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Title: [Paint Touches] Just how abnormal is the Big East’s returning talent drain?
Post by: PaintTouches on May 30, 2018, 01:53:25 PM
With Ragu and Spellman officially gone, the Big East attrition is heavy and unprecedented. Game on.

https://painttouches.com/2018/05/30/just-how-abnormal-is-the-big-easts-returning-talent-drain/ (https://painttouches.com/2018/05/30/just-how-abnormal-is-the-big-easts-returning-talent-drain/)
Title: Re: [Paint Touches] Just how abnormal is the Big East’s returning talent drain?
Post by: LoudMouth on May 30, 2018, 02:13:14 PM
When all statistics are in our favor
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Title: Re: [Paint Touches] Just how abnormal is the Big East’s returning talent drain?
Post by: The Lens on May 30, 2018, 02:16:09 PM
Quote from: pux90mex on May 30, 2018, 01:53:25 PM
With Ragu and Spellman officially gone, the Big East attrition is heavy and unprecedented. Game on.

https://painttouches.com/2018/05/30/just-how-abnormal-is-the-big-easts-returning-talent-drain/ (https://painttouches.com/2018/05/30/just-how-abnormal-is-the-big-easts-returning-talent-drain/)

Huge attrition from a conference that had 1 team past the Round of 32 in 2018.
Title: Re: [Paint Touches] Just how abnormal is the Big East’s returning talent drain?
Post by: Its DJOver on May 30, 2018, 02:19:58 PM
Quote from: The Lens on May 30, 2018, 02:16:09 PM
Huge attrition from a conference that had 1 team past the Round of 32 in 2018.

The Big East had half of the one seeds, and put over half of the conference in.  It will for sure be a down year next year, but the overall strength of the conference should no longer be in question (relatively speaking, you always look to improve, but there was real concern, and rightly so, after the realignment).
Title: Re: [Paint Touches] Just how abnormal is the Big East’s returning talent drain?
Post by: Jay Bee on May 30, 2018, 02:39:41 PM
Quote from: The Lens on May 30, 2018, 02:16:09 PM
Huge attrition from a conference that had 1 team past the Round of 32 in 2018.

#NoMatta
#crapshoot
Title: Re: [Paint Touches] Just how abnormal is the Big East’s returning talent drain?
Post by: buckchuckler on May 30, 2018, 02:49:46 PM
Quote from: The Lens on May 30, 2018, 02:16:09 PM
Huge attrition from a conference that had 1 team past the Round of 32 in 2018.

Is it just me or is this a really odd way to refer to a National Champion?
Title: Re: [Paint Touches] Just how abnormal is the Big East’s returning talent drain?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 30, 2018, 03:39:56 PM
Great stuff Andrei. Time is now. I still think Villanova is my pick to win the BEast, but Marquette needs to be in the conversation this season. I think a 2nd place finish is a reasonable predication and outside the top 3 would be a disappointment.
Title: Re: [Paint Touches] Just how abnormal is the Big East’s returning talent drain?
Post by: The Lens on May 30, 2018, 03:41:25 PM
Quote from: buckchuckler on May 30, 2018, 02:49:46 PM
Is it just me or is this a really odd way to refer to a National Champion?

I'm not taking anything away from Villanova, just would have liked to see more from anyone else. 
Title: Re: [Paint Touches] Just how abnormal is the Big East’s returning talent drain?
Post by: willie warrior on May 30, 2018, 04:58:17 PM
Quote from: pux90mex on May 30, 2018, 01:53:25 PM
With Ragu and Spellman officially gone, the Big East attrition is heavy and unprecedented. Game on.

https://painttouches.com/2018/05/30/just-how-abnormal-is-the-big-easts-returning-talent-drain/ (https://painttouches.com/2018/05/30/just-how-abnormal-is-the-big-easts-returning-talent-drain/)
Oh my. Goody, Goody. Villanova losing 4 of its top 6. That is good for us. We should move on up, because conference talent pool is being drained. Would rather to see talent level high and us at the top of that.
Title: Re: [Paint Touches] Just how abnormal is the Big East’s returning talent drain?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 30, 2018, 05:14:41 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on May 30, 2018, 04:58:17 PM
Oh my. Goody, Goody. Villanova losing 4 of its top 6. That is good for us. We should move on up, because conference talent pool is being drained. Would rather to see talent level high and us at the top of that.

Unfortunately we can't control our conference opponents, just ourselves.

Thought you would be jazzed Willie. You're always complaining that people are giving Wojo too many excuses...now we are taking them away!
Title: Re: [Paint Touches] Just how abnormal is the Big East’s returning talent drain?
Post by: Herman Cain on May 30, 2018, 06:36:05 PM
It is a positive thing for the conference to move players to the next tier.  The word is out that the Big East is a strong conference.

The good news is that there is a decent flow of traditional transfers and grad transfers that will be coming on board to most of the Big East teams this season.   In addition a number of schools have made excellent progress on their traditional recruiting. There were quite a few quality freshman last yaer  and we should see the impact of some of those recruits this year. In addition the incoming recruiting classes have been solid as well and many of those players will be making contributions as the season progresses.

So while Villanova may not be as dominant, the rest of the league,  for the most part , is trending in a good direction.
Title: Re: [Paint Touches] Just how abnormal is the Big East’s returning talent drain?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 30, 2018, 07:02:49 PM
Quote from: Herman Cain on May 30, 2018, 06:36:05 PM
So while Villanova may not be as dominant, the rest of the league,  for the most part , is trending in a good direction.

At least on paper, half the league is trending down from last season (Villanova, Xavier, Butler, Creighton, and Seton Hall).Four are trending up (Marquette, St. John's, Providence, and Georgetown). And one team looks to be static (DePaul).

League as a whole will be very down this season. Good news is that the league should rebound with a vengeance in 19-20.
Title: Re: [Paint Touches] Just how abnormal is the Big East’s returning talent drain?
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on May 30, 2018, 07:14:02 PM
Quote from: TAMU McEwen on May 30, 2018, 07:02:49 PM
At least on paper, half the league is trending down from last season (Villanova, Xavier, Butler, Creighton, and Seton Hall).Four are trending up (Marquette, St. John's, Providence, and Georgetown). And one team looks to be static (DePaul).

League as a whole will be very down this season. Good news is that the league should rebound with a vengeance in 19-20.

PowerPoint?
Title: Re: [Paint Touches] Just how abnormal is the Big East’s returning talent drain?
Post by: willie warrior on May 30, 2018, 07:41:07 PM
Quote from: TAMU McEwen on May 30, 2018, 05:14:41 PM
Unfortunately we can't control our conference opponents, just ourselves.

Thought you would be jazzed Willie. You're always complaining that people are giving Wojo too many excuses...now we are taking them away!
Sorry, no excuses have been taken away. Excuses abound here for Wojo's performance, and if he does get MU out of the bottom tier of the BEast, the hossanas will flow. Long live the Wojo reign.
Title: Re: [Paint Touches] Just how abnormal is the Big East’s returning talent drain?
Post by: WarriorDad on May 30, 2018, 09:40:15 PM
Quote from: The Lens on May 30, 2018, 02:16:09 PM
Huge attrition from a conference that had 1 team past the Round of 32 in 2018.

They don't play best of 3 or best of 5, best of 7.  That's why it is the NCAA tournament.  How was #1 Virginia supposed to do?
Title: Re: [Paint Touches] Just how abnormal is the Big East’s returning talent drain?
Post by: Floorslapper on May 30, 2018, 09:54:12 PM
Quote from: pux90mex on May 30, 2018, 01:53:25 PM
With Ragu and Spellman officially gone, the Big East attrition is heavy and unprecedented. Game on.


Wonder if Wojo had a crystal ball and could see this happening when he laid out his 5 Year plan in the "golden" Power Point?  Seems the stars are aligning quite well.

Wojo's mantra of "get old and stay old" is a good strategy.
Title: Re: [Paint Touches] Just how abnormal is the Big East’s returning talent drain?
Post by: GooooMarquette on May 30, 2018, 10:17:23 PM
Quote from: The Lens on May 30, 2018, 03:41:25 PM
I'm not taking anything away from Villanova, just would have liked to see more from anyone else.

Yeah, it would've been nice to see the other teams do better. But overall, only the ACC and Big 12 had more 2018 tournament wins than the BE. Not as great as I'd like, but not half bad.

Regarding the 2018-19 season, our table is set....
Title: Re: [Paint Touches] Just how abnormal is the Big East’s returning talent drain?
Post by: WarriorDad on May 30, 2018, 10:22:53 PM
Quote from: Floorslapper on May 30, 2018, 09:54:12 PM
Wonder if Wojo had a crystal ball and could see this happening when he laid out his 5 Year plan in the "golden" Power Point?  Seems the stars are aligning quite well.

Wojo's mantra of "get old and stay old" is a good strategy.

Could work against us.  Wojo has great two years, cashes out for another program and we go back to coaching search mode again.
Title: Re: [Paint Touches] Just how abnormal is the Big East’s returning talent drain?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 30, 2018, 11:11:38 PM
Quote from: Floorslapper on May 30, 2018, 09:54:12 PM
Wonder if Wojo had a crystal ball and could see this happening when he laid out his 5 Year plan in the "golden" Power Point?  Seems the stars are aligning quite well.

Wojo's mantra of "get old and stay old" is a good strategy.

The ways of the power point are both mysterious and wise. Those of faith shall soon be rewarded!
Title: Re: [Paint Touches] Just how abnormal is the Big East’s returning talent drain?
Post by: Windyplayer on May 31, 2018, 08:21:54 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on May 30, 2018, 04:58:17 PM
Oh my. Goody, Goody. Villanova losing 4 of its top 6. That is good for us. We should move on up, because conference talent pool is being drained. Would rather to see talent level high and us at the top of that.
Damn, Willie. This is a positive externality. Enjoy the ride, baby.
Title: Re: [Paint Touches] Just how abnormal is the Big East’s returning talent drain?
Post by: Floorslapper on May 31, 2018, 09:27:25 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 30, 2018, 11:11:38 PM
The ways of the power point are both mysterious and wise. Those of faith shall soon be rewarded!

Certainly does appear as thought there are a lot of external factors aligning well, combined with our getting older, and getting Chardonnay, McEwen, that look to have the program looking good.  The one wildcard of course, will be, the actually ability Wojo has as an in-game, X's and O's coach.  The talent is there.  The experience is there.  The departures in the conference have opened up a clear path to the Top 3 of the conference.  Value Add projects 21st ranking.  With solid coaching, all appear within reach - and we will have a peaceful season on Scoop.  :)
Title: Re: [Paint Touches] Just how abnormal is the Big East’s returning talent drain?
Post by: brewcity77 on May 31, 2018, 12:51:37 PM
Quote from: Floorslapper on May 31, 2018, 09:27:25 AM
Certainly does appear as thought there are a lot of external factors aligning well, combined with our getting older, and getting Chardonnay, McEwen, that look to have the program looking good.  The one wildcard of course, will be, the actually ability Wojo has as an in-game, X's and O's coach.  The talent is there.  The experience is there.  The departures in the conference have opened up a clear path to the Top 3 of the conference.  Value Add projects 21st ranking.  With solid coaching, all appear within reach - and we will have a peaceful season on Scoop.  :)

You had me until the end, when you completely broke from reality ;)
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