We're at least going to be receiving one vote!
https://eu.app.com/story/sports/college/2018/10/16/associated-press-top-25-mens-basketball-poll-carinos-ballot/1655883002/
When does it come out?
October 22
He also picked Markus Howard as a preseason All-American (3rd team).
Quote from: Galway Eagle on October 16, 2018, 10:28:07 AM
We're at least going to be receiving one vote!
https://eu.app.com/story/sports/college/2018/10/16/associated-press-top-25-mens-basketball-poll-carinos-ballot/1655883002/
2 votes! or is it 2 points?
Quote from: Galway Eagle on October 16, 2018, 10:28:07 AM
We're at least going to be receiving one vote!
https://eu.app.com/story/sports/college/2018/10/16/associated-press-top-25-mens-basketball-poll-carinos-ballot/1655883002/
So at least we know we will be in the others receiving votes category.
Yay # 36!!!!!!!!!!
Polls are retrospective rather than prospective. Especially this time of year.
We will surprise many.
The few. The proud. The Warrior Confident.
https://twitter.com/FS1/status/834228580921987076
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/2018/10/17/ben-steeles-preseason-ap-top-25-mens-basketball-ballot/1670866002/
I'll even provide the grain of salt
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Quote from: LoudMouth on October 17, 2018, 07:20:36 PM
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/2018/10/17/ben-steeles-preseason-ap-top-25-mens-basketball-ballot/1670866002/
I'll even provide the grain of salt
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what is this article sayin
Quote from: Marquette4life on October 17, 2018, 07:37:57 PM
what is this article sayin
Ben Steel has us at 24. Meaning that we will at the worst be receiving 4 votes come Monday at 11AM. Obviously the preseason polls are a complete crap shoot but our boys can never have too much confident going into the season and going into Indiana
Quote from: LoudMouth on October 17, 2018, 07:57:52 PM
Ben Steel has us at 24. Meaning that we will at the worst be receiving 4 votes come Monday at 11AM. Obviously the preseason polls are a complete crap shoot but our boys can never have too much confident going into the season and going into Indiana
Always good to get a couple of guys in our corner. Would not be surprised to see most of the Big East press in our camp early on. Hopefully we get out of the gate strong and build on it.
http://www.espn.com/espn/dickvitale/story/_/id/24985081/dick-vitale-preseason-top-40
Also this...make that 8 votes
Finding it difficult to wait until Monday
Quote from: LoudMouth on October 17, 2018, 09:36:04 PM
http://www.espn.com/espn/dickvitale/story/_/id/24985081/dick-vitale-preseason-top-40
Also this...make that 8 votes
Finding it difficult to wait until Monday
Is he an AP voter?
Quote from: Galway Eagle on October 17, 2018, 10:33:05 PM
Is he an AP voter?
Yes indeed. Very strange crew of voters..bunch of local beat writers
Has anyone seen a voter put out his list and NOT include us?
@ZachOsterman
First AP ballot of the year. COMMENCE THE YELLING.
1 Kentucky
2 Kansas
3 Gonzaga
4 Duke
5 Tenn
6 UNC
7 Nevada
8 UVa
9 Nova
10 Mich St
11 Auburn
12 Kansas State
13 Cuse
14 FSU
15 Va Tech
16 WVU
17 Oregon
18 UCLA
19 Miss St
20 Wisco
21 Clemson
22 IU
23 Michigan
24 Marq
25 LSU
Quote from: jsglow on October 18, 2018, 06:42:26 AM
Has anyone seen a voter put out his list and NOT include us?
I have not. But most have us about 20 spots too low.
For context, last year the #25 team in the AP preseason poll received 130 points. The number 20 team received 362, and top ten teams were about 1,000 or more.
One of the things to consider is that most (if not all) AP voters will expect to include more than one BEast team in their initial poll. For many, we'll be that second choice. I suppose St. John's is the other candidate.
Quote from: Marqus Howard on October 18, 2018, 08:24:51 AM
For context, last year the #25 team in the AP preseason poll received 130 points. The number 20 team received 362, and top ten teams were about 1,000 or more.
#donedeal
If I'm correct the AP poll system allows for a situation where everybody votes you in the 24 or 25 slot but you don't actually appear right? If there was a team that a bunch of voters disagreed on and some had them as high as say 10 and other left them out that team could actually jump the unanimous pick.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on October 18, 2018, 09:21:16 AM
If I'm correct the AP poll system allows for a situation where everybody votes you in the 24 or 25 slot but you don't actually appear right? If there was a team that a bunch of voters disagreed on and some had them as high as say 10 and other left them out that team could actually jump the unanimous pick.
It could happen, but seems unlikely. Similarly, being named on every ballot could also inflate our rating if there's a great disparity in who the bottom 6-7 teams are but we're consistently getting points.
Quote from: jsglow on October 18, 2018, 08:34:48 AM
One of the things to consider is that most (if not all) AP voters will expect to include more than one BEast team in their initial poll. For many, we'll be that second choice. I suppose St. John's is the other candidate.
Just to clear this up in case somebody is confused by your wording ...
There is absolutely no requirement that AP voters include teams from any conference.
I'm pretty sure you're saying that it's reasonable for folks to assume that most AP voters will include more than one Big East school, and I concur.
Quote from: Marqus Howard on October 18, 2018, 08:24:51 AM
For context, last year the #25 team in the AP preseason poll received 130 points. The number 20 team received 362, and top ten teams were about 1,000 or more.
Expand your context to add how many AP voters there are (65), and how many total points can be extrapolated from 10 points from four voters in the total number of ballots (162.5), and how that adds to the conversation given the partial context you provided.
Quote from: MU82 on October 18, 2018, 09:39:31 AM
Just to clear this up in case somebody is confused by your wording ...
There is absolutely no requirement that AP voters include teams from any conference.
I'm pretty sure you're saying that it's reasonable for folks to assume that most AP voters will include more than one Big East school, and I concur.
This.
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 18, 2018, 07:31:23 AM
I have not. But most have us about 20 spots too low.
I was thinking about 23 spots too low to be fair!
I very seldom get exciting about Ranking. To borrow from someone, It Practice, Just Practice.
I was surprised to see Wisco in at 20 and MU down to 24. I think we're a little low for a preseason poll, and Wisco is way too high. This voter may be proven right post season after both teams have a chance to prove themselves..., time will tell, but sure surprised that he ranks them as he did now.
Bozich with Marquette at 22 on his ballot.
His article is great.
QuoteWhat I don't like: The Golden Eagles' DNA shows only 0.0001 percent obsession with defense
Ranked Bucky at 23.
I like it when our lads are ranked. It's a small thing, but I like when I watch ESPN and we're included in the frequently-updated Top 25 crawl at the bottom of the screen. I'm not sure it will ever help us get a single recruit, but it sure won't hurt.
I especially like it when we win (obviously). If I'm watching something on ESPN and somebody else is with me, every time they show the score I go, "Marquette wins!" It's dopey, sure ... guilty as charged!
Mark Berman (Virginia writer) And Chris Murray (Nevada writer) both did not include Marquette in their ballots.
Quote from: mubb3434 on October 21, 2018, 09:08:26 PM
Mark Berman (Virginia writer) And Chris Murray (Nevada writer) both did not include Marquette in their ballots.
Berman is the Va Tech writer so he is tainted.
Quote from: Herman Cain on October 21, 2018, 09:40:01 PM
Berman is the Va Tech writer so he is tainted.
Of the many, many, many ridiculous things you've said over the years, this is in the top 10.
Is the Nevada beat writer also tainted?
Quote from: MU82 on October 21, 2018, 10:12:47 PM
Of the many, many, many ridiculous things you've said over the years, this is in the top 10.
Is the Nevada beat writer also tainted?
I can think of at least ten worse.
Quote from: Herman Cain on October 21, 2018, 09:40:01 PM
Berman is the Va Tech writer so he is tainted.
Haha. Well done!
Saw three this AM that don't have us. I'm starting to doubt we end up ranked preseason
I'd almost prefer being "recieving votes". Make them hungry.
Quote from: fjm on October 22, 2018, 06:29:25 AM
I'd almost prefer being "recieving votes". Make them hungry.
If this team needs to look at preseason rankings to be motivated, then I'm concerned. Should be plenty of motivation from within, especially with missing the tournament last year.
Quote from: fjm on October 22, 2018, 06:29:25 AM
I'd almost prefer being "recieving votes". Make them hungry.
I believe this is the equivalent to "we cooled on him" in recruiting
Quote from: Galway Eagle on October 22, 2018, 05:47:04 AM
Saw three this AM that don't have us. I'm starting to doubt we end up ranked preseason
Saw us at 19 this morning with first time voter Josh Vitale so there are two sides to the coin.
My guess is we are just oustside at 27
Quote from: LoudMouth on October 22, 2018, 07:28:30 AM
I believe this is the equivalent to "we cooled on him" in recruiting
Ha, I think you're right
I think we'll be 26, first out, then enter when we win at Indiana
Guessing unranked.
Forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do.
Quote from: Herman Cain on October 21, 2018, 10:32:54 PM
I can think of at least ten worse.
You're probably right, 9-9-9. Management regrets the error.
Quick twitter scroll: 3 more people have MU in top 25.
19, 23 and 24 respectively.
We'll know soon enough!
In paying homage to the Jordan Brand, I say #23.
what time does it come out
11AM
Quote from: Galway Eagle on October 22, 2018, 10:04:08 AM
central?
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Jon Nyatawa (Creighton writer) has us at 21....going to be very close
Quote from: LoudMouth on October 22, 2018, 10:13:40 AM
Jon Nyatawa (Creighton writer) has us at 21....going to be very close
Love to see the Big East writers circling the wagons.
Question: Do we hang a banner if we are Pre-Season Top 25?
Quote from: Sultan of South Wayne on October 22, 2018, 10:47:25 AM
Question: Do we not hang a banner if we are Pre-Season Top 25?
Fixed.
Quote from: Sultan of South Wayne on October 22, 2018, 10:47:25 AM
Question: Do we hang a banner if we are Pre-Season Top 25?
I think everyone is waiting on our secret scrimmage performance first.
While pre season polls do not mean much to me, I would be very happy to see MU on the list this year. It has been too long and fingers crossed.
Not updated yet, but I assume it will be here:
https://collegebasketball.ap.org/poll (https://collegebasketball.ap.org/poll)
Bummer! #27.
Season over. 27th ranked. 200 points from ranked.
AP's page is completely eff'd. Idiots screwed up - have crap in there from a year ago.
Wait - why do the rankings only go to 22? Are we really 24, not 27?
Seems like some dysfunction at AP
Oh damn. Haha I didn't even count. Just stopped seeing big logos and assumed that was #25.
Jk. No we are number 27.
There are 2 15's and 2 19's
Quote from: TheREALwrk on October 22, 2018, 11:10:16 AM
Wait - why do the rankings only go to 22? Are we really 24, not 27?
Look through the rankings, some are tied. there are a total of 25 ranked teams
John Feinstein didn't have us. Seth Davis had us 22.
There are 25 teams there, just teams tied at 7, 15 & 19 even though they don't have the same amount of votes. 22 SMC also has more votes than 20 TCU & 21 Michigan...
Definitely screwed up but we are still on the outside looking in
Quote from: LoudMouth on October 22, 2018, 11:15:36 AM
There are 25 teams there, just teams tied at 7, 15 & 19 even though they don't have the same amount of votes. 22 SMC also has more votes than 20 TCU & 21 Michigan...
Definitely screwed up but we are still on the outside looking in
Some of the tied teams are last year's - eg NW, Minn
Buncha idiots over there
Let's take it to Indiana right away and get ranked. Would be nice to go into the match against KU as a top 25 team that's got some swagger
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 22, 2018, 11:14:42 AM
John Feinstein didn't have us. Seth Davis had us 22.
Feinstein is a corrupt Georgetown hack.
Quote from: Herman Cain on October 22, 2018, 11:20:07 AM
Feinstein is a corrupt Georgetown hack.
Feinstein is pure hot garbage.
Jon Rothstein had Saint John's at 25 but no Marquette.
BJ reporting NW and MINN are from last year?
There is definitely something wrong happening. Seems as if they MINN and NW are either in peoples ballots at 15&18 or not at all. That big of a swing wouldn't be possible.
It is updated....we are still at 27
If we beat Northwestern in the secret scrimagge we should move up immediately!
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Quote from: LoudMouth on October 22, 2018, 11:29:13 AM
There is definitely something wrong happening. Seems as if they MINN and NW are either in peoples ballots at 15&18 or not at all. That big of a swing wouldn't be possible.
Stunning allegations of Reuters hacking the AP ballots.
Stay safe, people.
Quote from: Herman Cain on October 22, 2018, 11:20:07 AM
Feinstein is a corrupt Georgetown hack.
I thought Bobby Knight knocked him off years ago?
When do USA Today rankings come out?
I don't get the PAC 12 love. Oregon has impressive freshmen but they were an NIT team last season and lose a lot. UCLA barely made the tournament, lost a lot and have lost two of their good freshmen to injury. Washington was barely an NIT team. Oregon is a tournament team but I'm not sure the other two will be. Maybe if they feast on a weak PAC 12
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on October 22, 2018, 12:48:40 PM
I don't get the PAC 12 love. Oregon has impressive freshmen but they were an NIT team last season and lose a lot. UCLA barely made the tournament, lost a lot and have lost two of their good freshmen to injury. Washington was barely an NIT team. Oregon is a tournament team but I'm not sure the other two will be. Maybe if they feast on a weak PAC 12
I don't know when the deadline for submission is but the washington love could be because of the win they had over Nevada
Conference break-outs by these MSM geniuses.
ACC= 7
SEC=5
B12=4
B1G=3
PAC=3
WC=1
MW=1
BE=1
So the 2nd place BE Team is worse than the 7th ACC team? I am not at all surprised by the football conference bias as it is in place every pre-season, but this is an example of the ills of group think. And, Indiana may have the biggest gripe being left out. Notre Dame got votes?
Give me the statistical, predictive rankings every time.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on October 22, 2018, 12:54:14 PM
Conference break-outs by these MSM geniuses.
ACC= 7
SEC=5
B12=4
B1G=3
PAC=3
WC=1
MW=1
BE=1
So the 2nd place BE Team is worse than the 7th ACC team? I am not at all surprised by the football conference bias as it is in place every pre-season, but this is an example of the ills of group think. And, Indiana may have the biggest gripe being left out. Notre Dame got votes?
Give me the statistical, predictive rankings every time.
Big East is a conference dominated by upperclassmen. So when players graduate, the low information pollsters automatically assume the team is rebuilding. The pollsters have not been following the recruiting/transfers as close as the fans and don't have a clue what is in the roster pipeline. In the Big East there is all ways a next wave of quality talent coming through. Big East has to keep producing teams having 10 or more wins in the Non Conference to get recognized. The classic example of this voter logic this year is Xavier which got all of two points in the initial go round. Will be interesting to see how things go in the Coaches poll.
AP preseason ranking no matta
we have 6 non conf games on the schedule against teams at least receiving votes in the preseason poll - wow - one hell of a schedule - lets do IT (Kansas, KSU, Ville/Tenn, Buffalo, Wisconsin, IU)
Quote from: CAGASS24 on October 22, 2018, 02:36:46 PM
we have 6 non conf games on the schedule against teams at least receiving votes in the preseason poll - wow - one hell of a schedule - lets do IT (Kansas, KSU, Ville/Tenn, Buffalo, Wisconsin, IU)
4 of those in first 8 by Dec.1...if we go 8-0 (yes its a real possibility) we'd be ranked top 5....I know rankings are an illusion but that would be Fun!
my Priorities:
* Get in Big Dance
* Do well in Big Dance
* Win BE
* Do well in BE
* Beat UW
* Quality Wins (especially when I'm at Fiserv :) )
* Win BET
* Rankings
To clarify what I said earlier. I know people will think I'm being dumb, and I wish we were preseason ranked. But I'm also kind of glad we are not ranked and just on the outside.
Is this team going to be good? Yes I think so. Do they deserve to be ranked top 25? Not really.
I hope the guys see this and get a wiff of top 25 and it motivates them a bit more.
Quote from: fjm on October 22, 2018, 03:35:23 PM
To clarify what I said earlier. I know people will think I'm being dumb, and I wish we were preseason ranked. But I'm also kind of glad we are not ranked and just on the outside.
Is this team going to be good? Yes I think so. Do they deserve to be ranked top 25? Not really.
I hope the guys see this and get a wiff of top 25 and it motivates them a bit more.
I don't think it's a matter of us deserving it vs do the teams ahead deserve it more? Do you really think that 7 teams in the ACC are better than us?
WE'RE ALMOST NO. 1 (in others receiving votes)!
WE'RE ALMOST NO. 1 (in others receiving votes)!
Quote from: MU82 on October 22, 2018, 03:52:38 PM
WE'RE ALMOST NO. 1 (in others receiving votes)!
WE'RE ALMOST NO. 1 (in others receiving votes)!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8mOYw0bBe0
Quote from: MUBigDance on October 22, 2018, 03:25:06 PM
4 of those in first 8 by Dec.1...if we go 8-0 (yes its a real possibility) we'd be ranked top 5....I know rankings are an illusion but that would be Fun!
my Priorities:
* Get in Big Dance
* Do well in Big Dance
* Win BE
* Do well in BE
* Beat UW
* Quality Wins (especially when I'm at Fiserv :) )
* Win BET
* Rankings
I'd say it's a possibility.......but not a real possibility ......unless you consider winning the lottery as a real possibility.
The chances are very remote at best.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on October 22, 2018, 12:54:14 PM
Conference break-outs by these MSM geniuses.
ACC= 7
SEC=5
B12=4
B1G=3
PAC=3
WC=1
MW=1
BE=1
So the 2nd place BE Team is worse than the 7th ACC team? I am not at all surprised by the football conference bias as it is in place every pre-season, but this is an example of the ills of group think. And, Indiana may have the biggest gripe being left out. Notre Dame got votes?
Give me the statistical, predictive rankings every time.
Honestly, I don't think the 7th best ACC team is better than the 2nd best Big East team....but I do think they are better than the 3rd best Big East team, and may be better than the best P12 team. The rankings will be more balanced at the end of the season because conferences will beat up on each other, but I do think while the Big East and PAC 12 are down, the ACC and SEC are up.
Who cares?
I'm more concerned about the end of the season.
Quote from: dgies9156 on October 22, 2018, 05:54:05 PM
Who cares?
I think caring about how your team is perceived at this - or any - point is reasonable.
I think many of the voters just don't understand how the pieces fit together for us yet. A number of the writers are not great basketball minds who struggle to cover their own team.
Quote from: Jay Bee on October 22, 2018, 06:10:14 PM
I think caring about how your team is perceived at this - or any - point is reasonable.
I think many of the voters just don't understand how the pieces fit together for us yet. A number of the writers are not great basketball minds who struggle to cover their own team.
Case in point supporting this notion, our former MU beat writer Michael Hunt. Hope he is having fun in South Carolina.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on October 22, 2018, 05:19:32 PM
Honestly, I don't think the 7th best ACC team is better than the 2nd best Big East team....but I do think they are better than the 3rd best Big East team, and may be better than the best P12 team. The rankings will be more balanced at the end of the season because conferences will beat up on each other, but I do think while the Big East and PAC 12 are down, the ACC and SEC are up.
The 7th best team in the ACC was 10-8 in league play last year (Buzz). Worthy of an NCAA bid but not a Top 25 ranking. Or is this case, Top 17.
That's the problem with these polls...all the writers submit their biased ballots but when tallied, no one looks at average of all these hacks summed. Thus, we have 7 out of the top 17 in the ACC which doesn't make any sense.
How much effort do you think most of these writers are putting into pre-season polls?
Duzant Nads have a vote or iz dat just four the general election, hey?
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on October 22, 2018, 08:53:52 PM
The 7th best team in the ACC was 10-8 in league play last year (Buzz). Worthy of an NCAA bid but not a Top 25 ranking. Or is this case, Top 17.
That's the problem with these polls...all the writers submit their biased ballots but when tallied, no one looks at average of all these hacks summed. Thus, we have 7 out of the top 17 in the ACC which doesn't make any sense.
That's kind of my point. Rankings during the regular season aren't actually about what team is the best, they're about what a team has done to earn the ranking. So even if say Clemson is a better team than a Marquette they will be ranked below them by the end of the season because they play in a tougher conference.
Preseason, no one has done anything to earn rankings, so writers are left to subjectively rank the teams. There's no need to balance the conferences. Personally, I do think 7 of the top 25 teams this season are from the ACC. I also think 7 of the top 25 teams are from the SEC, leaving only 11 spots for everyone else. By the end of the season, there won't be 14 ACC/SEC teams ranked because they will cannibalize each other, but that doesn't mean they aren't the best teams.
KenPom actually says that there are 8 ACC teams in the top 25 to go along with 1 Big East team.
Quote from: Herman Cain on October 22, 2018, 06:28:35 PM
Case in point supporting this notion, our former MU beat writer Mike Hunt. Hope he is having fun in South Carolina.
Just for clarity, I'm pretty sure he went by Michael Hunt.
Quote from: D'Lo Brown on October 22, 2018, 10:32:53 PM
Just for clarity, I'm pretty sure he went by Michael Hunt.
Noted and Changed.
Ugh... go away for a day, and already people are starting in on this #27 garbage.
Marquette IS NOT ranked #27. Please stop trying to rank teams from the RV category because not only does it make us seem desperate, but it shows a clear lack of understanding for mathematical concepts.
Again, the example here that regardless of who they put as their top 25, if all 65 voters unanimously agree that Marquette is the #26 team, how many votes would MU receive in this poll?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 22, 2018, 09:01:19 PM
Duzant Nads have a vote or iz dat just four the general election, hey?
Eye gunna bee rightin in ewe, oompa loompa.
Quote from: Benny B on October 23, 2018, 12:21:23 PM
Ugh... go away for a day, and already people are starting in on this #27 garbage.
Marquette IS NOT ranked #27. Please stop trying to rank teams from the RV category because not only does it make us seem desperate, but it shows a clear lack of understanding for mathematical concepts.
Again, the example here that regardless of who they put as their top 25, if all 65 voters unanimously agree that Marquette is the #26 team, how many votes would MU receive in this poll?
Ummm, while I could agree with the logic and view that MU is not ranked (it is the Top 25, so there is no 27th). I believe the polls work as a weighted average in all sports. So while we can all agree that the 25th ranked team is Top 25, many posters may not have them in their top 25 and a few voters could sway the poll by voting them significantly higher than 25. The overall point is that the system used to establish the Top 25 would be the same to claim MU 27th (even if this was a Top 26 and every voter put MU at 26th, there is no guaranty they would be 26th). No gap in logic that I can see but one could make the argument the poll system is flawed.
Anyone know when USA Today Coaches poll comes out?
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on October 22, 2018, 10:00:05 PM
That's kind of my point. Rankings during the regular season aren't actually about what team is the best, they're about what a team has done to earn the ranking. So even if say Clemson is a better team than a Marquette they will be ranked below them by the end of the season because they play in a tougher conference.
Preseason, no one has done anything to earn rankings, so writers are left to subjectively rank the teams. There's no need to balance the conferences. Personally, I do think 7 of the top 25 teams this season are from the ACC. I also think 7 of the top 25 teams are from the SEC, leaving only 11 spots for everyone else. By the end of the season, there won't be 14 ACC/SEC teams ranked because they will cannibalize each other, but that doesn't mean they aren't the best teams.
KenPom actually says that there are 8 ACC teams in the top 25 to go along with 1 Big East team.
Not a big fan of Pomeroy's methodological changes this year...
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on October 23, 2018, 10:06:00 PM
Not a big fan of Pomeroy's methodological changes this year...
Interesting, what were those changes?
Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on October 24, 2018, 05:38:00 AM
Interesting, what were those changes?
Kinda geeky. But moving away from Oliver a bit --from a multiplicative method to an additive. Additive is easier to explain but I think a less accurate predictor.
27th here as well
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-1-353-from-kansas-to-no-353-and-an-interesting-fact-on-every-team/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on October 24, 2018, 12:26:08 PM
Kinda geeky. But moving away from Oliver a bit --from a multiplicative method to an additive. Additive is easier to explain but I think a less accurate predictor.
You lost me at geeky.