Per John Rothstein on Twitter:
"Source: The Big East and Big 12 have officially agreed to an annual "challenge" between the two conferences, starting during the 19-20 season. Official announcement expected soon."
Personally, I think having a chance to see West Virginia on the schedule again would be great. I don't think the official announcement is out yet, but I'm excited to see how this shapes up.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1051896431395651592 (https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1051896431395651592)
Great new for the conference. As much as I'd like to see WVA come to the 414um, I think the first year it's gotta be Huggins back in Cincinnati again. Too good of a story not to do in the first year.
Any matchup with Huggins is a good matchup.
Love this.
Quote from: Herman Cain on October 15, 2018, 03:07:43 PM
Any matchup with Huggins is a good matchup.
Let's remember to give Turners a month heads up to stock up their inventory.
Would MU's return game at Kansas State next year be considered part of this challenge or would this be IN ADDITION to an away game at K-State?
Quote from: Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup on October 15, 2018, 04:03:21 PM
Would MU's return game at Kansas State next year be considered part of this challenge or would this be IN ADDITION to an away game at K-State?
My guess is it would be in addition, since those games are contracted differently
Quote from: SaveOD238 on October 15, 2018, 04:06:30 PM
My guess is it would be in addition, since those games are contracted differently
Either we won't have a gavitt game or we're gonna have one tough schedule between UW, KState, Gavitt, and now this challenge. Not to mention whoever's in our thanksgiving tournament
Quote from: Galway Eagle on October 15, 2018, 04:14:48 PM
Either we won't have a gavitt game or we're gonna have one tough schedule between UW, KState, Gavitt, and now this challenge. Not to mention whoever's in our thanksgiving tournament
UW-Madison and K-State on the road. Guessing we'll have a Gavitt Game at home and this challenge. Plus 3 neutral site games in Orlando.
If we have another home and home start along with one decent cupcake (ala Vermont, Fresno St, Buffalo) that's a strong start.
Any match up will be tough, but I'm sure Coach Wardle will have the Warriors ready to go!
There's a number of potential intriguing matchups for television.
TCU/Villanova (get Dixon and Wright back to coaching against one another)
WVU/Xavier (get Huggins back in Cincinnati)
ISU/Creighton (get McDermott back against his former school)
UT/Marquette (Shaka almost became coach at MU)
Baylor/Butler (Scott Drew went to Butler)
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on October 15, 2018, 07:41:15 PM
There's a number of potential intriguing matchups for television.
TCU/Villanova (get Dixon and Wright back to coaching against one another)
WVU/Xavier (get Huggins back in Cincinnati)
ISU/Creighton (get McDermott back against his former school)
UT/Marquette (Shaka almost became coach at MU)
Baylor/Butler (Scott Drew went to Butler)
The Done Deal Showdown.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on October 15, 2018, 07:41:15 PM
There's a number of potential intriguing matchups for television.
TCU/Villanova (get Dixon and Wright back to coaching against one another)
WVU/Xavier (get Huggins back in Cincinnati)
ISU/Creighton (get McDermott back against his former school)
UT/Marquette (Shaka almost became coach at MU)
Baylor/Butler (Scott Drew went to Butler)
You forgot...
Kansas/Marquette (rematch of the 2019 Championship game)
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 15, 2018, 08:28:13 PM
You forgot...
Kansas/Marquette (rematch of the 2019 Championship game)
Hopefully better than that 2003 game. Still gives me bad flashbacks.
Quote from: Chili on October 15, 2018, 08:52:26 PM
Hopefully better than that 2003 game. Still gives me bad flashbacks.
Never seen a team so unprepared to play. It was like it was the 1800s and film was not a thing so you never got to see your opponent before you showed up to the gym. You mean a Roy Williams team gets out and runs?
Crean fiasco, aina?
KU or UT would be awesome. But I'd bet we get MU West early on....
Quote from: Windyplayer on October 15, 2018, 07:47:39 PM
The Done Deal Showdown.
Mu82 will lose his mind. Win or lose it means Shaka will be discussed for the next 5 years.
Quote from: Chili on October 15, 2018, 08:52:26 PM
Hopefully better than that 2003 game. Still gives me bad flashbacks.
But not as good as the '74 game
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=211777239
The Big 12 and the BIG EAST are already engaged in home-and-home matchups for the upcoming season due to some pre-existing agreements. The games are: Kansas State at Marquette on December 1, Villanova at Kansas on December 15, Creighton at Oklahoma on December 18, and Providence at Texas on December 21. Return dates in these matchups will be included in the 2019 series, the inaugural year of the arrangement. The complete slate for the first year will be announced in spring 2019.
That blows that already signed series will count part of this event in 2019.
"The Big 12 and the BIG EAST are already engaged in home-and-home matchups for the upcoming season due to some pre-existing agreements. The games are: Kansas State at Marquette on December 1, Villanova at Kansas on December 15, Creighton at Oklahoma on December 18, and Providence at Texas on December 21. Return dates in these matchups will be included in the 2019 series, the inaugural year of the arrangement. "
That's kinda unfortunate.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on October 24, 2018, 09:10:12 AM
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=211777239
So we already know a bunch of the matchups for next season
QuoteThe Big 12 and the BIG EAST are already engaged in home-and-home matchups for the upcoming season due to some pre-existing agreements. The games are: Kansas State at Marquette on December 1, Villanova at Kansas on December 15, Creighton at Oklahoma on December 18, and Providence at Texas on December 21. Return dates in these matchups will be included in the 2019 series, the inaugural year of the arrangement. The complete slate for the first year will be announced in spring 2019.
Interesting tidbit from the ESPN article on this:
"Ten games will be played every year at five campus sites in each conference"
So it looks like 5 of the games each year will be considered a "neutral site" game? Or am I missing something here?
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/25070690/big-east-big-12-agree-series-games
Edit: Nevermind, I did not read this appropriately.
Quote from: WarriorInNYC on October 24, 2018, 09:53:26 AM
Interesting tidbit from the ESPN article on this:
"Ten games will be played every year at five campus sites in each conference"
So it looks like 5 of the games each year will be considered a "neutral site" game? Or am I missing something here?
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/25070690/big-east-big-12-agree-series-games
Big 12 gets 5 home games. Big East gets 5 home games. Thus, each conference gets 5 home games.
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on October 24, 2018, 09:55:29 AM
Big 12 gets 5 home games. Big East gets 5 home games. Thus, each conference gets 5 home games.
Oh boy, I totally read past the "in each conference" part. I need some more coffee.
Conference Challenges are great...people are always asking which is the better Conference. The "Challenge" is not definitive but it stimulates fans interest and makes for good matchups.
On the outside looking in are the smaller conferences of course...which big conference would risk a potential losing record against one.
its also for good for the Big-East as it keeps their upper tier credential solid.
You might say its always solid...but the media and polls seem to give the BE no love early in the season. I "feel like" the BE has to prove itself every year..Nova notwithstanding.
Quote from: MUBigDance on October 24, 2018, 10:08:41 AM
Conference Challenges are great...people are always asking which is the better Conference. The "Challenge" is not definitive but it stimulates fans interest and makes for good matchups.
On the outside looking in are the smaller conferences of course...which big conference would risk a potential losing record against one.
its also for good for the Big-East as it keeps their upper tier credential solid.
You might say its always solid...but the media and polls seem to give the BE no love early in the season. I "feel like" the BE has to prove itself every year..Nova notwithstanding.
I don't know about that. Weren't 6 of our teams receiving votes in the AP poll?
I think the best thing about conference challenges is that it likely makes it easier to work out the scheduling of games with television. My guess is that it is more of a hassle to schedule KSU at Marquette as a one-off game, but when two networks devote five time slots each to the games, it just becomes a matter of slotting the opponents in where you can.
That being said, I hope Marquette can schedule another decent opponent next year. Unless they think that a potential home game in Gavitt Games, at KSU and at UW is enough.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on October 24, 2018, 10:11:33 AM
I don't know about that. Weren't 6 of our teams receiving votes in the AP poll?
Only one team in the top 25.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on October 24, 2018, 10:11:33 AM
I don't know about that. Weren't 6 of our teams receiving votes in the AP poll?
When there are 65 voters, a few people will feel the need to put two big east teams in their poll and there is no clear 2 seed in the BE, besides us, which a beat writer in Louisiana wont give much respect to because lets be honest, they don't care about anything north of the mason-dixon line. It is pretty easy to be receiving votes in the preseason polls, just ask the 53 teams that are receiving votes
Officially announced this morning!!
https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/article220539420.html
Quote from: Chili on October 15, 2018, 08:52:26 PM
Hopefully better than that 2003 game. Still gives me bad flashbacks.
ouch....
Quote from: Slick on October 24, 2018, 12:17:40 PM
Officially announced this morning!!
https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/article220539420.html
There you have it ...
Previously scheduled games between KU and Villanova, Texas and Providence, Oklahoma and Creighton, and K-State and Marquette will be counted as part of the challenge next season. The other six games will be scheduled at a later date.
Quote from: Eldon on October 15, 2018, 06:48:47 PM
Any match up will be tough, but I'm sure Coach Wardle will have the Warriors ready to go!
So much yes.
Quote from: MU82 on October 24, 2018, 11:58:23 PM
There you have it ...
Previously scheduled games between KU and Villanova, Texas and Providence, Oklahoma and Creighton, and K-State and Marquette will be counted as part of the challenge next season. The other six games will be scheduled at a later date.
That leaves
Big EastGeorgetown
Xavier
Butler
DePaul
St. Johns
Seton Hall
Big 12TCU
Baylor
Texas Tech
Oklahoma St
Iowa St
West Virginia
Here's my predictions:
Xavier-West Virginia (Huggy goes back to Cincinnati)
DePaul-Iowa St (regional-ish, though if this game occurs and nobody watches will it really count?)
Georgetown-Texas Tech
Butler-Baylor
St Johns-Oklahoma St
Seton Hall-TCU
I hope we get TCU at some point and give Dixon another loss to remember.
"Marquette beat us one time and all of a sudden they wanted us to be rivals," said Dixon, who won two Big East regular-season titles (2004 and 2011) and one conference tournament championship (2008).
Jamie Dixon coached in the Big East for a decade. He's fired up for new 'alliance/Star-Telegram
KANSAS CITY, MO.
TCU basketball coach Jamie Dixon received good news on Wednesday. The Big 12 and Big East are starting a men's basketball challenge beginning next season and lasting at least four years.
Dixon coached in the Big East for a decade at Pittsburgh (2003-04 through 2012-13) before the school moved to the Atlantic Coast Conference.
"There is a personal factor in there, there is no question," Dixon said at the Big 12 men's basketball media day on Wednesday. "I think it's tremendous.
"I joke about it because I mentioned -- I thought I mentioned that a year ago, two years ago, really, when I first heard the talks, and I kind of thought it fell on deaf ears, but it seems like it's gotten – it's going to be a great thing for us."
The Big 12 and Big East have a few set matchups for next season, including Kansas and Villanova, Texas and Providence, Oklahoma and Creighton, and K-State and Marquette.
The other six games will be scheduled at a later date. Dixon's biggest rivals when he was at Pitt were Villanova and Georgetown, although he doesn't have a strong preference on which school TCU will face next season.
"Marquette beat us one time and all of a sudden they wanted us to be rivals," said Dixon, who won two Big East regular-season titles (2004 and 2011) and one conference tournament championship (2008).
"Everyone wants to be a rival when you're at the top of the league. We had so many rivals at Pittsburgh it was never ending."
Even a few of the Big East teams today that weren't in the conference during Dixon's time have history. Pitt beat Xavier in a Sweet 16 matchup in the 2009 NCAA Tournament, and then lost that same matchup in the second round of the 2010 NCAA Tournament.
In the 2011 NCAA Tournament, Pitt lost 71-70 to Butler in the second round.
"There is history there," Dixon said. "Personally, it's going to be even more exciting."
Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby said this alliance will be similar to the current Big 12/ SEC challenge. The series doesn't have an official name yet, but the hope is it becomes an "event" over a short period similar to the Big 12/ SEC challenge. For now, the games are expected to be played in December.
"It's a great thing, a great opportunity for us," Dixon said.
1. I don't recall Pitt being considered a "rival". Just another big game in a very tough league.
2. Marquette was 7-5 against Pitt while both were in the Big East. 8-5 if you want to count the the 2003 sweet 16 game when Dixon was an assistant. That's a little more than one win.
3. I think this comment is a strong indicator that Marquette got under his skin a little more than he got under ours.
Quote from: MU90620 on October 26, 2018, 07:35:06 AM
1. I don't recall Pitt being considered a "rival". Just another big game in a very tough league.
2. Marquette was 7-5 against Pitt while both were in the Big East. 8-5 if you want to count the the 2003 sweet 16 game when Dixon was an assistant. That's a little more than one win.
3. I think this comment is a strong indicator that Marquette got under his skin a little more than he got under ours.
I'm not sure what the "Pitt" is or who this Jamie Dixon person is, but she sounds like a nice lady.
And kudos to her for coaching a men's basketball team in Texas. Glass ceiling be damned!