Figurin' Zion's knot gonna sign a shoo contract wit Knight's brand. Wear has LA Gear and New Balance gone, hey?
So, so, so, so listen up 'cause you can't say nothin'
You'll shut me down with a push of your button?
But you, I'm out and I'm gone
I'll tell you now, I keep it on and on
Shouldn't have been so quick to take that Nike Duke money, hey?
Quote from: Benny B on February 20, 2019, 10:17:02 PM
So, so, so, so listen up 'cause you can't say nothin'
You'll shut me down with a push of your button?
But you, I'm out and I'm gone
I'll tell you now, I keep it on and on
Interesting theory.
Wearing those shoes that Marquette wore in the 90's that kept blowing out in the O'Neil era? Was it LA Gear or something like that?
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on February 21, 2019, 08:13:19 AM
Wearing those shoes that Marquette wore in the 90's that kept blowing out in the O'Neil era? Was it LA Gear or something like that?
Mentioned elsewhere, but yes, it was LA Gear. I think MU was a Pony school for a bit while I was there.
Quote from: PTM on February 21, 2019, 05:36:38 AM
Interesting theory.
Not necessarily a theory... but first thing that popped into my head.
Consider:
1) Zion - as amazing as he is - wasn't doing anything extraordinary when his shoe disintegrated. He's not the first 285 pounder who's ever stopped on a dime laterally.
2) Even if he was, weight shouldn't be a deciding factor. These shoes aren't being designed by JPL engineers or manufactured to Boeing tolerances.... with so much variation in the construction, they must be designed to withstand at least 2x or 3x the weight of an average player; in other words, if the design spec was 284 lbs, you'd have players busting their shoes every game due to the tolerances alone.
3) That being said: if Nike does have a JPL engineer and a Boeing operator on the construction line, you'd better damn well believe that Zion's shoes were under their supervision. They say there's no such thing as bad publicity... well, I'm not sure that applies to basketball shoes. Right or wrong, if Zion ends up being done for the season, every D-I player sporting a pair of Nikes is going to lose a bit of confidence in their equipment.
4) How often does this happen? Personally, I've seen busted laces, busted seams, detached soles at the toe or heel, popped bladders (remember the "Pumps"), but I've never seen a shoe fail like this. For this to happen to the biggest player in D-I hoops, in the biggest game of the regular season (and possibly the biggest college game he'll play), with the biggest ticket prices, on a stage including the biggest of wigs like Pres. Obama.... that's too much of a coincidence of epic proportions for anyone to dismiss the possibility of nefarious UNC fans (or LA Gear execs).
Now, I won't go this far, but if Miller and Pitino are involved somehow, this is going to make for a great movie someday.
The Lebron is a little different than the Paul George that Zion was wearing.
PG sneakers are traaaaassssh.
Quote from: Benny B on February 21, 2019, 10:23:37 AM
Not necessarily a theory... but first thing that popped into my head.
Consider:
1) Zion - as amazing as he is - wasn't doing anything extraordinary when his shoe disintegrated. He's not the first 285 pounder who's ever stopped on a dime laterally.
2) Even if he was, weight shouldn't be a deciding factor. These shoes aren't being designed by JPL engineers or manufactured to Boeing tolerances.... with so much variation in the construction, they must be designed to withstand at least 2x or 3x the weight of an average player; in other words, if the design spec was 284 lbs, you'd have players busting their shoes every game due to the tolerances alone.
3) That being said: if Nike does have a JPL engineer and a Boeing operator on the construction line, you'd better damn well believe that Zion's shoes were under their supervision. They say there's no such thing as bad publicity... well, I'm not sure that applies to basketball shoes. Right or wrong, if Zion ends up being done for the season, every D-I player sporting a pair of Nikes is going to lose a bit of confidence in their equipment.
4) How often does this happen? Personally, I've seen busted laces, busted seams, detached soles at the toe or heel, popped bladders (remember the "Pumps"), but I've never seen a shoe fail like this. For this to happen to the biggest player in D-I hoops, in the biggest game of the regular season (and possibly the biggest college game he'll play), with the biggest ticket prices, on a stage including the biggest of wigs like Pres. Obama.... that's too much of a coincidence of epic proportions for anyone to dismiss the possibility of nefarious UNC fans (or LA Gear execs).
Now, I won't go this far, but if Miller and Pitino are involved somehow, this is going to make for a great movie someday.
Where was Tim donaghy last night?
Quote from: reinko on February 21, 2019, 11:06:38 AM
PG sneakers are traaaaassssh.
Have never worn the 2 or 2.5, but his original ones are the best basketball shoes I've ever worn. Light, low enough, but also enough support. Very comfortable.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 21, 2019, 12:43:42 PM
Have never worn the 2 or 2.5, but his original ones are the best basketball shoes I've ever worn. Light, low enough, but also enough support. Very comfortable.
Yes, that may be well and true. But could you dunk in them?
Quote from: Benny B on February 21, 2019, 01:20:42 PM
Yes, that may be well and true. But could you dunk in them?
I walked into the gym last night and one of the side hoops was set to 8 feet. I dunked on that, so to answer your question...heck yeah I can!
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 20, 2019, 10:06:33 PM
Figurin' Zion's knot gonna sign a shoo contract wit Knight's brand. Wear has LA Gear and New Balance gone, hey?
Make Sneakers Great Again
And yes, he is going to sign a contract with Zion for a gazillion dollars, or if not last night will allow him to get even more from someone else....either way, last night's scare just mean millions more in his bank account.
Don't be a bunch of Darren Rovells
https://deadspin.com/darren-rovell-is-absolutely-losing-it-over-the-shoe-1832774175 (https://deadspin.com/darren-rovell-is-absolutely-losing-it-over-the-shoe-1832774175)
Quote from: GB Warrior on February 21, 2019, 02:05:57 PM
Don't be a bunch of Darren Rovells
https://deadspin.com/darren-rovell-is-absolutely-losing-it-over-the-shoe-1832774175 (https://deadspin.com/darren-rovell-is-absolutely-losing-it-over-the-shoe-1832774175)
He's the worst. Nerd.
Quote from: tower912 on February 21, 2019, 08:18:42 AM
Mentioned elsewhere, but yes, it was LA Gear. I think MU was a Pony school for a bit while I was there.
Dukiet - Pony
KO - Nike then LAGear back to Nike
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 20, 2019, 10:06:33 PM
Figurin' Zion's knot gonna sign a shoo contract wit Knight's brand. Wear has LA Gear and New Balance gone, hey?
not to worry-LaVar will fill the vacuum-buy one, get one
Charles Barkley is a national treasure
Quote from: Cheeks on February 22, 2019, 08:20:51 AM
Charles Barkley is a national treasure
What'd he say about Nike or Zion?
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 22, 2019, 09:13:44 AM
What'd he say about Nike or Zion?
He had opinions on a lot of things last night. They had to stop the show a few times people were laughing so hard, especially the camera guys and behind the scenes folks. Opinions on Zion, college basketball, Chicago, Jussie, etc. People were in tears.
"America, do not commit crimes with checks....get cash man" OMG, funny.
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/02/zion-williamson-injury-duke-charles-barkley/amp
https://twitter.com/gifdsports/status/1098809760407785472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1098809760407785472&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fsports.yahoo.com%2Fcharles-barkley-jokes-jussie-smollett-liam-neeson-065029409.html
Is it true he had worn the same shoes for every game this season? If so, the blowout makes more sense.
A little off topic, but Kevin Harlan was absolutely on fire last night too. The game was pretty poor in the third quarter but he was keeping it interesting.
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/02/bucks-celtics-kevin-harlan-beer
Inside the NBA is the best sports related show on TV. Just unfiltered hilarity and insight. It was amazing then went up another notch when Shaq joined. He unleashed Barkley even more.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on February 22, 2019, 10:00:35 AM
A little off topic, but Kevin Harlan was absolutely on fire last night too. The game was pretty poor in the third quarter but he was keeping it interesting.
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/02/bucks-celtics-kevin-harlan-beer
The funniest part of his call last night was there were about 5-6 straight possessions of quick, early, open 3 point looks for both teams and all 5-6 of them bricked, and the only word either Harlan or Reggie could get in was basically saying "(enter player's name) takes an open 3...No!" and finally after a rebound Reggie just said, "NOOOO!" and started laughing. That was one awful basketball game until the last 2 minutes or so when both teams hit some big shots.
Quote from: tower912 on February 22, 2019, 10:00:33 AM
Is it true he had worn the same shoes for every game this season? If so, the blowout makes more sense.
Even so, the odds that it happens 30 seconds into the game.... mmm mmmm mmmmm.
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Sew, maybee UNC payd off a Dook manager ta damage da shoo just ta get Zion outta da game, hey?
Nike stock up 1% today, nearly double the S&P 500's gain. Stock is only about $1 lower than its all-time high.
It gained after the Kaepernick ad, too.
Great companies are resilient.
Quote from: tower912 on February 21, 2019, 08:18:42 AM
Mentioned elsewhere, but yes, it was LA Gear. I think MU was a Pony school for a bit while I was there.
Pony. Those were the spikes we wore for our high school baseball team.
Wait, did I say high school?? I'm sorry. I meant to say our "elite east coast prep school." You know , like Phillips Exeter and Andover and what not. Great weekend parties and what have you.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 22, 2019, 03:27:43 PM
Sew, maybee UNC payd off a Dook manager ta damage da shoo just ta get Zion outta da game, hey?
Tom Brady did it!
Quote from: JWags85 on February 22, 2019, 10:06:11 AM
Inside the NBA is the best sports related show on TV. Just unfiltered hilarity and insight. It was amazing then went up another notch when Shaq joined. He unleashed Barkley even more.
Love Inside the NBA, but I actually find Shaq more annoying than funny.
Nike stock hit new all-time high today.
Stuff like Zion's shoe and Kaepernick ad are what seasoned investors call "noise."
Noise makes stock prices go up or down short-term. More long-term, fundamentals rule the day.
Oh, and I agree with Chitown about Shaq. His almost incoherent mumblings add very little to the TNT show IMHO. I do like Chuck, Kenny and Ernie, though.
Quote from: MU82 on March 01, 2019, 09:41:38 AM
Nike stock hit new all-time high today.
Stuff like Zion's shoe and Kaepernick ad are what seasoned investors call "noise."
Noise makes stock prices go up or down short-term. More long-term, fundamentals rule the day.
Oh, and I agree with Chitown about Shaq. His almost incoherent mumblings add very little to the TNT show IMHO. I do like Chuck, Kenny and Ernie, though.
Those little kids and sweatshops are just cranking out the products these days....I hope they are getting $15 an hour....
Quote from: Cheeks on March 01, 2019, 10:29:48 AM
Those little kids and sweatshops are just cranking out the products these days....I hope they are getting $15 an hour....
Your outrage about this has led you to buy zero products from Nike or any other company that operates similarly, correct?
Quote from: MU82 on March 01, 2019, 12:29:44 PM
Your outrage about this has led you to buy zero products from Nike or any other company that operates similarly, correct?
Nope, because I'm not outraged by it (wage part) for the same reason you continue to watch NFL games, watch NCAA games, even though railing on them.
Do I want kids working? No. How much is that happening now? I have no idea, but from reports it seems to have been stopped for the most part. Exceptions should be dealt with and violators punished. On the wage front, some of these jobs are paying more in that country then most. Market rates.
Quote from: MU82 on March 01, 2019, 09:41:38 AM
Nike stock hit new all-time high today.
Stuff like Zion's shoe and Kaepernick ad are what seasoned investors call "noise."
Noise makes stock prices go up or down short-term. More long-term, fundamentals rule the day.
Oh, and I agree with Chitown about Shaq. His almost incoherent mumblings add very little to the TNT show IMHO. I do like Chuck, Kenny and Ernie, though.
There is little doubt that Zion will be will Nike for a long time. He will make them a lot of money. Obviously, he will make himself a lot, as well. The blowout will only increase the haul.
Quote from: Cheeks on March 01, 2019, 10:29:48 AM
Those little kids and sweatshops are just cranking out the products these days....I hope they are getting $15 an hour....
Cheeks .... here's an issue upon which we agree (though your claims of Nike employing child labor are vastly overstated). Regardless, it seems we both believe that it's wrong for big Western corporations like Nike to exploit low-skilled labor in emerging and poor nations for the sake of profit.
What do you think should be done about this?
Quote from: Cheeks on March 01, 2019, 02:02:08 PM
Nope, because I'm not outraged by it (wage part) for the same reason you continue to watch NFL games, watch NCAA games, even though railing on them.
Ah. Just standard goalpost-shifting to an issue that wasn't discussed and had nothing to do with the conversation. Got it.
I enjoy NFL games, and I'd welcome you showing examples of me being "outraged" by the NFL.