You don't really have to ask.
Who?
Unanimous without even a name.
Ummmmmmmmm
My pregame prediction was right.
Joey's D is the unsung hero today and huge credit to Wojo for the gameplan matching him up on Wade
Anyone but Marcus. The guy missed two free throws.
Sonoran Salsa
The Hausers were great on Wade.
45
Howard was incredible.
No doubt here. Also need to mention real team effort and Sacar's drives to the hoop.
Jamal Cain
D'OH
Who do you think!
It's Markus but Sacar getting to the hoop is what opened up the offense. It's what we've been missing
Howard obviously, but Sacar & Chartouny both played well.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 01, 2018, 04:25:51 PM
Howard obviously, but Sacar & Chartouny both played well.
No disagreement at all. On a day when Sammy couldn't get it going, those 3 plus some manly rim protection served us well.
Lelitio?
Matt gave us a few solid minutes, and no moving screens.
Quote from: MU82 on December 01, 2018, 04:46:40 PM
Matt gave us a few solid minutes, and no moving screens.
Matty played some damn good ball. He got toasted a couple times in the second half but nobody plays within himself better. And in a team plagued by turnovers, his presence on the floor can stabilize things sometimes.
Quote from: NickelDimer on December 01, 2018, 03:45:52 PM
Joey's D is the unsung hero today and huge credit to Wojo for the gameplan matching him up on Wade
Absolutely Right.
Did Markus play?
Does Sam have the flu? We didn't need his offense today, as Markus made KState's on ball defense look silly. But, we will need Steady Sam going forward.
Obviously Markus.
But Sacar was great. And Joey's D was great.
Quote from: Wojo's Whiteboard on December 01, 2018, 03:47:08 PM
Anyone but Marcus. The guy missed two free throws.
And the WIDE OPEN corner three in crunch time. He's losing it
Quote from: MUEng92 on December 01, 2018, 05:27:13 PM
And the WIDE OPEN corner three in crunch time. He's losing it
That one was too flippin' easy. I don't remember for sure but didn't we get the board?
Clearly, clearly Markus.
Great game by Sacar to be aggressive and pick up some slack on the scoring, but it's still not close to a 40+ pt performance
Quote from: jsglow on December 01, 2018, 05:30:01 PM
That one was too flippin' easy. I don't remember for sure but didn't we get the board?
I honestly don't remember. Too shocked he missed
Political statement. Shut it down!
Markus played an unbelievable game.
The jumping guy.
Markus
Coaching Staff
Anim
Heldt
Markus was kinda ok.
don't forget about the arby's post game meals only if they won, enn'a?
Quote from: jsglow on December 01, 2018, 04:56:17 PM
Matty played some damn good ball. He got toasted a couple times in the second half but nobody plays within himself better. And in a team plagued by turnovers, his presence on the floor can stabilize things sometimes.
I wasn't ranking on Heldt, glow. I was just trying to be hilarious.
We got a some valuable role play from several Warriors today.
Quote from: warriorstrack on December 01, 2018, 07:21:36 PM
And... Howard
My bad. I thought we were selecting second place. ;)
Quote from: NickelDimer on December 01, 2018, 03:45:52 PM
Joey's D is the unsung hero today and huge credit to Wojo for the gameplan matching him up on Wade
1000%
Good game for Sacar, but 45 pts... come on! Guy just can't catch a break.
Howard obviously.
Quote from: MU82 on December 01, 2018, 07:27:19 PM
I wasn't ranking on Heldt, glow. I was just trying to be hilarious.
We got a some valuable role play from several Warriors today.
I know. Your mentioning his contribution today was noteworthy.
Marcus, Sacar, Heldt. The game turned in our favor in a big when Matt was in Loved his play today!
At one point, Markus had nearly as many points as the entire Kansas St. team. Absolute stud today, even with 5 turnovers.
He didn't do a lot of scoring, but 5 assists in a game with that many whistles is no small feat (7 boards and solid D too). Chartouny starting to settle in.
I'd have given it to Sacar if he hit that dunk. I very inappropriately dropped to my knees at the Forum when he missed.
I feel like Greg is SOTG for his Beyonce jumbotron moment
Markus... Love Chartouny's game... coming along nicely... Sacar and Matt with a shout out!!!
Quote from: Its DJOver on December 01, 2018, 09:01:14 PM
He didn't do a lot of scoring, but 5 assists in a game with that many whistles is no small feat (7 boards and solid D too). Chartouny starting to settle in.
Good point. He usually settles things down when he gets into a game. Had a couple of awesome dishes, too.
Quote from: MU82 on December 01, 2018, 11:32:37 PM
Good point. He usually settles things down when he gets into a game. Had a couple of awesome dishes, too.
Chart led the team in rebounds and assists in 24 minutes. Great contribution.
After Marcus and Sacar I feel like Joey should be getting way more buzz here. The pregame was all about KState's D Wade being a matchup nightmare for us. I have never seen the guy play. I feel like I still haven't. He was a nonissue the entire game. I just checked the stats. He had 11 points and 3 rebounds. It sure didn't feel like he even had that much. Joey doesn't seem like the most athletic guy but he shut Wade down. For the future that is one of the most encouraging things about this game.
Quote from: Wojo's Whiteboard on December 02, 2018, 06:01:20 AM
After Marcus and Sacar I feel like Joey should be getting way more buzz here. The pregame was all about KState's D Wade being a matchup nightmare for us. I have never seen the guy play. I feel like I still haven't. He was a nonissue the entire game. I just checked the stats. He had 11 points and 3 rebounds. It sure didn't feel like he even had that much. Joey doesn't seem like the most athletic guy but he shut Wade down. For the future that is one of the most encouraging things about this game.
Joey played excellent defense on Wade. Not as good offensively. He is long and played solid position defense all game. Which brings it back around to the defense and how much improved MU's defense is. Rowsey was just plain bad. Having two sub 6 ft guards in a league full of 6'4 guards was a problem every single game. This year's team has length and depth and experience and toughness. Those things alone improve the defense. The defense seems to be altered a bit, playing more of a contain, because the team no longer has to try to pressure up high because they fear getting over powered inside.
The screen Joey set for Markus in the first few minutes when Markus hit the three with no time on the shot clock was such a smart play. I don't think many freshmen would have the awareness to do that in that situation
Quote from: tower912 on December 02, 2018, 07:15:09 AM
Joey played excellent defense on Wade. Not as good offensively. He is long and played solid position defense all game. Which brings it back around to the defense and how much improved MU's defense is. Rowsey was just plain bad. Having two sub 6 ft guards in a league full of 6'4 guards was a problem every single game. This year's team has length and depth and experience and toughness. Those things alone improve the defense. The defense seems to be altered a bit, playing more of a contain, because the team no longer has to try to pressure up high because they fear getting over powered inside.
Was interesting in the 1st half when Heldt came in after Theo and Ed were in foul trouble. The KSU bigs hung around outside after banging at Theo and Ed. Weber was apparently trying to draw Matt outside and open the lane, but Matt stayed in a one man zone underneath. KSU did not react well. Very noticeable to see the change in defense there. Give Wojo credit for that.
Quote from: Nukem2 on December 02, 2018, 09:05:58 AM
Was interesting in the 1st half when Heldt came in after Theo and Ed were in foul trouble. The KSU bigs hung around outside after banging at Theo and Ed. Weber was apparently trying to draw Matt outside and open the lane, but Matt stayed in a one man zone underneath. KSU did not react well. Very noticeable to see the change in defense there. Give Wojo credit for that.
And give Matt credit for knowing his role.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 02, 2018, 08:56:06 AM
The screen Joey set for Markus in the first few minutes when Markus hit the three with no time on the shot clock was such a smart play. I don't think many freshmen would have the awareness to do that in that situation
Yep. Joey, like his older brother, has a very high basketball IQ. Both of them do many of the little things that make a big difference.
Quote from: real chili 83 on December 02, 2018, 09:07:27 AM
And give Matt credit for knowing his role.
Yes. Good warm-up for Happ on Saturday.
Let's focus on not making UTEP another Bump for us.
Quote from: tower912 on December 02, 2018, 07:15:09 AM
Joey played excellent defense on Wade. Not as good offensively. He is long and played solid position defense all game. Which brings it back around to the defense and how much improved MU's defense is. Rowsey was just plain bad. Having two sub 6 ft guards in a league full of 6'4 guards was a problem every single game. This year's team has length and depth and experience and toughness. Those things alone improve the defense. The defense seems to be altered a bit, playing more of a contain, because the team no longer has to try to pressure up high because they fear getting over powered inside.
The defensive scheme and philosophy also are improved. We aren't pressuring out nearly as high as we'd been in past years. We are protecting the paint better. I wouldn't call it a pack line defense per se, but, we've reduced the amount of floor we are defending, and that combined with not playing Markus and Rowsey together has helped a ton - to your point.
Quote from: Slim on December 01, 2018, 11:42:45 PM
Chart led the team in rebounds and assists in 24 minutes. Great contribution.
It was fun to see his steal — defense creating offense. I think it's been since JJJ that we had someone with that threat.
Quote from: Loose Cannon on December 02, 2018, 10:24:55 AM
Let's focus on not making UTEP another Bump for us.
I'll do everything in my power to make sure Sam, Joey, JCS and Cam don't look past UTEP.
There. I've done it.
Kill F%cky.
Quote from: MU82 on December 02, 2018, 11:04:14 PM
I'll do everything in my power to make sure Sam, Joey, JCS and Cam don't look past UTEP.
There. I've done it.
Kill F%cky.
Thanks, I feel a little Better now.
Figured this is as good as any place to put this.
Early, but Markus currently #10 in Kenpom Player of the year standings.
(https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=57082.0;attach=7997;image)
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 04, 2018, 04:10:54 PM
Figured this is as good as any place to put this.
Early, but Markus currently #10 in Kenpom Player of the year standings.
Would be amazing to see Howard vs happ as finalists
Quote from: Galway Eagle on December 04, 2018, 04:11:45 PM
Would be amazing to see Howard vs happ as finalists
Also would be amazing to see Happ embarrassed this weekend. Oh...that's for the hate thread.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 04, 2018, 04:10:54 PM
Figured this is as good as any place to put this.
Early, but Markus currently #10 in Kenpom Player of the year standings.
(https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=57082.0;attach=7997;image)
would be interesting to see where all these guys were ranked during recruiting. with the exception of zion williamson, whom i'm sure was way up there, anyone have quick access to the others high school rankings? bol bol was highly regarded. gee, duke only has 2 in the top 10? ::)
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 04, 2018, 04:20:31 PM
would be interesting to see where all these guys were ranked during recruiting. with the exception of zion williamson, whom i'm sure was way up there, anyone have quick access to the others high school rankings? bol bol was highly regarded. gee, duke only has 2 in the top 10? ::)
Lawson was just outside the top 25, the Dukies and Bol were AA. Markus Howard was next then Carsen Edwards was toward the bottom of the top 100. Everyone else seems to have been a 3 star recruit
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 04, 2018, 04:20:31 PM
would be interesting to see where all these guys were ranked during recruiting. with the exception of zion williamson, whom i'm sure was way up there, anyone have quick access to the others high school rankings? bol bol was highly regarded. gee, duke only has 2 in the top 10? ::)
All per 247Composite
E Happ #152 (RSSR)
D Lawson #36 (RSJR)
Z Williamson #5 (FR)
G Williams #191 (JR)
R Barrett #1 (FR)
J Culver #312 (SO)
C Edwards #118 (JR)
B Bol #4 (FR)
L Stevens #98 (JR)
M Howard #68 (JR)
Not a strong senior class eh?
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 04, 2018, 05:25:16 PM
All per 247Composite
E Happ #152 (RSSR)
D Lawson #36 (RSJR)
Z Williamson #5 (FR)
G Williams #191 (JR)
R Barrett #1 (FR)
J Culver #312 (SO)
C Edwards #118 (JR)
B Bol #4 (FR)
L Stevens #98 (JR)
M Howard #68 (JR)
Not a strong senior class eh?
Wow, Texas Tech with an absurd class, Zhaire Smith a one & done ranked #194 out of HS, Culver #7 kenpom as a soph ranked #312. Either that or Chris Beard is a coaching savant (not ruling it out)