo never even saw him until Powell tried to then come at him and confront him.
Really trashy by Powell. Powell then ran off the court to the locker room and didn't shake any of the MU players hands.
Quote from: muhoops1 on March 15, 2019, 11:59:26 PM
How about our POY clenching and missing FT's when it mattered. But FT's no matta!
This is Wojo's signature. Team is scared and they played scared. Powell asserted himself. I was there. STFU with your postulating. Saw it in person. Wojo's warriors wilted. Howard, Joe, Sacar in that order.
Let me get this straight, we were scared in our OT wins against Louisville and Wisconsin and Creighton....right? GTFO
Quote from: TreeGhost on March 15, 2019, 11:57:50 PM
What happened after the game between Powell and Wojo?
Powell tried to shake Wojo's hand while Wojo's back was turned, then got mad and tried to rush him. His teammates pulled him away. Wojo tried to talk to Powell but they dragged him away before that happened.
Quote from: muhoops1 on March 16, 2019, 12:00:18 AM
You are a baby. He's tough. MU weak. Next. I was there. Saw it with my own eyes.
Oh cmon. He played dirty. Thats not "tough" it is cowardly and the crutch of the weak of character. If anyone was a baby it was him crying on the bench for thinking he got called on his bullshit
Classic and typical SH program of thugs and future members of the NBA or penitentiary.
Willard post game, "Thought the refs did a great job after the scrum."
Yeah, your team started it and the 2 best defensive MU players ejected. Of course you thought it was a great job.
Powell picking a fight at the end of the game handshakes with Wojo completely shameful.
This SH team and program annoys me.
Quote from: tower912 on March 15, 2019, 11:44:02 PM
Nah. Hell of a player. Raised his team up. Should have been ejected. Took advantage of the opportunity.
Tower—I know you hate to see the bad in any player ever.....you're wrong. Total bitch.
Quote from: muhoops1 on March 16, 2019, 12:00:18 AM
You are a baby. He's tough. MU weak. Next. I was there. Saw it with my own eyes.
We had our two best defenders ejected from the game, one of whom also had shut down Powell and had 10 points of his own. Did you see that with your own eyes? Did you see the purposeful swinging elbow that the refs decided allowed him to stay in the game? With your own eyes?
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 16, 2019, 12:02:23 AM
Amen. People pay too much attention to the chirping. It's nothing.
Chirping is whatever, I'd be lying if I didn't talk some crap during games. But I've never launched an elbow into someone's sternum.
Calling Powell classless is an insult to classlessness. He absolutely should not play tomorrow. Should be reassessed to a flagrant 2 & suspended for multiple games starting tomorrow & continuing to January.
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 16, 2019, 12:02:21 AM
I said immediately he should've been ejected. It's no different than a punch except where it landed. It was done with malicious intent and he absolutely should've been ejected
So a guy elbowing a chest is no more dangerous than throwing a punch to the fast. If it was a high elbow that missed I would agree with you but an elbow to the chest is a 5 on a 1-10 scale of inflicting harm to a player.
Quote from: jimmybutlerfanatic on March 16, 2019, 12:04:09 AM
Classic and typical SH program of thugs and future members of the NBA or penitentiary.
Willard post game, "Thought the refs did a great job after the scrum."
Yeah, your team started it and the 2 best defensive MU players ejected. Of course you thought it was a great job.
Powell picking a fight at the end of the game handshakes with Wojo completely shameful.
This SH team and program annoys me.
Please edit out the youtube link. Not necessary and really inappropriate. Not a good look for you or this board.
My favorite Myles Powell moment tonight was when he returned after thinking he had been ejected. You could tell he had been crying.
Having a tough guy, an instigator, an enforcer, whatever, is great. I'd be ashamed to have Powell on my team.
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on March 16, 2019, 12:07:27 AM
So a guy elbowing a chest is no more dangerous than throwing a punch to the fast. If it was a high elbow that missed I would agree with you but an elbow to the chest is a 5 on a 1-10 scale of inflicting harm to a player.
It was premeditated and he only hit the chest because he thought he wouldnt get caught if he hit him there. It wasnt a basketball move. It was an intent to harm. That crap has no place in the game.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 16, 2019, 12:05:06 AM
Calling Powell classless is an insult to classlessness. He absolutely should not play tomorrow. Should be reassessed to a flagrant 2 & suspended for multiple games starting tomorrow & continuing to January.
There was zero chance that he wasn't going to play tonight.......after a T.....after throwing and elbow.....after being escorted to the locker room..after crying that he let his team down......wait wait wtf are you crying for? Get out there and win this thing!
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on March 16, 2019, 12:07:27 AM
So a guy elbowing a chest is no more dangerous than throwing a punch to the fast. If it was a high elbow that missed I would agree with you but an elbow to the chest is a 5 on a 1-10 scale of inflicting harm to a player.
Actually.. you could have caused cardiac injury with elbow to the sternum. Could be WAY worse than punch to the face
Quote from: JakeBarnes on March 16, 2019, 12:10:12 AM
It was premeditated and he only hit the chest because he thought he wouldnt get caught if he hit him there. It wasnt a basketball move. It was an intent to harm. That crap has no place in the game.
McNutpuncher did less.
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on March 16, 2019, 12:07:27 AM
So a guy elbowing a chest is no more dangerous than throwing a punch to the fast. If it was a high elbow that missed I would agree with you but an elbow to the chest is a 5 on a 1-10 scale of inflicting harm to a player.
Have you seen how basketball players punch? Most aren't causing any harm! Seriously though it's as much about evaluating the intent. That was ejection worthy
Quote from: forgetful on March 16, 2019, 12:02:56 AM
Wojo didn't see Powell try to come up and shake his hand. Powell took offense to that and came at Wojo.
Wojo had already went through the entire SH line, and had turned to go towards mid court/his side when Powell tried to come up from behind to shake his hand. Wojo never even saw him until Powell tried to then come at him and confront him.
Really trashy by Powell. Powell then ran off the court to the locker room and didn't shake any of the MU players hands.
Thank you for explaining that ... I just saw it now ... McKnight was saying some trashy stuff towards Wojo, too, it looked like. The less-classy team won tonight. That's all I can say.
Powell's a prima Donna who was complaining to the refs in the first half about how he was being guarded and then threw the elbow. He then needed to be tossed after he confronted Theo.
A great player but that was not being tough. He should have been out.
Even if you give him all that, utter bs he played on Wojo after the game. He's an embarrassment
SH fans online are saying the refs tried to hand the game to Marquette, Wojo is soft and classless, Powell is a warrior, and MU is a bunch of "wannabe tough guys"
Go play more trash Pirates of the Caribbean videos at your bland crap arena. They've made me completely forget about minor annoyances with SJU
Quote from: #UnleashCain on March 16, 2019, 12:01:07 AM
I just dont understand any argument of Powell not being thrown out for his elbow to sacars chest and John [getting] a flagrant two for that push....
As I've thought about this, I think it is largely a matter of time in the game. If they ejected Powell—one of the top 3 players in the Big East— that early in the game, before the game was super-chippy, MU likely rolls and the SHU fans scream bloody murder (which I guess many MU fans are doing now). On the flip side, because John's came late in the game as things were escalating out of control, I think they felt they had to take control, and that since they were also tossing Mamu it sort of balanced out. But by letting Powell get away with that, it set a tone and allowed everything to get out of hand, and we got caught on the wrong side of it.
Quote from: AlumKCof93 on March 16, 2019, 12:26:51 AM
Powell's a prima Donna who was complaining to the refs in the first half about how he was being guarded and then threw the elbow. He then needed to be tossed after he confronted Theo.
A great player but that was not being tough. He should have been out.
Even if you give him all that, utter bs he played on Wojo after the game. He's an embarrassment
It was allowing the lowest common denominator to exist. Refs let it go to hell as a result. Dumb and dangerous
Seton Hall fans want Theo suspended for the NCAAs for his "thug" play.
https://setonhall.forums.rivals.com/threads/theo-john-is-a-thug.39378/
I'll agree that some of the t's on Seton Hall were silly but tossing Theo and Sacar with 12 minutes left, after all the garbage before that call? Give me a break. Seton hall ugliest the game up and the refs allowed it to happen and then lit it on fire
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 16, 2019, 12:52:44 AM
Seton Hall fans want Theo suspended for the NCAAs for his "thug" play.
https://setonhall.forums.rivals.com/threads/theo-john-is-a-thug.39378/
They cry more over less than Powell.
What do trash fans who follow a trash program know about anything?
Quote from: muhoops1 on March 15, 2019, 11:59:26 PM
How about our POY clenching and missing FT's when it mattered. But FT's no matta!
This is Wojo's signature. Team is scared and they played scared. Powell asserted himself. I was there. STFU with your postulating. Saw it in person. Wojo's warriors wilted. Howard, Joe, Sacar in that order.
Are you 12?
Anyone with any common sense knows what a shyteshow that was and I almost wanted us to lose so as to avoid OT and risk serious injury. Have you ever heard of a guy named Bob Knight? Go look up how he felt about Conference tournaments. Call him a dinosaur if you like, but know that he was right. They are TV money-grabs and meaningless re NCAA seeding. Would I like if Marquette won one? Of course. We F'd up by not winning the regular season BE, I concede that to you. The games that really matter are now upon us. Enjoy your La-Z Boy and rooting for more assertive teams.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 16, 2019, 12:52:44 AM
Seton Hall fans want Theo suspended for the NCAAs for his "thug" play.
https://setonhall.forums.rivals.com/threads/theo-john-is-a-thug.39378/
I can honestly say that what I've seen over the last 2 weeks, I can't find a worse, more pathetic fan base than SHU. They were calling Powell honorable and classy for the handshake stuff. That program is cancerous and classless from the coach on down. The same SHU who has won ONE tourney game in a decade is making fun of MU for being soft, chokers, and a joke of a program. I hope they get blown out every game
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 16, 2019, 12:52:44 AM
Seton Hall fans want Theo suspended for the NCAAs for his "thug" play.
https://setonhall.forums.rivals.com/threads/theo-john-is-a-thug.39378/
Pretty ironic that they'd want to set the bar so low, given that their "star" throws elbows and starts fights.
In fairness, I'd be pissed off too if I had to live in Jersey and went to Seton Hall
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 16, 2019, 01:02:33 AM
In fairness, I'd be pissed off too if I had to live in Jersey and went to Seton Hall
I agree with this analysis.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on March 16, 2019, 01:01:42 AM
Pretty ironic that they'd want to set the bar so low, given that their "star" throws elbows and starts fights.
High class program.
https://www.app.com/story/sports/college/2017/02/02/former-seton-hall-star-herb-pope-faces-10-years-jail/97414176/
Quote from: Its DJOver on March 16, 2019, 01:03:43 AM
High class program.
https://www.app.com/story/sports/college/2017/02/02/former-seton-hall-star-herb-pope-faces-10-years-jail/97414176/
powell wont be far behind. nor will mcknight. im guessing their pg from a few years ago is already there.
Quote from: WithoutBias on March 16, 2019, 01:07:26 AM
powell wont be far behind. nor will mcknight. im guessing their pg from a few years ago is already there.
As the proprietor of this thread, I recommend we steer this away from this talk. Let's focus more on how Willard has as much hair as he does moral fiber and the actions of todaym
Quote from: WithoutBias on March 16, 2019, 01:07:26 AM
powell wont be far behind. nor will mcknight. im guessing their pg from a few years ago is already there.
Yeah, this isn't necessary. Powell is at the top of my sh*t list but this crosses a line IMHO.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 16, 2019, 01:16:39 AM
Yeah, this isn't necessary. Powell is at the top of my sh*t list but this crosses a line IMHO.
Again. +1. Please clean up the false equivalence thing. There is plenty to be mad at about SHU, but that is too far.
Quote from: Herman Cain on March 16, 2019, 01:03:25 AM
I agree with this analysis.
In fairness, There are some beautiful cities in New Jersey, ie.Morristown, George Washington likes it so much he wintered there. Hall, never have seen the campus.
Quote from: WithoutBias on March 16, 2019, 01:07:26 AM
powell wont be far behind. nor will mcknight. im guessing their pg from a few years ago is already there.
It was not my intent for anyone to take it this far. I now essentially view Powell and Willard the same way the I saw Yancy Gates and Cronin after this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1N49HSUAvY
I have no doubt that Powell would have swung if the refs and coaches hadn't stepped in as quickly as they did. As terrible as they were all night about making the right call, it could have ensued into a full brawl. You have to give them credit for stopping it as quickly as they did, although it was about the only thing they did right all night.
Fast forward to 01:50...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lwV7RtdIdiE
Quote from: muhoops1 on March 16, 2019, 12:00:18 AM
You are a baby. He's tough. MU weak. Next. I was there. Saw it with my own eyes.
Oh, well, if you were there then I suppose you must be right.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 16, 2019, 12:05:06 AM
Calling Powell classless is an insult to classlessness. He absolutely should not play tomorrow. Should be reassessed to a flagrant 2 & suspended for multiple games starting tomorrow & continuing to January.
This.
Powell wasn't the only player on SH acting childish/classless. I would extend that to include the SH coaching staff.
Quote from: TexMex on March 16, 2019, 10:04:16 AM
Powell wasn't the only player on SH acting childish/classless. I would extend that to include the SH coaching staff.
Yea, Willard has been a tool for years now.
I keep trying to tell myself to calm down, it's just a game but for whatever reason this loss is really eating away at me. So effing frustrating.
i would like to think that if MU players acted in the same way the coaching staff would get involved and shut it down.
Quote from: TexMex on March 16, 2019, 10:07:35 AM
i would like to think that if MU players acted in the same way the coaching staff would get involved and shut it down.
Never happen, there are rules, the Marquette fans have to make a statement and shut down the Big East con.
Quote from: TexMex on March 16, 2019, 10:04:16 AM
Powell wasn't the only player on SH acting childish/classless. I would extend that to include the SH coaching staff.
Which makes the comments about Theo below even more absurd...
https://setonhall.forums.rivals.com/threads/theo-john-is-a-thug.39378/
People praising Willard for recruiting high quality kids and not someone like Theo. Yea...coupled with the negative fan experiences I've had each time I've been to the Prudential Center, I'm fine never rooting for SH again. Conference unity be damned
While I'm pissed that we lost the game, this could be something that really brings the guys together for the tournament to make a run. Also , everybody in this conference is too buddy buddy for me. It was kind of refreshing seeing a chippy conference game like the old big east, even if we lost the game. I'm feeling a deep March run starting next week.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 16, 2019, 10:05:20 AM
Yea, Willard has been a tool for years now.
I keep trying to tell myself to calm down, it's just a game but for whatever reason this loss is really eating away at me. So effing frustrating.
I'm right there with you. Still burning hot. That's what getting cheated leaves you feeling like. I'm a Raider fan (unfortunately) and I'll never get over the tuck rule
I wouldnt be proud to have Powell on my team when he acts like he did last night...been a few times I havent loved Theos sh1t either...including the senseless crap last night. You can be tough and smart at the same time...hope he figures it out.
Quote from: avid1010 on March 16, 2019, 12:34:58 PM
I wouldnt be proud to have Powell on my team when he acts like he did last night...been a few times I havent loved Theos sh1t either...including the senseless crap last night. You can be tough and smart at the same time...hope he figures it out.
What the unnatural carnal knowledge did Theo do last night?
Seton hall men's basketball players have always been classless POSs. My sister played soccer there and was trying to get work done in the study room. She asked some of the basketball players if they could quiet down or take it elsewhere. Donald Copeland, the point guard at the time, took offense and threatened her...he was being restrained from doing worse by his friends. Thugs. This is why I hate losing to that crap program.
Quote from: T.V. Diener 34 on March 16, 2019, 11:46:21 AM
While I'm pissed that we lost the game, this could be something that really brings the guys together for the tournament to make a run. Also , everybody in this conference is too buddy buddy for me. It was kind of refreshing seeing a chippy conference game like the old big east, even if we lost the game. I'm feeling a deep March run starting next week.
Not if the officials have any say. Theo and Sacar will be ejected for just being on the court. The rules are there for our guys to follow any other team can do whatever they want as long as we are on the floor.
That is what it felt like last night. Its going to take me along time to get over this injustice.