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Title: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on December 18, 2018, 06:44:39 PM
Sooooo, which is more offensive, Fighting Sioux or fighting irish????

Let's give these fellas a good scalping tonight.  Good prep for skewering a couple of Buffaloes later this week.

Brandon for the early SOTG pick.

GO WARRIORS!!!!!

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=chat
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: Jay Bee on December 18, 2018, 06:53:41 PM
Beat the Sue!!

ICYMI - MU 10 game check in: http://latenighthoops.com/marquette-10-game-check-in/#.XBmWXxZMGEc
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on December 18, 2018, 07:11:10 PM
Just an hour early. I'm on Newsie time.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: CountryRoads on December 18, 2018, 07:19:02 PM
It seems a lot of cupcakes are hanging with majors tonight. It’s a tough night to play. Hope the guys are ready.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 18, 2018, 07:22:47 PM
I'm not looking ahead...but Buffalo is on ESPN2 right now.  They extend their defense really high. 
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on December 18, 2018, 08:03:44 PM
Come on Coley, stick a fork in them.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: Newsdreams on December 18, 2018, 08:04:18 PM
Just an hour early. I'm on Newsie time.
You in Atlantic time, hey?
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on December 18, 2018, 08:04:45 PM
You in Atlantic time, hey?

Seems like it.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 18, 2018, 08:10:17 PM
Missed the first five due to Providence taking their sweet a$$ time. Announcers said something about Howard getting banged up?
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: Jay Bee on December 18, 2018, 08:11:15 PM
Missed the first five due to Providence taking their sweet a$$ time. Announcers said something about Howard getting banged up?

nh? He got back on the court after that. Looks fine.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on December 18, 2018, 08:20:03 PM
Sloppy play so far. Better pick it up.

Markus back on the. Bench last oking for treatment.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: cheese ball chaser on December 18, 2018, 08:22:32 PM
9 turnovers. Woof.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: naginiF on December 18, 2018, 08:23:05 PM
nh? He got back on the court after that. Looks fine.
now you're just a weak bigot
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: skianth16 on December 18, 2018, 08:23:16 PM
Yikes, this is getting ugly. Gotta take care of the ball out there, guys. Ed, Chartouny, Sacar, Jamal - all got stripped or tied up way too easily in the last few minutes. They all just need to take a breath here and slow down during this timeout.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 18, 2018, 08:23:34 PM
11 goddamn turnovers in 11 min

No amount of time off makes that ok
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on December 18, 2018, 08:25:57 PM
Classic tooney with steal coughs up a dumb pass on the fastbreak and ND turns it into points
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: WarriorHal on December 18, 2018, 08:28:19 PM
Avoided the dreaded Dickie Simpkins until Dec. 18 this season. All good things eventually come to an end.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: wadesworld on December 18, 2018, 08:28:43 PM
Both teams appear to be on cocaine.

Trap game.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 18, 2018, 08:32:42 PM
On the bright side

When we are not turning it over


Pretty much scoring at will
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on December 18, 2018, 08:33:42 PM
Avoided the dreaded Dickie Simpkins until Dec. 18 this season. All good things eventually come to an end.


What is this referencing ?  Not aware of any blunder history ????
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on December 18, 2018, 08:34:22 PM
Markus certainly is settling down. And we’re finally playing like we should.  Should cover, hey?

Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: StillAWarrior on December 18, 2018, 08:34:48 PM
Man, those are some ugly uniforms.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on December 18, 2018, 08:36:21 PM
I think this is my first game with Dickey this year.

Really missed him.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: WarriorHal on December 18, 2018, 08:38:12 PM

What is this referencing ?  Not aware of any blunder history ????

Worst TV announcer, "analyst," in the history of college basketball. Just annoying as hell.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on December 18, 2018, 08:42:11 PM
Beverages of choice tonight?  Dragon's Milk for me.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on December 18, 2018, 08:43:04 PM
Beverages of choice tonight?  Dragon's Milk for me.

BCS 2017.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on December 18, 2018, 08:43:24 PM
Beverages of choice tonight?  Dragon's Milk for me.

Solid choice.

Sam Winter Lager and Breckinridge Christmas Ale.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: Milkshakes on December 18, 2018, 08:47:16 PM
Listening to the game. Meh.

Watching Syracuse v. Buffalo. Buffalo may loose tonight but they are for real. Experienced, tough, focused, resilient. Maybe not the greatest players but they are going to be a very real test.

Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: nyg on December 18, 2018, 08:49:34 PM
First 14 minutes, 12 turnovers.
Last 6 minutes, 1 turnover. 
But, 13 is way too much.  Can’t o this against Buffalo.

Theo had 2 fouls, 2 turnovers in three minutes.  Guy can’t stop fouling.  Six of last seven games he has had at least four fouls and just can’t stay on floor. 

Cain subbed for gimpy Markus for like one minute, had a turnover and then sat.  Usual story there.

ND is not real good and MU should destroy and yes, their uniforms are downright ugly.

Hope Markus only has a bruise. 
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: romey on December 18, 2018, 08:50:31 PM
What's up with Theo?  Just not the right matchup?
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on December 18, 2018, 08:50:40 PM
Beverages of choice tonight?  Dragon's Milk for me.

Best described with a picture, but Time Stans Still - Stan Lee tribute IPA. Excelsior! Hops: El Dorado, Enigma and Denali.

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Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on December 18, 2018, 08:51:15 PM
Looks like good Ol Sandy Cohen trash talking Marquette on the Score Mobile app. Lol.

Would take an awful lot of effort from someone else to have their account named that.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: romey on December 18, 2018, 08:51:26 PM
NM. there's my answer
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on December 18, 2018, 08:53:33 PM
Solid choice.

Sam Winter Lager and Breckinridge Christmas Ale.

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Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on December 18, 2018, 08:54:14 PM
Looks like good Ol Sandy Cohen trash talking Marquette on the Score Mobile app. Lol.

Would take an awful lot of effort from someone else to have their account named that.

Scoop doesn't have a mobile app???

But the game chat usernames are not authenticated, so don't trust anything there.

Edit: oh... score mobile. Nevermind.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on December 18, 2018, 08:55:55 PM
Scoop doesn't have a mobile app???

But the game chat usernames are not authenticated, so don't trust anything there.

I'm still curious about what app you're using though...

Score mobile....it’s a sports score app.

Definitely possible that’s it’s not him, but it defaults to your real name. The message board/chat things on there are not often used.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: Jay Bee on December 18, 2018, 08:56:44 PM
Score mobile....it’s a sports score app.

Definitely possible that’s it’s not him, but it defaults to your real name. The message board/chat things on there are not often used.

Interesting. You should ax him on another medium.. like his Twitter or something. His sis was a star here, so would be a little weird, but...
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: skianth16 on December 18, 2018, 08:57:08 PM
On the plus side, when we can hang on to the ball, this is about as good as our offense has looked this year.

I'm hoping Wojo can use the second half to test some lineups and give guys like Jamal and BB some run since this is our last cupcake of the year.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on December 18, 2018, 08:57:18 PM
Listening to the game. Meh.
Same.  Obviously I am a Tony Smith fan...so I really hope he grows into his radio role, because right now, yikes.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on December 18, 2018, 08:58:47 PM
Interesting. You should ax him on another medium.. like his Twitter or something. His sis was a star here, so would be a little weird, but...

Lol, don’t care that much to bust a college kids nuts on Twitter. Just thought it was funny.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on December 18, 2018, 08:59:47 PM
Bare Hands 574 dipa
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on December 18, 2018, 09:00:35 PM
Listening to the game. Meh.

Watching Syracuse v. Buffalo. Buffalo may loose tonight but they are for real. Experienced, tough, focused, resilient. Maybe not the greatest players but they are going to be a very real test.
Buff now +10 with < 2 minutes left
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on December 18, 2018, 09:04:22 PM
I love how the  big east tourney advertisement has literally zero footage of Marquette.  Must have gotten all their footage on friday and saturday nights, ayna?
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on December 18, 2018, 09:08:05 PM
Buffalo 71 - Syracuse 59 Final
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on December 18, 2018, 09:11:00 PM
Oklahoma 47 - Creighton 33 - Half
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: We R Final Four on December 18, 2018, 09:12:19 PM
Theo hurt
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: Not A Serious Person on December 18, 2018, 09:13:50 PM
has Cain played yet?
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: We R Final Four on December 18, 2018, 09:15:13 PM
1 minute or so. Turnover.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: T-Bone on December 18, 2018, 09:15:52 PM
has Cain played yet?
Yeah.  Scrambling madly in first half, had a turnover - but who didn't.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: Cheeks on December 18, 2018, 09:16:29 PM
Theo hurt

How badly?
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on December 18, 2018, 09:18:30 PM
How badly?

Gas cramps
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 18, 2018, 09:18:47 PM
Mmmmm, cupcakes
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: Not A Serious Person on December 18, 2018, 09:19:42 PM
Yeah.  Scrambling madly in first half, had a turnover - but who didn't.

The semester is over … so he is not transferring (at least not mid-season)
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: Oldgym on December 18, 2018, 09:21:15 PM
How badly?

He's fine. Just picked up his 3rd foul.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: forgetful on December 18, 2018, 09:21:22 PM
How badly?

He's back in.  Either a cramp or was kicked in the shin.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: nyg on December 18, 2018, 09:22:09 PM
He's back in.  Either a cramp or was kicked in the shin.

Back in and commits a foul in 5 seconds. 
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 18, 2018, 09:28:58 PM
We got cocky up 30

Time to get it going again
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on December 18, 2018, 09:37:13 PM
I’m liking Ed’s game tonight. Let’s hope he brings it Friday.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on December 18, 2018, 09:40:37 PM
Chartouney makes some of the nicest plays followed by some of the worstplays you will witness multiple times a game. 
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: jonny09 on December 18, 2018, 09:40:46 PM
Realistically. How far can we go with this ridiculous turnover rate?   20 vs. this squad of junk ballers?   Hoping Greg can come in and help that number.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 18, 2018, 09:44:50 PM
Realistically. How far can we go with this ridiculous turnover rate?   20 vs. this squad of junk ballers?   Hoping Greg can come in and help that number.

Winning by 30, complaining about turnovers that really don't matter. Never change scoop.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: forgetful on December 18, 2018, 09:47:15 PM
Winning by 30, complaining about turnovers that really don't matter. Never change scoop.

We're not even going to hit 100. Turnovers cost us triple digits.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on December 18, 2018, 09:47:45 PM
Realistically. How far can we go with this ridiculous turnover rate?   20 vs. this squad of junk ballers?   Hoping Greg can come in and help that number.

If we continue to play defense — we will have a decent season.  Makes up for a lot of sins on offense.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: jonny09 on December 18, 2018, 09:48:19 PM
Winning by 30, complaining about turnovers that really don't matter. Never change scoop.

I’m sure Wojo agrees. 
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 18, 2018, 09:48:34 PM
Did Dickie Simpkins just say Providence is the favorite to win the Big East? Good lord...
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: skianth16 on December 18, 2018, 09:50:03 PM
Winning by 30, complaining about turnovers that really don't matter. Never change scoop.

For this team, turnovers matter. They have the ability to be an achilles heel as we get into conference play. The whole point of these early season games is to improve on weaknesses, so the fact that we're still struggling to take care of the ball against a very clearly inferior opponent is worth noting.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: Jay Bee on December 18, 2018, 09:51:27 PM
Chartouney makes some of the nicest plays followed by some of the worstplays you will witness multiple times a game.

Ed as well. If those two get it together consistently, this season is MAGIC.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: jonny09 on December 18, 2018, 09:51:36 PM
For this team, turnovers matter. They have the ability to be an achilles heel as we get into conference play. The whole point of these early season games is to improve on weaknesses, so the fact that we're still struggling to take care of the ball against a very clearly inferior opponent is worth noting.














   




Ding ding ding
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: skianth16 on December 18, 2018, 09:58:24 PM
Realistically. How far can we go with this ridiculous turnover rate?   20 vs. this squad of junk ballers?   Hoping Greg can come in and help that number.

Scoop needs to temper its collective expectations for Greg. He's coming off a surgery and hasn't played a single minute. His practice has likely been pretty limited. And he's just a sophomore who had a solid but not spectacular freshman year playing the 2/3 and very little PG.

I don't see any strong reason to believe he'll be able to pick up solid minutes right out of the gate. If it has taken Ed and Joe this long to find their roles on this year's team, think about how hard it could be for Greg to do the same. He's got to be considered the 3rd option at least until mid-February at point unless there has been a very big change in his game over the summer that has yet to be mentioned.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 18, 2018, 10:15:35 PM
On the turnovers, obviously this was a bad turnover night. No reason to be giving the ball away 20 times in any game let alone one against North Dakota.

That being said, I do think there is some level of playing down to their opponent. Check out the numbers against high majors vs low majors

UMBC - 11
Bethune - 22
Presbyterian - 15
Charleston Southern - 19
UTEP - 15
North Dakota - 22
Avg: 17.3

Indiana - 14
Kansas - 13
Louisville - 9
Kansas State - 20
Wisconsin - 8
Avg: 12.8

You've got one outlier in each (UMBC & Kansas State) but our best TO games have come against high majors and our worst have come against low majors. I think its reasonable to believe that the team takes more risks against low major opponents when they know turnovers are unlikely to cost them. I think it's also reasonable to believe that they are trying new things and new rotations against low majors which may lead to more mistakes.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: Oldgym on December 18, 2018, 10:26:28 PM
This completely lucid analysis, supported by verifiable facts, has no place here.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: skianth16 on December 18, 2018, 10:36:56 PM
You've got one outlier in each (UMBC & Kansas State) but our best TO games have come against high majors and our worst have come against low majors. I think its reasonable to believe that the team takes more risks against low major opponents when they know turnovers are unlikely to cost them. I think it's also reasonable to believe that they are trying new things and new rotations against low majors which may lead to more mistakes.

Makes sense. I wonder if minute allocation plays a role in this too.
Title: Re: Fighting Sioux game thread
Post by: brewcity77 on December 18, 2018, 10:51:11 PM
Did Dickie Simpkins just say Providence is the favorite to win the Big East? Good lord...

In what sport?  :o