You can't:
want the reward 🏆
and not the struggle...
want the result 🥇
and not the process...
Your struggle determines the level of your success!
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Maybe we should all remember this.
Respect the process.
Wise man, that Coach Buzz Williams.
How about "Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity"?
Quote from: WarriorDad on November 22, 2018, 12:54:57 PM
You can't:
want the reward 🏆
and not the struggle...
want the result 🥇
and not the process...
Your struggle determines the level of your success!
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Maybe we should all remember this.
Yep. The old Buzzster getting it done at VT.
Quote from: 79Warrior on November 22, 2018, 01:26:27 PM
Yep. The old Buzzster getting it done at VT.
Yeah. Imagine what Scoop would be like had our head coach gotten us 0 NCAA Tournament wins in his first 4 years.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 22, 2018, 01:27:29 PM
Yeah. Imagine what Scoop would be like had our head coach gotten us 0 NCAA Tournament wins in his first 4 years.
They sure as hell player tougher than out guys do.
Quote from: 79Warrior on November 22, 2018, 01:32:33 PM
They sure as hell player tougher than out guys do.
To the tune of 0 NCAA Tournament wins. He's getting it done down there though.
Quote from: WarriorDad on November 22, 2018, 12:54:57 PM
You can't:
want the reward 🏆
and not the struggle...
want the result 🥇
and not the process...
Your struggle determines the level of your success!
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Maybe we should all remember this.
Buzz signs 4
https://247sports.com/college/virginia-tech/Article/Virginia-Tech-officially-signs-four-basketball-players-during-the-early-signing-period-Anthony-Harris-Emanuel-Miller-Yavuz-Gultekin-Andre-Gordon--125083508/
Quote from: 79Warrior on November 22, 2018, 01:32:33 PM
They sure as hell player tougher than out guys do.
So, results don't matter. Just toughness.
Or, at least, that's what your post implies
Quote from: Herman Cain on November 22, 2018, 01:35:00 PM
Buzz signs 4
https://247sports.com/college/virginia-tech/Article/Virginia-Tech-officially-signs-four-basketball-players-during-the-early-signing-period-Anthony-Harris-Emanuel-Miller-Yavuz-Gultekin-Andre-Gordon--125083508/
He'll be gone before those guys are Juniors. Bet.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 22, 2018, 01:27:29 PM
Yeah. Imagine what Scoop would be like had our head coach gotten us 0 NCAA Tournament wins in his first 4 years.
I don't remember Buzz having 0 NCAA wins in his first 4 years at MU. My bad.
VT must be very happy considering their history.
Message sent, MU must lower its expectations.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 22, 2018, 01:27:29 PM
Yeah. Imagine what Scoop would be like had our head coach gotten us 0 NCAA Tournament wins in his first 4 years.
Or imagine one of our high profile recruits not being able to play because the NCAA is hinting that one of our players cheated or got a score that doesn't smell right on the ACT, therefore needing to retake it.
That's happening at Virginia Tech basketball right now with Landers Nolly. Could be overreach by the NCAA, could be something does smell. More likely the NCAA wrong here, but no one knows at the moment. It seems MU administration said they don't want to with those types of things anymore, too much controversy that keeps sticking to a coach. That is their call to make, it is still a university athletic department. He is an amazing coach, but he does seem to find trouble at times that some administrations may feel not worth it. Va Tech is a football school, a perfect place for coach Williams.
Y'all Buzz is doing a fantastic job at VT. That's inarguable
These old duckers MU fans are the worst
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on November 22, 2018, 02:24:56 PM
Y'all Buzz is doing a fantastic job at VT. That's inarguable
His teams are fun to watch.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 22, 2018, 01:19:14 PM
Wise man, that Coach Buzz Williams.
How about "Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity"?
Mr Bernstein,
I cannot help but wonder how high the MU program would soar if Buzz, unshackled from the Scottie and Larry silliness, were still at the helm.
Pilarz had issues at Georgetown Prep; he was an unmitigated disaster at Marquette. I am stunned that he was given the lead role at any university after his inappropriate behavior issues. The Society of Jesus is desperate for clergy, I suppose...
I don't see the relevance of this tweet to our program
Quote from: theBabyDavid on November 22, 2018, 04:27:11 PM
Mr Bernstein,
I cannot help but wonder how high the MU program would soar if Buzz, unshackled from the Scottie and Larry silliness, were still at the helm.
Pilarz had issues at Georgetown Prep; he was an unmitigated disaster at Marquette. I am stunned that he was given the lead role at any university after his inappropriate behavior issues. The Society of Jesus is desperate for clergy, I suppose...
I'm fine with not having turned into what Izzo has going on behind the scenes at MSU. One time was one time too many.
Quote from: theBabyDavid on November 22, 2018, 04:27:11 PM
Mr Bernstein,
I cannot help but wonder how high the MU program would soar if Buzz, unshackled from the Scottie and Larry silliness, were still at the helm.
Pilarz had issues at Georgetown Prep; he was an unmitigated disaster at Marquette. I am stunned that he was given the lead role at any university after his inappropriate behavior issues. The Society of Jesus is desperate for clergy, I suppose...
A few prayers are in order for Pilarz
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/deaconsbench/2018/08/prayer-request-jesuit-president-of-university-of-scranton-reveals-he-has-als/
Quote from: wadesworld on November 22, 2018, 01:33:53 PM
To the tune of 0 NCAA Tournament wins. He's getting it done down there though.
At least he gets them there.
Quote from: 79Warrior on November 22, 2018, 06:35:13 PM
At least he gets them there.
So now we'll change arguments. Not really getting it done, as was stated, but getting to the Tournament...one time more than Wojo has. Given that he was able to take what he wanted from his MU recruiting class plus keep what he wanted from VT's recruiting class when he started that's probably fair since Wojo didn't have those luxuries coming into MU.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 22, 2018, 06:39:05 PM
So now we'll change arguments. Not really getting it done, as was stated, but getting to the Tournament...one time more than Wojo has. Given that he was able to take what he wanted from his MU recruiting class plus keep what he wanted from VT's recruiting class when he started that's probably fair since Wojo didn't have those luxuries coming into MU.
BS
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 22, 2018, 08:32:50 PM
BS
What is?
Oh yeah that's right. You're of the opinion that we've never made it to the NCAA Tournament under Wojo because we went 4-0 against teams that had injuries. So Buzz has gone to 2 more NCAA Tournaments at VT than Wojo has at MU.
Lol.
Fook Burt
Quote from: wadesworld on November 22, 2018, 08:37:01 PM
What is?
"Took what he wanted". LOL. Wanted Shayok and Hill. Got Hill, lost Shayok to Virginia. Took big man, low ranked, project Pierce because he needed a body. Wojo retained top 100 Sandy Cohen, 2nd highest rated recruit in the class.
Geez, everybody wanted Buzz gone because he recruited the wrong type of players, i.e., junior college folks. Not the traditional kid out of HS. That he didn't portray the type of coach to represent MU. Now everyone wishes him back. Pathetic.
Quote from: NCMUFan on November 22, 2018, 09:09:41 PM
Geez, everybody CHICOS wanted Buzz gone because he recruited the wrong type of players, i.e., junior college folks. Not the traditional kid out of HS. That he didn't portray the type of coach to represent MU. Now everyone wishes him back. Pathetic.
Fixed.
Perhaps some of the self-righteous and uber P.C. among our fanbase wanted Buzz gone, but that was a very small group as I recall.
Quote from: Floorslapper on November 22, 2018, 09:15:15 PM
Fixed.
Perhaps some of the self-righteous and uber P.C. among our fanbase wanted Buzz gone, but that was a very small group as I recall.
Does that guy secretly fund the program and pull all the strings?
If my memory is correct, didn't Coach Williams say the Big East was in trouble? Would not be as quality a conference as he wanted without football? Did he not also get in trouble with the administration for some bad publicity from some of his players, and separately his coaches violating some NCAA rules?
Are you the new Chicos character as you want Wojo gone? Do you have the same pull as him so it can happen?
Quote from: WarriorDad on November 22, 2018, 11:15:21 PM
Does that guy secretly fund the program and pull all the strings?
If my memory is correct, didn't Coach Williams say the Big East was in trouble? Would not be as quality a conference as he wanted without football? Did he not also get in trouble with the administration for some bad publicity from some of his players, and separately his coaches violating some NCAA rules?
Are you the new Chicos character as you want Wojo gone? Do you have the same pull as him so it can happen?
Cheekz, you're going to have a painfully busy winter defending Wojo—it seems you've already spent a lot of your Thanksgiving on here.
But I love you're still promising us a good Buzz scandal. In the meantime, he'll keep taking his #13 team in the country to the NCAAs and beating the best teams in the ACC along the way.
I think Chicos is going off his meds.
Like in the movie "A Beautiful Mind", but infinitely less intelligent.
All things being equal, I wish we didn't mess with happy.
Quote from: The Lens on November 23, 2018, 02:13:53 AM
All things being equal, I wish we didn't mess with happy.
I'm fairly confident Buzz can create a slight out of thin air. No amount of capitulation will keep him around at any job long term.
Are we really arguing about buzz doing good? Seriously this is as dumb as your roids argument.
The man took a school that gave zero shits about basketball, from the basement of the acc and made them competitive. He is doin a great job, there is no argument.
Quote from: #UnleashMatt on November 23, 2018, 08:41:39 AM
Are we really arguing about buzz doing good? Seriously this is as dumb as your roids argument.
The man took a school that gave zero craps about basketball, from the basement of the acc and made them competitive. He is doin a great job, there is no argument.
Well kind of. Va Tech had middling success under Seth Greenburg with a bunch of middle of the pack and NIT births just a few years before Buzz. It has always been a well funded athletic program.
He has done a very good job there.
Quote from: The Lens on November 23, 2018, 02:13:53 AM
All things being equal, I wish we didn't mess with happy.
As one of poster here whose opinion I value so eloquently said, he'd rather have Buzz as our coach, with his baggage, than Wojo. At least 10,000 students benefitted from the basketball program's success.
Quote from: The Lens on November 23, 2018, 02:13:53 AM
All things being equal, I wish we didn't mess with happy.
The problem is that sometimes happy needs to be messed with. And Buzz made some mistakes that required correction. In retrospect it was clearly an overreaction.
But let's not act like Buzz was a victim here. Don't fall for that act.
Quote from: Sultan of South Wayne on November 23, 2018, 09:13:53 AM
But let's not act like Buzz was a victim here. Don't fall for that act.
I don't know if we (fan base) are the victim —but we definitely have been impacted. Boy that whole thing was handled terribly.
Quote from: WarriorDad on November 22, 2018, 11:15:21 PM
If my memory is correct, didn't Coach Williams say the Big East was in trouble?
I think he said it wouldn't be the same (it isn't). We're in year 5 (takes 5 to judge, doncha know?) - will we look more like the A10 or the ACC this year?
BE dis season looks more like da Sun Belt Conf., hey?
Buzz was right on BE, just a few years early on his prediction
Lol. Jesus there are some chicken littles. How long have people been sitting on their hands waiting for the BE to be down for a single season just to say, "Buzz was right?!"
We're 6 months removed from 20% of our conference having been a 1 seed. But yeah, we're the A10 and the Sun Belt and Buzz nailed it, just got out before it turned into that.
Sheesh.
Quote from: Goose on November 23, 2018, 09:46:43 AM
Buzz was right on BE, just a few years early on his prediction
Seriously Goose... a handful of games into the first meh season after two national championships, and a couple more small runs from other teams and you're ready to say this is going to be a mid major league moving forward? I get you've always been a bit of a non believer in it but surely an intelligent and rational individual such as yourself must realise that that's a bit of an early conclusion.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 23, 2018, 09:41:01 AM
BE dis season looks more like da Sun Belt Conf., hey?
I believe we're .500 or so against power conferences so far maybe sit back, have a scotch and relax a bit.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on November 23, 2018, 09:50:53 AM
Seriously Goose... a handful of games into the first meh season after two national championships, and a couple more small runs from other teams and you're ready to say this is going to be a mid major league moving forward? I get you've always been a bit of a non believer in it but surely an intelligent and rational individual such as yourself must realise that that's a bit of an early conclusion.
Yep, I was a fan of Buzz but he was wrong about the Big East. Nonetheless, it's simply a fact that he's been doing more with less, at a worse program. It provides a sharp contrast between good coaching and below-average coaching.
Quote from: Babybluejeans on November 23, 2018, 09:55:17 AM
Yep, I was a fan of Buzz but he was wrong about the Big East. Nonetheless, it's simply a fact that he's been doing more with less, at a worse program. It provides a sharp contrast between good coaching and below-average coaching.
Not arguing that. But a handful of games into the BE season, during a year we as a conference expected to be down we're sitting 8-8 with the other power conferences.
Serious question Fo, and I haven't read all of your comments on various threads so maybe you've already addressed it. But, what's your make or break point, this season, as it relates to Wojo and his success or lack thereof. Or maybe you don't have one and feel he needs more time
Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 23, 2018, 10:03:43 AM
Serious question Fo, and I haven't read all of your comments on various threads so maybe you've already addressed it. But, what's your make or break point, this season, as it relates to Wojo and his success or lack thereof. Or maybe you don't have one and feel he needs more time
Not making the NCAA a tournament would be the break point.
Squeaking in as a 10 or worse seed would be a big cause for concern.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 23, 2018, 10:08:39 AM
Not making the NCAA a tournament would be the break point.
Squeaking in as a 10 or worse seed would be a big cause for concern.
Not making the NCAA is it for me.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 23, 2018, 10:03:43 AM
Serious question Fo, and I haven't read all of your comments on various threads so maybe you've already addressed it. But, what's your make or break point, this season, as it relates to Wojo and his success or lack thereof. Or maybe you don't have one and feel he needs more time
Needs to have winning record in conference .
Not making tournament he is on "secret double probation" pending next year result he gone
Wojo ain't it. 4 years and 5 games worth of eye test tells me this. His biggest weakness is coaching, motivating and getting his guys to believe and play better than the individual selves and sadly he obviously doesn't recognize this and hire a assistant that can help (that may actually be his largest weakness - inability to self access). Don't tell me about what a crappy situation he walked into.
Facts
1.) Buzz's teamd have preformed better
2.) Ben Howland's teams have performed better
3.) Shaka's teams have performed better
4.) Both Hurley boys teams have performed better
5.) Cuonzo Martin teams performed better.
We chose poorly.
Quote from: Goose on November 23, 2018, 09:46:43 AM
Buzz was right on BE, just a few years early on his prediction
Oh c'mon, you actually bought his BS?
Quote from: Charlotte Warrior on November 23, 2018, 11:37:38 AM
Wojo ain't it. 4 years and 5 games worth of eye test tells me this. His biggest weakness is coaching, motivating and getting his guys to believe and play better than the individual selves and sadly he obviously doesn't recognize this and hire a assistant that can help (that may actually be his largest weakness - inability to self access). Don't tell me about what a crappy situation he walked into.
Facts
1.) Buzz's teamd have preformed better
2.) Ben Howland's teams have performed better
3.) Shaka's teams have performed better
4.) Both Hurley boys teams have performed better
5.) Cuonzo Martin teams performed better.
We choose poorly.
Hindsight's 20/20
1) Buzz left on his own volition.
2) I was team Howland when we were hiring
3) Shaka rejected us
4) Dan Hurley was 60-62 at that point, Bobby Hurley was 19-10
5) Cuonzo had issues at California before bolting, it would've been no different at MU.
This whole idea that we chose Wojo out of those candidates is faulty logic. Maybe two of them would've been legit candidates at the time and one of those would've been out the door again
Ben Howland hasn't done much at Mississippi State either.
Quote from: Charlotte Warrior on November 23, 2018, 11:37:38 AM
Wojo ain't it. 4 years and 5 games worth of eye test tells me this. His biggest weakness is coaching, motivating and getting his guys to believe and play better than the individual selves and sadly he obviously doesn't recognize this and hire a assistant that can help (that may actually be his largest weakness - inability to self access). Don't tell me about what a crappy situation he walked into.
Facts
1.) Buzz's teamd have preformed better
2.) Ben Howland's teams have performed better
3.) Shaka's teams have performed better
4.) Both Hurley boys teams have performed better
5.) Cuonzo Martin teams performed better.
We choose poorly.
Shaka's first few years they performed better? Really?
Ben Howland, zero NCAA appearances in first three years of his new job. Went to NIT last year, did not go as far as Marquette. Had trouble at UCLA with kids and NCAA.
Cuonzo Martin is 3-2 this year, including two double digit losses to Iowa State and Kansas State. He stayed at Cal for three years and his last year at Cal was worse than his 2nd year. Everyone knew he was not long for Cal and would not be long for MU, which is one of the reasons we took a pass on him.
Bobby Hurley zero NCAA tournament wins, isn't that the knock on Wojo? His one NCAA appearance was a First Four where they were knocked out. His Pac 12 tournament results are 1-3. Two of his first three seasons were losing records.
Buzz zero NCAA tournament wins in 4 years. Isn't that one of the knocks on Wojo?
Quote from: Goose on November 23, 2018, 09:46:43 AM
Buzz was right on BE, just a few years early on his prediction
I would suggest strongly cheering for a different program. Marquette isn't going to start football, and thus the world is coming to an end for MU hoops then. No one will be happy. If Buzz is correct and you agree with him, why would any great coach come here?
They wouldn't. So buckle up and either get on board, or cheer for someone else, because according to you and Buzz, the BE is finished and can't do any better, and any coach worth a damn won't be here. Right?
Quote from: WarriorDad on November 23, 2018, 01:16:54 PM
I would suggest strongly cheering for a different program. Marquette isn't going to start football, and thus the world is coming to an end for MU hoops then. No one will be happy. If Buzz is correct and you agree with him, why would any great coach come here?
They wouldn't. So buckle up and either get on board, or cheer for someone else, because according to you and Buzz, the BE is finished and can't do any better, and any coach worth a damn won't be here. Right?
Well, in the last two years, two of the Big East's top coaches in Holtmann and Mack have departed for greener pastures. We need to hope like hell Wright doesn't bolt for the NBA, he's an icon for the conference right now and losing him would be very damaging. If guys like Cooley, Ewing, McDermott, and Mullin can build brands and Butler and Xavier stay solid despite the coaching changes, we'll be okay. If that doesn't happen, the conference will be in trouble. A lot's hanging in the balance these next 2-3 years.
Quote from: Research Report on November 23, 2018, 01:32:34 PM
Well, in the last two years, two of the Big East's top coaches in Holtmann and Mack have departed for greener pastures. We need to hope like hell Wright doesn't bolt for the NBA, he's an icon for the conference right now and losing him would be very damaging. If guys like Cooley, Ewing, McDermott, and Mullin can build brands and Butler and Xavier stay solid despite the coaching changes, we'll be okay. If that doesn't happen, the conference will be in trouble. A lot's hanging in the balance these next 2-3 years.
So what you're saying is if our good programs fall off and our bad programs don't rise and take their place the BE is in trouble?
This is the kind of analysis herman cain usually provides.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 23, 2018, 01:37:21 PM
So what you're saying is if our good programs fall off and our bad programs don't rise and take their place the BE is in trouble?
This is the kind of analysis herman cain usually provides.
Chicos sarcastically stated in his last post that "no coach worth a damn will want to be here." If he was referring to the Big East as a whole and not just Marquette, he might be right. Two of the conference's top coaches have left in the last two years and we look like a two bid league this year. But we don't have anything to worry about, because as you've said many times, "We got our guy."
Quote from: Research Report on November 23, 2018, 01:45:51 PM
Chicos sarcastically stated in his last post that "no coach worth a damn will want to be here." If he was referring to the Big East as a whole and not just Marquette, he might be right. Two of the conference's top coaches have left in the last two years and we look like a two bid league this year. But we don't have anything to worry about, because as you've said many times, "We got our guy."
Two bids? I'll take the over on that
Quote from: Research Report on November 23, 2018, 01:45:51 PM
Chicos sarcastically stated in his last post that "no coach worth a damn will want to be here." If he was referring to the Big East as a whole and not just Marquette, he might be right. Two of the conference's top coaches have left in the last two years and we look like a two bid league this year. But we don't have anything to worry about, because as you've said many times, "We got our guy."
I'll put a wager down on over/under being 2.5 bids for the BE. I'll take the over. Already have a bet with Lenny for 1 year self ban if Kansas (he's banned) or Duke (I'm banned) wins the title. You in for a year break from Scoop if the BE gets 3+ bids?
Quote from: wadesworld on November 23, 2018, 02:21:14 PM
I'll put a wager down on over/under being 2.5 bids for the BE. I'll take the over. Already have a bet with Lenny for 1 year self ban if Kansas (he's banned) or Duke (I'm banned) wins the title. You in for a year break from Scoop if the BE gets 3+ bids?
Why are your shrinking away from making a call on this year's MU team. Sweet 16 or not?
I'll take "no," and you can have "yes" that we make a Sweet 16 - loser takes a year off Scoop. However, this is an additional year beyond your bet with Lenny's.
You've been the biggest f'in loudmouth about how great Boy Wonder is and to respect the process. Surely you think by Year 5 at the helm he can lead us to a Sweet 16, right?
Quote from: wadesworld on November 23, 2018, 02:21:14 PM
I'll put a wager down on over/under being 2.5 bids for the BE. I'll take the over. Already have a bet with Lenny for 1 year self ban if Kansas (he's banned) or Duke (I'm banned) wins the title. You in for a year break from Scoop if the BE gets 3+ bids?
Hell no I'm not taking that bet. You'll want me around during baseball season, wades. I probably hate the Cubs more than you do.
Quote from: WarriorDad on November 23, 2018, 01:15:09 PM
Shaka's first few years they performed better? Really?
Ben Howland, zero NCAA appearances in first three years of his new job. Went to NIT last year, did not go as far as Marquette. Had trouble at UCLA with kids and NCAA.
Cuonzo Martin is 3-2 this year, including two double digit losses to Iowa State and Kansas State. He stayed at Cal for three years and his last year at Cal was worse than his 2nd year. Everyone knew he was not long for Cal and would not be long for MU, which is one of the reasons we took a pass on him.
Bobby Hurley zero NCAA tournament wins, isn't that the knock on Wojo? His one NCAA appearance was a First Four where they were knocked out. His Pac 12 tournament results are 1-3. Two of his first three seasons were losing records.
Buzz zero NCAA tournament wins in 4 years. Isn't that one of the knocks on Wojo?
My knock on Wojo is that the team continues to have the make the same fundamental errors in year 5 as in year 1. I see the players potential, but I don't see it with Wojo as coach. He doesn't know how to teach and he can't motivate. It's not going to change miraculously.
Quote from: Floorslapper on November 23, 2018, 02:28:05 PM
Why are your shrinking away from making a call on this year's MU team. Sweet 16 or not?
I'll take "no," and you can have "yes" that we make a Sweet 16 - loser takes a year off Scoop. However, this is an additional year beyond your bet with Lenny's.
You've been the biggest f'in loudmouth about how great Boy Wonder is and to respect the process. Surely you think by Year 5 at the helm he can lead us to a Sweet 16, right?
Since you apparently made a poll about simply making the NCAA Tournament this year (that nobody but you saw) I'll take that bet.
I wouldn't bet a year on Duke making the S16. And I think Duke is significantly better than Marquette.
Not to mention, we've seen how you and bannings play out. How many different screennames is this now?
Quote from: Charlotte Warrior on November 23, 2018, 02:52:20 PM
My knock on Wojo is that the team continues to have the make the same fundamental errors in year 5 as in year 1. I see the players potential, but I don't see it with Wojo as coach. He doesn't know how to teach and he can't motivate. It's not going to change miraculously.
That's part of college basketball. Players come and go. In Buzz's last year at Marquette, why were we making errors we shouldn't have? Because players come and go, this isn't the NBA.
34.5% of the minutes played on Wednesday night were by players that didn't wear a Marquette uniform last year. This is why you don't judge teams this early. Some come out needing to hit their stride, and do later. Others are ready to go at the start, and fade latter half of the season. The special teams go wire to wire.
Quote from: Research Report on November 23, 2018, 01:45:51 PM
Chicos sarcastically stated in his last post that "no coach worth a damn will want to be here." If he was referring to the Big East as a whole and not just Marquette, he might be right. Two of the conference's top coaches have left in the last two years and we look like a two bid league this year. But we don't have anything to worry about, because as you've said many times, "We got our guy."
If you are referring to me, then you have the wrong name.
Two bid league? The conference is ranked 5th right now. Minimum 3 bids, probably 4 to 5. We aren't even in December yet. Get a grip.
The level of despair from some of you is astounding.
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