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Title: Should Touney start??
Post by: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on March 03, 2019, 05:05:01 PM
Hate to say it cuz ive dogged on him all year but should tooney be starting. 

We have been exposed by teams for not having a real point guard.   He looks fairly confident when he has the ball and is looking to pass.    Anyone else think he should be in the starting 5 at this point?

Title: Re: Should Touney start??
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 03, 2019, 05:09:07 PM
Exposed to the tune of a 23-6 record.
Title: Re: Should Touney start??
Post by: CountryRoads on March 03, 2019, 05:11:20 PM
I don't think he should but I think John should be pulled from the starting lineup and sit the first few minutes of the game. He's such a difference maker when he is in there but fouls have been finding him like crazy in the first half the last few games it seems.
Title: Re: Should Touney start??
Post by: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on March 03, 2019, 05:11:37 PM
Right right but in each loss the lack of a real pg has been blatantly obvious.  Touney has the best vision by far. And it pains me to say that but i think he needs more pt. 
Title: Re: Should Touney start??
Post by: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on March 03, 2019, 05:12:33 PM
Quote from: AirPunch on March 03, 2019, 05:11:20 PM
I don't think he should but I think John should be pulled from the starting lineup and sit the first few minutes of the game. He's such a difference maker when he is in there but fouls have been finding him like crazy in the first half the last few games it seems.

Not a bad idea for sure!!!  Let the game settle out a bit and see how much banging the refs will allow
Title: Re: Should Touney start??
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 03, 2019, 05:14:51 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 03, 2019, 05:09:07 PM
Exposed to the tune of a 23-6 record.

In 5 of those 6 losses the problem has been a double team. I'd say this is a reasonable question
Title: Re: Should Touney start??
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 03, 2019, 05:15:42 PM
I'm just not of the opinion that you should make major changes to a roster that started 23-4 just because they lost two games, one of which they were projected to lose.
Title: Re: Should Touney start??
Post by: D'Lo Brown on March 03, 2019, 05:16:00 PM
10 minutes, 1 rebound, 0 assists, 0 points.
Title: Re: Should Touney start??
Post by: tower912 on March 03, 2019, 05:26:36 PM
ROFL.
Title: Re: Should Touney start??
Post by: wadesworld on March 03, 2019, 05:27:01 PM
No.
Title: Re: Should Touney start??
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 03, 2019, 05:37:00 PM
Quote from: D'Lo Brown on March 03, 2019, 05:16:00 PM
10 minutes, 1 rebound, 0 assists, 0 points.

Why are you posting a stat line for a defensive pg?

I'm more impressed by the 1 to as a primary ball handler. Which is what we need.
Title: Re: Should Touney start??
Post by: MUBurrow on March 03, 2019, 07:23:17 PM
Quote from: AirPunch on March 03, 2019, 05:11:20 PM
I don't think he should but I think John should be pulled from the starting lineup and sit the first few minutes of the game. He's such a difference maker when he is in there but fouls have been finding him like crazy in the first half the last few games it seems.

Didn't Crean used to do this with Ousmane for a year or two?
Title: Re: Should Touney start??
Post by: The Sultan on March 03, 2019, 07:31:00 PM
Quote from: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on March 03, 2019, 05:11:37 PM
Right right but in each loss the lack of a real pg has been blatantly obvious.  Touney has the best vision by far. And it pains me to say that but i think he needs more pt. 


Markus:  Assist Percentage: 27.2; Turnover Percentage:  15.7%
Chartouny:  23.2%; **34.6%***

I think that speaks for itself.
Title: Re: Should Touney start??
Post by: tower912 on March 03, 2019, 07:38:41 PM
Before his injury, Greg Elliott was playing well enough to start, according to Wojo.  This is why MU wanted Grimes.  This is why McEwen, Elliott, Akanno will be around next year.  This is why Symir was such a big signing.   When Chartouny  failed to be who we all hoped he would be and GE got hurt, PG became an issue.
Title: Re: Should Touney start??
Post by: The Sultan on March 03, 2019, 07:42:54 PM
Quote from: tower912 on March 03, 2019, 07:38:41 PM
Before his injury, Greg Elliott was playing well enough to start, according to Wojo.  This is why MU wanted Grimes.  This is why McEwen, Elliott, Akanno will be around next year.  This is why Symir was such a big signing.   When Chartouny  failed to be who we all hoped he would be and GE got hurt, PG became an issue.


Exactly.  I don't think Markus is a great PG by any means.  But you're not changing point guards now.
Title: Re: Should Touney start??
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 03, 2019, 07:44:15 PM
Nah man, da dude is mid major terrible, hey?
Title: Re: Should Touney start??
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 03, 2019, 08:03:06 PM
Greg was never going to be our point. We tried it for 3 minutes last year and we didnt get the ball past half court. I dont know where this thought of elliot is pg savior keeps coming from.
Title: Re: Should Touney start??
Post by: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on March 03, 2019, 08:05:40 PM
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 03, 2019, 07:31:00 PM

Markus:  Assist Percentage: 27.2; Turnover Percentage:  15.7%
Chartouny:  23.2%; **34.6%***

I think that speaks for itself.

Id like to see that stat compiled for losses vs our wins.   
Title: Re: Should Touney start??
Post by: The Sultan on March 03, 2019, 08:07:32 PM
Quote from: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on March 03, 2019, 08:05:40 PM
Id like to see that stat compiled for losses vs our wins.   


I'm not sure why that matters.
Title: Re: Should Touney start??
Post by: tower912 on March 03, 2019, 08:09:49 PM
Chartouny is Derrick Wilson with worse defense and more turnovers.
Title: Re: Should Touney start??
Post by: Sir Lawrence on March 03, 2019, 08:17:32 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 03, 2019, 07:44:15 PM
Nah man, da dude is mid major terrible, hey?

This.
Title: Re: Should Touney start??
Post by: Cheeks on March 03, 2019, 09:19:01 PM
Unlikely to tweak the starting lineup this late in the year.  Could they make a quicker adjustment? Potentially, but only 5 days ago no one here was calling for any of this.  Talk about panic city.  My God.
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