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Title: Kansas game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on November 21, 2018, 05:46:05 PM
Need Joe C to set the table tonight so we can dine on Jayhawk livers.  What the h3ll is a Jayhawk anyways.  We're gonna need extra Sonoran Salsa for this one.

Joey for SOTG! 

GO WARRIORS!!!!!!

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Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 21, 2018, 06:02:36 PM
Just arrived. Lots of crimson and blue. Very little gold. Gonna feel like a road game
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on November 21, 2018, 06:05:36 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on November 21, 2018, 06:02:36 PM
Just arrived. Lots of crimson and blue. Very little gold. Gonna feel like a road game

But we got you.  Secret weapon.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 21, 2018, 06:07:47 PM
Not many Volunteers or Cardinals either
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: DJO's Jaw on November 21, 2018, 06:09:18 PM
Well according to the mubb twitter account, Joe C isn't starting. It's Markus, Jamal, Sam, Joey, and Theo. So there's that...
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: nyg on November 21, 2018, 06:21:33 PM
Let's hope Theo doesn't pick up two fouls in first four minutes.  Three game streak going on for him.

Surprised no Joe C after second half performance last game, very interesting.  Kansas going to press/double Markus big time to start. 
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on November 21, 2018, 06:24:04 PM
Hmmmm
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on November 21, 2018, 06:24:15 PM
Lets hope this start isnt like Indiana.  Hope Markus learned how to dribble a basketball in the last 4 days.
Unfortunately, i have visions of Heinrich and Collison on runouts as a completely unprepared Crean shits himself
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on November 21, 2018, 06:26:22 PM
6:34 tip time
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: WarriorFan on November 21, 2018, 06:27:17 PM
Just watched #3 Gonzaga beat #1 Duke and have to say that I don't like our chances against #2 Kansas if they are anywhere near as good as those two teams.  The athleticism, teamwork, and testicular fortitude were way beyond where we're at.  Sorry for the buzz kill.  I hope someday we can be up with these guys.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: MUEng92 on November 21, 2018, 06:32:24 PM
I wish I had even a hint of confidence in the possibility of MU beating Kansas. But I was a Packer fan and Cubs fan starting in the late 70's so it's just not in me.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Floorslapper on November 21, 2018, 06:34:41 PM
Quote from: nyg on November 21, 2018, 06:21:33 PM
Let's hope Theo doesn't pick up two fouls in first four minutes.  Three game streak going on for him.

Surprised no Joe C after second half performance last game, very interesting.  Kansas going to press/double Markus big time to start.

Surprising, yet not surprising.  We've seen this same head scratching approach from Wojo before where he is given a roadmap on what formula works best, yet then doesn't implement it in the immediate aftermath.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: forgetful on November 21, 2018, 06:36:10 PM
Good start for Howard.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: GooooMarquette on November 21, 2018, 06:36:10 PM
We got this.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: jesmu84 on November 21, 2018, 06:38:49 PM
Um. No hook on Lawson?
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: jesmu84 on November 21, 2018, 06:39:13 PM
Fouls no good
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: jesmu84 on November 21, 2018, 06:39:34 PM
On my phone. Anyone got the chat link?
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: nyg on November 21, 2018, 06:39:53 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on November 21, 2018, 06:39:13 PM
Fouls no good

Just the start.  Joey sitting gonna hurt.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: MUEng92 on November 21, 2018, 06:40:04 PM
How many scholarship players do we have on the bench?
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: forgetful on November 21, 2018, 06:40:22 PM
Flops and weak calls so far.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: DJO's Jaw on November 21, 2018, 06:40:37 PM
So these foul calls seem poor...
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: seakm4 on November 21, 2018, 06:41:45 PM
They're hooking the post players every time
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: forgetful on November 21, 2018, 06:41:51 PM
6 fouls against us in 3.5 min.  I think only one of them was a legit foul.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: AlienWarrior on November 21, 2018, 06:42:55 PM
I was hoping we could save a fowl for tomorrow
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: NickelDimer on November 21, 2018, 06:43:17 PM
Easy to see who the refs are pulling for
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: GooooMarquette on November 21, 2018, 06:44:53 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on November 21, 2018, 06:38:49 PM
Um. No hook on Lawson?

Awful call.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: jesmu84 on November 21, 2018, 06:45:22 PM
Jamal called for a push off with his arm on offense.

Officials seemingly ignoring what the Kansas players are doing with their arms while on offense.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: jesmu84 on November 21, 2018, 06:48:04 PM
Wtf was that Markus?
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: MUEng92 on November 21, 2018, 06:48:43 PM
An unforced MU turnover will lead to my demise at some point in my life...by definition the end point of my life
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: jesmu84 on November 21, 2018, 06:49:08 PM
Morrow looks lost on offense. Completely
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: forgetful on November 21, 2018, 06:49:17 PM
We really need a guy that can break down a defense on the bounce.  Defenses are able to push us out past 35 ft, and stick with them.  Making it very hard on the offense.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: jesmu84 on November 21, 2018, 06:49:39 PM
Fouls. Turnovers. Made 3s against.

Brutal
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: MUEng92 on November 21, 2018, 06:50:43 PM
The hottest a player has been at Kansas and we leave him wide open multiple times
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: forgetful on November 21, 2018, 06:51:51 PM
No way that was a foul on Heldt.  If that's a foul on Heldt, then Howard was fouled too.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Tha Hound on November 21, 2018, 06:52:43 PM
I am not one to usually complain about the refs, but the calls so far have been atrocious.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: MUEng92 on November 21, 2018, 06:53:02 PM
Good lord how could that be called a foul on Heldt? No part of his body made contact
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: willie warrior on November 21, 2018, 06:53:06 PM
No way was that a foul on Heldt. Kansas must have brought their own refs for the game.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Floorslapper on November 21, 2018, 06:53:15 PM
Well...much better start than Indiana game.  Defense generally been pretty good.  We at least look like be can be on the same floor as Kansas.  Fouls evening out.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: MUeng on November 21, 2018, 06:53:51 PM
3s are falling which is obviously a good sign.  Vick and Azubuike are unstoppable.  keep this thing within 15 and I'll call it a win!
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on November 21, 2018, 06:54:04 PM
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=chat
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Tha Hound on November 21, 2018, 06:54:17 PM
Quote from: MUeng on November 21, 2018, 06:53:51 PM
3s are falling which is obviously a good sign.  Vick and Azubuike are unstoppable.  keep this thing within 15 and I'll call it a win!

Loser mentality.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on November 21, 2018, 06:54:34 PM
THE TERROR in the house
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Da 'Lanche on November 21, 2018, 06:55:45 PM
We are right there...hurts that Joey sits with fouls in the first minutes.  Howard looks good...keep shooting..that is not hero ball it is your best shooter shooting against a bad 3 point fog defense.

Self must think this is the Phog where he gets every call or cries like a jay-bitch
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on November 21, 2018, 06:57:10 PM
Gonna need Heldt tonight.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: GooooMarquette on November 21, 2018, 06:58:43 PM
Nice D by Matty!
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on November 21, 2018, 06:59:15 PM
Grimes with a 3-brick off the backboard!
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: jesmu84 on November 21, 2018, 06:59:43 PM
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on November 21, 2018, 06:54:04 PM
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=chat

Thanks.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: forgetful on November 21, 2018, 06:59:50 PM
So, we got the real raw end of the deal early on.  But they are calling it tight.  2 on Theo, 2 on Azubuike. I'll take that trade, we have more depth at that position and Azubuike is a beast.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Da 'Lanche on November 21, 2018, 07:00:17 PM
Ball movement looks good...that is a key against KU.   Perimeter defense has been an issue for them...
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: GooooMarquette on November 21, 2018, 07:00:35 PM
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on November 21, 2018, 06:59:15 PM
Grimes with a 3-brick off the backboard!

Glad he didn't shatter it....
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: MUeng on November 21, 2018, 07:00:39 PM
really impressed with Heldt tonight.  he wants it
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: NickelDimer on November 21, 2018, 07:00:39 PM
This D is playing better than any D has under Wojo
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on November 21, 2018, 07:01:16 PM
Markus can get those shots later in the clock.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on November 21, 2018, 07:02:53 PM
Thank god heldt is playing instead of morrow!!
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: MUEng92 on November 21, 2018, 07:04:28 PM
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on November 21, 2018, 07:02:53 PM
Thank god heldt is playing instead of morrow!!
Things we didn't expect to read this season for $100...
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: willie warrior on November 21, 2018, 07:04:32 PM
Guess our offense is to have Howard and Sam launch 3's while everybody else watches. Wojo has to get other players involved and get a post game to John going.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on November 21, 2018, 07:05:23 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on November 21, 2018, 07:04:32 PM
Guess our offense is to have Howard and Sam launch 3's while everybody else watches. Wojo has to get other players involved and get a post game to John going.

Unreal.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on November 21, 2018, 07:07:59 PM
Morrow is to defense at the 5 like andrew rousey was at the 1
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on November 21, 2018, 07:11:04 PM
Good move by wojo a fwe minutes back to put jamal on vick, his length has made it harder for him
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Its DJOver on November 21, 2018, 07:13:27 PM
Brendan staying glued to Vick even if it gives up a wide open three.  High IQ play, know who you're defending.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: brewcity77 on November 21, 2018, 07:14:13 PM
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on November 21, 2018, 07:11:04 PM
Good move by wojo a fwe minutes back to put jamal on vick, his length has made it harder for him

Agreed. Jamal has been great tonight. His line may not look impressive, but he's been excellent.

A bit concerning that everyone else over 6'7" has two fouls.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Da 'Lanche on November 21, 2018, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on November 21, 2018, 07:11:04 PM
Good move by wojo a fwe minutes back to put jamal on vick, his length has made it harder for him

I think Wojo has coached his arse off in the first half...let's see if he can match Self who is known for making great half time adjustments
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: wheresthecake? on November 21, 2018, 07:15:07 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on November 21, 2018, 07:04:32 PM
Guess our offense is to have Howard and Sam launch 3's while everybody else watches. Wojo has to get other players involved and get a post game to John going.
Why?
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Tha Hound on November 21, 2018, 07:15:48 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on November 21, 2018, 07:04:32 PM
Guess our offense is to have Howard and Sam launch 3's while everybody else watches. Wojo has to get other players involved and get a post game to John going.

Instant ignore.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: KfBob on November 21, 2018, 07:16:04 PM
Quote from: Its DJOver on November 21, 2018, 07:13:27 PM
Brendan staying glued to Vick even if it gives up a wide open three.  High IQ play, know who you're defending.
. Vick has blown by bailey 3 time in about 4 minutes of play.  No lateral quickness.  On the positive bailey crashed the board for a tip in.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on November 21, 2018, 07:16:23 PM
Quote from: Its DJOver on November 21, 2018, 07:13:27 PM
Brendan staying glued to Vick even if it gives up a wide open three.  High IQ play, know who you're defending.
Yes sacar got lit up by vick.  Then wojo went to jamal, subbed jamal with bailey, back to jamal n now back to bailey.  Their length and ability to stay in front has shut him down.  If he hadnt scored 8 in about 30 seconds MU would benrolling rn
Only problem with this offense is it is 100% reliant on 3 point shooting
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: MUBigDance on November 21, 2018, 07:16:34 PM
Kansas may come back. But they have shown me something.

Still we need to be a finishing team. Do this!
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on November 21, 2018, 07:17:59 PM
TERROR for SOTG
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on November 21, 2018, 07:18:45 PM
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on November 21, 2018, 07:16:23 PM
Yes sacar got lit up by vick.  Then wojo went to jamal, subbed jamal with bailey, back to jamal n now back to bailey.  Their length and ability to stay in front has shut him down.  If he hadnt scored 8 in about 30 seconds MU would benrolling rn
Only problem with this offense is it is 100% reliant on 3 point shooting

That's also a weakness of Kansas.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on November 21, 2018, 07:23:09 PM
Who would have thunk
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Tha Hound on November 21, 2018, 07:24:03 PM
We are abusing them on the pick and roll dish for a three. Feels so much better when it's not against us. Keep running it all night.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on November 21, 2018, 07:24:43 PM
Ok great last 15 minutes settled down.  Helps not to have azuibuike in there but we will have our bigs back too.  Joey C got a little sloppy at the end but had some really nice dishes
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: NickelDimer on November 21, 2018, 07:25:16 PM
That the best half of D we've ever played under Wojo imo. Keep it up boys
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: nyg on November 21, 2018, 07:25:41 PM
Great defense after Vick barrage.

Wish last 1:30 went better, that Bailey shot and Joe C turnover not good.

Sacar, Cain stepped it up. Awesome playing by them

Conspiracy of refs against MU?  Thank them for calling two on Dotson and Azibuke, changed game.

Can MU keep up three point shooting and defense, hope so. 
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on November 21, 2018, 07:25:52 PM
Quote from: real chili 83 on November 21, 2018, 07:23:09 PM
Who would have thunk

ME! ME! ME!

Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 18, 2018, 12:56:15 AM
Louisiana-Lafayette "hung" with Kansas today, only down 4 at half, and only losing by 13.  I'm expecting a better result than that from MU.

Kansas has uber-scary talent, and by the end of the year will likely be uber-scary to face.  But this coming week - I see them at beatable.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: WolfganghisKhan on November 21, 2018, 07:25:56 PM
That last pick n pop is perfect. Markus needs to make that read every time he's rushed.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on November 21, 2018, 07:26:19 PM
Put $1000 ML on KU to win $230.

One half to go. Let's see hope I take the hit!!

What a half
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: seakm4 on November 21, 2018, 07:27:02 PM
Best half of the season so far.  Last 2 seasons?
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Herman Cain on November 21, 2018, 07:27:52 PM
Team looking good tonight. Lets keep it up in the second half. Keep working together as a team .
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: MUeng on November 21, 2018, 07:28:06 PM
Quote from: Tha Hound on November 21, 2018, 07:24:03 PM
We are abusing them on the pick and roll dish for a three. Feels so much better when it's not against us. Keep running it all night.
Exactly!  Every time it happens and Sam nails the trey, you can see the Kansas bench throw up their arms.  keep going to that well
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on November 21, 2018, 07:28:09 PM
A half like that is huge for confidence.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Mutaman on November 21, 2018, 07:28:59 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 21, 2018, 07:26:19 PM
Put $1000 ML on KU to win $230.

One half to go. Let's see hope I take the hit!!

What a half

You bet against your own team? Why? never understood that at all.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: CountryRoads on November 21, 2018, 07:29:26 PM
Really happy for Matt. Wouldn't be surprised if he is the big we want out on the floor in crunch time sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: WolfganghisKhan on November 21, 2018, 07:30:20 PM
Quote from: Mutaman on November 21, 2018, 07:28:59 PM
You bet against your own team? Why? never understood that at all.
hedge your happiness
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on November 21, 2018, 07:30:37 PM
Quote from: Mutaman on November 21, 2018, 07:28:59 PM
You bet against your own team? Why? never understood that at all.

Do it every big game

If we lose, might as well have some consolation.

Win, screw it I'm stoked.

I'll admit usually I don't go this much. But I won a big parlay over weekend
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: forgetful on November 21, 2018, 07:32:04 PM
Now we have to expect, and be ready to take a serious punch early in the 2nd half.  Keep composure when they make an inevitable run. 
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: muwarrior69 on November 21, 2018, 07:32:57 PM
Quote from: Da 'Lanche on November 21, 2018, 07:14:47 PM
I think Wojo has coached his arse off in the first half...let's see if he can match Self who is known for making great half time adjustments

Self is going to feed Azubuike the ball and we will not be able to stop him as our guys get into foul trouble. Just pointing out the obvious.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Mutaman on November 21, 2018, 07:33:43 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 21, 2018, 07:30:37 PM

I'll admit usually I don't go this much. But I won a big parlay over weekend

I think one of the differences between good gamblers and the other kind is how intelligent you are when you're playing with the house's money.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Floorslapper on November 21, 2018, 07:34:06 PM
Defense was really good in first half, and was surprised how many open looks we were able to create for Sam - some of that coming from major overplay on Markus.  Chartouney with some nice assists.

Kansas big man getting 2 fouls and benched helped some, but one of the better halves of basketball I recall seeing under Wojo.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: DarkWarrior on November 21, 2018, 07:34:30 PM
SOLID DEFENSE
SUPERB 3 POINT OFFENSE

Delivered a solid blow to Kansas, Self is a great coach, wait for the counter punch and see how we respond!

Can't wait to see how we finish!

Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: forgetful on November 21, 2018, 07:35:02 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on November 21, 2018, 07:32:57 PM
Self is going to feed Azubuike the ball and we will not be able to stop him as our guys get into foul trouble. Just pointing out the obvious.

We have 9 fouls in bigs still.  Azubuike is a 41% FT shooter. 

We also need to challenge him to get a few fouls on him too.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: AZWarrior on November 21, 2018, 07:37:29 PM
I expect them to try and take away our threes. 

If so, we can respond by establishing some inside scoring of our own.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: nyg on November 21, 2018, 07:37:44 PM
MU did not shoot a single free throw.  Not one.

Grimes and Azibuke each had two points and Dotson only four. 
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on November 21, 2018, 07:38:46 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 21, 2018, 07:26:19 PM
Put $1000 ML on KU to win $230.

One half to go. Let's see hope I take the hit!!

What a half

Run to New Jersey quick.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on November 21, 2018, 07:40:41 PM
Quote from: Mutaman on November 21, 2018, 07:33:43 PM
I think one of the differences between good gamblers and the other kind is how intelligent you are when you're playing with the house's money.

Hell yeah
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: CountryRoads on November 21, 2018, 07:42:14 PM
Those first 2 1/2 minutes couldn't have been any more predictable.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: nyg on November 21, 2018, 07:42:34 PM
And there's Theo.....

Offense looks like crap, good timeout.  Kansas different team with Dotson and Azibuke on the floor. 
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: NickelDimer on November 21, 2018, 07:42:54 PM
Theo takes a 3 off the board. That one hurt
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: nyg on November 21, 2018, 07:47:44 PM
No points in second half. Almost five minutes. 
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: forgetful on November 21, 2018, 07:48:23 PM
Quote from: nyg on November 21, 2018, 07:47:44 PM
No points in second half. Almost five minutes.

A couple good looks that just didn't fall.  Also, looks like a little nerves and tightness playing with the lead and figuring out what KU has done as adjustments.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: CountryRoads on November 21, 2018, 07:48:31 PM
Cain has looked pretty bad offensively this half.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Tha Hound on November 21, 2018, 07:49:11 PM
Self has made adjustments that have worked. Does Wojo have an answer?
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Da 'Lanche on November 21, 2018, 07:50:07 PM
Quote from: nyg on November 21, 2018, 07:47:44 PM
No points in second half. Almost five minutes.

Need to get back to ball movement...that is purposeful.  They adjusted to the perimeter...
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: CountryRoads on November 21, 2018, 07:51:18 PM
This is on the coaching staff
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on November 21, 2018, 07:52:37 PM
How much of that recruiting budget has Self given to the officials during halftime?
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: NickelDimer on November 21, 2018, 07:53:56 PM
What a horrible call on Heldt!
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on November 21, 2018, 07:54:14 PM
#wojohasnomojo

This is a parhetic display of an inept coaching staff.   
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: WolfganghisKhan on November 21, 2018, 07:55:45 PM
Self coaching circles around Wojo
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Tha Hound on November 21, 2018, 07:55:56 PM
Quote from: Tha Hound on November 21, 2018, 07:49:11 PM
Self has made adjustments that have worked. Does Wojo have an answer?

The answer is no. And its why WOjo is simply not going to cut it.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: jesmu84 on November 21, 2018, 07:56:15 PM
Quote from: 46-47warriorcaptain on November 21, 2018, 07:54:14 PM
#wojohasnomojo

This is a parhetic display of an inept coaching staff.

All players in the first and coaches in the second, eh?
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: MomofMUltiples on November 21, 2018, 07:56:31 PM
Wow. It must have been painful for some of you to have had to sit this long before you could start complaining.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: MUeng on November 21, 2018, 07:57:03 PM
wow this team has completely fallen apart.  this has to be on wojo...no energy, no defense
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on November 21, 2018, 07:57:29 PM
Sacar is worthless just lay it in
Not sure what he offers on either end
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on November 21, 2018, 07:57:45 PM
Shoulda kept quiet

Haven't even scored
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: GooooMarquette on November 21, 2018, 07:58:03 PM
Ugh..like the first half in '03.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: NickelDimer on November 21, 2018, 07:58:14 PM
There's going cold and then there's this. Wow.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: TFlegend on November 21, 2018, 07:58:21 PM
Have we just gone 8 min without scoring?  We had 47 at half, right?  WTF
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: BM1090 on November 21, 2018, 07:58:26 PM
Well, it was a fun 24 minutes.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on November 21, 2018, 07:58:29 PM
Yes actually. When your team gets shut out thus far in the second half because a legit game coach made an adjustment and you have zero answers
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: nyg on November 21, 2018, 07:58:34 PM
What's the NCAA record for not scoring a point to start a half?  This is eight minutes.  Serious.

Wojo needed a timeout like four minutes ago.  Never seen anything like it, MU has had droughts but not like this. 
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: forgetful on November 21, 2018, 07:58:38 PM
Quote from: MUeng on November 21, 2018, 07:57:03 PM
wow this team has completely fallen apart.  this has to be on wojo...no energy, no defense

We are actually playing better D this half than the first.  But we have 5 TOs, so they have 5 extra possessions. 

We are forcing too much on offense, not being patient.  They are also being way more aggressive.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Da 'Lanche on November 21, 2018, 07:59:00 PM
19-0 run is just incredibly telling...looks like a completely different team...frankly...they look lost..like they can't figure out what adjustments Self made (which of course he would make)... need to be back within 3-5 at the 10 minute mark or this will get out of hand
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: muwarrior69 on November 21, 2018, 07:59:12 PM
This is like the MSU game where it took us ten minutes to score our first points.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Herman Cain on November 21, 2018, 07:59:26 PM
The team is struggling to make baskets this half . Not taking good shots. Other team made some good adjustments at halftime.

If we can get hot and hit a few threes in a row we can get back in the game. Have to do it now.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Floorslapper on November 21, 2018, 07:59:59 PM
Well...Kansas is Number 2 in the country..so..had to expect some fight out of them.

Skewed results with their big stud on the bench for most of first half.

As we saw with Presybyterian sticking with MU, an underdog can win a half/even 3/4 of game.

But..I still am encouraged despite the 17-0 run.  We've looked better than we did against Indiana and look like we can mostly matchup/compete athletically.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: BM1090 on November 21, 2018, 08:00:04 PM
Might be time to start hacking Azibuke
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: seakm4 on November 21, 2018, 08:00:44 PM
Azabuke is shuffling every time in the post
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: WolfganghisKhan on November 21, 2018, 08:01:19 PM
Lmao. Cannot wait for some silver linings you guys find in this game.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: jesmu84 on November 21, 2018, 08:01:26 PM
Quote from: Floorslapper on November 21, 2018, 07:59:59 PM
Well...Kansas is Number 2 in the country..so..had to expect some fight out of them.

Skewed results with their big stud on the bench for most of first half.

As we saw with Presybyterian sticking with MU, an underdog can win a half/even 3/4 of game.

But..I still am encouraged despite the 17-0 run.  We've looked better than we did against Indiana and look like we can mostly matchup/compete athletically.

Cue Rocky speech from end of Rocky 4
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: CountryRoads on November 21, 2018, 08:01:36 PM
Howard completely missed hauser on a few early possessions.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Jockey on November 21, 2018, 08:01:51 PM
24-0 is downright embarrassing.

Anytime.

Anywhere.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: injuryBug on November 21, 2018, 08:02:34 PM
nothing to do with coaching the players have stopped moving on offense and moving the ball.  A lot of one on one play to start the half not to mention traveling by the ku big guy
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: nyg on November 21, 2018, 08:02:45 PM
There we go, nine minutes.

Let's make 10 threes in a row now. 
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: brewcity77 on November 21, 2018, 08:03:16 PM
Quote from: seakm4 on November 21, 2018, 08:00:44 PM
Azabuke is shuffling every time in the post

Lawson gets away with travels too.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: CountryRoads on November 21, 2018, 08:03:43 PM
Can we please take bailey out for the rest of the game?
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on November 21, 2018, 08:03:54 PM
Seems like KU gets a second chance on every miss!!!!!
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: muhoops1 on November 21, 2018, 08:03:59 PM
Wojo will have a littany of excuses postgame.  It got colder, we're young, gotta learn, toughness, defense, pad level, morphs into Mike McCarthy
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Johnny B on November 21, 2018, 08:05:23 PM
Turn over after turn over. Cant do a basic fact break
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Da 'Lanche on November 21, 2018, 08:05:47 PM
Quote from: WolfganghisKhan on November 21, 2018, 08:01:19 PM
Lmao. Cannot wait for some silver linings you guys find in this game.

There is a lot to like about this game...a lot.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: NickelDimer on November 21, 2018, 08:06:09 PM
All Sam had to do was lob that for Bailey. Frustrating
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Floorslapper on November 21, 2018, 08:06:57 PM
Quote from: AirPunch on November 21, 2018, 08:03:43 PM
Can we please take bailey out for the rest of the game?

I really don't see it with Bailey yet.  Think he's solidly behind Cain/Sacar.  Maybe a good practice player but its yet to translate to games...but no doubt some rust from the 2-year mission. 
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: WolfganghisKhan on November 21, 2018, 08:07:10 PM
Quote from: Da 'Lanche on November 21, 2018, 08:05:47 PM
There is a lot to like about this game...a lot.
That we made some open threes? Then they adjusted and we didn't score for 9 minutes?
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: DJO's Jaw on November 21, 2018, 08:07:22 PM
Sacar is bad at offense
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: T.V. Diener 34 on November 21, 2018, 08:07:33 PM
Markus hits a 3 so let's take him out.... makes sense
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: CountryRoads on November 21, 2018, 08:08:15 PM
Quote from: DJO's Jaw on November 21, 2018, 08:07:22 PM
Sacar is bad at offense

Him, Cain, and bailey sure as heck are not afraid to wing it up there at every opportunity though.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Tha Hound on November 21, 2018, 08:08:29 PM
Quote from: T.V. Diener 34 on November 21, 2018, 08:07:33 PM
Markus hits a 3 so let's take him out.... makes sense

He can't play the whole game, guy
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: cheese ball chaser on November 21, 2018, 08:09:38 PM
YOU GET A TURNOVER! YOU GET A TURNOVER! EVERYONE GETS A TURNOVER!
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: WolfganghisKhan on November 21, 2018, 08:10:25 PM
I'm pretty sure Howard and Hauserx2 are the only people on the team that can score.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: NickelDimer on November 21, 2018, 08:11:05 PM
We're just giving the game away with turnovers
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Floorslapper on November 21, 2018, 08:12:25 PM
Ugh...don't like the turnover by Cain..2nd one on the aggressive dribble drive going to his left, but really don't like Wojo pulling the kid because of it, after he just got back in the game.

Markus gets to play through all kinds of turnovers.  Understand the need for a slight double standard, yet it isn't good for a kid's confidence to get yanked like that.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: StillWarriors on November 21, 2018, 08:14:09 PM
Howard gets zero foul calls when he drives.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: cheese ball chaser on November 21, 2018, 08:15:50 PM
Not being able to play defense without fouling continues to be a staple of the Wojo era
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: muhoops1 on November 21, 2018, 08:16:13 PM
11 points for the team in 2nd half they don't deserve any calls.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on November 21, 2018, 08:17:53 PM
Gonna be a long long season.  Hope wojo enjoys that heated seat
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: cheese ball chaser on November 21, 2018, 08:18:41 PM
Did we seriously JUST take our first free throw of the game? Yikes.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: WolfganghisKhan on November 21, 2018, 08:19:47 PM
El oh El. 12 points in 17 minutes.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Windyplayer on November 21, 2018, 08:19:59 PM
Quote from: 46-47warriorcaptain on November 21, 2018, 08:17:53 PM
Gonna be a long long season.  Hope wojo enjoys that heated seat
Ha, we were up by 9 at half against the #2 team in the nation. Went cold. It happens. This team will have plenty of success this year.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: mubb3434 on November 21, 2018, 08:20:28 PM
Howard is playing awful. Missing open shooters and taking contested shots...Getting sick of hero ball
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Osiris on November 21, 2018, 08:20:35 PM
Quote from: Da 'Lanche on November 21, 2018, 08:05:47 PM
There is a lot to like about this game...a lot.

This was either meant to be teal  or you possess the pollyanic disposition of a 5 year old.  Not judging.  Jealous actually.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: WolfganghisKhan on November 21, 2018, 08:22:33 PM
Quote from: Osiris on November 21, 2018, 08:20:35 PM
This was either meant to be teal  or you possess the pollyanic disposition of a 5 year old.  Not judging.  Jealous actually.
Same. No idea how these guys can be so positive.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: NickelDimer on November 21, 2018, 08:22:57 PM
The bank FT!
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on November 21, 2018, 08:23:04 PM
Quote from: WolfganghisKhan on November 21, 2018, 08:22:33 PM
Same. No idea how these guys can be so positive.

No idea how you can be so negative.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: MattyWarrior on November 21, 2018, 08:23:13 PM
Unbelievable suckage on D no excuse for a 22 point run
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: whitykj on November 21, 2018, 08:23:58 PM
Did Wojo make ANY adjustments at halftime?!?!?  You know Self is going to get up on shooters and make every 3 contested giving up the lane.  Whats the plan?  Keep shooting.  Are you kidding me, 5 min left and he finally realized it.  Get to the basket and get to the line.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: WolfganghisKhan on November 21, 2018, 08:24:11 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 21, 2018, 08:23:04 PM
No idea how you can be so negative.
we've played two good teams. We've been embarrassed two straight times. We haven't been good in many years. What's there to be positive about?
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on November 21, 2018, 08:24:40 PM
Quote from: MattyWarrior on November 21, 2018, 08:23:13 PM
Unbelievable suckage on D no excuse for a 22 point run

Actually, the shocking thing there was 0 points scored by MU in that timeframe.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on November 21, 2018, 08:25:20 PM
Quote from: WolfganghisKhan on November 21, 2018, 08:24:11 PM
we've played two good teams. We've been embarrassed two straight times. We haven't been good in many years.

Not embarrassed here, and lead for the 1st half.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Da 'Lanche on November 21, 2018, 08:25:56 PM
Quote from: Osiris on November 21, 2018, 08:20:35 PM


This was either meant to be teal  or you possess the pollyanic disposition of a 5 year old.  Not judging.  Jealous actually

Or...I'm reminded why I don't post on this board.   We were up 9 on the #2 team in the country playing the best defense of the wojo era and a great game plan to start.   There is a lot not to like about this game...we got smoked in the second half and Self ran circles around wojo. Oh, and it is barely Thanksgiving...

But, thanks for not judging.  If you want a good look at the status of a 5 year old, perhaps look down the front of your trousers.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: WolfganghisKhan on November 21, 2018, 08:26:10 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 21, 2018, 08:25:20 PM
Not embarrassed here, and lead for the 1st half.
Put the banner up. We lead at half. We are proud about leading at half. Have some standards.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: NickelDimer on November 21, 2018, 08:26:14 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 21, 2018, 08:25:20 PM
Not embarrassed here, and lead for the 1st half.
Exactly. IU was an embarrassment. This not even close
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: T.V. Diener 34 on November 21, 2018, 08:27:10 PM
Quote from: Tha Hound on November 21, 2018, 08:08:29 PM
He can't play the whole game, guy

It was 20 seconds before a tv timeout, friend
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: NickelDimer on November 21, 2018, 08:27:51 PM
Why aren't we shooting 3s when we actually need them???
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: WolfganghisKhan on November 21, 2018, 08:28:03 PM
Quote from: NickelDimer on November 21, 2018, 08:26:14 PM
Exactly. IU was an embarrassment. This not even close
we allowed a 22-0 run. How is that not embarrassing?
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: muguru on November 21, 2018, 08:29:15 PM
I can see the "moral victory" crowd has arrived. Good grief is that how low this program has sunk, when we are PROUD of having a 9 point lead against the #2 team in the country for a half??  ::)
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on November 21, 2018, 08:29:36 PM
Quote from: WolfganghisKhan on November 21, 2018, 08:28:03 PM
we allowed a 22-0 run. How is that not embarrassing?

You apparently don't understand that Marquette went  10-0 in that time.  Clearly the coaches problem. sigh.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: muhoops1 on November 21, 2018, 08:29:40 PM
Guys always be happy with the product.  Dukiet was the coach when I was at MU.  Just sit back and accept it.  This is what we deserve.  Spend a ton of money and get embarrassed on National TV.  But there's always a reason.  Not coach or teams fault.  If there are extenuating circumstances no one is held accountable.  For example in Feb you'll hear "No shame in losing to SJU by 30 at home.  Ponds is playing."
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Mutaman on November 21, 2018, 08:29:46 PM
Morrow- zero points
             zero rebounds
             zero assists
             four fouls.

There has to be something physically wrong with this guy.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: OnlyGetsTheEasyPosts on November 21, 2018, 08:30:18 PM
Disappointing to not continue in the second half, but the first half was great to watch. Nice to see some good competition after the IU game.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Warrior_2002 on November 21, 2018, 08:31:56 PM
Poor coaching absolutely poor.  And we thought Crean sucked at Xs and Os.  2 free throws? Really?  Best talent we've had under Wojo and getting zero improvement.  Sad
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: JoeSmith1721 on November 21, 2018, 08:32:04 PM
So we chuck threes the entire game and when we actually need to take them we work it inside? How dumb can we be?
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: WolfganghisKhan on November 21, 2018, 08:32:09 PM
Quote from: muguru on November 21, 2018, 08:29:15 PM
I can see the "moral victory" crowd has arrived. Good grief is that how low this program has sunk, when we are PROUD of having a 9 point lead against the #2 team in the country for a half??  ::)
We're settling for morale victories when a lot of us expected a S16 run. Love it.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: NickelDimer on November 21, 2018, 08:32:59 PM
Quote from: JoeSmith1721 on November 21, 2018, 08:32:04 PM
So we chuck threes the entire game and when we actually need to take them we work it inside? How dumb can we be?
I said the same thing. Just bizarre
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: muhoops1 on November 21, 2018, 08:35:27 PM
Quote from: NickelDimer on November 21, 2018, 08:32:59 PM
I said the same thing. Just bizarre

We're Wojo dumb
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on November 21, 2018, 08:41:34 PM
The 22-0 run was similar to the run to start at IU.  Turnover driven.
I belive many should go crazy and jump out of tall buildings. 
But i think things are taking shape.  Morrow, bailey and sacar proving they should not be out there.  Heldt with a decent stint.  Game we coulda shoulda had a chance to win, but to say we lost by 9 and gave up a 22-0 run shows that the ability is there.  Joey, theo, and joey keep getting up to speed and we gonna be ok.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on November 21, 2018, 08:43:58 PM
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on November 21, 2018, 08:41:34 PM
The 22-0 run was similar to the run to start at IU.  Turnover driven.
I belive many should go crazy and jump out of tall buildings. 
But i think things are taking shape.  Morrow, bailey and sacar proving they should not be out there.  Heldt with a decent stint.  Game we coulda shoulda had a chance to win, but to say we lost by 9 and gave up a 22-0 run shows that the ability is there.  Joey, theo, and joey keep getting up to speed and we gonna be ok.

+1
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: BM1090 on November 21, 2018, 08:49:09 PM
Quote from: NickelDimer on November 21, 2018, 08:32:59 PM
I said the same thing. Just bizarre

Almost like we were getting open 3s in the first half....and KU ran us off the line in the 2nd. Crazy.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: NickelDimer on November 21, 2018, 08:52:22 PM
Quote from: MUeagle1090 on November 21, 2018, 08:49:09 PM
Almost like we were getting open 3s in the first half....and KU ran us off the line in the 2nd. Crazy.
That would explain not forcing 3s the first 10-12 minutes of the second half (which we did), but it doesn't explain not forcing 3s late when it was getting away from us (which we didn't).
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on November 21, 2018, 08:54:36 PM
Not sure Kansas really did anything differently defensively.  MU stopped moving the ball and started turning it over, mostly unforced.  Most of MUs fist half baskets were off of 2-3-4-5 passes and a ball reversal or two.  That rarely happened in the second half.  Much of the blame i put on Howard and his stupid hero ball.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Floorslapper on November 21, 2018, 08:58:28 PM
Quote from: NickelDimer on November 21, 2018, 08:32:59 PM
I said the same thing. Just bizarre

That was bizarre.  However, was good to see Joey operate out of low post and get some dump off action going with Theo.  That can be reproduced going forward.  We have to become at least two-dimensional on O, can't be all 3's and nothing else.
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: tower912 on November 21, 2018, 09:08:16 PM
It was an adjustment.    After no space was being created by passing around the perimeter, they passed into the post, hoping to get a double team and then start swinging the ball to an open shooter.    But Kansas did not double teams and there were no open shooters on the perimeter.   
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on November 22, 2018, 12:18:16 AM
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on November 21, 2018, 08:41:34 PM
The 22-0 run was similar to the run to start at IU.  Turnover driven.
I belive many should go crazy and jump out of tall buildings. 
But i think things are taking shape.  Morrow, bailey and sacar proving they should not be out there.  Heldt with a decent stint.  Game we coulda shoulda had a chance to win, but to say we lost by 9 and gave up a 22-0 run shows that the ability is there.  Joey, theo, and joey keep getting up to speed and we gonna be ok.

I told you all Bailey would have difficulty acclimating after a 2 year mission with no organized basketball or supervision in skill or strength work during that time. 
Title: Re: Kansas game thread
Post by: skianth16 on November 22, 2018, 12:44:01 AM
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on November 21, 2018, 08:41:34 PM
The 22-0 run was similar to the run to start at IU.  Turnover driven.
I belive many should go crazy and jump out of tall buildings. 
But i think things are taking shape.  Morrow, bailey and sacar proving they should not be out there.  Heldt with a decent stint.  Game we coulda shoulda had a chance to win, but to say we lost by 9 and gave up a 22-0 run shows that the ability is there.  Joey, theo, and joey keep getting up to speed and we gonna be ok.

Agree on Morrow and Bailey, but not Sacar. Sacar had a clear role last year as our best defender who needed to be on the floor. And he played well in that role. He even had a much improved offensive game by the end of the season because he found ways to get to the rim when defenses extended too far to account for all our shooters.

Once we figure out what lineups work well together, I think there's 15-20 available for Sacar. And if we ever get Markus under control and get the ball moving around better, we can see the same Sacar we saw last year.
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