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Title: Candidates for the job
Post by: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on November 21, 2018, 08:36:48 PM
Lets be honest.  Wojo is not going anywhere with this team.  Are there any good options on the horizon for his seat?   

Decent recruiter. Soft. Cant motivate his squad.  Cant make adjustments.  Its time for a change
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: goldeneagle91114 on November 21, 2018, 08:39:56 PM
#B3 Bring Back Brent
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: NCMUFan on November 21, 2018, 08:40:19 PM
Four games in and throwing in the towel, wow.  Disappointing loss but season so young and these guys want to play.  The season has barely started.  I predict a very good season still. 
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: T-Bone on November 21, 2018, 08:40:37 PM
I vote you.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: NickelDimer on November 21, 2018, 08:41:13 PM
I’ll play just for fun; my hope is Shaka is ousted and ends up at MU. Still think he’s the perfect fit
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: muhoops1 on November 21, 2018, 08:41:22 PM
The Grinch
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: wadesworld on November 21, 2018, 08:42:07 PM
Wojo.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: mubb3434 on November 21, 2018, 08:42:23 PM
We lost at Assembly Hall and to the #2 team in the country. We are at expectations for game results as I see it. Need to win Friday.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: Herman Cain on November 21, 2018, 08:42:58 PM
Stan is the man with a plan. 
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: goldeneagle91114 on November 21, 2018, 08:45:16 PM
We lost at Assembly Hall and to the #2 team in the country. We are at expectations for game results as I see it. Need to win Friday.

Glad our fan base is expecting Mediocrity! :)
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: Mutaman on November 21, 2018, 08:46:06 PM
Wojo's not going anywhere barring some kind of off-court incident. See McCarthy, Mike. Our only hope is he hires some assistant who can really coach, but no evidence of that happening.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: rocky_warrior on November 21, 2018, 08:48:18 PM
Need to win Friday.

That's true.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: tower912 on November 21, 2018, 08:49:19 PM
Wojo isn't going anywhere.  And any realistic candidate has flaws.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on November 21, 2018, 08:50:15 PM
Rumour has it its shaka!!!!!!!! Throwback
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: MUeng on November 21, 2018, 09:00:08 PM
Wojo's not going anywhere barring some kind of off-court incident. See McCarthy, Mike. Our only hope is he hires some assistant who can really coach, but no evidence of that happening.
wait, you don't think McCarthy is on the hot seat?  He hasn't done anything since winning the super bowl 8 years ago, thus wasting arguably the best quarterback ever.  His lack of coaching skills have been showcased pretty well this year.  Different situations in my mind.  With A-rodg, expectations are super bowl.  For Marquette, top 3 in BEAST is a great season.  I do agree that Wojo is staying for now, even if Loserville pounds us.  We miss the tourney, different story.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on November 21, 2018, 09:02:34 PM
Another missed ncaa bid and he should be out no questions.  Best roster hes gonna have in the forseeable future
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: wadesworld on November 21, 2018, 09:04:27 PM
Another missed ncaa bid and he should be out no questions.  Best roster hes gonna have in the forseeable future

Well next year he’ll have basically the same roster just a year older and add Koby, which is exactly what this roster needs. Plus Greg. So disagree.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: Mutaman on November 21, 2018, 09:09:13 PM
wait, you don't think McCarthy is on the hot seat?  He hasn't done anything since winning the super bowl 8 years ago, thus wasting arguably the best quarterback ever.  His lack of coaching skills have been showcased pretty well this year.  Different situations in my mind.  With A-rodg, expectations are super bowl.  For Marquette, top 3 in BEAST is a great season.  I do agree that Wojo is staying for now, even if Loserville pounds us.  We miss the tourney, different story.

13 years Dude. Wojo's got 8 more to go. Cheeseheads are very patient. I think you're missing my point.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: Mutaman on November 21, 2018, 09:10:00 PM
Rumour has it its shaka!!!!!!!! Throwback

DONE DEAL !!
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: Floorslapper on November 21, 2018, 09:16:17 PM
Well next year he’ll have basically the same roster just a year older and add Koby, which is exactly what this roster needs. Plus Greg. So disagree.

The standard rallying cry of the last 4-years for the Wojo fanboy club.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: fjm on November 21, 2018, 09:18:29 PM
Rick Pitino
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: tower912 on November 21, 2018, 09:18:44 PM
No one has actually mentioned a realistic candidate in this thread.   
Moser?
Wardle?
Stan?

I don't think it is an issue, but somebody actually name a realistic candidate that they would prefer.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: MUBurrow on November 21, 2018, 09:25:11 PM
No one has actually mentioned a realistic candidate in this thread.   
Moser?
Wardle?
Stan?

I don't think it is an issue, but somebody actually name a realistic candidate that they would prefer.

100% agree with the bolded, but if MU moved on from Wojo, its hiring Stan barring an offer from another candidate it can't refuse.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: wadesworld on November 21, 2018, 09:27:11 PM
The standard rallying cry of the last 4-years for the Wojo fanboy club.

Huh? I was responding to someone saying this is as good of a roster Wojo will have. It’s not.

You really struggle with comprehension.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: brewcity77 on November 21, 2018, 09:28:44 PM
No one has actually mentioned a realistic candidate in this thread.   
Moser?
Wardle?
Stan?

I don't think it is an issue, but somebody actually name a realistic candidate that they would prefer.

Luke Yaklich
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: HutchwasClutch on November 21, 2018, 09:28:52 PM
Moser- maybe. One magic season. Otherwise very modest success

Wardle- no

Stan J- no way
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: brewcity77 on November 21, 2018, 09:30:11 PM
Wardle & Otzelberger would also be on my list.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: HutchwasClutch on November 21, 2018, 09:31:16 PM
We lost at Assembly Hall and to the #2 team in the country. We are at expectations for game results as I see it. Need to win Friday.

Boy, really sanitized that!  No, we got two a$$ kickings. One against very young and undermanned IU team

But we did have a stirring 2nd half comeback against Presbyterian. Yay MU
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: Earl Tatum on November 21, 2018, 09:42:49 PM
Once a big Wojo backer. Enough of this. Tell go to Back to Duke. This
freakin' sucks. We are nothing but a high mid-major. Losing ground.
22-0 and 9 straight possession and no offensive rebounds to start the
2nd half. As was said--Marquette was not ready to play in the 2nd half.
GO BADGERS. I'm sick and tired of living MU Blue and Gold. I can see
why nobody with an elite background wants to play here.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: rocky_warrior on November 21, 2018, 09:45:40 PM
GO BADGERS.

As we all expected.  Happy thanksgiving Earl.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: Earl Tatum on November 21, 2018, 09:48:47 PM
I think Stan would make a good coach.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: HutchwasClutch on November 21, 2018, 09:59:05 PM
I think Stan would make a good coach.

Based on what? Because of the wild success they’ve had since he came aboard?

Maybe he was the major force  behind that brilliant second half Presbyterian comeback
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: wadesworld on November 21, 2018, 09:59:33 PM
I can see
why nobody with an elite background wants to play here.

How many State titles between the 2 Hausers again?
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: Herman Cain on November 21, 2018, 10:22:42 PM
Rick Pitino
He would take the job if offered.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: brewcity77 on November 21, 2018, 10:26:15 PM
Wardle coming off upsets of SMU and Penn State in Cancun. Don't be surprised if they are in the running for the Horizon title.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 21, 2018, 10:30:27 PM
Wardle coming off upsets of SMU and Penn State in Cancun. Don't be surprised if they are in the running for the Horizon title.

I would be VERY surprised if they were in the running for the Horizon title.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: whitykj on November 21, 2018, 10:33:15 PM
This thread is way premature, miss the tournament and then I think we can all agree to start this discussion
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: LAZER on November 21, 2018, 10:40:04 PM
Wojo isn't going anywhere.  And any realistic candidate has flaws.
What’s Musselman’s deal?
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: HutchwasClutch on November 21, 2018, 10:41:27 PM
What’s Musselman’s deal?

Good one
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: HutchwasClutch on November 21, 2018, 10:43:00 PM
I would be VERY surprised if they were in the running for the Horizon title.

 That will be a tough sled while  in MVC
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: Lennys Tap on November 21, 2018, 10:43:41 PM
Our only hope is he hires some assistant who can really coach, but no evidence of that happening.

Maybe coaching experience/ability should be the criterion for the job. Being a Duke buddy or a solid player in the lunchtime league isn't working.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: HutchwasClutch on November 21, 2018, 10:47:37 PM
This thread is way premature, miss the tournament and then I think we can all agree to start this discussion

Year 5 is premature. One NCAA appearance and a beat down there. Ok, sure
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: LAZER on November 21, 2018, 10:48:46 PM
Good one
Are you saying that MU would have no shot at him?
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: HutchwasClutch on November 21, 2018, 10:50:43 PM
Are you saying that MU would have no shot at him?

No, I was agreeing I’d be in favor of pursuing Musselman. Name I hadn’t thought of
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: MUfan12 on November 21, 2018, 10:54:52 PM
Seth Greenberg. He'll continue the legacy of being a bubble team every year.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: 🏀 on November 21, 2018, 10:55:56 PM
Oliver Purnell deserves a look.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 21, 2018, 10:58:35 PM
That will be a tough sled while  in MVC

It's not funny when you explain the joke.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: HutchwasClutch on November 21, 2018, 11:10:22 PM
It's not funny when you explain the joke.

I was just having a little fun with what you said.  Nothing more
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: MUDPT on November 22, 2018, 04:18:54 AM
Gotta go Big East and bring Wade back. I’m sure he will love being back in Milwaukee for the winter.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: Class71 on November 22, 2018, 04:52:59 AM
Is this the time to begin worrying that Wojo is replacing coach K next year?
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: muballbuster on November 22, 2018, 07:51:05 AM
Archie Miller "It's Marquette, It's Marquette"
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on November 22, 2018, 09:13:05 AM
I think once Greg comes back we'll hit our stride in conference season, and all of this will be moot.

However, if that does't happen, the top of my list would be Nate Oats at Buffalo. Plays a tough-minded Buzz-esque style and he's from Wisconsin.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: theBabyDavid on November 22, 2018, 04:29:04 PM
Wardle

No
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: Big Papi on November 22, 2018, 05:35:38 PM
Wojo is not going anywhere but I don't know why he never hired a seasoned veteran assistant coach.  Buzz did it and grew as a coach. 
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: Big Papi on November 22, 2018, 05:38:22 PM
I think once Greg comes back we'll hit our stride in conference season, and all of this will be moot.

However, if that does't happen, the top of my list would be Nate Oats at Buffalo. Plays a tough-minded Buzz-esque style and he's from Wisconsin.

A successful wisconsinite.  That sounds intriguing.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: Nukem2 on November 22, 2018, 05:39:37 PM
Wojo is not going anywhere but I don't know why he never hired a seasoned veteran assistant coach.  Buzz did it and grew as a coach.
Wojo had Mark Phelps for the first year or two and has had Rob Judson on staff this year and last year.   Both seasoned HCs.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: TedBaxter on November 22, 2018, 07:10:30 PM
I think Stan would make a good coach.

Aristotle? King of the philosophers on Twitter?  The guy who has missed out on his last 3 fall recruiting targets (Tillman, Grimes, Mannion)? Never been a head coach? Pass.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: curbina on November 22, 2018, 07:11:25 PM
Micah Shrewsberry
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: Floorslapper on November 22, 2018, 08:59:13 PM
Aristotle? King of the philosophers on Twitter?  The guy who has missed out on his last 3 fall recruiting targets (Tillman, Grimes, Mannion)? Never been a head coach? Pass.

Wojo took lead on Tillman.  Getting in Final 3/2 of Grimes and Mannion a major accomplishment by Stan - considering Wojo has yet to prove he can win.

You can thank Stan for:  Markus, Koby, Bailey, Greg, Jamal, Sacar, Theo.  Stan's gotten it done on the recruiting trail.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: BM1090 on November 22, 2018, 09:35:57 PM
Wojo took lead on Tillman.  Getting in Final 3/2 of Grimes and Mannion a major accomplishment by Stan - considering Wojo has yet to prove he can win.

You can thank Stan for:  Markus, Koby, Bailey, Greg, Jamal, Sacar, Theo.  Stan's gotten it done on the recruiting trail.

Definitely the first 3. Dont think Stan worked nearly as much on the latter 5. Wojo worked Michigan himself (Elliott, Cain, Tillman). He also worked on MN for Sacar and Theo.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: dgies9156 on November 22, 2018, 10:22:30 PM
Wojo took lead on Tillman.  Getting in Final 3/2 of Grimes and Mannion a major accomplishment by Stan - considering Wojo has yet to prove he can win.

You can thank Stan for:  Markus, Koby, Bailey, Greg, Jamal, Sacar, Theo.  Stan's gotten it done on the recruiting trail.

You will not land a Grimes and a Mannion until you can prove you can run with the Big Dogs.

This past week has proven why Grimes and Mannion went elsewhere. We're not the big dog -- at least not yet. If we want these types of players, we're going to have to prove we can win big games. When we do, call me. We've won exactly one since Wojo came here -- Villanova two years ago.

Pardon me for being cynical, but winning begets winners.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: Freeport Warrior on November 22, 2018, 11:12:19 PM
Wardle & Otzelberger would also be on my list.
If he's replaced at the end of this year, it will be Otz. They've been slowly moving on this for the last 18 months as a fallback.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: WarriorDad on November 22, 2018, 11:16:41 PM
Lets be honest.  Wojo is not going anywhere with this team.  Are there any good options on the horizon for his seat?   

Decent recruiter. Soft. Cant motivate his squad.  Cant make adjustments.  Its time for a change

John Glazer for coach
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on November 22, 2018, 11:23:44 PM
Wojo took lead on Tillman.  Getting in Final 3/2 of Grimes and Mannion a major accomplishment by Stan - considering Wojo has yet to prove he can win.

You can thank Stan for:  Markus, Koby, Bailey, Greg, Jamal, Sacar, Theo.  Stan's gotten it done on the recruiting trail.

Great job by Stan recruiting Sacar to Marquette, even though Stan wasn't even on the staff at the time!
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: WarriorDad on November 22, 2018, 11:28:06 PM
Wojo took lead on Tillman.  Getting in Final 3/2 of Grimes and Mannion a major accomplishment by Stan - considering Wojo has yet to prove he can win.

You can thank Stan for:  Markus, Koby, Bailey, Greg, Jamal, Sacar, Theo.  Stan's gotten it done on the recruiting trail.

Sacar wasn't recruited by Stan, because he wasn't on the staff yet.  You may want to read up on some of the players who discuss Wojo's influence in recruiting them and ultimately committing.  It's a team recruiting approach, not a Wojo only, not Stan only. 
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: Silent Verbal on November 23, 2018, 07:29:30 AM
If he's replaced at the end of this year, it will be Otz. They've been slowly moving on this for the last 18 months as a fallback.

I hope this is true.  Otz is everything Wojo wasn’t as a candidate.  He’s recruited at a couple different schools under a few different coaches (Hoiberg, McDermott, and Romar) and has chosen to get his feet wet at a mid major to develop his coaching chops and show what he can do when he runs a program.  I’d be excited if he was our coach, I think he’ll be a star.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on November 23, 2018, 10:10:27 AM
I hope this is true.  Otz is everything Wojo wasn’t as a candidate.  He’s recruited at a couple different schools under a few different coaches (Hoiberg, McDermott, and Romar) and has chosen to get his feet wet at a mid major to develop his coaching chops and show what he can do when he runs a program.  I’d be excited if he was our coach, I think he’ll be a star.

Was he the one who had the pipeline from MU to ISU? Christopherson, Burton, McKay?
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: alexius23 on November 23, 2018, 10:22:26 AM
Just a bit premature
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: HutchwasClutch on November 23, 2018, 11:59:46 AM
I hope this is true.  Otz is everything Wojo wasn’t as a candidate.  He’s recruited at a couple different schools under a few different coaches (Hoiberg, McDermott, and Romar) and has chosen to get his feet wet at a mid major to develop his coaching chops and show what he can do when he runs a program.  I’d be excited if he was our coach, I think he’ll be a star.

Agree Otzelberger has background of top assistant at a good program and then success in short time of taking over his own program.  He seems clearly ready for a move up.  We'll need to move quick if we want him though, he'll get plucked out of SD St. very soon, probably after this year I bet.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: GGGG on November 23, 2018, 12:11:58 PM
Agree Otzelberger has background of top assistant at a good program and then success in short time of taking over his own program.  He seems clearly ready for a move up.  We'll need to move quick if we want him though, he'll get plucked out of SD St. very soon, probably after this year I bet.



Milwaukee native.  Went to Thomas More.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: WarriorDad on November 23, 2018, 01:24:47 PM
Agree Otzelberger has background of top assistant at a good program and then success in short time of taking over his own program.  He seems clearly ready for a move up.  We'll need to move quick if we want him though, he'll get plucked out of SD St. very soon, probably after this year I bet.

Agree on his future (Otz), as much as anyone can project these things.  Don't think it will be necessary, however.

The people wanting Stan?  How often does a head coach get canned and the assistant steps in permanently at the college level?  Interim ok, but permanent?  Especially if the head coach isn't being removed for something nefarious?
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: muwarrior69 on November 23, 2018, 02:01:51 PM
Let's steal Mark Few!
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: cheebs09 on November 23, 2018, 02:10:40 PM

Milwaukee native.  Went to Thomas More.

Also, I believe he was set up for the Milwaukee job until they switched course and hired Lavall Jordan.
Title: Re: Candidates for the job
Post by: 4everwarriors on November 23, 2018, 04:20:48 PM

Milwaukee native.  Went to Thomas More.


Wood bee kinda like Craig Counsell, hey?