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Title: Point guard
Post by: Aircraftcarrier on March 27, 2018, 03:57:55 PM
Trevor Anderson would have been a great back up point guard for MU.Any reason other than higher tuition he did not walk on at MU instead of UW. Wisconsin just got Strickland.Trice will be a redshirt soph,Strickland a fr. and Davison can also play point.Anderson will never play
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: GGGG on March 27, 2018, 04:00:27 PM
Quote from: Aircraftcarrier on March 27, 2018, 03:57:55 PM
Trevor Anderson would have been a great back up point guard for MU.Any reason other than higher tuition he did not walk on at MU instead of UW. Wisconsin just got Strickland.Trice will be a redshirt soph,Strickland a fr. and Davison can also play point.Anderson will never play


Why would we want a walk-on point guard at MU who will "never play" at a school that is worse than we are?
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: Goose on March 27, 2018, 04:06:05 PM
This is where we are at?
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: KampusFoods on March 27, 2018, 04:07:20 PM
Quote from: Goose on March 27, 2018, 04:06:05 PM
This is where we are at?

This is where Aircraftcarrier is at. Will be shocked if anyone outside the usual badger trolls agree with this.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: Aircraftcarrier on March 27, 2018, 04:09:35 PM
You guys never disappoint.Geniuses
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: Smokin' Jae on March 27, 2018, 04:10:28 PM
I like Anderson a lot, disagree with the statement that he will never play at wisconsin. He imo might be a better true pg than Davison and certainly is than trice.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: Aircraftcarrier on March 27, 2018, 04:14:35 PM
Thank you Smokin Jae. I like Anderson too.Big back log ahead of him though.All you geniuses who is MU back up point guard next year?Or for that matter who is the starter?It has been proven that Elliott and Howard can not play point.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: MuMark on March 27, 2018, 04:15:04 PM
He always dreamed of playing at UW

https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/sports/college/uwgb/2017/05/03/trevor-anderson-transfers-wisconsin/101263980/
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 27, 2018, 04:16:27 PM
Marquette should have every high school PG in the state as a walk on. Wojo clearly doesn't know how to recruit.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: GB Warrior on March 27, 2018, 04:17:09 PM
If I could find Stevens Point on a map, I'd say he put its basketball there.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 27, 2018, 04:17:55 PM
I see a SG.  A better Jake Thomas.  When I watched SPASH at State, Sam ran the point.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: Nukem2 on March 27, 2018, 04:18:43 PM
Quote from: Aircraftcarrier on March 27, 2018, 04:14:35 PM
Thank you Smokin Jae. I like Anderson too.Big back log ahead of him though.All you geniuses who is MU back up point guard next year?Or for that matter who is the starter?It has been proven that Elliott and Howard can not play point.
Suspect that Trevor will be part of the rotation.  He did not transfer to sit on the bench.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: Nukem2 on March 27, 2018, 04:20:12 PM
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on March 27, 2018, 04:17:55 PM
I see a SG.  A better Jake Thomas.  When I watched SPASH at State, Sam ran the point.
Actually, they both initiated the offense depending upon the flow of the game.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: Aircraftcarrier on March 27, 2018, 04:21:48 PM
Sure are a lot of funny guys commenting.Try answering the two questions.That is what I thought.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: nyg on March 27, 2018, 04:22:11 PM
Quote from: Aircraftcarrier on March 27, 2018, 04:14:35 PM
Thank you Smokin Jae. I like Anderson too.Big back log ahead of him though.All you geniuses who is MU back up point guard next year?Or for that matter who is the starter?It has been proven that Elliott and Howard can not play point.

See the other dozens of threads regarding the issue. 
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: MUfan12 on March 27, 2018, 04:23:59 PM
Trev can play. Wouldn't surprise me if he got minutes for UW.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 27, 2018, 04:29:39 PM
Quote from: MuMark on March 27, 2018, 04:15:04 PM
He always dreamed of playing at UW

https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/sports/college/uwgb/2017/05/03/trevor-anderson-transfers-wisconsin/101263980/

This. A little research shows why he is at UW, not Marquette. He always wanted to play for the Badgers, not Marquette.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: Aircraftcarrier on March 27, 2018, 04:31:50 PM
So did Sam and Joey Hauser. You can ask them too.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: We R Final Four on March 27, 2018, 04:35:18 PM
Quote from: Smokin' Jae on March 27, 2018, 04:10:28 PM
I like Anderson a lot, disagree with the statement that he will never play at wisconsin. He imo might be a better true pg than Davison and certainly is than trice.
I am indifferent on TA, but completely agree on the rest of this take.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 27, 2018, 04:38:15 PM
Quote from: Nukem2 on March 27, 2018, 04:20:12 PM
Actually, they both initiated the offense depending upon the flow of the game.

I'll admit my viewing was limited.  That makes sense.

I looked at his advanced stats just now. 15.4% assist rate, 17.7% turnover rate.

Markus posted better numbers against better competition.  If no one is added, he is Marquette's best PG.

There really isn't a backup on the roster.  Need to add one, or better yet a starter.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: Aircraftcarrier on March 27, 2018, 04:47:28 PM
MU is the leader for DJ Carton of Bettendorf,Iowa.Class of 2019 class.That is why an ideal grad transfer is preferred.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on March 27, 2018, 04:50:21 PM
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on March 27, 2018, 04:38:15 PM
I'll admit my viewing was limited.  That makes sense.

I looked at his advanced stats just now. 15.4% assist rate, 17.7% turnover rate.

Markus posted better numbers against better competition.  If no one is added, he is Marquette's best PG.

There really isn't a backup on the roster.  Need to add one, or better yet a starter.

I think Greg could handle backup with his thumb healed and a full offseason to work on his handle. He'd certainly be a much better option than Trevor Anderson.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 27, 2018, 05:02:35 PM
Quote from: Aircraftcarrier on March 27, 2018, 04:47:28 PM
MU is the leader for DJ Carton of Bettendorf,Iowa.Class of 2019 class.That is why an ideal grad transfer is preferred.

Source?
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: MuMark on March 27, 2018, 05:17:50 PM
Quote from: Aircraftcarrier on March 27, 2018, 04:31:50 PM
So did Sam and Joey Hauser. You can ask them too.

Sam and Joey were top 100 kids who had multiple high major offers.

If MU wanted to give Trevor a scholarship to join Sam and Joey then I'm sure he wou.d have accepted it over being a walk on at UW.....  we didn't offer 1......no other high majors offered either.....

Perfectly understandable with no offers at this level that he decided to walk on at the school he rooted for as a kid.......this really isn't complicated.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: We R Final Four on March 27, 2018, 05:36:43 PM
True. However, TA did well at a mid major albeit for one year, and believes he can play at the high major level. He's betting on himself, even though others are not, yet. Good for him.
That being said, Like all other Badgers, I hope he fails miserably.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: TheTulsaWarrior on March 27, 2018, 05:51:08 PM
TA or someone else will be caught in a numbers game in Madison and will not be happy.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: wadesworld on March 27, 2018, 05:51:53 PM
I hope Trevor Anderson is getting loads of playing time for the Badgers in the coming years.  Only a good thing for MU if that's happening.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: MuMark on March 27, 2018, 05:55:56 PM
I agree good for him. If he plays well maybe he can earn a scholarship down the road.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: Its DJOver on March 27, 2018, 06:15:21 PM
If there were a player at almost any other high school in WI, that got no high major offers, went to UWM, put up decent numbers, but decided to transfer and walk on at Minnesota, would he be getting this much attention? I do not think so.

TA is attracting attention on here because of 2 reasons. 1, he played high school ball with Sam and Joey. 2, he's transferring to our in state rivals.  I'm sure Wojo saw him play multiple times when he was recruiting Sam and Joey, and if Wojo didn't think he was worth an offer, I'd trust that.

There are literally dozens if not hundreds of other possible guard targets in other threads, let's focus on them okay?
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: MU82 on March 27, 2018, 07:12:09 PM
Quote from: Aircraftcarrier on March 27, 2018, 04:47:28 PM
MU is the leader for DJ Carton of Bettendorf,Iowa.Class of 2019 class.That is why an ideal grad transfer is preferred.

247 says Wisconsin is the leader for Carton.

Don't know if that's true or not, just reporting what they're saying.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: Daniel on March 27, 2018, 07:18:31 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 27, 2018, 07:12:09 PM
247 says Wisconsin is the leader for Carton.

Don't know if that's true or not, just reporting what they're saying.

Who are we the leader for,then, if any?
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 27, 2018, 09:46:19 PM
Quote from: Aircraftcarrier on March 27, 2018, 04:47:28 PM
MU is the leader for DJ Carton of Bettendorf,Iowa.Class of 2019 class.That is why an ideal grad transfer is preferred.

Quote from: Lazar's Headband on March 27, 2018, 05:02:35 PM
Source?

He's speaking the truth.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 27, 2018, 09:58:40 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 27, 2018, 09:46:19 PM
He's speaking the truth.

Well, that's nice to hear.  Hopefully Wojo can seal the deal.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: MU82 on March 27, 2018, 10:12:03 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 27, 2018, 09:46:19 PM
He's speaking the truth.

I am not a recruiting guy. All I know is what I read on a couple of sites, including this one.

Why is 247 saying that Wisconsin is 80% likely to get this kid and Marquette only 20%? Does 247 have an agenda, or are they just wrong?

Serious, non-snarky questions. I'm just trying to learn.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: MUEng92 on March 27, 2018, 10:32:43 PM
I'm no expert either, but not one of those predictions are dated as recent at this high school season.  But the most recent interviews found on the internet talk about him visiting Iowa and Indiana during the season.

It's almost like those predictions are complete guesses and old ones at that.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 27, 2018, 10:42:25 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 27, 2018, 10:12:03 PM
I am not a recruiting guy. All I know is what I read on a couple of sites, including this one.

Why is 247 saying that Wisconsin is 80% likely to get this kid and Marquette only 20%? Does 247 have an agenda, or are they just wrong?

Serious, non-snarky questions. I'm just trying to learn.

Timing and who made the predication matta. First prediction was Evan Flood, notorious Bucky homer. 2nd two predictions came right after Carton attended a basketball camp at UW and received an offer. Could be they heard something "insider", more likely they just saw a headline of three star kid from Iowa (before he blew up) receives an offer while attending UW basketball camp and decided to log a prediction, after all they can change it at any time. The last UW prediction was Jerry Meyer, a "national recruiting expert" which is code for "talks to the local guys  and follows their lead." The most recent prediction is Mark Miller saying MU. The prediction didn't seem to correspond with any public knowledge events...which could mean "insider" information....or it could mean that Mr. Miller just had a gut feeling while taking his morning dump.

All that is to say, Crystal Ball is good for a vague idea of whose persuing a recruit but not actually who is "leading."

AC has shown he knows his stuff around the recruiting scene in the past, and FWIW I've heard the staff is pretty optimistic about Carton.

There was also this article: https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/college/iowa/bbmen-recruiting/2018/02/01/dj-carton-basketball-recruiting-iowa-illinois-minnesota-missouri-marquette-wisconsin-indiana/1087322001/. It's just one interview but it paints a pretty warm picture for Marquette (and somewhat of a lukewarm one for the others).
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: MomofMUltiples on March 27, 2018, 10:45:00 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 27, 2018, 10:12:03 PM
I am not a recruiting guy. All I know is what I read on a couple of sites, including this one.

Why is 247 saying that Wisconsin is 80% likely to get this kid and Marquette only 20%? Does 247 have an agenda, or are they just wrong?

Serious, non-snarky questions. I'm just trying to learn.

Paging Jay Bee!  Guess it's been too long since you've 'splained the Crystal Ball to these fools.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: MUEng92 on March 27, 2018, 10:48:46 PM
Quote from: MomofMUltiples on March 27, 2018, 10:45:00 PM
Paging Jay Bee!  Guess it's been too long since you've 'splained the Crystal Ball to these fools.
Do I really have to put in the effort to use teal? I thought it was pretty obvious.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: MU82 on March 27, 2018, 11:29:23 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 27, 2018, 10:42:25 PM
Timing and who made the predication matta. First prediction was Evan Flood, notorious Bucky homer. 2nd two predictions came right after Carton attended a basketball camp at UW and received an offer. Could be they heard something "insider", more likely they just saw a headline of three star kid from Iowa (before he blew up) receives an offer while attending UW basketball camp and decided to log a prediction, after all they can change it at any time. The last UW prediction was Jerry Meyer, a "national recruiting expert" which is code for "talks to the local guys  and follows their lead." The most recent prediction is Mark Miller saying MU. The prediction didn't seem to correspond with any public knowledge events...which could mean "insider" information....or it could mean that Mr. Miller just had a gut feeling while taking his morning dump.

All that is to say, Crystal Ball is good for a vague idea of whose persuing a recruit but not actually who is "leading."

AC has shown he knows his stuff around the recruiting scene in the past, and FWIW I've heard the staff is pretty optimistic about Carton.

There was also this article: https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/college/iowa/bbmen-recruiting/2018/02/01/dj-carton-basketball-recruiting-iowa-illinois-minnesota-missouri-marquette-wisconsin-indiana/1087322001/. It's just one interview but it paints a pretty warm picture for Marquette (and somewhat of a lukewarm one for the others).

Thanks for the answer, TAMU. I also saw that article, and I agree that he had more nice things to say about MU and Wojo than any of the others schools/coaches.

If the kid is good, I hope we get him.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: lohaus on March 27, 2018, 11:58:51 PM
Can we please get back to the topic of why Trevor Anderson isn't on our roster?
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 28, 2018, 06:41:09 AM
Quote from: MomofMUltiples on March 27, 2018, 10:45:00 PM
Paging Jay Bee!  Guess it's been too long since you've 'splained the Crystal Ball to these fools.
#crystalballfreethrowsnomatta
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: dw3dw3dw3 on March 28, 2018, 07:15:35 AM
Quote from: lohaus on March 27, 2018, 11:58:51 PM
Can we please get back to the topic of why Trevor Anderson isn't on our roster?
Not sure if this was supposed to be in jest, but I'll bite. It's possible he was offered a 3 for 4 or 2 for 4 deal. I thought the other thing was Gard was trying to pay his dues to the state a little, with hopefully getting a little more equity with Joey while that was still undecided.

 
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: GGGG on March 28, 2018, 07:46:33 AM
Quote from: dw3dw3dw3 on March 28, 2018, 07:15:35 AM
Not sure if this was supposed to be in jest, but I'll bite. It's possible he was offered a 3 for 4 or 2 for 4 deal. I thought the other thing was Gard was trying to pay his dues to the state a little, with hopefully getting a little more equity with Joey while that was still undecided.



Right.  Wojo had one scholarship available for 2018-19 when Anderson transferred to UW - and he was holding it for Joey.

Or maybe Wojo just doesn't think he's good enough.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 28, 2018, 07:52:28 AM
Bucky just gotta commitment from Rod Strickland's kid ta play 1. Figurin' dey bee dunn wit dat spot, hey?
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: Its DJOver on March 28, 2018, 08:14:24 AM
Quote from: dw3dw3dw3 on March 28, 2018, 07:15:35 AM
Not sure if this was supposed to be in jest, but I'll bite. It's possible he was offered a 3 for 4 or 2 for 4 deal. I thought the other thing was Gard was trying to pay his dues to the state a little, with hopefully getting a little more equity with Joey while that was still undecided.



Its no coincidence that his transfer was announced and over reported (at least in Madison), while Joey was still uncommitted. Lots of reports seemed to hint at the move being made more-so to "even out" the recruiting of Joey since we already had Sam, they needed someone.  No idea if this was actually the case, but it was hinted multiple times.
Title: Re: Point guard
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on March 28, 2018, 08:25:42 AM
Quote from: lohaus on March 27, 2018, 11:58:51 PM
Can we please get back to the topic of why Trevor Anderson isn't on our roster?

Because we have better players than him and will be adding better players than him. If he's going to walk on, he went somehwere with much lower in-state tuition, where he would actually have a chance to play, and it's a team he's been rooting for his whole life.

Thread over.
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