https://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/nigel-hayes-reveals-wisconsin-discussed-boycotting-a-game-in-2016
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2018/05/01/nigel-hayes-wisconsin-discussed-boycott-protest-ncaa-compensation/570074002/
Has this been talked about before?
I'm no fan of some of the NCAA's rules, and I know this was a B10/ACC Challenge game, but does Nigel really think that not showing up for a November college basketball game is going to lead to any significant change? Did showing up on Gameday with a sign do anything?
Don't come off as some sort of crusader for a cause when you reveal 18 months later that you *almost* boycotted a non-conference basketball game, and the only reason you chose that game is because it wouldn't have a large impact on your tournament chances. The tournament is where the NCAA makes it cash. Unless you hit them there, the gesture is mostly meaningless.
He should have been therein 2017-18, they boycotted several games @1nal?
I loved his comments that the players that had no chance of playing professionally are the ones that should boycott. Really? Aren't they the ones that benefit most from what they are getting?
I would guess the WI faithful would have their heads explode if that boycott would have happened.
Quote from: Waldo Jeffers on May 02, 2018, 08:51:05 AM
I loved his comments that the players that had no chance of playing professionally are the ones that should boycott. Really? Aren't they the ones that benefit most from what they are getting?
I would guess the WI faithful would have their heads explode if that boycott would have happened.
I
think his point was that why should they play that game? It wouldn't help toward success in their conference. If they lose, it hurts their national rep/NCAA chances. And if anyone gets injured, it hurts the team and individual goals of the season.
Quote from: #bansultan on May 02, 2018, 07:48:49 AM
I'm no fan of some of the NCAA's rules, and I know this was a B10/ACC Challenge game, but does Nigel really think that not showing up for a November college basketball game is going to lead to any significant change? Did showing up on Gameday with a sign do anything?
Don't come off as some sort of crusader for a cause when you reveal 18 months later that you *almost* boycotted a non-conference basketball game, and the only reason you chose that game is because it wouldn't have a large impact on your tournament chances. The tournament is where the NCAA makes it cash. Unless you hit them there, the gesture is mostly meaningless.
Most, if not all, of Nigel's efforts are meaningless. He thinks of himself as a crusader for those being treated unfairly but he hasn't actually accomplished anything. Waiting over year then claiming that UW thought about maybe almost kind of boycotting a nothing game is empty.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on May 02, 2018, 10:52:22 AM
Most, if not all, of Nigel's efforts are meaningless. He thinks of himself as a crusader for those being treated unfairly but he hasn't actually accomplished anything. Waiting over year then claiming that UW thought about maybe almost kind of boycotting a nothing game is empty.
He sparked/intensified the discussion about what should be viewed as fair compensation for student-athletes. His protest/stunt/whatever you want to call it on Gameday was covered by dozens of media outlets across the country, and was the catalyst of discussions here at Scoop and on forum and among fans nationwide.
That in and of itself is accomplishing something.
If (when, cause it is only a matter of time) the NCAA increases compensation and/or allows players to profit off their likenesses, it will in part be because of athletes like Hayes speaking out.
I agree that saying "hey, we almost did a boycott two years ago" is useless, but his previous efforts have been far from meaningless.
Quote from: Pakuni on May 02, 2018, 11:09:50 AM
He sparked/intensified the discussion about what should be viewed as fair compensation for student-athletes. His protest/stunt/whatever you want to call it on Gameday was covered by dozens of media outlets across the country, and was the catalyst of discussions here at Scoop and on forum and among fans nationwide.
That in and of itself is accomplishing something.
If (when, cause it is only a matter of time) the NCAA increases compensation and/or allows players to profit off their likenesses, it will in part be because of athletes like Hayes speaking out.
I agree that saying "hey, we almost did a boycott two years ago" is useless, but his previous efforts have been far from meaningless.
Agree to disagree.
Nigel's a stooge who tries to make these things all about himself. His "accomplishments" basically amount to nothing.
Quote from: Pakuni on May 02, 2018, 11:09:50 AM
He sparked/intensified the discussion about what should be viewed as fair compensation for student-athletes. His protest/stunt/whatever you want to call it on Gameday was covered by dozens of media outlets across the country, and was the catalyst of discussions here at Scoop and on forum and among fans nationwide.
That in and of itself is accomplishing something.
If (when, cause it is only a matter of time) the NCAA increases compensation and/or allows players to profit off their likenesses, it will in part be because of athletes like Hayes speaking out.
I agree that saying "hey, we almost did a boycott two years ago" is useless, but his previous efforts have been far from meaningless.
He absolutely did not ignite or intensify that conversation at all. It's been a talking point for years before he even understood he had a chance at college ball.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on May 02, 2018, 11:22:11 AM
Nigel's a stooge who tries to make these things all about himself.
+100
Quote from: Pakuni on May 02, 2018, 11:09:50 AM
He sparked/intensified the discussion about what should be viewed as fair compensation for student-athletes. His protest/stunt/whatever you want to call it on Gameday was covered by dozens of media outlets across the country, and was the catalyst of discussions here at Scoop and on forum and among fans nationwide.
That in and of itself is accomplishing something.
If (when, cause it is only a matter of time) the NCAA increases compensation and/or allows players to profit off their likenesses, it will in part be because of athletes like Hayes speaking out.
I agree that saying "hey, we almost did a boycott two years ago" is useless, but his previous efforts have been far from meaningless.
I'm on your side on this issue, but I didn't even remember that Hayes did anything on Gameday. So it didn't have any impact with me.
And this stuff about what he almost did is beyond silly.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on May 02, 2018, 10:52:22 AM
Most, if not all, of Nigel's efforts are meaningless. He thinks of himself as a crusader for those being treated unfairly but he hasn't actually accomplished anything. Waiting over year then claiming that UW thought about maybe almost kind of boycotting a nothing game is empty.
+1. You, Brew City 83, Unleash, Sultan and 82 have this one right.
FWIW, they talked about this on PTI today.
I remain unmoved.
I almost did lots of things. ::)
Hayes is all about seeing his name in print.
You're telling me the product they put out on the floor last year wasn't the ultimate form of protest?
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