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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Otule's Glass Eye on February 27, 2019, 09:25:28 PM
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https://twitter.com/sportscenter/status/1100957585996419073?s=21
What a moment for the GOAT
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I spent four hours today with Shareef Abdur Rahim (#3 pick overall in his own right, President of the G League)...he had some high praise for Marquette guys, especially Wade and Rivers. Wade's play in the NBA helped MU tremendously the last 15 years. No doubt about it. NO DOUBT.
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That fact that it came against the Warriors makes it infinitely better.
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Heat really needed that win too. Another great moment for D Wade. Hard to believe his career is coming to an end. Seems like it just started.
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I spent four hours today with Shareef Abdur Rahim (#3 pick overall in his own right, President of the G League)...he had some high praise for Marquette guys, especially Wade and Rivers. Wade's play in the NBA helped MU tremendously the last 15 years. No doubt about it. NO DOUBT.
Did you tell him he played like King Kong? ;D
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Did you tell him he played like King Kong? ;D
No, we Kept it to stud, beast mode (is that ok), silky smooth, etc.
G League going to be an interesting destination spot for high school players starting next year. Gave an amazing stat, 52% of NBA players spent time in the G League. That blew me away, but with the way clubs are using G League now to bring guys up and down it’s possible.
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No, we Kept it to stud, beast mode (is that ok), silky smooth, etc.
G League going to be an interesting destination spot for high school players starting next year. Gave an amazing stat, 52% of NBA players spent time in the G League. That blew me away, but with the way clubs are using G League now to bring guys up and down it’s possible.
That's interesting. Are they going to get any increase in televised games? How are they going to pay the increased G League salaries? Is the NBA fronting that money?
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Did you tell him he played like King Kong? ;D
IMHO, we should call him a Warrior.
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Is the NBA fronting that money?
Yes. As they have been for a while. The G league is now a legit minor league on level with AAA minors.
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That's interesting. Are they going to get any increase in televised games? How are they going to pay the increased G League salaries? Is the NBA fronting that money?
NBA is fronting and they have an educational option they have setup with Arizona State per Rahim. Not huge amounts of money.
They are essentially making the claim that they are the second best league in the world. I still don’t think many will go there and told him that my belief is kids want to build their brands which college lets them do. Some of these G League teams are very small followings while others not too bad. TV is basically on Twitch and ESPN+
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I spent four hours today with Shareef Abdur Rahim (#3 pick overall in his own right, President of the G League)...he had some high praise for Marquette guys, especially Wade and Rivers. Wade's play in the NBA helped MU tremendously the last 15 years. No doubt about it. NO DOUBT.
Four hours? Wow. Well, we're all very happy for you.
NO DOUBT Wade's play helped MU tremendously? I'm as big a Wade fan as anyone here, but which players who wouldn't have come to MU ended up here because of D Wade? Evidence?
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Four hours? Wow. Well, we're all very happy for you.
NO DOUBT Wade's play helped MU tremendously? I'm as big a Wade fan as anyone here, but which players who wouldn't have come to MU ended up here because of D Wade? Evidence?
Sorry Lenny, just the facts....it was an enjoyable afternoon. No need to be happy for me, be happy for you and your family.
I said his play helped MU tremendously....that came directly from two former MU coaches. His play, the association with MU and continuing to keep the school in media light were beneficial to the program. How many kids came to MU because of Wade....I don’t know nor did I make any such claim kids came to MU because of him, though I would surmise it didn’t hurt.
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Four hours? Wow. Well, we're all very happy for you.
NO DOUBT Wade's play helped MU tremendously? I'm as big a Wade fan as anyone here, but which players who wouldn't have come to MU ended up here because of D Wade? Evidence?
I feel like McNeal said wade was a huge factor in him coming in an interview?
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NO DOUBT Wade's play helped MU tremendously? I'm as big a Wade fan as anyone here, but which players who wouldn't have come to MU ended up here because of D Wade? Evidence?
I know for a fact Gabrielle Union never would have come here if not for him.
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This isn't controversial, not sure why it would even have to be discussed by either side. Wade has been massive for us since the first game he played until now and will continue to pay dividends well into the future.
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This isn't controversial, not sure why it would even have to be discussed by either side. Wade has been massive for us since the first game he played until now and will continue to pay dividends well into the future.
For some that hate the guy who brought him here, it's a bit of a sore point for them for the same reason he's the only one to get us back to the Final Four.
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For some that hate the guy who brought him here, it's a bit of a sore point for them for the same reason he's the only one to get us back to the Final Four.
Hate the player Crean, not the game Wade, eh?
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Sorry Lenny, just the facts....it was an enjoyable afternoon. No need to be happy for me, be happy for you and your family.
I said his play helped MU tremendously....that came directly from two former MU coaches. His play, the association with MU and continuing to keep the school in media light were beneficial to the program. How many kids came to MU because of Wade....I don’t know nor did I make any such claim kids came to MU because of him, though I would surmise it didn’t hurt.
So there is ZERO EVIDENCE that D Wades play in the NBA was responsible for any player coming to Marquette yet there is NO DOUBT that his play in the NBA helped MU TREMENDOUSLY. Ex Marquette coach kiss up/coach speak isn't evidence. And even at that you have no quotes, only an assertion. Any facts?
Wade is a great player and a good guy but c'mon. I'm not picking on Dwyane - I don't think Steph Curry has been a tremendous help to Davidson. Or Kevin Durant to Texas. Or Westbrook to UCLA. Or Chris Paul to LSU (IIRC). Or Lebron to St Marys HS. And on and on, so it goes.
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I thought the 3 amigos, Dominic James in particular, referenced Wade when committing to Marquette. Maybe I misremembered.
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So there is ZERO EVIDENCE that D Wades play in the NBA was responsible for any player coming to Marquette yet there is NO DOUBT that his play in the NBA helped MU TREMENDOUSLY. Ex Marquette coach kiss up/coach speak isn't evidence. And even at that you have no quotes, only an assertion. Any facts?
Wade is a great player and a good guy but c'mon. I'm not picking on Dwyane - I don't think Steph Curry has been a tremendous help to Davidson. Or Kevin Durant to Texas. Or Westbrook to UCLA. Or Chris Paul to LSU (IIRC). Or Lebron to St Marys HS. And on and on, so it goes.
Chris Paul played at Wake Forest.
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How 'bout that shot by Wade, though!
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I thought the 3 amigos, Dominic James in particular, referenced Wade when committing to Marquette. Maybe I misremembered.
If they did I never saw it - and I followed recruiting closely.
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How 'bout that shot by Wade, though!
Awesome, to be sure!
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Chris Paul played at Wake Forest.
Right. He had zero impact on Wake Forest, not LSU.
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I think saying D Wade was THE reason any particular recruit came to Marquette would be a mistake.
I think saying D Wade had zero impact any recruit coming to Marquette would be a mistake.
I would guess that the truth is somewhere in between.
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Right. He had zero impact on Wake Forest, not LSU.
I think it's safe to say Paul had zero impact on LSU, too.
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So there is ZERO EVIDENCE that D Wades play in the NBA was responsible for any player coming to Marquette yet there is NO DOUBT that his play in the NBA helped MU TREMENDOUSLY. Ex Marquette coach kiss up/coach speak isn't evidence. And even at that you have no quotes, only an assertion. Any facts?
Wade is a great player and a good guy but c'mon. I'm not picking on Dwyane - I don't think Steph Curry has been a tremendous help to Davidson. Or Kevin Durant to Texas. Or Westbrook to UCLA. Or Chris Paul to LSU (IIRC). Or Lebron to St Marys HS. And on and on, so it goes.
Let’s see there are several players on the current team that said he is like an idol, they grew up watching him and it is an honor to play at the same school as him.
Then there are the recruits, including some of Buzz’s, that said they knew of Marquette primarily because of Dwayne Wade.
Then there are the comments from two former MU coaches about Wade’s role in keeping MU relevant. Yes, i’ll Ignore all that. LOL.
The reason they came to MU? Nope. Or did I say anything of the sort. One of the reasons they came to MU because of Wade, either directly or indirectly .....no doubt.
Apparently you missed Steph at Davidson a few weeks back and as they spoke to some kids why did they go to Davidson....answer...Steph Curry.
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I think saying D Wade was THE reason any particular recruit came to Marquette would be a mistake.
I think saying D Wade had zero impact any recruit coming to Marquette would be a mistake.
I would guess that the truth is somewhere in between.
STOP BEING LOGICAL!!!
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STOP BEING LOGICAL!!!
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Apparently you missed Steph at Davidson a few weeks back and as they spoke to some kids why did they go to Davidson....answer...Steph Curry.
Nine years prior to Steph Curry's arrival at Davidson - 3 NCAA tournament bids, zero wins. Nine years since he left - 4 NCAA tournament bids, zero wins.
That may be your definition of a no doubt about it huge benefit. Not mine. Big time players can help the brand a little, contribute in small ways. Big time coaches are the difference makers.
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I think it's safe to say Paul had zero impact on LSU, too.
Excellent!
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I think saying D Wade was THE reason any particular recruit came to Marquette would be a mistake.
I think saying D Wade had zero impact any recruit coming to Marquette would be a mistake.
I would guess that the truth is somewhere in between.
Dwyane Wade (and Don Kojis, George Thompson, Dean Meminger, Jim Chones, Bo Ellis, Maurice Lucas, Butch Lee, Earl Tatum, Doc Rivers, Tony Smith, Jim McIlvaine, Tony Miller, Aaron Hutchins, Steve Novak, Travis Diener, Domonique James, Jerel McNeal, Wesley Matthews, Jimmy Butler, Jae Crowder and many, many more have contributed to the Marquette "brand". Wade probably more than any.
However, their contributions to the program after they leave are negligible, not massive as Chico would have you believe. Sustained excellence, mediocrity or worse has all occurred at some point after these guys left - I don't see a reason to give them a lot of credit or blame.
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Beyond silly. There's a reason why MU, UNC, Duke, Kansas, Wisconsin, etc, put current players of the NBA in their media guides and tout them often....because they want recruits to know they, too, can be like Mike, Dwyane, Jimmy, etc. For the same reason the department on countless times did videos with Dwyane and every other program worth their salt does the same thing, while they are in the NBA....because it provides publicity and aspiration for future players, but also for the university in general
It's why kids in the media guide or interviewed when asked "why did you choose XXXXXX" and they rattle off a couple of things, and sometimes also things like "because I wanted to play at the school Michael Jordan played at"...."because I pattern my game after YYYY and he went here".
NO DOUBT the benefits that come to MU with him continuing to play in the NBA. A simple search when we did the honor for him last month shows article after article in Miami, Cleveland, Chicago, Milwaukee, Dallas, as well as national media outlets with the tie of NBA FUTURE HALL OF FAMER AND MARQUETTE UNIVERSITY. This is PR 101. NO DOUBT the BENEFITS. NO. DOUBT.
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KEEP SHOUTING!!!! It proves the weakness of your arguments to all who weren't already convinced.
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MU doesn't have a media guide anymore.
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MU doesn't have a media guide anymore.
LOL. Yet Chicos managed to fluff Tom Crean and his Wisconsin Badgers despite them having nothing to do with the topic.
Pavlov’s dog’s got nothing on you, Chico’s.
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Nine years prior to Steph Curry's arrival at Davidson - 3 NCAA tournament bids, zero wins. Nine years since he left - 4 NCAA tournament bids, zero wins.
Thanks to Vander Blue.
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MU doesn't have a media guide anymore.
Now we do it with videos, social, etc....all of which have included D Wade the last few years. PR101. We had a media guide through 2014 and he was featured prominently, as he should have....literally starting on page 2.
https://gomarquette.com/documents/2013/12/30/_marq_m_baskbl_2013_14_misc_non_event__1314_mbbguide.pdf
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Nine years prior to Steph Curry's arrival at Davidson - 3 NCAA tournament bids, zero wins. Nine years since he left - 4 NCAA tournament bids, zero wins.
That may be your definition of a no doubt about it huge benefit. Not mine. Big time players can help the brand a little, contribute in small ways. Big time coaches are the difference makers.
Of course big time coaches are difference makers, where did anyone say that differently. You're arguing something that isn't even in the discussion. I merely said Wade playing in the NBA as long as he did paid benefits to Marquette, something the athletic department will tell you, MU coaches will tell, etc. Many other things did, too. There's a reason why Rahim mentioned it to me, because Wade was that big a deal.
It's amazing that something as innocuous as "Wade's play in the NBA helped MU tremendously the last 15 years. No doubt about it. NO DOUBT"....a true statement, got you all spun up. Really is.