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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 17, 2018, 11:51:16 PM

Title: CBS Top 100 (and 1) Players
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 17, 2018, 11:51:16 PM
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-the-top-100-and-one-best-players-for-the-2018-19-season/

Markus checks in at #16, second in the Big East to Shamorie Ponds.

Sammy listed at #84.
Title: Re: CBS Top 100 (and 1) Players
Post by: wadesworld on October 18, 2018, 08:54:04 AM
Matt Daum is the most underrated player in college basketball.  De'Andre Hunter isn't too far behind.
Title: Re: CBS Top 100 (and 1) Players
Post by: NotAnAlum on October 18, 2018, 09:42:54 AM
Grimes at 21.  Wow! what might have been.  MU with a backcourt of 2 top 25 guys.
Title: Re: CBS Top 100 (and 1) Players
Post by: MU82 on October 18, 2018, 09:46:16 AM
Ponds has played against us 4x. He completely annihilated us once, had two decent games against us, and had one pretty bad game against us. St. John's was 2-2 in those games.

Markus has shot better than Ponds by every possible metric, crushes him in the all-telling eFG%.

I don't watch much St. John's basketball; indeed, I have seen Ponds in only the 4 games against us. So I'll ask my fellow Scoopers: Is he really a better player than Markus, as many of the all-American projections seem to suggest?
Title: Re: CBS Top 100 (and 1) Players
Post by: Golden Avalanche on October 18, 2018, 10:13:36 AM
Ponds has played against us 4x. He completely annihilated us once, had two decent games against us, and had one pretty bad game against us. St. John's was 2-2 in those games.

Markus has shot better than Ponds by every possible metric, crushes him in the all-telling eFG%.

I don't watch much St. John's basketball; indeed, I have seen Ponds in only the 4 games against us. So I'll ask my fellow Scoopers: Is he really a better player than Markus, as many of the all-American projections seem to suggest?

No.

But he's a flashier player in getting his buckets and the college basketball media is beyond desperate for St. John's to be relevant so Ponds gets a ton of extra attention which leads to rankings like this.
Title: Re: CBS Top 100 (and 1) Players
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 18, 2018, 10:24:01 AM
Ponds has played against us 4x. He completely annihilated us once, had two decent games against us, and had one pretty bad game against us. St. John's was 2-2 in those games.

Markus has shot better than Ponds by every possible metric, crushes him in the all-telling eFG%.

I don't watch much St. John's basketball; indeed, I have seen Ponds in only the 4 games against us. So I'll ask my fellow Scoopers: Is he really a better player than Markus, as many of the all-American projections seem to suggest?

Yes.  Markus is the much better scorer but Ponds is better in pretty much every other facet of the game. I would be curious what ponds shooting splits would be if he had weapons like Markus does around him. We might find out this season
Title: Re: CBS Top 100 (and 1) Players
Post by: JWags85 on October 18, 2018, 10:31:44 AM
Matt Daum is the most underrated player in college basketball.  De'Andre Hunter isn't too far behind.

Mike Daum isn't bad either  8-)

I don't know how he keeps flying under the radar.  Two time player of the year in conference as a So and Jr, honorable mention AA those years, and he has been good to great each time they've been in the NCAA tourney.  He was a monster against OSU, singlehandedly kept them in that game.

Title: Re: CBS Top 100 (and 1) Players
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 18, 2018, 12:29:09 PM
https://watchstadium.com/news/jeff-goodman-ranks-the-top-30-shooters-in-college-basketball-right-now-10-17-2018/

Jeff Goodman's Top 30 Shooters in the country. Markus at #2 and Sam at #12. Honestly, Sam may be too low on that list.
Title: Re: CBS Top 100 (and 1) Players
Post by: MomofMUltiples on October 19, 2018, 11:37:07 AM
Markus may be too low.  Seems like the only difference between him and #1 is 5" of height and one more year of data.  Markus's stats are better. (45.4% from 3, 92% from the stripe).
Title: Re: CBS Top 100 (and 1) Players
Post by: Herman Cain on October 19, 2018, 11:41:06 AM
Sam has incredible form on his shot and he consistently applies it. I am cautiously optimistic that JC will be able to get him the ball in places he likes to shoot.