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Title: Marquette opens +8.5 vs. Kansas
Post by: BM1090 on November 20, 2018, 05:59:45 PM
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Title: Re: Marquette opens +8.5 vs. Kansas
Post by: MuMark on November 20, 2018, 06:06:32 PM
Man that seems low
Title: Re: Marquette opens +8.5 vs. Kansas
Post by: BM1090 on November 20, 2018, 07:00:29 PM
Quote from: MuMark on November 20, 2018, 06:06:32 PM
Man that seems low

Kenpom has it as a 9 point win for KU so I guess it makes sense. I expected 10 or 11 though.
Title: Re: Marquette opens +8.5 vs. Kansas
Post by: mu03eng on November 20, 2018, 07:24:57 PM
I'd hammer Kansas if I was into such things
Title: Re: Marquette opens +8.5 vs. Kansas
Post by: GoldenZebra on November 20, 2018, 09:59:57 PM
Hopefully it just stays close. Not expecting much of anything  :D
Title: Re: Marquette opens +8.5 vs. Kansas
Post by: fjm on November 20, 2018, 11:21:58 PM
Vegas doesn't hate us. Which is concerning. Cause I wanna bet big on Kansas. But what does Vegas know that makes the line so close?
Title: Re: Marquette opens +8.5 vs. Kansas
Post by: 79Warrior on November 21, 2018, 12:02:57 AM

Gotta take Kansas
Title: Re: Marquette opens +8.5 vs. Kansas
Post by: TallTitan34 on November 21, 2018, 12:04:39 AM
I'll be betting Kansas.  Would love to lose some money though!
Title: Re: Marquette opens +8.5 vs. Kansas
Post by: brewcity77 on November 21, 2018, 01:38:40 AM
Quote from: fjm on November 20, 2018, 11:21:58 PM
Vegas doesn't hate us. Which is concerning. Cause I wanna bet big on Kansas. But what does Vegas know that makes the line so close?

That Scoop is overreacting to the IU loss. And maybe also that Marquette is a better 3PFG% team than it's shown so far while KU is a worse 3PFG% team than it has shown.
Title: Re: Marquette opens +8.5 vs. Kansas
Post by: muguru on November 21, 2018, 05:59:11 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 21, 2018, 01:38:40 AM
That Scoop is overreacting to the IU loss. And maybe also that Marquette is a better 3PFG% team than it's shown so far while KU is a worse 3PFG% team than it has shown.
KU also has not by any stretch looked dominant AT HOME vs. Lafayette and Vermont. They can be had.
Title: Re: Marquette opens +8.5 vs. Kansas
Post by: 4everwarriors on November 21, 2018, 06:43:56 AM
Bet da mortgage dat rock chalk covers, aina?
Title: Re: Marquette opens +8.5 vs. Kansas
Post by: Dish on November 21, 2018, 07:30:36 AM
A Tennessee & Kansas tease looks really tempting.
Title: Re: Marquette opens +8.5 vs. Kansas
Post by: reinko on November 21, 2018, 07:33:14 AM
Taking MU moneyline @ +380  8-)
Title: Re: Marquette opens +8.5 vs. Kansas
Post by: muguru on November 21, 2018, 07:38:50 AM
Interesting in that Kansas ranks 307th out of 351st in the country in 3 pt FG% defense thus far. MU is easily the best 3Pt shooting team they have seen thus far...bombs away, and if they are hitting...
Title: Re: Marquette opens +8.5 vs. Kansas
Post by: fjm on November 21, 2018, 07:45:24 AM
Line now at 9.5 on my site.
Title: Re: Marquette opens +8.5 vs. Kansas
Post by: Johnny B on November 21, 2018, 07:49:04 AM
I like being excited for a big game like this. Just hoping for a decent game. Another 25 pt loss might kill the season for me
Title: Re: Marquette opens +8.5 vs. Kansas
Post by: rocky_warrior on November 21, 2018, 07:59:09 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 21, 2018, 01:38:40 AM
That Scoop is overreacting to the IU loss. And maybe also that Marquette is a better 3PFG% team than it's shown so far while KU is a worse 3PFG% team than it has shown.

This

Quote from: muguru on November 21, 2018, 05:59:11 AM
KU also has not by any stretch looked dominant AT HOME vs. Lafayette and Vermont. They can be had.

And this.

At this point in the season, this *should* be a winnable game for Marquette.

Fire up warriors!
Title: Re: Marquette opens +8.5 vs. Kansas
Post by: tower912 on November 21, 2018, 08:13:01 AM
Speed kills. 
Title: Re: Marquette opens +8.5 vs. Kansas
Post by: wadesworld on November 21, 2018, 08:43:32 AM
Quote from: tower912 on November 21, 2018, 08:13:01 AM
Speed kills.

Sometimes.  Other times a team with Jalen Brunson, Phil Booth, Mikal Bridges, Eric Paschall, Omari Spellman, and Donte DiVencenzo blow the doors off of everyone in route to a national title.  I wouldn't consider any of those players as particularly speedy individuals for D1 athletes.  And I wouldn't really consider many of Moritz Wagner, Muhammad Ali Abdul-Rahkman, Zavier Simpson, Charles Matthews, or Duncan Robinson, their opponent in that national title game, to be super speedy D1 basketball players either.
Title: Re: Marquette opens +8.5 vs. Kansas
Post by: tower912 on November 21, 2018, 11:19:11 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on November 21, 2018, 08:43:32 AM
Sometimes.  Other times a team with Jalen Brunson, Phil Booth, Mikal Bridges, Eric Paschall, Omari Spellman, and Donte DiVencenzo blow the doors off of everyone in route to a national title.  I wouldn't consider any of those players as particularly speedy individuals for D1 athletes.  And I wouldn't really consider many of Moritz Wagner, Muhammad Ali Abdul-Rahkman, Zavier Simpson, Charles Matthews, or Duncan Robinson, their opponent in that national title game, to be super speedy D1 basketball players either.
We can do the Villanova debate here or elsewhere, but what really stood out with last year's team was their ability to switch all 5 positions on the perimeter on defense, and if the ball got dumped down inside, to quickly recover with size to contest near the rim.  Yes, Wright is a clearly a great coach, but you have to have speed and lateral quickness to effectively switch all 5 positions on the perimeter.   
Title: Re: Marquette opens +8.5 vs. Kansas
Post by: wadesworld on November 21, 2018, 11:27:32 AM
Quote from: tower912 on November 21, 2018, 11:19:11 AM
We can do the Villanova debate here or elsewhere, but what really stood out with last year's team was their ability to switch all 5 positions on the perimeter on defense, and if the ball got dumped down inside, to quickly recover with size to contest near the rim.  Yes, Wright is a clearly a great coach, but you have to have speed and lateral quickness to effectively switch all 5 positions on the perimeter.   

I just don't think either of those teams had much speed at all for a high major D1 basketball program.  Physicality and extremely well coached.
Title: Re: Marquette opens +8.5 vs. Kansas
Post by: tower912 on November 21, 2018, 11:29:16 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on November 21, 2018, 11:27:32 AM
I just don't think either of those teams had much speed at all for a high major D1 basketball program.  Physicality and extremely well coached.

Disagree, but not willing to break up this thread to argue about it. 
Title: Re: Marquette opens +8.5 vs. Kansas
Post by: MuMark on November 21, 2018, 11:43:19 AM
Quote from: muguru on November 21, 2018, 07:38:50 AM
Interesting in that Kansas ranks 307th out of 351st in the country in 3 pt FG% defense thus far. MU is easily the best 3Pt shooting team they have seen thus far...bombs away, and if they are hitting...

I think this is right.......Our strength is 3 point shooting......we haven't shot it well this season so far..........we have to take them and hope we get hot tonight.......if we do we should be able to keep it close....like MSU did (12-25).....if we continue to struggle out there we are going to lose at it won't be pretty.......

Let them fly and hope for the best.
Title: Re: Marquette opens +8.5 vs. Kansas
Post by: Floorslapper on November 21, 2018, 12:10:16 PM
Quote from: fjm on November 20, 2018, 11:21:58 PM
Vegas doesn't hate us. Which is concerning. Cause I wanna bet big on Kansas. But what does Vegas know that makes the line so close?

9 times out 10 the Vegas line is going to be within a point of what Pomeroy projection is.  We are projected to lose by 9.
Title: Re: Marquette opens +8.5 vs. Kansas
Post by: rocky_warrior on November 21, 2018, 07:15:39 PM
Quote from: tower912 on November 21, 2018, 08:13:01 AM
Speed kills.

Apparently you were right!  It's killing Kansas!
Title: Re: Marquette opens +8.5 vs. Kansas
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on November 21, 2018, 08:32:46 PM
9 point finish.  Vegas knew about the 24-0 run apparently.
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