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This is for you, FJM.

vs. UMBC
vs. Bethune Cookman
@ Indiana
vs. Presbyterian
vs. Kansas (N)
vs. Louisville / Tennessee (N)
vs. Charleston Southern
vs. Kansas State
vs. UTEP
vs. Wisconsin
vs. North Dakota
vs. Buffalo
vs. Southern
@ St. Johns
vs. Xavier
@ Creighton
vs. Seton Hall
@ Georgetown
vs. Providence
vs. Depaul
@ Xavier
@ Butler
vs. St. Johns
vs. Villanova
@ Depaul
vs. Butler
@ Providence
@ Villanova
vs. Creighton
@ Seton Hall
vs. Georgetown

W
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L
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BE Tournament we lose our first Game, lose in the sweet 16.

vs. UMBC W
vs. Bethune Cookman W
@ Indiana L
vs. Presbyterian W
vs. Kansas (N) L
vs. Louisville / Tennessee (N) W (Louisville)
vs. Charleston Southern W
vs. Kansas State W
vs. UTEP W
vs. Wisconsin W
vs. North Dakota W
vs. Buffalo W
vs. Southern W
@ St. Johns L
vs. Xavier W
@ Creighton W
vs. Seton Hall W
@ Georgetown W
vs. Providence W
vs. Depaul W
@ Xavier W
@ Butler W
vs. St. Johns W
vs. Villanova L
@ Depaul W
vs. Butler W
@ Providence L
@ Villanova L
vs. Creighton W
@ Seton Hall W
vs. Georgetown W

Non-con: 11-2
Big East: 14-4

25-6 heading into the BET, comfortably inside the top 15, and looking at a 3 seed.

vs. UMBC W
vs. Bethune Cookman W
@ Indiana L
vs. Presbyterian W
vs. Kansas (N) L
vs. Louisville / Tennessee (N)W
vs. Charleston Southern W
vs. Kansas State W
vs. UTEP W
vs. Wisconsin W
vs. North Dakota W
vs. Buffalo L
vs. Southern W
@ St. Johns W
vs. Xavier W
@ Creighton  L
vs. Seton Hall W
@ Georgetown W
vs. Providence W
vs. Depaul W
@ Xavier L
@ Butler L
vs. St. Johns W
vs. Villanova L
@ Depaul W
vs. Butler W
@ Providence L
@ Villanova L
vs. Creighton W
@ Seton Hall W
vs. Georgetown W

10-3 Nonconference
12-6 Conference

22-9 Overall, 7 seed.

W  vs. UMBC
W  vs. Bethune Cookman
L   @ Indiana
W  vs. Presbyterian
L   vs. Kansas (N)
W  vs. Louisville / Tennessee (N)
W  vs. Charleston Southern
W  vs. Kansas State
W  vs. UTEP
W  vs. Wisconsin
W  vs. North Dakota
L  vs. Buffalo
W  vs. Southern
L   @ St. Johns
W  vs. Xavier
L   @ Creighton
W  vs. Seton Hall
W  @ Georgetown
W  vs. Providence
W  vs. Depaul
W  @ Xavier
L   @ Butler
W  vs. St. Johns
W  vs. Villanova
W  @ Depaul
W  vs. Butler
L   @ Providence
W  @ Villanova
W  vs. Creighton
W  @ Seton Hall
W  vs. Georgetown

10-3 Non con
14-4 Con (sweep Nova)
24-7 regular season
win conference
make it to conf final (losing to Nova)
26-8 following BE tourney
ranked 12
3 seed
elite 8 (West regional, beating 2 seed Kansas in Sweet 16 revenge game; but losing to 4 seed Nevada in EE)
29-9 end of season final record

vs. UMBC W
vs. Bethune Cookman W
@ Indiana L
vs. Presbyterian W
vs. Kansas (N) L
vs. Louisville / Tennessee (N) W
vs. Charleston Southern W
vs. Kansas State W
vs. UTEP W
vs. Wisconsin W
vs. North Dakota W
vs. Buffalo W
vs. Southern W
@ St. Johns L
vs. Xavier W
@ Creighton W
vs. Seton Hall W
@ Georgetown L
vs. Providence W
vs. Depaul W
@ Xavier L
@ Butler L
vs. St. Johns W
vs. Villanova W
@ Depaul W
vs. Butler L
@ Providence W
@ Villanova L
vs. Creighton W
@ Seton Hall W
vs. Georgetown W

11-2 Non con
12-6 Con
23-8 regular season

2nd place Big East Finish
BET Championship Game Appearance
4 Seed in NCAA
Round of 32 for sure, hopefully more.

I think the game against Kansas State will be the best early season barometer for us. Kansas and @Indiana I think we will be significant dogs and Louisville, Wisconsin, and Buffalo we will be significant favorites. I think that K-State game will give us good idea of how good we are.

why does nobody else believe we have a shot against kansas?

vs. UMBC W
vs. Bethune Cookman W
@ Indiana W
vs. Presbyterian W
vs. Kansas (N) L
vs. Louisville / Tennessee (N) W
vs. Charleston Southern W
vs. Kansas State L
vs. UTEP W
vs. Wisconsin W
vs. North Dakota W
vs. Buffalo W
vs. Southern W
@ St. Johns L
vs. Xavier W
@ Creighton W
vs. Seton Hall W
@ Georgetown W
vs. Providence W
vs. Depaul W
@ Xavier W
@ Butler L
vs. St. Johns W
vs. Villanova W
@ Depaul W
vs. Butler W
@ Providence L
@ Villanova L
vs. Creighton W
@ Seton Hall W
vs. Georgetown W


11-2 non-con
14-4 conference
25-6 regular season (tied with Nova for regular season)
2-1 BEast tourney (lose final to Nova)
3 seed NCAA
E8

Quote from: Galway Eagle on October 16, 2018, 03:49:55 PM
why does nobody else believe we have a shot against kansas?

we have a shot but no one is picking them due to them being the number 1 team in the nation

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on October 16, 2018, 02:35:16 PM
This is for you, FJM.

vs. UMBC W
vs. Bethune Cookman W
@ Indiana W
vs. Presbyterian W
vs. Kansas (N) L
vs. Louisville / Tennessee (N) W
vs. Charleston Southern W
vs. Kansas State L
vs. UTEP W
vs. Wisconsin W
vs. North Dakota W
vs. Buffalo W
vs. Southern W
@ St. Johns L
vs. Xavier W
@ Creighton W
vs. Seton Hall W
@ Georgetown L
vs. Providence L
vs. Depaul L
@ Xavier W
@ Butler L
vs. St. Johns W
vs. Villanova W
@ Depaul W
vs. Butler W
@ Providence L
@ Villanova L
vs. CreightonW
@ Seton Hall W
vs. Georgetown W

11-2 Non-Con
13-5 Con
24-7 Overall

Big East Tournament Champions

Quote from: Marquette4life on October 16, 2018, 03:55:05 PM
we have a shot but no one is picking them due to them being the number 1 team in the nation

I remember another time nobody picked us against the no1 team in the nation.

Quote from: Galway Eagle on October 16, 2018, 04:08:56 PM
I remember another time nobody picked us against the no1 team in the nation.

I know I'm just saying. You asked why no one is picking us and that's why

vs. UMBC W
vs. Bethune Cookman W
@ Indiana W
vs. Presbyterian W
vs. Kansas (N) L
vs. Louisville / Tennessee (N) W (Louisville)
vs. Charleston Southern W
vs. Kansas State L
vs. UTEP W
vs. Wisconsin W
vs. North Dakota W
vs. Buffalo L
vs. Southern W
@ St. Johns L
vs. Xavier W
@ Creighton L
vs. Seton Hall W
@ Georgetown W
vs. Providence W
vs. Depaul W
@ Xavier L
@ Butler L
vs. St. Johns W
vs. VillanovaW
@ Depaul W
vs. Butler W
@ Providence L
@ Villanova L
vs. Creighton W
@ Seton Hall W
vs. Georgetown W

Non-con: 10-3
Big East: 12-6; T-2 BE

22-9 regular season
2-1 BET
S16 loss

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on October 16, 2018, 02:35:16 PM
This is for you, FJM.

vs. UMBC W
vs. Bethune Cookman W
@ Indiana W
vs. Presbyterian W
vs. Kansas (N) W
vs. Louisville / Tennessee (N) W
vs. Charleston Southern W
vs. Kansas State W
vs. UTEP W
vs. Wisconsin W
vs. North Dakota W
vs. Buffalo W
vs. Southern W
@ St. Johns W
vs. Xavier W
@ Creighton W
vs. Seton Hall W
@ Georgetown W
vs. Providence W
vs. Depaul W
@ Xavier W
@ Butler W
vs. St. Johns W
vs. Villanova W
@ Depaul W
vs. Butler W
@ Providence W
@ Villanova L
vs. Creighton W
@ Seton Hall W
vs. Georgetown W

Then we cut down some nets in Minny.

Go bold or go home.

vs. UMBC W
vs. Bethune Cookman W
@ Indiana L
vs. Presbyterian W
vs. Kansas (N) W
vs. Louisville / Tennessee (N) L
vs. Charleston Southern W
vs. Kansas State W
vs. UTEP W
vs. Wisconsin W
vs. North Dakota W
vs. Buffalo W
vs. Southern W
@ St. Johns L
vs. Xavier W
@ Creighton W
vs. Seton Hall W
@ Georgetown W
vs. Providence W
vs. Depaul W
@ Xavier W
@ Butler L
vs. St. Johns W
vs. Villanova W
@ Depaul W
vs. Butler W
@ Providence W
@ Villanova L
vs. Creighton W
@ Seton Hall W
vs. Georgetown W

Non-conference: 11-2
Big East: 15-3 (1st)

26-5 regular season
2-1 Big East Tournament
2-seed NCAA
Elite 8

Assumes Greg Elliot sits out the entire season

Wvs. UMBC
Wvs. Bethune Cookman
L@ Indiana
Wvs. Presbyterian
Lvs. Kansas (N)
Wvs. Louisville / Tennessee (N)
Wvs. Charleston Southern
Wvs. Kansas State
Wvs. UTEP
Wvs. Wisconsin
Wvs. North Dakota
Wvs. Buffalo
Wvs. Southern
L@ St. Johns
Wvs. Xavier
W@ Creighton
Wvs. Seton Hall
L@ Georgetown
Wvs. Providence
Wvs. Depaul
L@ Xavier
L@ Butler
Wvs. St. Johns
Lvs. Villanova
W@ Depaul
Wvs. Butler
L@ Providence
L@ Villanova
Wvs. Creighton
W@ Seton Hall
Wvs. Georgetown

11-2 Non Conference
11-7 Conference
22-9 Regular Season
2-1 BET
L S16

vs. UMBC W
vs. Bethune Cookman W
@ Indiana L
vs. Presbyterian W
vs. Kansas (N) L
vs. Louisville / Tennessee (N) W
vs. Charleston Southern W
vs. Kansas State L
vs. UTEP W
vs. Wisconsin W
vs. North Dakota W
vs. Buffalo W
vs. Southern W
@ St. Johns L
vs. Xavier W
@ Creighton W
vs. Seton Hall W
@ Georgetown L
vs. Providence W
vs. Depaul W
@ Xavier L
@ Butler L
vs. St. Johns W
vs. Villanova W
@ Depaul W
vs. Butler W
@ Providence L
@ Villanova L
vs. Creighton W
@ Seton Hall W
vs. Georgetown W

Non-conference: 10-3
Big East: 12-6 (3rd)

22-9 regular season
1-1 Big East Tournament
6 Seed NCAA
Round of 32

Quote from: Galway Eagle on October 16, 2018, 03:49:55 PM
why does nobody else believe we have a shot against kansas?

I like our odds against Kansas better than Tennessee. KU will be trying to blend freshmen and transfers while UT returns virtually everyone. Come March it could be a different story, but in November I think Kansas is the easier team to pick off than Tennessee.

vs. UMBC W
vs. Bethune Cookman W
@ Indiana W
vs. Presbyterian W
vs. Kansas (N) L
vs. Louisville / Tennessee (N) W
vs. Charleston Southern W
vs. Kansas State W
vs. UTEP W
vs. Wisconsin L
vs. North Dakota W
vs. Buffalo W
vs. Southern W
@ St. Johns L
vs. Xavier W
@ Creighton W
vs. Seton Hall W
@ Georgetown L
vs. Providence W
vs. Depaul W
@ Xavier L
@ Butler W
vs. St. Johns L
vs. Villanova W
@ Depaul W
vs. Butler W
@ Providence W
@ Villanova L
vs. Creighton W
@ Seton Hall W
vs. Georgetown W

Non-conference: 11-2
Big East: 13-5 (Tied 1st)

24-7 regular season
BET Champs
2 Seed NCAA
Great 8

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on October 16, 2018, 02:42:08 PM
vs. UMBC W
vs. Bethune Cookman W
@ Indiana L
vs. Presbyterian W
vs. Kansas (N) L
vs. Louisville / Tennessee (N) W (Louisville)
vs. Charleston Southern W
vs. Kansas State W
vs. UTEP W
vs. Wisconsin W
vs. North Dakota W
vs. Buffalo W
vs. Southern W
@ St. Johns L
vs. Xavier W
@ Creighton W
vs. Seton Hall W
@ Georgetown W
vs. Providence W
vs. Depaul W
@ Xavier W
@ Butler W
vs. St. Johns W
vs. Villanova L
@ Depaul W
vs. Butler W
@ Providence L
@ Villanova L
vs. Creighton W
@ Seton Hall W
vs. Georgetown W

Non-con: 11-2
Big East: 14-4

25-6 heading into the BET, comfortably inside the top 15, and looking at a 3 seed.

Wow.......25-6?
Maybe in conf USA 
Love it....don't see it. 22-9 more realistic

vs. UMBC W
vs. Bethune Cookman W
@ Indiana W
vs. Presbyterian W
vs. Kansas (N) L
vs. Louisville / Tennessee (N) W
vs. Charleston Southern W
vs. Kansas State L
vs. UTEP W
vs. Wisconsin W
vs. North Dakota W
vs. Buffalo L
vs. Southern W
@ St. Johns L
vs. Xavier W
@ Creighton  W
vs. Seton Hall W
@ Georgetown L
vs. Providence L
vs. Depaul W
@ Xavier W
@ Butler L
vs. St. Johns W
vs. Villanova W
@ Depaul W
vs. Butler W
@ Providence W
@ Villanova L
vs. Creighton W
@ Seton Hall W
vs. Georgetown W

10-3 Nonconference
13-5 Conference

1-1 BET

24-9 Overall, 6 seed

I'll go with
11-2 non-league
13-5 BE
2-1 BET
2-1 NC2As
28-9 overall

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on October 16, 2018, 02:35:16 PM


vs. UMBC  W
vs. Bethune Cookman  W
@ Indiana  L
vs. Presbyterian  W
vs. Kansas  L
vs. Louisville / Tennessee L
vs. Charleston Southern  W
vs. Kansas State  L
vs. UTEP  W
vs. Wisconsin  W
vs. North Dakota W
vs. Buffalo  W
vs. Southern  W
@ St. Johns  L
vs. Xavier W
@ Creighton  W
vs. Seton Hall W
@ Georgetown  W
vs. Providence  W
vs. Depaul W
@ Xavier L
@ Butler W
vs. St. Johns  W
vs. Villanova  W
@ Depaul  W
vs. Butler  W
@ Providence  W
@ Villanova L
vs. Creighton  W
@ Seton Hall  W
vs. Georgetown W

Non conf  9-4
BE  15-3
Overall 24-7

BET 2-1
#4 seed
S16 loss

vs. UMBC  W
vs. Bethune Cookman  W
@ Indiana  W
vs. Presbyterian  W
vs. Kansas (N)  L
vs. Louisville / Tennessee (N)  L
vs. Charleston Southern  W
vs. Kansas State  L
vs. UTEP  W
vs. Wisconsin  W
vs. North Dakota  W
vs. Buffalo  W
vs. Southern W
@ St. Johns  L
vs. Xavier  W
@ Creighton   W
vs. Seton Hall  W
@ Georgetown   L
vs. Providence  W
vs. Depaul  W
@ Xavier  W
@ Butler L
vs. St. Johns  W
vs. Villanova L
@ Depaul  W
vs. Butler  W
@ Providence  L
@ Villanova L
vs. Creighton  W
@ Seton Hall  W
vs. Georgetown  W

10-3 Non-conference
12-6 Conference (2nd)
1-1 BET
5 Seed (round of 32)

vs. UMBC  W
vs. Bethune Cookman  W
@ Indiana  W
vs. Presbyterian  W
vs. Kansas (N)  L
vs. Louisville / Tennessee (N)  W
vs. Charleston Southern  W
vs. Kansas State  L
vs. UTEP  W
vs. Wisconsin  W
vs. North Dakota W
vs. Buffalo  W
vs. Southern W
@ St. Johns  L
vs. Xavier  W
@ Creighton   W
vs. Seton Hall  W
@ Georgetown   W
vs. Providence  W
vs. Depaul  W
@ Xavier  L
@ Butler L
vs. St. Johns  W
vs. Villanova W
@ Depaul  W
vs. Butler  W
@ Providence  L
@ Villanova L
vs. Creighton  W
@ Seton Hall  W
vs. Georgetown  W

11-2 Non-conference
13-5 Conference (2nd)
2-1 BET
26-8 Overall

5 Seed (Lose in Sweet 16)

Hope the people who are bullish on them are correct. I'm squarely in "prove to me you can guard anyone" mode.

vs. UMBC  W
vs. Bethune Cookman  W
@ Indiana  L
vs. Presbyterian  W
vs. Kansas (N)  L
vs. Louisville / Tennessee (N)  W
vs. Charleston Southern  W
vs. Kansas State  L
vs. UTEP  W
vs. Wisconsin  W
vs. North Dakota W
vs. Buffalo  W
vs. Southern W
@ St. Johns  L
vs. Xavier  W
@ Creighton   L
vs. Seton Hall  W
@ Georgetown   W
vs. Providence  W
vs. Depaul  W
@ Xavier  L
@ Butler L
vs. St. Johns  W
vs. Villanova L
@ Depaul  W
vs. Butler  L
@ Providence  L
@ Villanova L
vs. Creighton  W
@ Seton Hall  W
vs. Georgetown  W

10-3 Non-Con
10-8 BE
1-1 BET

21-12 overall

This is one optimistic group. Everyone has us winning vs UW. They are generally ranked above us, have Haap )1st all-A and Davison, and most impt are playing at home. We can win, but no season ever passes with us winning every game that we should win. I like the 25-9 prediction. Then 1 loss in the BE tourney and loss in the S16

Quote from: harryp on October 17, 2018, 08:41:31 PM
This is one optimistic group. Everyone has us winning vs UW. They are generally ranked above us, have Haap )1st all-A and Davison, and most impt are playing at home. We can win, but no season ever passes with us winning every game that we should win. I like the 25-9 prediction. Then 1 loss in the BE tourney and loss in the S16

Umm - you do know that the game is at the FiFo, right?  Sure, there will be red sweaters there, but MU students will be in the student section.

Quote from: harryp on October 17, 2018, 08:41:31 PM
This is one optimistic group. Everyone has us winning vs UW. They are generally ranked above us, have Haap )1st all-A and Davison, and most impt are playing at home. We can win, but no season ever passes with us winning every game that we should win. I like the 25-9 prediction. Then 1 loss in the BE tourney and loss in the S16

They had Happ, Davison, and were at home last season as well, and we only beat them by about 56 points.

Quote from: harryp on October 17, 2018, 08:41:31 PM
This is one optimistic group. Everyone has us winning vs UW. They are generally ranked above us, have Haap )1st all-A and Davison, and most impt are playing at home. We can win, but no season ever passes with us winning every game that we should win. I like the 25-9 prediction. Then 1 loss in the BE tourney and loss in the S16

Wow, cue this thread turning into another MU v UW-Madison comparison thread.  I'm not sure how they are generally ranked above us based on this.
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=56680.0

Even taking Steele's with a grain of salt, they're not even showing up in "also considered".  Haap is a stud, yes, but the rest of that squad is relatively young, unproven, or just not that good.  We're at home, we won at the Kohl Hole last year, both team return a lot, but we also have significantly better newcomers.  Should be at least a 7 point favorite.

vs. UMBC  W
vs. Bethune Cookman  W
@ Indiana  L
vs. Presbyterian  W
vs. Kansas (N)  L
vs. Louisville / Tennessee (N)  W
vs. Charleston Southern  W
vs. Kansas State  W
vs. UTEP  W
vs. Wisconsin  W
vs. North Dakota W
vs. Buffalo  L
vs. Southern W
@ St. Johns  L
vs. Xavier  W
@ Creighton   W
vs. Seton Hall  W
@ Georgetown   W
vs. Providence  W
vs. Depaul  W
@ Xavier  L
@ Butler L
vs. St. Johns  L
vs. Villanova L
@ Depaul  W
vs. Butler  W
@ Providence  L
@ Villanova L
vs. Creighton  W
@ Seton Hall  W
vs. Georgetown  W

I'm kind of surprised by the number of people who think we will lose @ Indiana. I know they have a fantastic player in Langford, but why is everyone so pessimistic about that game in-particular?

Quote from: goldeneagle91114 on October 18, 2018, 10:17:57 AM
I'm kind of surprised by the number of people who think we will lose @ Indiana. I know they have a fantastic player in Langford, but why is everyone so pessimistic about that game in-particular?

assembly hall a tough place to play for Marquettes newcomers. Also Langford and Morgan are both pretty damn good themselves. We will see. Go Warriors

Quote from: goldeneagle91114 on October 18, 2018, 10:17:57 AM
I'm kind of surprised by the number of people who think we will lose @ Indiana. I know they have a fantastic player in Langford, but why is everyone so pessimistic about that game in-particular?

Road game in tough environment. Juwan Morgan is a legitimate all American candidate. Impressive recruiting class highlighted by Langford. Their success will depend on PG play. Not many tested PGs on that roster. If they answer that question they are a top 25 team.

Winnable game for sure. Would personally put them as 2-3 point favorites. If we win that takes some pressure off the rest of the non conference season

Quote from: goldeneagle91114 on October 18, 2018, 10:17:57 AM
I'm kind of surprised by the number of people who think we will lose @ Indiana. I know they have a fantastic player in Langford, but why is everyone so pessimistic about that game in-particular?

I've been thinking something similar, (for the record I picked us to win @I4) but I've been waiting for TAMU's preseason preview of them first.  The match-up reminds me a lot of the 15-16 Gavitt game, only with the roles reversed. 

The last time we had a 5* freshman, his third collegiate, and first high major, game was against an experienced and good three point shooting team.  The 5* freshman forced far too many bad shots, went 1-8 from the field, and we lost by 28 at home.  This year, Romeo Langford's third collegiate, and first high major, game will come against an experienced team, with two of the countries best 3 point shooters.  Will Langford be a better collegiate and professional player than Henry?  I think so, yes.  Does he have more talent around him than Henry did?  Again, yes, but I think there's a very real chance that so early in the season, we can catch him before he's truly adjusted to the college game.

It's also worth noting that all the preseason rankings, that we're reading too much into, have us ahead of them.

Quote from: Its DJOver on October 18, 2018, 10:33:31 AM
I've been thinking something similar, (for the record I picked us to win @I4) but I've been waiting for TAMU's preseason preview of them first.  The match-up reminds me a lot of the 15-16 Gavitt game, only with the roles reversed. 

The last time we had a 5* freshman, his third collegiate, and first high major, game was against an experienced and good three point shooting team.  The 5* freshman forced far too many bad shots, went 1-8 from the field, and we lost by 28 at home.  This year, Romeo Langford's third collegiate, and first high major, game will come against an experienced team, with two of the countries best 3 point shooters.  Will Langford be a better collegiate and professional player than Henry?  I think so, yes.  Does he have more talent around him than Henry did?  Again, yes, but I think there's a very real chance that so early in the season, we can catch him before he's truly adjusted to the college game.

It's also worth noting that all the preseason rankings, that we're reading too much into, have us ahead of them.

I feel very similarly about KU. They can't have much experience and while I'd be scared to play them in March I feel like we'd be able to catch them early on.

Quote from: Galway Eagle on October 18, 2018, 10:38:42 AM
I feel very similarly about KU. They can't have much experience and while I'd be scared to play them in March I feel like we'd be able to catch them early on.

The thing that scares me about Kansas, is that if Azubuike can play any D without fouling (easier to do against a 3 point heavy team), we have literally no one that can stop him at the other end.  I don't think it would be a blow out regardless, but it has 2017 Purdue written all over it, where Haas got whatever he wanted, and Matt looked a lot like a mid major center.

Quote from: Its DJOver on October 18, 2018, 10:46:17 AM
The thing that scares me about Kansas, is that if Azubuike can play any D without fouling (easier to do against a 3 point heavy team), we have literally no one that can stop him at the other end.  I don't think it would be a blow out regardless, but it has 2017 Purdue written all over it, where Haas got whatever he wanted, and Matt looked a lot like a mid major center.

Fair but also a month later Matt shut down Ethan Happ. Plus Theo has a year under him now. True there's nobody that can actually keep someone like him down but I don't think we're talking Purdue bad.

Quote from: Galway Eagle on October 18, 2018, 10:52:19 AM
Fair but also a month later Matt shut down Ethan Happ. Plus Theo has a year under him now. True there's nobody that can actually keep someone like him down but I don't think we're talking Purdue bad.

The thing is, that a lot of what 7'-2" Haas got was because he could shoot over 6'-10" Matt, or 6'-9" Theo.  Matt was able to stop 6'-10" Haap, but Azubuike is 7'-1".

Quote from: Marquette4life on October 18, 2018, 10:21:12 AM
assembly hall a tough place to play for Marquettes newcomers.

Ed Morrow would be one newcomer with some experience in Assembly Hall.
12pt 10reb 5blk - did not seem too fazed.

Quote from: Its DJOver on October 18, 2018, 10:46:17 AM
The thing that scares me about Kansas, is that if Azubuike can play any D without fouling (easier to do against a 3 point heavy team), we have literally no one that can stop him at the other end.  I don't think it would be a blow out regardless, but it has 2017 Purdue written all over it, where Haas got whatever he wanted, and Matt looked a lot like a mid major center.

Very valid.

(First thanks to JJJJJJJJJJ for setting this up. I gotta get my predictions in!)

Second I think Ed, Theo and Matt can hopefully atleast slow down Azubuike. Then if needed we throw Joey at him. Just keep rotating those guys on him, get him 3 fouls early and give us 2 fouls on Matt and Theo and Ed. And I'm fine with that actually.

Quote from: fjm on October 18, 2018, 12:28:13 PM
Very valid.

(First thanks to JJJJJJJJJJ for setting this up. I gotta get my predictions in!)

Second I think Ed, Theo and Matt can hopefully atleast slow down Azubuike. Then if needed we throw Joey at him. Just keep rotating those guys on him, get him 3 fouls early and give us 2 fouls on Matt and Theo and Ed. And I'm fine with that actually.

I think the front court depth is our only chance really.  Haas went 6-6 from the line against us last year, with both Matt and Theo fouling out.  Azubuike shoots them at 40%.  Once we're in the bonus, send Ike out there for 5 possessions, and tell him to foul him every time he touches the ball.  As much as Jay Bee is about to post that #ftsnomatta, hack-a strategies should be used on a player like that.  We'll still need Markus or Sam to go off, and get solid contributions from at least 2 others, but that's the only way I can see us getting past Kansas (fwiw, I picked us to lose this one).

Quote from: fjm on October 18, 2018, 12:28:13 PM
Very valid.

(First thanks to JJJJJJJJJJ for setting this up. I gotta get my predictions in!)

Second I think Ed, Theo and Matt can hopefully atleast slow down Azubuike. Then if needed we throw Joey at him. Just keep rotating those guys on him, get him 3 fouls early and give us 2 fouls on Matt and Theo and Ed. And I'm fine with that actually.

FYI, its just not Azubuike.  They have 6ft 9 DeSousa and 6ft9 transfer Dedric Lawson, who is a pre-season first team All American on various sites.  All have experience and it could be a nightmare for MU.  Matt may have two fouls in four minutes.  If Grimes plays to his potential as a mock draft top ten pick, along with Dotson, Kansas will be a tough out for many teams. 

They can't really consider putting De Sousa on the floor this season, can they?

Quote from: brewcity77 on October 18, 2018, 02:23:00 PM
They can't really consider putting De Sousa on the floor this season, can they?

Maybe like a Bowen situation from last year, but nothing so far and by the time the trials in NY are over, he will probably be in 2019 draft.  As of today, he's playing. 

Quote from: brewcity77 on October 18, 2018, 02:23:00 PM
They can't really consider putting De Sousa on the floor this season, can they?

Good point NYG.


Yeah man playing DeSousa is a risky move. One if I was a fan base or student base I would crush that kid every time he touched the ball. And second that's an easy vacation of W's if this gets any worse for Kansas.

Quote from: nyg on October 18, 2018, 02:31:02 PM
Maybe like a Bowen situation from last year, but nothing so far and by the time the trials in NY are over, he will probably be in 2019 draft.  As of today, he's playing.

It'll be over, but any game he plays in will be vacated. I don't think it's even a question. If Silvio De Sousa plays, every appearance he makes will be taken off the books. When you're a viable Final Four and National Title contender, why risk it? If he plays and you win, that banner is 100% coming down. Absolutely zero doubt about it.

Quote from: brewcity77 on October 18, 2018, 05:58:41 PM
It'll be over, but any game he plays in will be vacated. I don't think it's even a question. If Silvio De Sousa plays, every appearance he makes will be taken off the books. When you're a viable Final Four and National Title contender, why risk it? If he plays and you win, that banner is 100% coming down. Absolutely zero doubt about it.

I think the schools will risk it every time if they think the player is the difference between nothing and having a banner to take down in the first place. I don't think you will find a single Louisville fan who says they didn't win the 2013 national championship. I'm pretty sure the increased donations, enrollment, etc can't be taken back years later.

All that being said, I don't think De Sousa is that much of a difference maker on that team. He's a helluva player, but he might be the 4th or 5th guy off their bench. They are that deep.

Quote from: goldeneagle91114 on October 18, 2018, 10:17:57 AM
I'm kind of surprised by the number of people who think we will lose @ Indiana. I know they have a fantastic player in Langford, but why is everyone so pessimistic about that game in-particular?

Well It's Indiana....It's Indiana

vs. UMBC   W
vs. Bethune Cookman  W
@ Indiana   W
vs. Presbyterian   W
vs. Kansas (N)   L
vs. Louisville / Tennessee (N)   W
vs. Charleston Southern   W
vs. Kansas State   W
vs. UTEP   W
vs. Wisconsin  W
vs. North Dakota  W
vs. Buffalo  W
vs. Southern  W
@ St. Johns  L
vs. Xavier  W
@ Creighton   W
vs. Seton Hall  W
@ Georgetown  W
vs. Providence  W
vs. Depaul  W
@ Xavier  W
@ Butler  L
vs. St. Johns  W
vs. Villanova  W
@ Depaul  W
vs. Butler   W
@ Providence  L
@ Villanova   L
vs. Creighton  W
@ Seton Hall   W
vs. Georgetown  W

26 Ws

5 losses. Love it.
4 road losses, 1 neutral. Untouched at home.
Are we a #1 seed or did we fall to a #2?

Quote from: We R Final Four on October 20, 2018, 09:54:46 PM
5 losses. Love it.
4 road losses, 1 neutral. Untouched at home.
Are we a #1 seed or did we fall to a #2?

Depends on the scrimmage

I had a dream that we lost to UMBC last night....

Quote from: fjm on October 27, 2018, 07:32:44 AM
I had a dream that we lost to UMBC last night....

Signs that the off-season has gone too long

Quote from: fjm on October 27, 2018, 07:32:44 AM
I had a dream that we lost to UMBC last night....

You shouldn't have posted this.   Just cost us a seed line.

Quote from: fjm on October 27, 2018, 07:32:44 AM
I had a dream that we lost to UMBC last night....

That must be why we're #27, not ranked where we rightfully belong.   :)

Quote from: jsglow on October 28, 2018, 08:14:56 AM
That must be why we're #27, not ranked where we rightfully belong.   :)

I thought only teams ranked #1 lost to UMBC.

Quote from: brewcity77 on October 28, 2018, 10:19:49 AM
I thought only teams ranked #1 lost to UMBC.

Yes.  We got this!

Didn't want to start a new thread on this, but I rounded up some "media" members and got them on the record.

https://painttouches.com/2018/11/01/marquette-media-predictions-for-2018-19/ (https://painttouches.com/2018/11/01/marquette-media-predictions-for-2018-19/)

A tad optimistic to be sure, but on the whole a good exercise to see what the consensus is.

(https://painttouches.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/capture2.jpg)

I also recommend using the TRank tool to see what your predictions would mean in terms of NCAA seeds. http://barttorvik.com/teamcast.php?year=2019&team=Marquette (http://barttorvik.com/teamcast.php?year=2019&team=Marquette)

Quote from: Herman Cain on October 16, 2018, 05:47:54 PM
Assumes Greg Elliot sits out the entire season

Wvs. UMBC
Wvs. Bethune Cookman
L@ Indiana
Wvs. Presbyterian
Lvs. Kansas (N)
Wvs. Louisville / Tennessee (N)
Wvs. Charleston Southern
Wvs. Kansas State
Wvs. UTEP
Wvs. Wisconsin
Wvs. North Dakota
Wvs. Buffalo
Wvs. Southern
L@ St. Johns
Wvs. Xavier
W@ Creighton
Wvs. Seton Hall
L@ Georgetown
Wvs. Providence
Wvs. Depaul
L@ Xavier
L@ Butler
Wvs. St. Johns
Lvs. Villanova
W@ Depaul
Wvs. Butler
L@ Providence
L@ Villanova
Wvs. Creighton
W@ Seton Hall
Wvs. Georgetown

11-2 Non Conference
11-7 Conference
22-9 Regular Season
2-1 BET
L S16

40-0 if MVP Greg plays. C'mon Greg!!!

In other news ...

Lots and lots of folks predicted some pretty serious winning streaks during the course of the season. Don't y'all know that is absolutely impossible for Wojo to win 3 straight BE games?

vs. UMBC  W
vs. Bethune Cookman  W
@ Indiana  L
vs. Presbyterian  W
vs. Kansas (N)  L
vs. Louisville / Tennessee (N)  W
vs. Charleston Southern  W
vs. Kansas State  L
vs. UTEP  W
vs. Wisconsin  W
vs. North Dakota W
vs. Buffalo  W
vs. Southern W
@ St. Johns  L
vs. Xavier  W
@ Creighton   W
vs. Seton Hall  W
@ Georgetown   W
vs. Providence  W
vs. Depaul  W
@ Xavier  L
@ Butler L
vs. St. Johns  W
vs. Villanova L
@ Depaul  W
vs. Butler  W
@ Providence  L
@ Villanova L
vs. Creighton  W
@ Seton Hall  W
vs. Georgetown  W

10-3 Non-Con
12-6 BE
2-1 BET

24-10 overall

vs. UMBC  W
vs. Bethune Cookman  W
@ Indiana  W
vs. Presbyterian  W
vs. Kansas (N)  L
vs. Louisville / Tennessee (N)  W
vs. Charleston Southern  W
vs. Kansas State  L
vs. UTEP  W
vs. Wisconsin  W
vs. North Dakota W
vs. Buffalo  L
vs. Southern W
@ St. Johns  L
vs. Xavier  W
@ Creighton   W
vs. Seton Hall  W
@ Georgetown   W
vs. Providence  L
vs. Depaul  W
@ Xavier  W
@ Butler L
vs. St. Johns  W
vs. Villanova L
@ Depaul  W
vs. Butler  W
@ Providence  W
@ Villanova L
vs. Creighton  W
@ Seton Hall  W
vs. Georgetown  W

10-3 Non-Con
13-5 BE
2-1 BET

25-9 overall

vs. UMBC  W
vs. Bethune Cookman  W
@ Indiana  L
vs. Presbyterian  W
vs. Kansas (N)  L
vs. Louisville / Tennessee (N)  L
vs. Charleston Southern  W
vs. Kansas State  W
vs. UTEP  W
vs. Wisconsin  L
vs. North Dakota W
vs. Buffalo  W
vs. Southern W
@ St. Johns  W
vs. Xavier  L
@ Creighton   W
vs. Seton Hall  W
@ Georgetown   L
vs. Providence  W
vs. Depaul  W
@ Xavier  L
@ Butler W
vs. St. Johns  W
vs. Villanova W
@ Depaul  W
vs. Butler  W
@ Providence  L
@ Villanova L
vs. Creighton  W
@ Seton Hall  L
vs. Georgetown  W

9-4 Non-Con
12-6 BE
2-1 BET

23-11 overall

vs. UMBC  W
vs. Bethune Cookman  W
@ Indiana  L
vs. Presbyterian  W
vs. Kansas (N)  L
vs. Louisville / Tennessee (N)  W
vs. Charleston Southern  W
vs. Kansas State  W
vs. UTEP  W
vs. Wisconsin  W
vs. North Dakota W
vs. Buffalo  W
vs. Southern W
@ St. Johns  L
vs. Xavier  W
@ Creighton   W
vs. Seton Hall  W
@ Georgetown   L
vs. Providence  W
vs. Depaul  W
@ Xavier  W
@ Butler L
vs. St. Johns  W
vs. Villanova W
@ Depaul  W
vs. Butler  W
@ Providence  L
@ Villanova L
vs. Creighton  W
@ Seton Hall  W
vs. Georgetown  W

11-2 Non-Con
13-5 BE
2-1 BET

26-8 Overall

25-9 overall

No sked predictions, game by game, but some thoughts:

http://latenighthoops.com/quick-random-preseason-thoughts-on-marquette/#.W-HraaRMGEc

vs. UMBC W
vs. Bethune Cookman W
@ Indiana L
vs. Presbyterian W
vs. Kansas (N) L
vs. Louisville / Tennessee (N) W
vs. Charleston Southern W
vs. Kansas State W
vs. UTEP W
vs. Wisconsin W
vs. North Dakota W
vs. Buffalo W
vs. Southern W
@ St. Johns L
vs. Xavier W
@ Creighton W
vs. Seton Hall W
@ Georgetown W
vs. Providence W
vs. Depaul W
@ Xavier L
@ Butler L
vs. St. Johns W
vs. Villanova L
@ Depaul W
vs. Butler W
@ Providence W
@ Villanova L
vs. Creighton W
@ Seton Hall W
vs. Georgetown W

24-7 Overall
13-5 BE
2nd place BE
Lose in BET Final
6 seed
Sweet 16

vs UMBC - W
vs Bethune Cookman - W
@ Indiana - W
vs Presbyterian - W
vs Kansas (N) - L
vs Louisville/Tennessee - W
vs Charleston Southern - W
vs Kansas State - W
vs UTEP - W
vs Wisconsin - W
vs North Dakota - W
vs Buffalo - W
vs Southern - W
@ St. Johns - L
vs Xavier - W
@ Creighton - L
vs Seton Hall - W
@ Georgetown - W
vs Providence - W
vs Depaul - W
@ Xavier - W
@ Butler - L
vs St Johns - W
vs Villanova - W
@ Depaul - W
vs Butler - W
@ Providence - W
@ Villanova - L
vs Creighton - W
@ Seton Hall - W
vs Georgetown - W

Head into conference play 12-1
Conference: 14-4
2nd place in conference
Undefeated at home
Lose in the BE tourney semifinals
3 seed in the tourney (Would've been a 2 if advanced to BE title game)
Shock everyone and reach the Final 4
Lose to 1 seed UNC
Final record: 31-7

Quote from: fjm on November 01, 2018, 01:17:39 PM
vs. UMBC  W
vs. Bethune Cookman  W
@ Indiana  W
vs. Presbyterian  W
vs. Kansas (N)  L
vs. Louisville / Tennessee (N)  W
vs. Charleston Southern  W
vs. Kansas State  L
vs. UTEP  W
vs. Wisconsin  W
vs. North Dakota W
vs. Buffalo  L
vs. Southern W
@ St. Johns  L
vs. Xavier  W
@ Creighton   W
vs. Seton Hall  W
@ Georgetown   W
vs. Providence  L
vs. Depaul  W
@ Xavier  W
@ Butler L
vs. St. Johns  W
vs. Villanova L
@ Depaul  W
vs. Butler  W
@ Providence  W
@ Villanova L
vs. Creighton  W
@ Seton Hall  W
vs. Georgetown  W

10-3 Non-Con
13-5 BE
2-1 BET

25-9 overall

Looking at this, and where we are now. I am still hoping for a 7 seed or better in the tourney. 13-5 is still doable in this years BEast I believe.

Tower's hoopin' of other threads made me wonder about this one. I had called every game correctly until X this weekend. J5 still perfect.

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on October 16, 2018, 02:42:08 PM
vs. UMBC W
vs. Bethune Cookman W
@ Indiana L
vs. Presbyterian W
vs. Kansas (N) L
vs. Louisville / Tennessee (N) W (Louisville)
vs. Charleston Southern W
vs. Kansas State W
vs. UTEP W
vs. Wisconsin W
vs. North Dakota W
vs. Buffalo W
vs. Southern W
@ St. Johns L
vs. Xavier W
@ Creighton W
vs. Seton Hall W
@ Georgetown W
vs. Providence W
vs. Depaul W
@ Xavier W
@ Butler W
vs. St. Johns W
vs. Villanova L
@ Depaul W
vs. Butler W
@ Providence L
@ Villanova L
vs. Creighton W
@ Seton Hall W
vs. Georgetown W

Non-con: 11-2
Big East: 14-4

25-6 heading into the BET, comfortably inside the top 15, and looking at a 3 seed.

Not to brag or anything, but I am perfect so far! 

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 30, 2019, 01:46:28 PM
Not to brag or anything, but I am perfect so far!

Stay hot kid!

Hope you stay perfect for 2 more games! Then you can mess it up