Need them to pull off win against Nova tomorrow
Quote from: Cheeks on February 15, 2019, 09:30:12 AM
Need them to pull off win against Nova tomorrow
Sunday
Don't NEED them to. MU controls their own destiny to the BE 1 seed
Quote from: dannyb334 on February 15, 2019, 09:37:41 AM
Don't NEED them to. MU controls their own destiny to the BE 1 seed
This is true. Even if St. Johns wins, and MU loses @Nova they will be ahead.
At this point...please just keep St. Johns on the other side of the BET bracket.
Screw St John's.
What's up with people wanting st John's on the other side of the bracket? I say I hope we play them again. If we cant beat a bubble st John's 1 out of three times then we dont deserve to make a run in March. I mean come on.
Quote from: Johnny B on February 15, 2019, 11:47:54 AM
What's up with people wanting st John's on the other side of the bracket? I say I hope we play them again. If we cant beat a bubble st John's 1 out of three times then we dont deserve to make a run in March. I mean come on.
Because we struggle with them and they are clearly a bad matchup. It would be a true road game instead of neutral. We want our team to win the BET and playing both SJU and Nova decreases the chances of that.
Quote from: Johnny B on February 15, 2019, 11:47:54 AM
What's up with people wanting st John's on the other side of the bracket? I say I hope we play them again. If we cant beat a bubble st John's 1 out of three times then we dont deserve to make a run in March. I mean come on.
Sometimes teams are just bad match-ups irrespective of their actual record.
Quote from: Johnny B on February 15, 2019, 11:47:54 AM
What's up with people wanting st John's on the other side of the bracket? I say I hope we play them again. If we cant beat a bubble st John's 1 out of three times then we dont deserve to make a run in March. I mean come on.
I agree, the Johnnies have a whuppin' coming from us and MU will whup them in a 3rd meeting.
I want the Johnnies on the other side of the bracket bc a Saturday night tilt at the Garden vs St. John's would be electric.
Quote from: MUeagle1090 on February 15, 2019, 11:50:01 AM
Because we struggle with them and they are clearly a bad matchup. It would be a true road game instead of neutral. We want our team to win the BET and playing both SJU and Nova decreases the chances of that.
It's why I want no part of Florida State, Maryland and a few other teams in the early rounds of the NCAA.....long is our enemy it seems.
Quote from: Johnny B on February 15, 2019, 11:47:54 AM
What's up with people wanting st John's on the other side of the bracket? I say I hope we play them again. If we cant beat a bubble st John's 1 out of three times then we dont deserve to make a run in March. I mean come on.
St. John's isn't and won't really be a bubble team.
Quote from: MUeagle1090 on February 15, 2019, 11:50:01 AM
Because we struggle with them and they are clearly a bad matchup. It would be a true road game instead of neutral. We want our team to win the BET and playing both SJU and Nova decreases the chances of that.
Agree that St. John's in the Garden would essentially be another road game and present a big challenge, but don't necessarily buy that they are a bad matchup to the point we should be afraid of them. We missed numerous really good looks that just wouldn't go down against St. John's at FF. It happens. I'd feel differently if they were playing incredible D that we couldn't shake due to their length (some of Markus's misses on 2s could be attributable to that), but I don't believe that was the case. Sam and Joey in particular had a bunch of good looks, any one of which results in a W, and a few in a comfortable W.
I'm also in the camp that wouldn't mind a rematch with St. John's. I think we figured out how to beat them in the 2nd half of the last game but just ran out of time at the end. I think the third matchup would go a lot differently.
Now that doesn't mean that I disagree about them being a bad matchup. They are, but I think we that much better of a team that I expect us to overcome the bad matchup and win. It's nice having a team that you expect to win almost every night again
I don't care who Marquette plays in the BET. Then again, I don't really care that much about Marquette winning the BET.
Regular season and NCAA tournament are much more important to me. When Marquette is a lock to get an at large, losing in the conference tourney is "meh."
I've never seen Marquette win a conference tourney so it means quite a bit to me.
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on February 15, 2019, 02:18:05 PM
I don't care who Marquette plays in the BET. Then again, I don't really care that much about Marquette winning the BET.
Regular season and NCAA tournament are much more important to me. When Marquette is a lock to get an at large, losing in the conference tourney is "meh."
Yep. I am FAR more interested in making a deep run in the Dance. BET would be nice, and this team has the talent to make lots of noise in both, but I won't be crushed if we don't win the BET.
Rooting for The Johnnies. A quality win by them helps the Big East cause.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on February 15, 2019, 02:35:49 PM
Yep. I am FAR more interested in making a deep run in the Dance. BET would be nice, and this team has the talent to make lots of noise in both, but I won't be crushed if we don't win the BET.
People worried about being tired, but most of the teams that make the elite 8 did well in their conference tournaments. Every game you win in the conference tournament may lead to a higher seed. I also rather entered the tournament on high than a low. I am more worried about the NCAA tournament, because nobody on this team has won an NCAA game. I think that is a bigger factor than how many games we play in the Big East tournament.
Johnnies beat Nova this weekend, then MU beats Nova at Nova, and we have a one-game cushion to lose a regular season (non-Nova) game and still win the Big East.
Is Herron playing?
Quote from: bilsu on February 15, 2019, 04:11:29 PM
People worried about being tired, but most of the teams that make the elite 8 did well in their conference tournaments. Every game you win in the conference tournament may lead to a higher seed. I also rather entered the tournament on high than a low. I am more worried about the NCAA tournament, because nobody on this team has won an NCAA game. I think that is a bigger factor than how many games we play in the Big East tournament.
I'm not worried about the team being tired. I just don't get worked up about the BET because I don't think it will have any bearing on our NCAA performance. As for seeding, I really doubt we can move up to a 2, even with a BET win.
FWIW - our last Final Four appearance was preceded with a disheartening loss in the C-USA Tournament. Our last conference tournament title let to a one-and-done NCAA. I'm not saying fatigue was a factor - just saying I don't think there is any relationship between conference tournaments and the NCAA, unless you are on the bubble.
Quote from: MUeagle1090 on February 15, 2019, 11:50:01 AM
Because we struggle with them and they are clearly a bad matchup. It would be a true road game instead of neutral. We want our team to win the BET and playing both SJU and Nova decreases the chances of that.
SJU almost never plays well at MSG during the tourney or regular season..is it any wonder they ALWAYS play MU at that band box carnesecca??
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Isn't that the truth.
Quote from: muguru on February 15, 2019, 04:44:42 PM
SJU almost never plays well at MSG during the tourney or regular season..is it any wonder they ALWAYS play MU at that band box carnesecca??
Kinda interesting results too.
So far, they have played only two BE games at MSG and they are 0-2. They have played 4 BE games at Carnesecca and they are 3-1. And it is NOT because they schedule the best teams at MSG - their two losses are to GTown (5-7) and PC (4-8).
MSG might give them a little bit of a home-court advantage, but it sure doesn't seem to be much....
Quote from: GooooMarquette on February 15, 2019, 04:37:38 PM
I'm not worried about the team being tired. I just don't get worked up about the BET because I don't think it will have any bearing on our NCAA performance. As for seeding, I really doubt we can move up to a 2, even with a BET win.
FWIW - our last Final Four appearance was preceded with a disheartening loss in the C-USA Tournament. Our last conference tournament title let to a one-and-done NCAA. I'm not saying fatigue was a factor - just saying I don't think there is any relationship between conference tournaments and the NCAA, unless you are on the bubble.
This is where I'm at, too.
I'm guessing Virginia's players weren't sitting at their lockers after the UMBC loss saying, "Well, at least we won the ACC tournament."
If we win the BET, that would be cool. But if we don't, it really won't bother me. (There I go ... not being as "competitive" as guru again.) I will be more disappointed if we lose any of our regular-season games, and I will be 10x as disappointed if we lose in the NCAAs.
As for St. John's ... wouldn't mind playing them again at all.
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on February 15, 2019, 02:18:05 PM
I don't care who Marquette plays in the BET. Then again, I don't really care that much about Marquette winning the BET.
Regular season and NCAA tournament are much more important to me. When Marquette is a lock to get an at large, losing in the conference tourney is "meh."
I just want to win a game! We haven't played on Friday night since reconfiguration.
Quote from: robmufan on February 15, 2019, 09:54:28 AM
This is true. Even if St. Johns wins, and MU loses @Nova they will be ahead.
At this point...please just keep St. Johns on the other side of the BET bracket.
I mean...they'll have to beat someone other than us first. As long as they find draw Creighton first, we probably won't be playing them, whatever side is the bracket they are on.