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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Big Papi on November 15, 2018, 11:55:48 AM

Title: Rotational Depth
Post by: Big Papi on November 15, 2018, 11:55:48 AM
Always felt that a deep rotation is not a good thing unless you are pressing all game long.  You play your best players the most minutes.  Howard and Sam should be playing 32 plus minutes a game unless foul trouble or just awful play dictates otherwise. 

Right now, I think Wojo is playing too many players.  He needs to shorten his rotation to 8 core players.  Get the point guard on the court, get Theo extended minutes and surround them with shooters and scorers.  That means, Bailey and one of Morrow or Heldt are playing limited minutes at best, like its a blowout and they get in the last 4 minutes of the game.  They might or might not deserve more playing time but there is too much subbing, in and out.  I don't know how half of them can get into any kind of game flow and offensively I think it leads to more hero ball and standing around. 

Howard 35
Sam 35
Theo 25
Joe C 30
Cain 25
Joey 20
Sacar 20
Morrow/Heldt 10
Title: Re: Rotational Depth
Post by: Its DJOver on November 15, 2018, 11:58:55 AM
Agree that the rotation should be shortened up (and in time I think it will be), but I do not see a scenario where Theo plays 25 minutes without fouling out.
Title: Re: Rotational Depth
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on November 15, 2018, 04:16:09 PM
I think Morrow and Bailey lost rotation minutes last night. Joey gained. Toony gained just because Markus played so poorly at PG. Jamal probably earned some play also.
Title: Re: Rotational Depth
Post by: BM1090 on November 15, 2018, 05:12:02 PM
Crazy how much we miss Greg. I did not think his absence would impact us too much, but just someone who can create a little bit off the bounce would be a great addition.
Title: Re: Rotational Depth
Post by: skianth16 on November 15, 2018, 05:21:07 PM
Crazy how much we miss Greg. I did not think his absence would impact us too much, but just someone who can create a little bit off the bounce would be a great addition.

We have Sacar who is probably better on both sides of the ball than Greg right now. The problem is that our offensive scheme doesn't seem to allow for much outside of passing the ball around the perimeter looking for a three. We are way too one-dimensional, and we are under utilizing some bright spots in our offense right now.

Sacar should have the green light to drive and create, Joe should be given the chance to shoot or drive, Theo should should get touches as a back to the basket big. We need more scoring options, and Wojo needs to push for that. Being a good shooting team is a lot of fun when they're dropping, but on cold nights, we need to have other options.
Title: Re: Rotational Depth
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 15, 2018, 05:40:02 PM
Always felt that a deep rotation is not a good thing unless you are pressing all game long.  You play your best players the most minutes.  Howard and Sam should be playing 32 plus minutes a game unless foul trouble or just awful play dictates otherwise. 

Right now, I think Wojo is playing too many players.  He needs to shorten his rotation to 8 core players.  Get the point guard on the court, get Theo extended minutes and surround them with shooters and scorers.  That means, Bailey and one of Morrow or Heldt are playing limited minutes at best, like its a blowout and they get in the last 4 minutes of the game.  They might or might not deserve more playing time but there is too much subbing, in and out.  I don't know how half of them can get into any kind of game flow and offensively I think it leads to more hero ball and standing around. 

Howard 35
Sam 35
Theo 25
Joe C 30
Cain 25
Joey 20
Sacar 20
Morrow/Heldt 10

Like the idea but I see no way Joe C plays that much this season, and Sacar is going to be over 30 mins most nights. Sacar isn’t expected to score, but he does other things too well to take him off court. Sacar being a legit scoring option he’s shown the ability to be at times is definitely something this team could use.

Other than that, yah. Wouldn’t hate seeing a shorter rotation against Kansas. That said, not going to matter if Sam and Markus don’t hit their shots.
Title: Re: Rotational Depth
Post by: GoldenEagle323 on November 15, 2018, 10:49:37 PM
We have Sacar who is probably better on both sides of the ball than Greg right now. The problem is that our offensive scheme doesn't seem to allow for much outside of passing the ball around the perimeter looking for a three. We are way too one-dimensional, and we are under utilizing some bright spots in our offense right now.

Sacar should have the green light to drive and create, Joe should be given the chance to shoot or drive, Theo should should get touches as a back to the basket big. We need more scoring options, and Wojo needs to push for that. Being a good shooting team is a lot of fun when they're dropping, but on cold nights, we need to have other options.
we have 0 ball movement on offense
Title: Re: Rotational Depth
Post by: WarriorFan on November 16, 2018, 07:13:51 AM
Always felt that a deep rotation is not a good thing unless you are pressing all game long.  You play your best players the most minutes.  Howard and Sam should be playing 32 plus minutes a game unless foul trouble or just awful play dictates otherwise. 

Right now, I think Wojo is playing too many players.  He needs to shorten his rotation to 8 core players.  Get the point guard on the court, get Theo extended minutes and surround them with shooters and scorers.  That means, Bailey and one of Morrow or Heldt are playing limited minutes at best, like its a blowout and they get in the last 4 minutes of the game.  They might or might not deserve more playing time but there is too much subbing, in and out.  I don't know how half of them can get into any kind of game flow and offensively I think it leads to more hero ball and standing around. 

Howard 35
Sam 35
Theo 25
Joe C 30
Cain 25
Joey 20
Sacar 20
Morrow/Heldt 10

Fanatic - I respectfully disagree because we learned against IU that not only do we still have porous D, we have no Offense to speak of.  Therefore I want to go to full game full court man to man press and try to get steals and layups.  The other  team is getting layups anyway, we might as well put some pressure on them first and maybe get them tired. 
Title: Re: Rotational Depth
Post by: tower912 on November 16, 2018, 07:49:45 AM
   I always want a team to have a solid 8-9 man rotation.    Not with the minutes equally distributed, but with everyone knowing their roles.     In the modern game, I would want 2 PG's, 1 '5', 2 stretch 4's and 4 wings.    For this specific team, losing Elliott really emphasizes the roster imbalance.   4 3-4's and a lack of a true PG is poor roster balance. 
Title: Re: Rotational Depth
Post by: Newsdreams on November 16, 2018, 01:11:01 PM
We have Sacar who is probably better on both sides of the ball than Greg right now. The problem is that our offensive scheme doesn't seem to allow for much outside of passing the ball around the perimeter looking for a three. We are way too one-dimensional, and we are under utilizing some bright spots in our offense right now.

Sacar should have the green light to drive and create, Joe should be given the chance to shoot or drive, Theo should should get touches as a back to the basket big. We need more scoring options, and Wojo needs to push for that. Being a good shooting team is a lot of fun when they're dropping, but on cold nights, we need to have other options.

Sacar has been driving, but he is not a super aggressive offense type, JC I think is lacking confidence on offense he has had some very bad looking shots. I do not think either has been told not to shoot or limit their shots