Hoo Boy. Going to need some work if he is going to do this all season. I felt like i was watching a game with my wife...
"I thought he was going to take that shot".
"Yes dear."
"They should get the ball to the walk-on."
"Yes dear."
"He really missed that one."
"YES DEAR. DAMMIT, ARENT THOSE HALLMARK CHRISTMAS MOVIES ON YET?"
Cut him some slack. It's his first day on the job.
I bet Jimmy Mac wasn't all that great his first time on the air.
It'll take him a little time to find a good rhythm with Homer. True with any new broadcast partners.
It had nothing to do with rhythm. He really offered nothing in terms of analysis.
Preparation is the key. The late Dick Enberg's modus operandi was to prepare three hours for every hour he was on the air.
Too much repetition of the fact that Tony was a Hall of Famer.
Go Warriors!
Quote from: MUunderpants on October 30, 2018, 09:07:00 PM
"YES DEAR. DAMMIT, ARENT THOSE HALLMARK CHRISTMAS MOVIES ON YET?"
Yes, yes they are...
Yes tony was truly horrible. Homer kept having to n trying to prod tony to comment. Hopefully it gets exponentially better quickly, it was really bad. If not, hopefully the university has the fortitude to make a move in a better direction. Great player and great guy but if the dog wont hunt the U will need to make a move. Without huge improvements it will lose listeners
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on October 31, 2018, 07:14:58 AM
Yes tony was truly horrible. Homer kept having to n trying to prod tony to comment. Hopefully it gets exponentially better quickly, it was really bad. If not, hopefully the university has the fortitude to make a move in a better direction. Great player and great guy but if the dog wont hunt the U will need to make a move. Without huge improvements it will lose listeners
Homer seems like the kind of guy who would be willing to give Tony some off-air coaching. Let's hope he does.
Quote from: warriorchick on October 30, 2018, 09:33:48 PM
Cut him some slack. It's his first day on the job.
I bet Jimmy Mac wasn't all that great his first time on the air.
This.
I'm guessing most announcers have less than stellar first gigs. If he's still repeating the same lines at the end of the season, MU may have a decision to make.
I don't know who Tony is, but you all are probably being too hard on this fella if it was his first broadcast. Was he on the broadcast? If so, on what part? I wouldn't know because I had to shut off the volume after hearing the first 30 seconds of whoever the new color commentator is with Home. Mon Dieu! That was rough!
Truthfully speaking, cut him some slack. I actually thought he did okay. He has a good voice for radio and he'll grow into his role.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on October 31, 2018, 07:14:58 AM
Yes tony was truly horrible. Homer kept having to n trying to prod tony to comment. Hopefully it gets exponentially better quickly, it was really bad. If not, hopefully the university has the fortitude to make a move in a better direction. Great player and great guy but if the dog wont hunt the U will need to make a move. Without huge improvements it will lose listeners
Do people actually listen to the radio broadcast if they have the option to enjoy the game in some other form? The only time I'd ever listen to the radio broadcast of any sporting event is if I am unable to be watching the game, whether on TV or in person. And if my only option to enjoy a game is the radio (meaning I'm driving somewhere), I'm not going to give up on listening because the people calling the game aren't good at calling it.
Quote from: MUCam on October 31, 2018, 08:31:07 AM
I don't know who Tony is, but you all are probably being too hard on this fella if it was his first broadcast. Was he on the broadcast? If so, on what part? I wouldn't know because I had to shut off the volume after hearing the first 30 seconds of whoever the new color commentator is with Home. Mon Dieu! That was rough!
Truthfully speaking, cut him some slack. I actually thought he did okay. He has a good voice for radio and he'll grow into his role.
https://gomarquette.com/news/2018/9/12/mens-basketball-tony-smith-joins-marquette-radio-broadcast-team.aspx
Quote from: wadesworld on October 31, 2018, 08:38:13 AM
Do people actually listen to the radio broadcast if they have the option to enjoy the game in some other form? The only time I'd ever listen to the radio broadcast of any sporting event is if I am unable to be watching the game, whether on TV or in person. And if my only option to enjoy a game is the radio (meaning I'm driving somewhere), I'm not going to give up on listening because the people calling the game aren't good at calling it.
This.
I just about never listen to the Panthers on the radio for the "hometown call." A few times, I have been on the road and have had no choice. They are SOOOOOO bad. But I keep listening because I want to know what's going on in the game. I grit my teeth until I can get home to the TV.
Now I will say that I do have a couple of friends who will watch Marquette on TV but turn off the volume if it's on FS1/FS2 and Dickey is the analyst. They'll use the interwebs feed of Homer's call. I can't be bothered. Plus, I often watch MU games on a bit of a delay so I can forward through the commercials.
Quote from: wadesworld on October 31, 2018, 08:38:13 AM
Do people actually listen to the radio broadcast if they have the option to enjoy the game in some other form? The only time I'd ever listen to the radio broadcast of any sporting event is if I am unable to be watching the game, whether on TV or in person. And if my only option to enjoy a game is the radio (meaning I'm driving somewhere), I'm not going to give up on listening because the people calling the game aren't good at calling it.
Some of the TV announcers are unbearable. I ended up synching the radio broadcast to the TV video and listening to Homer and Mac several times last year.
Quote from: spartan3186 on October 31, 2018, 09:16:02 AM
Some of the TV announcers are unbearable. I ended up synching the radio broadcast to the TV video and listening to Homer and Mac several times last year.
Fair enough. I do agree that some of the TV guys are terrible. I just don't know that radio calls fit what I'm looking for any better. Radio calls are to paint a picture. When I'm already sitting there watching the picture being painted, I don't need that so I don't think I've ever done it that way.
Quote from: spartan3186 on October 31, 2018, 09:16:02 AM
Some of the TV announcers are unbearable. I ended up synching the radio broadcast to the TV video and listening to Homer and Mac several times last year.
Did this as well
Homer actually seemed frustrated with Tony a couple times during the brief time I listened last night. Homer has been lucky having Brute Force and Mac over the years and hoping he will get Tony up to speed. It was not an easy game to call
I'm not really a big fan of Homer either.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 31, 2018, 10:25:11 AM
I'm not really a big fan of Homer either.
Homer is really good!
Quote from: Goose on October 31, 2018, 10:21:54 AM
Homer actually seemed frustrated with Tony a couple times during the brief time I listened last night. Homer has been lucky having Brute Force and Mac over the years and hoping he will get Tony up to speed. It was not an easy game to call
This.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 31, 2018, 10:25:11 AM
I'm not really a big fan of Homer either.
I've only heard Homer as a radio host a handful of times... if that's your beef, fair. But as an announcer, Homer may not be a legend but he's certainly well above the current average. Try listening to another team's broadcast sometime. I can't remember if I was listening to DePaul or Butler broadcast once (not vs. MU), but the play-by-play was so bad that I actually had to look up "cancer of the eardrum" for a list of symptoms.
I wonder if its a new crew as well. Homer's mic was on during halftime and apparently was playing in the bathrooms.
As for Tony, all he needs to do is eat an 80 oz steak and he'll be ok. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz19jmgWgN8
Quote from: Galway Eagle on October 31, 2018, 09:34:37 AM
Did this as well
Never for me! It's like a spoon. I don't let it bother me. Most I find are pretty dam good. If MU is good, the better crews will work there games.
Quote from: Benny B on October 31, 2018, 10:33:38 AM
This.
I've only heard Homer as a radio host a handful of times... if that's your beef, fair. But as an announcer, Homer may not be a legend but he's certainly well above the current average. Try listening to another team's broadcast sometime. I can't remember if I was listening to DePaul or Butler broadcast once (not vs. MU), but the play-by-play was so bad that I actually had to look up "cancer of the eardrum" for a list of symptoms.
My only complaint is that in all of his excitement and nicknames he will miss calling some plays occasionally and I'll be left wondering what happened. I only listen when I don't have the TV feed available so I can't see for myself what's happening. He makes listening to the game exciting I'll give him that.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 31, 2018, 10:44:32 AM
My only complaint is that in all of his excitement and nicknames he will miss calling some plays occasionally and I'll be left wondering what happened. I only listen when I don't have the TV feed available so I can't see for myself what's happening. He makes listening to the game exciting I'll give him that.
I noticed this as well.
This is probably the only game all season I will hear the radio broadcast since the gomarquette.com stream was all that was available, but as I was watching maybe a possession and a half while Homer was off on a tangent, I thought to myself that I would be pissed if I didn't have the video stream.
I thought Tony was fine for his first game.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on October 31, 2018, 08:44:21 AM
https://gomarquette.com/news/2018/9/12/mens-basketball-tony-smith-joins-marquette-radio-broadcast-team.aspx
Oh. So you're saying its not this Tony? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_the_Tiger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_the_Tiger)
Or this Tony? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Danza (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Danza)
Don't I feel sheepish.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on October 31, 2018, 10:28:41 AM
Homer is really good!
I think Tony will grow into it. Knows the game, good personality and easy voice to listen to.
I understand there are a lot of fans from WI who are so used to Homer and enjoy him, but I've always found his call of MU games to be extremely grating. Mac made it somewhat palatable. Hopefully Tony will with time too. Fortunately most games are on tv.
Quote from: StillWarriors on October 31, 2018, 11:14:34 AM
I think Tony will grow into it. Knows the game, good personality and easy voice to listen to.
I understand there are a lot of fans from WI who are so used to Homer and enjoy him, but I've always found his call of MU games to be extremely grating. Mac made it somewhat palatable. Hopefully Tony will with time too. Fortunately most games are on tv.
Not from wisconsin
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on October 31, 2018, 10:39:38 AM
Never for me! It's like a spoon. I don't let it bother me. Most I find are pretty dam good. If MU is good, the better crews will work there games.
This metaphor of a spoon is lost on me.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on October 31, 2018, 11:35:27 AM
This metaphor of a spoon is lost on me.
https://www.youtube.com/v/4iGSAFjzBd8
Kinda OT but since the game was streamed, is there a replay of said stream available anywhere?
Interesting that Homer's pants were pulled down last night, hearing him bitch off mic, at halftime about Tony's comments why the team be nervous/ rusty in their first game. He said, He "isn't nervous when he plays tennis." Also, hearing him bitch off mic about Markus' foul 40 feet from the basket. ::). Big MU homer, huh?
Quote from: mugrack on October 31, 2018, 05:14:24 PM
Interesting that Homer's pants were pulled down last night, hearing him bitch off mic, at halftime about Tony's comments why the team be nervous/ rusty in their first game. He said, He "isn't nervous when he plays tennis." Also, hearing him bitch off mic about Markus' foul 40 feet from the basket. ::). Big MU homer, huh?
You can't criticize a stupid play and still be a homer?
I realized last night that "missed the layup" for Homer could be any shot within 2 feet of the basket. For years, I thought MU was dribbling with a straight path to the basket and missed the shot, when I listened on the radio.
You can't criticize a stupid play and still be a homer?
If you do it on the air too. Hence pants pulled down :o
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 31, 2018, 10:25:11 AM
I'm not really a big fan of Homer either.
Get outta here!
Look broadcasting is hard, especially a game like that. It wasn't great but your first run never is. It should get better just because of that.
Quote from: mujivitz06 on October 31, 2018, 08:12:27 PM
Get outta here!
I'd perfer you on play-by-play or color. Not saying you are bad. I would legitimately want you on the crew.
I think you are being way too hard on Tony. He did fine. Homer is over the top, of course, and that is fine. But it means the color guy should probably be much more reserved. Two hyper loud guys would be a bit too much.
Tony had a lot of good basketball stuff as far as positioning, passing, etc. The stuff that you'd hear from someone who knows that game or was a coach, etc. This was an exhibition game and his first game. Give Homer and him a bit of time. I wasn't too impressed by Mac early on, but he really developed and was great. I'll never forget when Buzz ripped into Mac for asking a normal soft ball question and misinterpreted it as criticism. How Mac help back and was so professional, is a credit to Mac.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 31, 2018, 10:17:00 PM
I'd perfer you on play-by-play or color. Not saying you are bad. I would legitimately want you on the crew.
?-(
Quote from: Benny B on November 01, 2018, 09:20:24 AM
?-(
Benny, surely you of all people have the Scoop Illuminati secret identities all figured out by now?
mujivitz = Homer
mueng03 = Larry Williams
Chicos = Buzz Williams
4Ever = Riley Crean
warriorchick = Bill Cords
williewarrior = Steve Wojo
Benny = Myron Medcalf
BigDaddy = BMOHBC/FiFo Head of Custodial Services
HermanCain = Herman Cain
Quote from: barfolomew on November 01, 2018, 10:46:38 AM
Benny, surely you of all people have the Scoop Illuminati secret identities all figured out by now?
mujivitz = Homer
mueng03 = Larry Williams
Chicos = Buzz Williams
4Ever = Riley Crean
warriorchick = Bill Cords
williewarrior = Steve Wojo
Benny = Myron Medcalf
BigDaddy = BMOHBC/FiFo Head of Custodial Services
HermanCain = Herman Cain
You just won the Internet today.
Quote from: barfolomew on November 01, 2018, 10:46:38 AM
Benny, surely you of all people have the Scoop Illuminati secret identities all figured out by now?
mujivitz = Homer
mueng03 = Larry Williams
Chicos = Buzz Williams
4Ever = Riley Crean
warriorchick = Bill Cords
williewarrior = Steve Wojo
Benny = Myron Medcalf
BigDaddy = BMOHBC/FiFo Head of Custodial Services
HermanCain = Herman Cain
I never make the cool lists.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on October 31, 2018, 08:27:05 AM
This.
I'm guessing most announcers have less than stellar first gigs. If he's still repeating the same lines at the end of the season, MU may have a decision to make.
You should have heard Mike Shannon when he first joined the St. Louis Cardinals broadcast team. He was way beyond awful. One had to wonder whether Shannon could breathe and broadcast at anything close to the same time.
He certainly has not become Jack Buck in the years since, but Shannon is servicable and has become a beloved figure in St. Louis. It took time but in time, he learned to understand what he could and could not do as a broadcaster and his observations on the game aren't bad.
I'm sure the same will be the case with Tony.
Five years to judge
Quote from: Eldon on November 02, 2018, 09:16:51 AM
Five years to judge
I wonder do Tony and Homer flush at the FF?
Quote from: Sultan of South Wayne on November 01, 2018, 12:49:14 PM
I never make the cool lists.
You probably would have, but every time someone mentions McAdams around here, the thread gets shut down.
Quote from: dgies9156 on November 02, 2018, 09:14:05 AM
You should have heard Mike Shannon when he first joined the St. Louis Cardinals broadcast team. He was way beyond awful. One had to wonder whether Shannon could breathe and broadcast at anything close to the same time.
He certainly has not become Jack Buck in the years since, but Shannon is servicable and has become a beloved figure in St. Louis. It took time but in time, he learned to understand what he could and could not do as a broadcaster and his observations on the game aren't bad.
I'm sure the same will be the case with Tony.
Nobody cares about the Cardinals.
Quote from: Sultan of South Wayne on November 01, 2018, 12:49:14 PM
I never make the cool lists.
Beyond kool ta kall da Vatican yo digs, aina?
This is painful. And you can tell homer is trying to help him out, but it's just terrible.
What's so terrible? Sounds fine to me.
The folks that were beyond terrible were the Marquette Gameday hosts on ESPN/WKTI last night. The host had not a clue, was repeating himself over and over and over again and sounded like his pre-game preparation occurred while Mommy was changing his diapers.
Dead air would have been preferable to the pre-game show between 7 and 730.
Quote from: dgies9156 on November 07, 2018, 08:29:03 AM
The folks that were beyond terrible were the Marquette Gameday hosts on ESPN/WKTI last night. The host had not a clue, was repeating himself over and over and over again and sounded like his pre-game preparation occurred while Mommy was changing his diapers.
Dead air would have been preferable to the pre-game show between 7 and 730.
Thought the same thing. I thank him though as it forced me to go to hotel lobby to watch game on TV versus radio.
I like Anderson and Berto on FS1. No way I'm listening to Homer instead of those two.
Quote from: dgies9156 on November 02, 2018, 09:14:05 AM
You should have heard Mike Shannon when he first joined the St. Louis Cardinals broadcast team. He was way beyond awful. One had to wonder whether Shannon could breathe and broadcast at anything close to the same time.
He certainly has not become Jack Buck in the years since, but Shannon is servicable and has become a beloved figure in St. Louis. It took time but in time, he learned to understand what he could and could not do as a broadcaster and his observations on the game aren't bad.
I'm sure the same will be the case with Tony.
This describes Ron Santo as well. And, frankly, George Thompson. Even Mac had some awkward moments...remember when Buzz scolded him for no apparent reason on a postgame? This was back in the days when he was talking about how many days he'd been coach every single time he opened his mouth.
Smith will be fine!
Quote from: Sultan of South Wayne on November 07, 2018, 09:25:40 AM
I like Anderson and Berto on FS1. No way I'm listening to Homer instead of those two.
Bardo does great work on FS1 & BTN.