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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: StillWarriors on March 03, 2019, 06:25:06 PM
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This game had a bad vibe to it from before the game even started. The crowd, even more than usual, was late arriving and the student sections were about 1/3 full almost right up until gametime. Is it really that hard for people to get to their seats before too for a 2:00 game on a Sunday. For the importance of the game with a conference title there to be had, neither the team or crowd was ever into this one. Yes, the crowd filled in, but we fell behind early and the place seldom got going. Just like in the Nova game, Joey missed a wide open three that might have blown it open and then things got tight down the stretch.
We have not had enough success in recent years for the team or crowd to take a win for granted, but that it exactly what today felt like. I think Wojo felt it too judging by his pissed off reaction to being down 8-2 I believe at the under 16:00 timeout. Unfortunately we never figured out how to take advantage of CU’s aggressive trapping D. Tough one. Time to get up off the mat.
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This might be a bit of a stretch but this game felt pretty similar to the 2011 Cincinnati senior day game on March 2.
We lost that one 67-60 and looked uninspired against Cincinnati’s tough 3/4 court trapping press. Senior Jimmy Butler was one of the only ones who showed up and put in 30 points.
I just remember feeling similar walking out of that game as I did today. Crowd was pretty dead but it’s hard to get into it when there’s no flow. Turnovers, fouls, timeouts, etc. Unfortunately today our best run came right at the end of the first half.
Losing really does bring out some of the annoying parts of the game experience though such as:
1. people not being in their seats until the under 16 timeout.
2. The parachute drop.
3. The embarrassing “pronounce the city” video.
4. The lack of men’s restrooms in the arena.
Those things start to get on my nerves when the team is losing but I don’t notice them during the wins.
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Agreed. It was silent during the Pray video five minutes before tip. Probably could have left the tarps on the western student section.
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As a coach, I would definitely be pretty annoyed by the late turnout under the circumstances. Maybe it is like that everywhere, but pretty demoralizing for a program on the verge of its biggest accomplishment in years. I don’t mean to blame the indifferent play on the crowd, the team didn’t take care of business and I agree that it is hard for the crowd to get too rowdy when there is little flow or momentum.
Torturing myself by rewatching the last 6 minutes. Wow, Joey had a rougher game (especially last few minutes) than I even noticed watching in person. Ugh.
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So now we are blaming the fans for losses?
Nice.
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As a coach, I would definitely be pretty annoyed by the late turnout under the circumstances. Maybe it is like that everywhere, but pretty demoralizing for a program on the verge of its biggest accomplishment in years. I don’t mean to blame the indifferent play on the crowd, the team didn’t take care of business and I agree that it is hard for the crowd to get too rowdy when there is little flow or momentum.
Torturing myself by rewatching the last 6 minutes. Wow, Joey had a rougher game (especially last few minutes) than I even noticed watching in person. Ugh.
Auto show had a lot to do with the late turnout. As for the students, they left 12 to 15 rows empty on the west end.
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Students showing up late in weird. The adults must look at other events downtown. Most didn't give themselves enough time to park because of the Autoshow.
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So now we are blaming the fans for losses?
Nice.
Absolutely ridiculous. The blame is squarely on the alleged coach, who cannot game coach worth a hoot.
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Build a 10K seat on campus arena if you want a rocking environment for a smaller private school.
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So now we are blaming the fans for losses?
Nice.
I don’t think anyone is saying the crowd was responsible for the loss. Just that it was disappointing for a top 10 team.
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So now we are blaming the fans for losses?
Nice.
Apparently you missed this part of my post: “I don’t mean to blame the indifferent play on the crowd, the team didn’t take care of business and I agree that it is hard for the crowd to get too rowdy when there is little flow or momentum.”
The team and crowd laid an egg today.
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Build a 10K seat on campus arena if you want a rocking environment for a smaller private school.
I don’t buy it. It’s been rocking for other games. This game involved a top 10 team with 3 games to go to clinch a Big East title. I stand by my comment it was a weak crowd under the circumstances, and the team wasn’t focused either. It will either serve as a wake up call to finish strong, or will be part of a stumble to the finish line on what has been a great season to this point. I believe we’ll bounce back.
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Students have mid terms starting Monday...
I know that limited turnout from students. No value judgement, just reality.
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Cold and sunny dey had lotz ta due wit da crowd along wit lenghty sermons, hey?
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Crowd was listed as 17,512 out of 17,500 capacity. Not sure what more could be done.
When the road team opponent does well they take the crowd out of the game. That is a fact of life in sports. I don't think that circumstance is anything specific to MU.
Also when the home team has 22 turnovers, that also generally deflates the crowd.
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Capacity is now 17,341.
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They erected standing room rafters for the crowd. The crowd was not the problem. Stop being stupid.
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Students have mid terms starting Monday...
I know that limited turnout from students. No value judgement, just reality.
Makes sense.
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So now we are blaming the fans for losses?
Nice.
Sister Chick, did you commit 22 turnovers? Did Brother Glow?
I didn't! But we get blamed!
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Sister Chick, did you commit 22 turnovers? Did Brother Glow?
I didn't! But we get blamed!
Clearly because you weren't in your seat before the 1st warmups is why markus doesn't know how to play against a double team.
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When only one player on the home team roster actually shows up to play its kind of hard to get even a near capacity crowd going.
The pressure for these remaining games is getting nuts. Got bad vibes going into seton hall. Feels like we on the ropes ready for the offseason
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As far as the late arriving crowd, it was difficult to find parking and took 10 minutes to get through security- I just made it to my seat for tip-off. Difficult game to cheer because off all the turnovers which was the reason for the loss and not the crowd.
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Absolutely ridiculous. The blame is squarely on the alleged coach, who cannot game coach worth a hoot.
Welcome back.
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I’m sorry I did such a bad job at taking care of the ball during the game today
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I’m sorry I did such a bad job at taking care of the ball during the game today
I knew it was you.
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So now we are blaming the fans for losses?
Nice.
Absolutely! There you are with Glow soaking up all that Florida sunshine when you should have been at the game. Make no mistake if you and Glow were there we would have won.
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I think Wojo does not want to change game plans on the fly. He does not ask the team to do things they have not practiced. I credit the Creighton game plan more than anything. It was much more important than the parking, men's rooms or the slow escalator, please.
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I think Wojo does not want to change game plans on the fly. He does not ask the team to do things they have not practiced. I credit the Creighton game plan more than anything. It was much more important than the parking, men's rooms or the slow escalator, please.
That's nonsense... the parachute drop did us in!
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It is difficult to blame the crowd for not being as noisy as desirable yesterday. There was no flow offensively, too many live ball turnovers, and every defensive stop that could have gotten them going had a foul call. I am thinking about Bailey's block, the crowd started to react and then the foul call and the air went out of the balloon.
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It is difficult to blame the crowd for not being as noisy as desirable yesterday. There was no flow offensively, too many live ball turnovers, and every defensive stop that could have gotten them going had a foul call. I am thinking about Bailey's block, the crowd started to react and then the foul call and the air went out of the balloon.
Pretty much the case. We in the crowd tried, but there was never any momentum. Was hoping for it after Sam’s 3, but never happened. Those TOs on the high screens at halfcourt leading to CU scores were absolute killers.
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It is difficult to blame the crowd for not being as noisy as desirable yesterday. There was no flow offensively, too many live ball turnovers, and every defensive stop that could have gotten them going had a foul call. I am thinking about Bailey's block, the crowd started to react and then the foul call and the air went out of the balloon.
True. I kept thinking we take over like the Prov game at home. Too many momentum killers and the TOs got so demoralizing. Offense seemed completely stumped by the traps and hesitant. The series of two passes behind the target by Joey that got stolen and Joey and Sam just getting the ball knocked out of their hands-all in the last four minutes-didn't give us a chance.
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I am one to think the BC was louder. Not sure why that is but it seems that way. I also think the bow tied student section is not working out as it isn't coordinated. That may take some growing pains.
I am not one to jump on the blame the students bandwagon which has become a cliche here. But, wtf? There were lots of empty rows again on the west side and quite a bit of empties on the east. I can see a mid-week game but a Sunday game at 2PM? I still say MUAD will look at that inventory.
Meanwhile, it takes the Vesties five minutes into the 2nd half to return to their seats. But, there is no killer of momentum like 22 turns.
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Speaking of halftime, that halftime act was pretty incredible yesterday.
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Fault is on the players. They played poorly. Everyone is so anxious to look for less tangible reasons.
They are tough kids and will bounce back.
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Speaking of halftime, that halftime act was pretty incredible yesterday.
Yes, it was!
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Speaking of halftime, that halftime act was pretty incredible yesterday.
https://www.facebook.com/FOXCBB/videos/408963486574987?sfns=xmwa
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https://www.facebook.com/FOXCBB/videos/408963486574987?sfns=xmwa
Thanks for posting!
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You know .. while that kind of halftime entertainment is fun .. most of the time we're out in the hallway "missing" the act.
I think the best act is .. invite some kids' teams to play ball. They love playing on center court, and the crowd generally likes seeing little kids play. Cost should be near zero.
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https://www.facebook.com/FOXCBB/videos/408963486574987?sfns=xmwa
That looks like it hurts.
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The crowd had absolutely nothing to do with Marquette committing 22 turnovers.
MU outshot Creighton from 2-point range (56.5% to 45.5%) and from 3-point range (34.8% to 30.0%). But we had more turnovers than made field goals. That was the single most important factor in the loss.
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You know .. while that kind of halftime entertainment is fun .. most of the time we're out in the hallway "missing" the act.
I think the best act is .. invite some kids' teams to play ball. They love playing on center court, and the crowd generally likes seeing little kids play. Cost should be near zero.
The Bucks make money on these kids' games. They let the kids on the teams in free, but all of their parents and guests have to buy tickets.