Ben Steele just tweeted he won't return.
Not really surprising.
https://twitter.com/BenSteeleMJS/status/977283994508255232 (https://twitter.com/BenSteeleMJS/status/977283994508255232)
More room for another PG. Good luck to Harry. Go make some money.
Crystal clear that it had not worked out; good to end the speculation, wish him well and use the scholly
My guess is he goes pro in Australia. Best of luck to him.
Rather it happen sooner than later. More time to get after the transfer market
Best of luck to you in your future Harry, sorry that it didn't work out.
Well... This was a fast name.
Would've been better off doing a year and a half season to get into tip top shape and wait till held had graduated. There'd be minutes, he'd have age and acclimated to our system. Oh well good luck to him
Quote from: zcg2013 on March 23, 2018, 03:50:19 PM
My guess is he goes pro in Australia. Best of luck to him.
Yes, and good to know early.
Hope he finishes off the semester so as to not eff up our APR
Good for him. He has helped his stock while at MU, when it comes to his future professional career in Australia. I'm sure there are multiple suitors for Harry's services.
Since he wasn't going to play much, the longer he stayed in school, the less he would have been able to rake in. Better to get out while the getting's good. Makes perfect sense from his perspective.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on March 23, 2018, 03:53:12 PM
Would've been better off doing a year and a half season to get into tip top shape and wait till held had graduated. There'd be minutes, he'd have age and acclimated to our system. Oh well good luck to him
I think he saw the writing on the wall in terms of minutes. Lots of new, big bodies ready to contribute next year.
Quote from: yetipro on March 23, 2018, 04:00:52 PM
Good for him. He has helped his stock while at MU, when it comes to his future professional career in Australia. I'm sure there are multiple suitors for Harry's services.
You might need to clarify that one. I don't follow.
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 23, 2018, 04:00:00 PM
Hope he finishes off the semester somas to not eff up our APR
Yup.
Quote from: skianth16 on March 23, 2018, 04:02:13 PM
You might need to clarify that one. I don't follow.
His upside is clearly higher than it was when he was 50 pounds heavier, or whatever. All the stories have been that he has absolutely worked his butt off and is developing multiple aspects of his game. I also have to imagine playing for a high major American college team will be a feather in his cap when it comes to Australian basketball. Others may know more about Australian basketball but I have to imagine he's a great prospect for that kind of league.
When it comes to his production, it didn't work out this year, but he's way better off having learned all the lessons and gotten the high level coaching and experience.
Quote from: skianth16 on March 23, 2018, 04:01:27 PM
I think he saw the writing on the wall in terms of minutes. Lots of new, big bodies ready to contribute next year.
I don't doubt that. That's why I said he shouldve redshirted next year. It'd be him and Theo at center and he'd have a year and a half to develop his game, get acclimated to our system etc. none of Joey Morrow or bailey are going to step in at center.
The Aussie Niv Berkowitz
Look, we all know the Froling experiment was a total disaster from a basketball standpoint and that speaks volumes to Wojo's judge and development of talent. Save that for a thread of its own.
What struck me, however, was his compassion and consoling of Rowsey on the bench. I'm certain y'all remember Froling putting his arm around Andrew's shoulder at a very emotional time. Don't know if I would have similar nads in that situation knowing I'm past history. HF showed me something that evening that exuded class and maturity and I admire him for having done so.
Wojo probably forced Harry to leave so he could continue his "we are young" comments.
I kid, I kid.
Best of luck to harry.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 23, 2018, 04:14:15 PM
Look, we all know the Froling experiment was a total disaster from a basketball standpoint and that speaks volumnes to Wojo's judge and development of talent. Save that for a thread of its own.
What struck me, however, was his compassion and consoling of Rowsey on the bench. I'm certain y'all remember Froling putting his arm around Andrew's shoulder at a very emotional time. Don't know if I would have similar nads in that situation knowing I'm past history. HF showed me something that evening that exuded class and maturity and I admire him for having done so.
I got a hug for you any time, kin. Not a Dr Blackheart hug that lands you with an ankle monitor, but a bro hug.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Guess I was a little early.
Quote from: yetipro on March 23, 2018, 04:07:35 PM
His upside is clearly higher than it was when he was 50 pounds heavier, or whatever. All the stories have been that he has absolutely worked his butt off and is developing multiple aspects of his game. I also have to imagine playing for a high major American college team will be a feather in his cap when it comes to Australian basketball. Others may know more about Australian basketball but I have to imagine he's a great prospect for that kind of league.
When it comes to his production, it didn't work out this year, but he's way better off having learned all the lessons and gotten the high level coaching and experience.
I can see how being in better shape makes him a better prospect. That part makes sense. As far as him being a great prospect just because he spent a year at MU, remember, this is still pro basketball. He's not going to be all that unique for having spent some time in the states. I think there are a few guys that were pretty solid college players in Australia now and even a few guys that spent some time in the NBA. He's going to have to work to earn a spot on a roster for sure.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 23, 2018, 04:16:01 PM
I got a hug for you any time, kin. Not a Dr Blackheart hug that lands you with an ankle monitor, but a bro hug.
Dude, you are on. Anytime you're in the big city, man, look me up.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on March 23, 2018, 03:53:12 PM
Would've been better off doing a year and a half season to get into tip top shape and wait till held had graduated. There'd be minutes, he'd have age and acclimated to our system. Oh well good luck to him
Wrong.... bad fit , low work rate, zero toughness. Looked like tarzan played like Jane. lasted 1 semester at two different D1 programs in the US. Lacks the motor and toughness to play at this level. Low D1 kid or low foreign league. Worth the try by the staff sonetimes it just doesnt work out. Hard to tell before ur with a kid like that every day. U want to give a 7 footer every chance. But when its clear tgat dog wont hunt you end it. Best thing fir MU anyway didnt need a 5 that would never play for two more years.
Hoping for two transfers!!!
Late Friday afternoon news is always negative...
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on March 23, 2018, 04:23:43 PM
Wrong.... bad fit , low work rate, zero toughness. Looked like tarzan played like Jane. lasted 1 semester at two different D1 programs in the US. Lacks the motor and toughness to play at this level. Low D1 kid or low foreign league. Worth the try by the staff sonetimes it just doesnt work out. Hard to tell before ur with a kid like that every day. U want to give a 7 footer every chance. But when its clear tgat dog wont hunt you end it. Best thing fir MU anyway didnt need a 5 that would never play for two more years.
Hoping for two transfers!!!
Unless you can prove that somehow he wouldn't have been a serviceable big man after working out for a year and a half you can't say "wrong" what you mean is "I disagree"
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 23, 2018, 04:16:01 PM
I got a hug for you any time, kin. Not a Dr Blackheart hug that lands you with an ankle monitor, but a bro hug.
BeeJay told me cow tipping was legal in WI.
Anyone that wants to put any of this on Wojo is clueless. Froling was a skilled 6'11" big. A top 75 recruit who signed with Larry Brown when he had SMU playing some great ball. U see the size and u see the skill, its clear why many many schools wanted him and were willing to take the chance that he coukd be a high major contributor. This isnt a time to knock evaluations or coaches for taking a chance on a kid. This is on Harry, ton of skill but the kid just didnt have it. Worth tge try but when its clear there is no place, its time to move on.
I doubt he would have been back even if he wanted to be. I'm happy Wojo isn't afraid to cut dead weight.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on March 23, 2018, 04:26:04 PM
Unless you can prove that somehow he wouldn't have been a serviceable big man after working out for a year and a half you can't say "wrong" what you mean is "I disagree"
Nope i mean wrong. It was clear to most that Harry froling would never be more than about 11th man at best at MU. I dont care if he was here 6 years. Kid didnt have it. Cam marotta could get 6 phds and still wouldnt contribute to the team. If cam was 6'11" and skilled coaches would be willing to give him a chance too
And this aint a kick him on the way out. Im sure hes a nice fellow and its clear his teammates liked him. But ive said this since about 2-3 games. His toughness, Effort, work rate, motor, etc were really no where near D1. Classic looks lije tarzan plays like jane, when ur 6'11" u get more chances than others
Best of luck to Mr. Froling. He didn't find what he was looking for here. I hope he finds it at his next stop
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on March 23, 2018, 04:32:16 PM
Anyone that wants to put any of this on Wojo is clueless. Froling was a skilled 6'11" big. A top 75 recruit who signed with Larry Brown when he had SMU playing some great ball. U see the size and u see the skill, its clear why many many schools wanted him and were willing to take the chance that he coukd be a high major contributor. This isnt a time to knock evaluations or coaches for taking a chance on a kid. This is on Harry, ton of skill but the kid just didnt have it. Worth tge try but when its clear there is no place, its time to move on.
Shockingly rational post considering who drafted it.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on March 23, 2018, 04:32:16 PM
Anyone that wants to put any of this on Wojo is clueless. Froling was a skilled 6'11" big. A top 75 recruit who signed with Larry Brown when he had SMU playing some great ball. U see the size and u see the skill, its clear why many many schools wanted him and were willing to take the chance that he coukd be a high major contributor. This isnt a time to knock evaluations or coaches for taking a chance on a kid. This is on Harry, ton of skill but the kid just didnt have it. Worth tge try but when its clear there is no place, its time to move on.
I agree that Froling didn't have it, but the staff/Wojo has to at least be somewhat accountable.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on March 23, 2018, 04:10:26 PMnone of Joey Morrow or bailey are going to step in at center.
Careful.......
Quote from: cheese ball chaser on March 23, 2018, 05:01:13 PM
I agree that Froling didn't have it, but the staff/Wojo has to at least be somewhat accountable.
Of course they are. But you can't teach height. It's not like this was like that guy from 5-6 years ago that Buzz gave a season to. What was his name?
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 23, 2018, 04:00:00 PM
Hope he finishes off the semester so as to not eff up our APR
You mean hope we don't get #Kostas'd
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 23, 2018, 05:03:01 PM
Careful.......
Morrow's a banger, Joey could be a stretch 5 in a pinch
#wegotthis
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on March 23, 2018, 04:36:42 PM
Nope i mean wrong. It was clear to most that Harry froling would never be more than about 11th man at best at MU. I dont care if he was here 6 years. Kid didnt have it. Cam marotta could get 6 phds and still wouldnt contribute to the team. If cam was 6'11" and skilled coaches would be willing to give him a chance too
And this aint a kick him on the way out. Im sure hes a nice fellow and its clear his teammates liked him. But ive said this since about 2-3 games. His toughness, Effort, work rate, motor, etc were really no where near D1. Classic looks lije tarzan plays like jane, when ur 6'11" u get more chances than others
Still very much opinion.
Sand Knit is right. I've seen "project bigs" before. Matt Heldt is a project who has progressed nicely. Way different than Harry.
Sorry to see him go but it's probably best for both parties. Good luck in all future endeavors.
Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on March 23, 2018, 05:08:56 PM
Morrow's a banger, Joey could be a stretch 5 in a pinch
#wegotthis
Between Matty and Theo, plus with Morrow certainly able to play there, we've got the #5 solidly covered without Harry. Add in a little Joey in the same role that Sam played this year and it's more than enough. Harry knew it and so did everyone else.
Let me say this though. All indications are that Harry worked hard, did what he was told, and was a good teammate. We all wish him future success. #mubb
Quote from: jsglow on March 23, 2018, 05:21:05 PM
Let me say this though. All indications are that Harry worked hard, did what he was told, and was a good teammate. We all wish him future success. #mubb
Here! Here!
Waiting for the Dude that he was a difference maker to speak up about Harry.
Crickets.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 23, 2018, 04:27:53 PM
BeeJay told me cow tipping was legal in WI.
gotta push from the side, not the back. I know that's the Minnesota way, but they do weird ish up there. Pants around the ankles doesn't give you more leverage either.
Quote from: willie warrior on March 23, 2018, 05:35:21 PM
Waiting for the Dude that he was a difference maker to speak up about Harry.
Crickets.
I don't think I was the one who said difference maker, but I had much higher expectations for Harry. I thought he would be our starting center. I was wrong.
Satisfied?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 23, 2018, 04:14:15 PM
Look, we all know the Froling experiment was a total disaster from a basketball standpoint and that speaks volumes to Wojo's judge and development of talent. Save that for a thread of its own.
What struck me, however, was his compassion and consoling of Rowsey on the bench. I'm certain y'all remember Froling putting his arm around Andrew's shoulder at a very emotional time. Don't know if I would have similar nads in that situation knowing I'm past history. HF showed me something that evening that exuded class and maturity and I admire him for having done so.
Hot take alert
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 23, 2018, 04:14:15 PM
Look, we all know the Froling experiment was a total disaster from a basketball standpoint and that speaks volumes to Wojo's judge and development of talent. Save that for a thread of its own.
What struck me, however, was his compassion and consoling of Rowsey on the bench. I'm certain y'all remember Froling putting his arm around Andrew's shoulder at a very emotional time. Don't know if I would have similar nads in that situation knowing I'm past history. HF showed me something that evening that exuded class and maturity and I admire him for having done so.
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Totally agree. More class than the sh##heads at Kentucky who didn't bother to shake hands after losing.
Honestly I think one of the biggest factors working against Harry was the midseason transfer. You don't have time to log minutes and prove yourself against cupcakes and Wojo rightly was not interested in experimenting in a one possession game at Providence or Seton Hall. Knew this was probably coming but I still wish he had stayed as I think he never really got comfortable. Now go get someone good to fill the spot!
This is big time college basketball. The value of that scholarship changed the moment Hanni left. Not saying Wojo pulled it at all. But we need a guard badly and that wasn't the case at Thanksgiving.
Now the intrigue : What DO we do with TWO?
Plan A Best case scenario.
Plan B
Plan C
Plan D
Sorry it didn't work out. I thought he would be a difference maker. Every now and again there would be a flash. A dribble drive and dunk. A really nice pass. A tough rebound. But he was slow defensively, particularly in space. And there just aren't minutes for a third center. Good luck, young man. Seemed like a good kid.
Quote from: Loose Cannon on March 23, 2018, 06:34:03 PM
Now the intrigue : What DO we do with TWO?
Plan A Best case scenario.
Plan B
Plan C
Plan D
Start a thread. But I like glow 's take in the recruiting thread.
Quote from: frozena pizza on March 23, 2018, 05:58:37 PM
Honestly I think one of the biggest factors working against Harry was the midseason transfer. You don't have time to log minutes and prove yourself against cupcakes and Wojo rightly was not interested in experimenting in a one possession game at Providence or Seton Hall. Knew this was probably coming but I still wish he had stayed as I think he never really got comfortable. Now go get someone good to fill the spot!
Luke was a midseason transfer and looked just fine from day one.
:-[
Quote from: spartan3186 on March 23, 2018, 04:17:32 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Guess I was a little early.
I think most here suspected you would be in the end. And most suspected it didn't or wouldn't go down exactly like you had been told. But he gowne.
I thought this guy was going to help us elevate another level. Good luck to him but he was not this year's springboard to success for whatever reason.
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2017/01/10/smu-transfer-harry-froling-picks-marquette/96388088/
(At SMU) Froling was disappointed with his role under Jankovich. He averaged 4.3 points and 3.2 rebounds in 14.6 minutes per game, appearing in 10 contests.
Ooops. Grass is always greener.
Froling had a lot of playing time when he got here and the team was urging him to do more. He just did not bring it.
One and dones under Wojo:
Harry, Wally, Carlino, Henry, Katin, Steve Taylor.
None and Dones: Gabe, Nick, Toddler
6 Months and Dones: Magic, Deonte
1.5 and Dones: Traci and Sandy
Next season is Wojo's year with his roster. That's a lot of quick turnover and not all bad as he builds his roster ...but the clock is running as it is all his guys now.
Probably works out best for both parties. Best of luck, Harry!
Quote from: willie warrior on March 23, 2018, 05:35:21 PM
Waiting for the Dude that he was a difference maker to speak up about Harry.
Crickets.
You may be referring to me. I think Tower stated it perfectly a few posts ago, but I thought Harry would be awesome here. I saw a big man who could stretch the floor and had a really nice stroke given his size. After his year of getting in shape I was even more bullish on Harry, but as has already been mentioned, he just didn't have the drive. He'd show flashes to get you excited, knock down a couple threes, make a really nice move in the post, but nothing materialized. It seemed like his teammates wanted it more for him than he himself.
Sucks it didn't work out, cause I thought he could have added a crazy dimension to this program, but I'll happily admit when I'm wrong. Fortunately we are loaded in the front court and can bring in a grad transfer and best transfer available this offseason.
What's this from .. 90 days ago ..
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=55033.0
Man,did coach Carawell mislead us. ;)
Quote from: #bansultan on March 23, 2018, 06:44:53 PM
Luke was a midseason transfer and looked just fine from day one.
I know it sounds like an excuse but I believe that foot injury put him at a big disadvantage, he missed like 2-3 months of practice. Did not have a chance to gel with the team, he looked lost. Can't really blame Wojo, why not go after a 6-11 guy who was a top 100 recruit.
Quote from: oneposthagans on March 23, 2018, 08:38:43 PM
You may be referring to me.
Jay Bilas seemed to think so too
I actually saw Harry tonight around 6 in the Apple store in Mayfair while I was getting my phone fixed, he was wearing MU gear and looking at iPhones and I was surprised to get on here to find out this news broke before I even saw him there. Best of luck to the kid
Quote from: TSmith34 on March 23, 2018, 10:07:40 PM
Jay Bilas seemed to think so too
I thought this as I read some Scoopers trashing those who initially were high on Froling.
Bilas is a pretty darn good analyst. He thought Froling was going to excel for us. He was wrong. It happens.
Froling was a 6-10, 6-11 kid with a decent shot and a nice nose for defensive rebounds. He was recruited by Larry Brown. He absolutely was worth a flyer.
He went 9 and 7 in his second game, had 8 rebs vs. X in his third game and there weren't a whole lot of Scoopers who were predicting he'd be garbage then.
He had a 3-game stretch midway through the conference season in which he averaged 8-6-2 while playing 23 mpg and shooting 69% to work his way into the starting lineup. He looked like he'd be at least as good as Heldt, who was benched.
That turned out to be the beginning of the end, though. Harry struggled mightily, was benched and never really regained his footing.
Still, he did hit two crucial 3's against Georgetown when the other bigs were in foul trouble. His teammates were telling him to shoot it, and they seemed absolutely thrilled for him. There was no faking how they felt about him.
So despite it all, he did make some good memories during his short time at MU - at least I hope that's how he feels.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 23, 2018, 04:11:49 PM
The Aussie Niv Berkowitz
There are REALLY big Marquette fans who don't remember Terry Sanders or Todd Townsend but know exactly who Niv is.
Quote from: jsglow on March 23, 2018, 05:21:05 PM
Let me say this though. All indications are that Harry worked hard, did what he was told, and was a good teammate. We all wish him future success. #mubb
Agreed. Good luck, Harry.
Quote from: jsglow on March 23, 2018, 05:21:05 PM
Let me say this though. All indications are that Harry worked hard, did what he was told, and was a good teammate. We all wish him future success. #mubb
Always looked like he was a class act personally. Good Luck Harry.
Quote from: MU82 on March 23, 2018, 10:58:17 PM
I thought this as I read some Scoopers trashing those who initially were high on Froling.
Bilas is a pretty darn good analyst. He thought Froling was going to excel for us. He was wrong. It happens.
Froling was a 6-10, 6-11 kid with a decent shot and a nice nose for defensive rebounds. He was recruited by Larry Brown. He absolutely was worth a flyer.
He went 9 and 7 in his second game, had 8 rebs vs. X in his third game and there weren't a whole lot of Scoopers who were predicting he'd be garbage then.
He had a 3-game stretch midway through the conference season in which he averaged 8-6-2 while playing 23 mpg and shooting 69% to work his way into the starting lineup. He looked like he'd be at least as good as Heldt, who was benched.
That turned out to be the beginning of the end, though. Harry struggled mightily, was benched and never really regained his footing.
Still, he did hit two crucial 3's against Georgetown when the other bigs were in foul trouble. His teammates were telling him to shoot it, and they seemed absolutely thrilled for him. There was no faking how they felt about him.
So despite it all, he did make some good memories during his short time at MU - at least I hope that's how he feels.
I'm thinking a large part of Bilas' opinion on Froling was taken from Wojo's opinion of Froling
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 23, 2018, 05:45:41 PM
Hot take alert
Not just a hot take, but a bad take
If Harry is Wojo's worst miss on the recruiting trail, I can live with that. No coach bats 1.000.
Lest we forget, the two previous coaches gave scholies to the likes of Kevin Menard, Bret Roseboro, Yousoupha Mbao and Niv Berkowitz.
Harry was a nice kid who just lacked the motor to become an effective player in the big east.
Loved his consoling of rowsey at the big east tournament when he had known he was already long gone. Best of lucky, harry!
Quote from: Pakuni on March 24, 2018, 07:59:41 AM
Not just a hot take, but a bad take
If Harry is Wojo's worst miss on the recruiting trail, I can live with that. No coach bats 1.000.
Lest we forget, the two previous coaches gave scholies to the likes of Kevin Menard, Bret Roseboro, Yousoupha Mbao and Niv Berkowitz.
+1
And to be fair, Harry did have some skills that no other big here had. His rebounding, passing, and even shooting was better than anyone else at the 5. His lack of defense and maybe being a step too slow prevented that from being enough.
Our roster build is such that him leaving doesn't put us in a bind... we're fine.
But, I refute the claim that he was a bust with little to no hope going forward... he gave us a look that Matt and Theo didn't.
Plus-rebounder, good size, with the ability on offense to face up and shoot from outside, as well as distribute.
There's a good chance he could have become a nice piece over the next two years. Would have been happy to see him stay.
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 24, 2018, 09:19:27 AM
Our roster build is such that him leaving doesn't put us in a bind... we're fine.
But, I refute the claim that he was a bust with little to no hope going forward... he gave us a look that Matt and Theo didn't.
Plus-rebounder, good size, with the ability on offense to face up and shoot from outside, as well as distribute.
There's a good chance he could have become a nice piece over the next two years. Would have been happy to see him stay.
Agree.
Quote from: The Lens on March 23, 2018, 11:59:21 PM
There are REALLY big Marquette fans who don't remember Terry Sanders or Todd Townsend but know exactly who Niv is.
We should remember Terry Sanders more often.
Good luck to Harry. Appreciative of his time here. Hoping he finds a good spot.
Fox Sports Australia reports that Harry will return home in the next week and their sources say he will hire an agent and go pro. Will this hurt MU's APR?
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 24, 2018, 09:19:27 AM
Our roster build is such that him leaving doesn't put us in a bind... we're fine.
But, I refute the claim that he was a bust with little to no hope going forward... he gave us a look that Matt and Theo didn't.
Plus-rebounder, good size, with the ability on offense to face up and shoot from outside, as well as distribute.
There's a good chance he could have become a nice piece over the next two years. Would have been happy to see him stay.
No, he was not a bust, he was just a Wojo mistake.
It has a Nev Berkowitz feel but lasted longer.
Quote from: #bansultan on March 23, 2018, 06:44:53 PM
Luke was a midseason transfer and looked just fine from day one.
Luke also had to play, since MU had very few players. Part of Froling's problem may have been not being able to play enough to get comfortable playing. It is not easy to start playing at the start of Big East season. I do not know, if it would of actually made a difference, but he needed to play against the so called bunny teams to get use to playing in real games.
Quote from: Nukem2 on March 24, 2018, 04:10:31 PM
Fox Sports Australia reports that Harry will return home in the next week and their sources say he will hire an agent and go pro. Will this hurt MU's APR?
I would have to imagine so. Finals aren't until the week of May 7.
Quote from: Nukem2 on March 24, 2018, 04:10:31 PM
Fox Sports Australia reports that Harry will return home in the next week and their sources say he will hire an agent and go pro. Will this hurt MU's APR?
Does the NBL have any kind of draft information available? I haven't been able to find much, but I would assume there has to be some kind of projected draft out there somewhere. Any ideas about what the prospects are like?
Quote from: skianth16 on March 24, 2018, 05:52:07 PM
Does the NBL have any kind of draft information available? I haven't been able to find much, but I would assume there has to be some kind of projected draft out there somewhere. Any ideas about what the prospects are like?
The NBL has a modest salary cap and a lot of that goes to former US G/D League players. Not going to get big bucks.
Quote from: Otule's Glass Eye on March 23, 2018, 10:28:59 PM
I actually saw Harry tonight around 6 in the Apple store in Mayfair while I was getting my phone fixed, he was wearing MU gear and looking at iPhones and I was surprised to get on here to find out this news broke before I even saw him there. Best of luck to the kid
Better to buy one in the US... Iphones are about 20% more expensive in Australia. On his Aussie pro salary, he'll need to save money because it's about the same as working at Starbucks.
Anyway, good luck to him and hope he continues to develop and finds a place where he can play the game, make some money and enjoy.
I read the NBL has a salary system that requires the bottom 5 salaries to total no more than $400,000.
I guess it's a way of preventing the richer clubs from filling the entire roster with more expensive talent.
Looking at this year's NBL rosters, JP Tokoto averaging around 15 points per game, and DJ Newbill around 14
Jamal Cain?
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on March 25, 2018, 09:29:33 AM
What about him?
Something I heard in relation to Harry. Wondered if anyone else heard anything.
Quote from: romey on March 25, 2018, 09:33:24 AM
Something I heard in relation to Harry. Wondered if anyone else heard anything.
Care to explain?
You insinuatin', hey?
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 25, 2018, 09:40:31 AM
Care to explain?
Not really. Unless someone corroborates, I'm not starting unfounded rumors. I'll wait because as far as I know, that's all it is - a rumor.
Quote from: romey on March 25, 2018, 09:49:01 AM
Not really. Unless someone corroborates, I'm not starting unfounded rumors. I'll wait because as far as I know, that's all it is - a rumor.
You haven't really outlined what you've heard so how can it be corroborated?
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 25, 2018, 09:49:57 AM
You haven't really outlined what you've heard so how can it be corroborated?
If someone else heard it, they'll know exactly what I mean. It's very specific.
Sounds juicey, hey?
Quote from: oldwarrior81 on March 24, 2018, 09:17:30 PM
I read the NBL has a salary system that requires the bottom 5 salaries to total no more than $400,000.
I guess it's a way of preventing the richer clubs from filling the entire roster with more expensive talent.
Looking at this year's NBL rosters, JP Tokoto averaging around 15 points per game, and DJ Newbill around 14
If guys of that caliber are putting up OK but not good numbers, I wonder if Harry will be able to land with a team. I'm sure their games have changed over the years, but to me, it seems like the quality of the league must be pretty good using Tokoto and Newbiill as the barometer.
Quote from: skianth16 on March 25, 2018, 10:10:46 AM
If guys of that caliber are putting up OK but not good numbers, I wonder if Harry will be able to land with a team. I'm sure their games have changed over the years, but to me, it seems like the quality of the league must be pretty good using Tokoto and Newbiill as the barometer.
nbl.com/players
Not a lot of names there.
I've watched quite a bit of NBL over the years because it was the only ball on TV in some of the places I lived. IMHO Harry's only chance is to grab a development slot. The bigs in that league - and each team seems to have 2 or 3 - are all his size and are seriously physical. Lots of 6'7-6'9 guys who can shoot, too. David Anderson is one of my favorites.
https://basketball.realgm.com/international/league/5/Australian-NBL/players
Spreading unfounded rumors is dumb and dangerous. I appreciate the discretion.
Quote from: romey on March 25, 2018, 09:56:27 AM
If someone else heard it, they'll know exactly what I mean. It's very specific.
Reading between the lines, I sure HOPE this rumor is false. There were times over the course of the season I sensed some frustration on Jamal's part.
Quote from: willie warrior on March 24, 2018, 04:14:13 PM
No, he was not a bust, he was just a Wojo mistake.
If he is a Wojo "mistake" then we are good hands. We took a player with an open scholarship and a unique skill set. That player is now going home to go pro. Not much of a "mistake" in my opinion.
Quote from: BallBoy on March 25, 2018, 11:41:15 AM
If he is a Wojo "mistake" then we are good hands. We took a player with an open scholarship and a unique skill set. That player is now going home to go pro. Not much of a "mistake" in my opinion.
And, Brett Nelson was the point man on Harry's recruitment out of HS and the transfer. And, yes, I get that Wojo has the ultimate say. But, the assistants often sell the HC on a player.
Quote from: Nukem2 on March 25, 2018, 11:58:21 AM
And, Brett Nelson was the point man on Harry's recruitment out of HS and the transfer. And, yes, I get that Wojo has the ultimate say. But, the assistants often sell the HC on a player.
Makes total sense to take on as a project. Nelson is a shot doctor. If he thought he could get a 6'11" guy shooting at 40%+ by his junior/senior year while rounding out other parts of his game, the upside there is worth the minimal "risk" since a scholly was open anyway
Harry is exactly the type of player you take a chance on. They rolled the dice. It did not work out. Now, assuming status quo, Marquette goes into next year with Matt, Theo, and Ike at the 5. We've had much worse.
Quote from: tower912 on March 25, 2018, 12:59:30 PM
Harry is exactly the type of player you take a chance on. They rolled the dice. It did not work out. Now, assuming status quo, Marquette goes into next year with Matt, Theo, and Ike at the 5. We've had much worse.
I'm thinking Morrow will see a good amount of time at the 5 too
I am seeing fewer minutes for Sam at the 3, probably healthier for him. I am seeing more pressure from defense and more frequent substitutions. I can see a 3 forward lineup of Sam, Morrow, and Joey/Bailey with lots of switching that may leave Morrow on a 5 for a moment. But I don't really see him with extended minutes at the 5.
Quote from: tower912 on March 25, 2018, 01:32:15 PM
I am seeing fewer minutes for Sam at the 3, probably healthier for him. I am seeing more pressure from defense and more frequent substitutions. I can see a 3 forward lineup of Sam, Morrow, and Joey/Bailey with lots of switching that may leave Morrow on a 5 for a moment. But I don't really see him with extended minutes at the 5.
I think the definition of a 4 and 5 are changing. With the advent of the stretch four, either you are a big on the outside or you are a big on the inside. Morrow fits more of the big on the inside so I see him playing that role as the "five" on the court with Joey and Sam next to him.
Quote from: Floorslapper on March 25, 2018, 11:04:38 AM
Reading between the lines, I sure HOPE this rumor is false. There were times over the course of the season I sensed some frustration on Jamal's part.
I did not hear anything regarding the possibility of Jamal transferring. I don't want that speculation to begin on my account.
Quote from: romey on March 25, 2018, 02:40:22 PM
I did not hear anything regarding the possibility of Jamal transferring. I don't want that speculation to begin on my account.
So what did you hear?
Quote from: romey on March 25, 2018, 02:40:22 PM
I did not hear anything regarding the possibility of Jamal transferring. I don't want that speculation to begin on my account.
Thanks for the clarification. Glad to hear that. Jamal has a bright future at MU.
The most likely scenario in Froling coming here was always that he may only be here for 1 year. If he had a lot of success, he was likely gone to go pro somewhere (unless he though 1 more year would assure him an NBA slot). If he didn't have a lot of success, likely was going pro back in Australia.
We got a chance to roll the dice and hope he had a lot of success. He underperformed, we have an extra spot for next year.
Quote from: tower912 on March 25, 2018, 01:32:15 PM
I am seeing fewer minutes for Sam at the 3, probably healthier for him. I am seeing more pressure from defense and more frequent substitutions. I can see a 3 forward lineup of Sam, Morrow, and Joey/Bailey with lots of switching that may leave Morrow on a 5 for a moment. But I don't really see him with extended minutes at the 5.
The UofD grads/fans I know say Ike is more of a 3 than a 5. They say he can absolutely play with Heldt or Theo which would give us some great options
There aren't minutes at the 3.
Quote from: swoopem on March 25, 2018, 03:35:11 PM
The UofD grads/fans I know say Ike is more of a 3 than a 5. They say he can absolutely play with Heldt or Theo which would give us some great options
I think Ike is going to need to find minutes the way Sacar found a few as a Frosh. 'Whatever you need me for coach.'
Quote from: jsglow on March 26, 2018, 08:22:45 AM
I think Ike is going to need to find minutes the way Sacar found a few as a Frosh. 'Whatever you need me for coach.'
Has Ike started to work out yet? If he wants to get anytime next year he needs to play.
Quote from: BallBoy on March 25, 2018, 11:41:15 AM
If he is a Wojo "mistake" then we are good hands. We took a player with an open scholarship and a unique skill set. That player is now going home to go pro. Not much of a "mistake" in my opinion.
Of course he was a mistake. Saying that he is becoming a pro--which nobody knows yet--does not erase the fact that he did not come close to what we were told he would be, and what he turned out to be with the team.
I think the problem that Harry had was that he wasn't given much of a run to get the rust off before conference play, where you won't get time to de-rust. People compare him to Luke because they were both mid-season transfer big men, but Luke came in and 1) was immediately a large part of the offense (Averaged almost 8 shots per game in his first 4 games, compared to 3.5 for Harry), and 2) Luke got major minutes against more mid majors before conference play started (4 games vs 2).
I realize that in Harry's first game Northern Illinois played us closer than we expected, but I still think Harry should have gotten more than 3 minutes. Remember, this was a time when Theo was a foul machine (4 fouls in 14 min vs Northern Ill) and Matt was still Matt (A serviceable back up but nothing more, and 2 points in 25 minutes vs Northern Ill). Just being able to see the ball go through the net is a big factor in these kids confidence (see 1982 final with Patrick Ewing and Georgetown). I wouldn't have minded if Harry took 10-12 shots and had 3-4 turnovers, if he had scored 10-15 points (assuming we still get the W). I realize that he got 20 minutes vs American in the final non conference tune up, but 24 minutes of total basketball before conference play is not a recipe for success.
He still might not have had what it takes to be a Big East player, a lot of kids just don't, but the lack of playing time in his debut certainly did not help his chances, and this was evident later in the season when he appeared afraid to shoot the ball. At least we'll still always have Georgetown. Best of luck to you in the future Harry, I wish you success wherever you end up.
Quote from: willie warrior on March 26, 2018, 08:44:50 AM
Of course he was a mistake. Saying that he is becoming a pro--which nobody knows yet--does not erase the fact that he did not come close to what we were told he would be, and what he turned out to be with the team.
First off, have you ever liked anything MU does. I feel MU could replace Wojo with Al Macguire's corpse, who takes them to a national championship, and you would complain he wasn't lively enough.
Second, find a quote from Wojo that says Frolling is going to be the next coming of Jesus. He talks about his unique skill set and that he brings something different and could fill an Ellenson type role. We as fans anointed him as the savior. You are happy that he failed because now you can say Mu/Wojo are failures. As far as we truly know Wojo could have recruited him as the 11th man.
Finally, if this is such a horrendous mistake as you try to make it out to be then we are in very good hands. If this is the biggest mistake Wojo makes, I will be elated. 10th man leaves for a better opportunity. He was also likely to fall in playing time as others got healthy.
Quote from: Its DJOver on March 26, 2018, 09:26:25 AM
I think the problem that Harry had was that he wasn't given much of a run to get the rust off before conference play, where you won't get time to de-rust. People compare him to Luke because they were both mid-season transfer big men, but Luke came in and 1) was immediately a large part of the offense (Averaged almost 8 shots per game in his first 4 games, compared to 3.5 for Harry), and 2) Luke got major minutes against more mid majors before conference play started (4 games vs 2).
I think we are going out of our way to make excuses for the guy. Look, he just wasn't as good as advertised. I don't think we are missing out on some uncut diamond.
Furthermore, with the rumors regarding his suspension a few weeks ago, the fact that he was suddenly stapled to the bench, and the fact Wojo didn't mention him at all in Ben Steele's season wrap up piece shows that perhaps his issues weren't entirely basketball related.
Quote from: #bansultan on March 26, 2018, 10:10:54 AM
I think we are going out of our way to make excuses for the guy. Look, he just wasn't as good as advertised. I don't think we are missing out on some uncut diamond.
Furthermore, with the rumors regarding his suspension a few weeks ago, the fact that he was suddenly stapled to the bench, and the fact Wojo didn't mention him at all in Ben Steele's season wrap up piece shows that perhaps his issues weren't entirely basketball related.
I think you're maybe reaching there Sultan. We really have no credible evidence that Harry was in any kind of doghouse. I do wish he had stayed to finish out the semester but that's another issue.
Quote from: #bansultan on March 26, 2018, 10:10:54 AM
I think we are going out of our way to make excuses for the guy. Look, he just wasn't as good as advertised. I don't think we are missing out on some uncut diamond.
Furthermore, with the rumors regarding his suspension a few weeks ago, the fact that he was suddenly stapled to the bench, and the fact Wojo didn't mention him at all in Ben Steele's season wrap up piece shows that perhaps his issues weren't entirely basketball related.
If you would have quoted my entire post, you would have seen that I said that he still might not have had it. Harry was at a distinct disadvantage due to his mid season transfer. I don't think any of the true freshman, or freshman by experience (Sacar) would have had nearly as productive years in conference if they had only gotten 25 minutes of non conference play.
Harry was also at a disadvantage playing a position that takes longer to develop. Not trying to make excuses for the guy, but we all say mid season transfer big, and thought and expected Luke, or we saw supposed Henry like skill set and thought and expected Henry. Both of those were unfair expectations to put on Harry.
Quote from: #bansultan on March 26, 2018, 10:10:54 AM
I think we are going out of our way to make excuses for the guy. Look, he just wasn't as good as advertised. I don't think we are missing out on some uncut diamond.
Furthermore, with the rumors regarding his suspension a few weeks ago, the fact that he was suddenly stapled to the bench, and the fact Wojo didn't mention him at all in Ben Steele's season wrap up piece shows that perhaps his issues weren't entirely basketball related.
Obviously Harry has some limitations. But, to be fair, he was rehabbing during the off-season due to his foot injury so he did not get much off-season development at his new weight. Also, he had to sit the first semester, so he was on the scout team as opposed to working with the regular rotation. So, he did have a lot of rust and just never fit in though he did have some flashes. All irrelevant as he is gone now. We never knew ya mate.
Quote from: #bansultan on March 26, 2018, 10:10:54 AM
Furthermore, with the rumors regarding his suspension a few weeks ago, the fact that he was suddenly stapled to the bench, and the fact Wojo didn't mention him at all in Ben Steele's season wrap up piece shows that perhaps his issues weren't entirely basketball related.
Ding!
I wish Harry well, but it's best for both parties to move on.
Been checked out since the loss.
A little bummed to see Froling leave, but hardly surprised. I think MU can improve upon that spot, but I sure hope that they do (rather than banking). Cam Marotta is cool and all, but let's use the scholarship on an upgrade. A traditional transfer or two grads would be fine with me.
Quote from: BallBoy on March 26, 2018, 09:36:48 AM
First off, have you ever liked anything MU does. I feel MU could replace Wojo with Al Macguire's corpse, who takes them to a national championship, and you would complain he wasn't lively enough.
Second, find a quote from Wojo that says Frolling is going to be the next coming of Jesus. He talks about his unique skill set and that he brings something different and could fill an Ellenson type role. We as fans anointed him as the savior. You are happy that he failed because now you can say Mu/Wojo are failures. As far as we truly know Wojo could have recruited him as the 11th manO.
Finally, if this is such a horrendous mistake as you try to make it out to be then we are in very good hands. If this is the biggest mistake Wojo makes, I will be elated. 10th man leaves for a better opportunity. He was also likely to fall in playing time as others got healthy.
Yeah, I have been liking MU since Don Kojis and Dick Nixon played. Long before you ever heard of MU. But that does not mean that I will not point out mistakes, because I want the best at MU, and we ain't getting that right now.
Quote from: BallBoy on March 26, 2018, 09:36:48 AM
First off, have you ever liked anything MU does. I feel MU could replace Wojo with Al Macguire's corpse, who takes them to a national championship, and you would complain he wasn't lively enough.
Second, find a quote from Wojo that says Frolling is going to be the next coming of Jesus. He talks about his unique skill set and that he brings something different and could fill an Ellenson type role. We as fans anointed him as the savior. You are happy that he failed because now you can say Mu/Wojo are failures. As far as we truly know Wojo could have recruited him as the 11th man.
Finally, if this is such a horrendous mistake as you try to make it out to be then we are in very good hands. If this is the biggest mistake Wojo makes, I will be elated. 10th man leaves for a better opportunity. He was also likely to fall in playing time as others got healthy.
And BTW, please brush up your spinmeistering because your take on Froling/Wojo here is weak sauce.
Hate to see him go because I have this nagging feeling that there was something there if given an opportunity to develop. I understand opinions to the contrary since we didn't see it all that much on the court. I wish Harry the best.
The good news is we have people in the rotation at that spot, so it should not be too damaging to the team. Hope we can find an adept ball handler to take that scholarship.
Quote from: BallBoy on March 26, 2018, 09:36:48 AM
First off, have you ever liked anything MU does. I feel MU could replace Wojo with Al Macguire's corpse, who takes them to a national championship, and you would complain he wasn't lively enough.
Well you are certainly not wrong about this.
Quote from: willie warrior on March 26, 2018, 01:15:04 PM
Yeah, I have been liking MU since Don Kojis and Dick Nixon played. Long before you ever heard of MU. But that does not mean that I will not point out mistakes, because I want the best at MU, and we ain't getting that right now.
So being older is equal to having a more credible POV on MU hoops? If one MU player in the last decade could tell you who Don Kojis and Dick Nixon were I'll buy you a bottle of 30yr old. Tenure means about the same in fandom as it does in the public school system........
Quote from: naginiF on March 26, 2018, 10:52:35 PM
Well you are certainly not wrong about this.
So being older is equal to having a more credible POV on MU hoops? If one MU player in the last decade could tell you who Don Kojis and Dick Nixon were I'll buy you a bottle of 30yr old. Tenure means about the same in fandom as it does in the public school system........
Never said that--you did. Person asked me if there was anything I liked about MU Hoops. I responded on how long have been following them. You brought up the rest. And speaking of tenure, which you brought up, there is plenty of that going on in all aspects of society. Kind of like the excuses offered for Wojo, "He needs more tenure"
Quote from: naginiF on March 26, 2018, 10:52:35 PM
Well you are certainly not wrong about this.
So being older is equal to having a more credible POV on MU hoops? If one MU player in the last decade could tell you who Don Kojis and Dick Nixon were I'll buy you a bottle of 30yr old. Tenure means about the same in fandom as it does in the public school system........
Don Kojis was at the alumni game last year and was quite popular with all the players. At age 77 he is still in great shape. Was truly one of our all time greatest players.
Quote from: willie warrior on March 26, 2018, 10:57:48 PMPerson asked me if there was anything I liked about MU Hoops. I responded on how long have been following them.
That's a non-sequitor. There is no relation between the question and your answer.
"Do you like anything about Marquette basketball?"
"I'm old!"
That's like saying "hospital food" when asked your favorite color, or "eighty-three" when asked if you are a dog or cat person. Simply saying you've been around for awhile doesn't give any indicator that you like something.
Quote from: Herman Cain on March 27, 2018, 12:01:41 AM
Don Kojis was at the alumni game last year and was quite popular with all the players. At age 77 he is still in great shape. Was truly one of our all time greatest players.
Yeah I thought the idea that current players have no idea who Don Kojis is to be a little off. I mean, his banner is in the rafters.
Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on March 25, 2018, 01:13:23 PM
I'm thinking Morrow will see a good amount of time at the 5 too
Morrow is hoping not. Playing the five had a lot to do with his transfer from Nebraska. He'd like to spend his time at the three.
Quote from: Herman Cain on March 27, 2018, 12:01:41 AM
Don Kojis was at the alumni game last year and was quite popular with all the players. At age 77 he is still in great shape. Was truly one of our all time greatest players.
Does he have any eligibility left? We could use another "old" player!
Quote from: 4everCrean on March 27, 2018, 09:18:19 AM
Morrow is hoping not. Playing the five had a lot to do with his transfer from Nebraska. He'd like to spend his time at the three.
Okay, well he's never even attempted a three pointer in his 53 game college career. If he's a SF this coming season then Brett Nelson needs to be the highest paid assistant in college hoops (assuming he's the one credited with everyone's shooting improvement).
When I say "time at the 5" I mean he'll guard the 5 in a lineup of the Hausers guarding the 3/4 and some combo of Howard/Elliott/Cain/Sacar guarding the 1/2. A stretch 5 in a 10-20 MPG-Depending-On-Matchups-Death-Lineup, if you will.
Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on March 27, 2018, 09:35:00 AM
Okay, well he's never even attempted a three pointer in his 53 game college career. If he's a SF this coming season then Brett Nelson needs to be the highest paid assistant in college hoops (assuming he's the one credited with everyone's shooting improvement).
When I say "time at the 5" I mean he'll guard the 5 in a lineup of the Hausers guarding the 3/4 and some combo of Howard/Elliott/Cain/Sacar guarding the 1/2. A stretch 5 in a 10-20 MPG-Depending-On-Matchups-Death-Lineup, if you will.
Jamal McKay wanted to play forward to, left MU, and played center at Iowa St., sometimes it does not work out. I expect Joey to play some center at times on the O
end and Morrow center on D. Can play with three forwards and 2 guards, and right now at MU it might be 4 forwards and 1 guard. Morrow and Joey are big enough to handle most centers.
Positions no matta.
He gets introduced as a forward and he plays both inside and outside the lane depending on matchups.
Quote from: MU82 on March 27, 2018, 09:50:29 AM
Positions no matta.
He gets introduced as a forward and he plays both inside and outside the lane depending on matchups.
And may guard a post position when they go small. But I don't think that will be often.
Quote from: #bansultan on March 27, 2018, 08:32:11 AM
Yeah I thought the idea that current players have no idea who Don Kojis is to be a little off. I mean, his banner is in the rafters.
I accept that my posturing about current players not knowing some of the players that are important to the program, but also, 60 years older than them was miss asserted. But my point that Willies' posturing that his opinion is more valid because he's old is spot on.
Per the Townsville Bulletin, Harry has signed with the Townsville Heat and hopes to go in the 2019 NBA draft.
Quote from: Nukem2 on April 04, 2018, 10:32:08 AM
Per the Townsville Bulletin, Harry has signed with the Townsville Heat and hopes to go in the 2019 NBA draft.
He is playing in the australian version of the g league. Hopes to make it to the NBL.
https://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/sport/townsville-basketball-star-harry-froling-set-to-begin-professional-career-with-townsville-heat/news-story/70c273faf8baa9dce9d3d372c3d0675f
Quote from: Nukem2 on April 04, 2018, 10:32:08 AM
Per the Townsville Bulletin, Harry has signed with the Townsville Heat and hopes to go in the 2019 NBA draft.
well, at least that means 1 APR point back.
Quote from: Nukem2 on April 04, 2018, 10:32:08 AM
Per the Townsville Bulletin, Harry has signed with the Townsville Heat and hopes to go in the 2019 NBA draft.
Can't see the court for a non-NCAA invite team and he thinks he'll get drafted by the NBA next year? K
Quote from: TSmith34 on April 04, 2018, 11:18:58 AM
Can't see the court for a non-NCAA invite team and he thinks he'll get drafted by the NBA next year? K
I mean what do you expect the kid to say? He clearly wants to play in NBA, like just about any other kid playing D1 ball or professionally (but not in the NBA).
I too found the comment comical, but I guess I get it.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 27, 2018, 12:16:19 AM
That's a non-sequitor. There is no relation between the question and your answer.
"Do you like anything about Marquette basketball?"
"I'm old!"
That's like saying "hospital food" when asked your favorite color, or "eighty-three" when asked if you are a dog or cat person. Simply saying you've been around for awhile doesn't give any indicator that you like something.
#83nation
Quote from: Herman Cain on April 04, 2018, 10:42:31 AM
He is playing in the australian version of the g league. Hopes to make it to the NBL.
https://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/sport/townsville-basketball-star-harry-froling-set-to-begin-professional-career-with-townsville-heat/news-story/70c273faf8baa9dce9d3d372c3d0675f
And, its actually a semi-pro league reading the wiki page for the QBL.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 04, 2018, 11:36:16 AM
I mean what do you expect the kid to say? He clearly wants to play in NBA, like just about any other kid playing D1 ball or professionally (but not in the NBA).
I too found the comment comical, but I guess I get it.
I want to be the an opening day starting pitcher in the MLB next year. But, seeing as I haven't pitched since high school...
If he really thinks he has a shot at getting darted in '19 he is going to be extremely disappointed.
Quote from: TSmith34 on April 04, 2018, 01:32:48 PM
I want to be the an opening day starting pitcher in the MLB next year. But, seeing as I haven't pitched since high school...
If he really thinks he has a shot at getting darted in '19 he is going to be extremely disappointed.
To be fair, his odds of being darted are probably higher than his odds of being drafted.
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on April 04, 2018, 01:36:49 PM
To be fair, his odds of being darted are probably higher than his odds of being drafted.
What he said.
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on April 04, 2018, 01:36:49 PM
To be fair, his odds of being darted are probably higher than his odds of being drafted.
Harry "The Animal" Froling
I've played pickup ball with a lot of guys from this level of competition in Australia. You could get better competition during lunch buckets at most YMCA's. Having said that, their season starts in a couple weeks, goes through the NBL offseason, and a lot of the NBL fringe players go "home" to play in these state leagues so at least there's a few big guys and some competition. It's only a good thing if it gets him an NBL slot for next season.
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on April 04, 2018, 01:36:49 PM
To be fair, his odds of being darted are probably higher than his odds of being drafted.
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Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on April 05, 2018, 09:57:14 PM
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God, I miss Jarts...
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on April 05, 2018, 11:57:10 PM
God, I miss Jarts...
Anyone else ever make lighter fluid fueled cannons as kids by duct taping soda cans together?
Quote from: TSmith34 on April 06, 2018, 07:44:42 AM
Anyone else ever make lighter fluid fueled cannons as kids by duct taping soda cans together?
Tennis ball cans were far superior
If it blows up ive made it
Quote from: TSmith34 on April 06, 2018, 07:44:42 AM
Anyone else ever make lighter fluid fueled cannons as kids by duct taping soda cans together?
It became an obsession on the 12th floor McCormick in 1973
Steel cans from "Jolly Good" soda bought at Sava-ON-Foods
With a 7-8 can barrel, launched at a 45 degree angle from the 12th floor hallway window, you could clear Wisconsin Ave. on the fly.
Quote from: StateStreetMission on April 06, 2018, 08:38:10 AM
It became an obsession on the 12th floor McCormick in 1973
Steel cans from "Jolly Good" soda bought at Sava-ON-Foods
With a 7-8 can barrel, launched at a 45 degree angle from the 12th floor hallway window, you could clear Wisconsin Ave. on the fly.
And the administration wants to tear down this fine hall of intellectual prowess. SMDH.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on April 06, 2018, 08:41:08 AM
And the administration wants to tear down this fine hall of intellectual prowess. SMDH.
Did anyone see the epic burn Marquette put on some guy that was mourning the drunken good old days at McCormick and calling the current students "soft"?
https://twitter.com/MarquetteU/status/981725008459370496
I wonder if this is one of you guys.
Quote from: warriorchick on April 06, 2018, 09:04:03 AM
Did anyone see the epic burn Marquette put on some guy that was mourning the drunken good old days at McCormick and calling the current students "soft"?
https://twitter.com/MarquetteU/status/981725008459370496
I wonder if this is one of you guys.
God I love Twitter.
Incredible. And it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
Quote from: warriorchick on April 06, 2018, 09:04:03 AM
Did anyone see the epic burn Marquette put on some guy that was mourning the drunken good old days at McCormick and calling the current students "soft"?
https://twitter.com/MarquetteU/status/981725008459370496
I wonder if this is one of you guys.
That dude is unbearable on twitter.
You guys have no idea......
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on April 06, 2018, 08:08:24 AM
Tennis ball cans were far superior
That's what I'm talking about. The lighter fluid fumes fired the tennis balls
Quote from: burger on April 06, 2018, 10:36:29 AM
You guys have no idea......
....how many pointless dots I can cram into every post
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 06, 2018, 09:47:24 AM
That dude is unbearable on twitter.
He literally hates everything about MU basketball. Unless they are undefeated. Then he only dislikes the coaches.
Quote from: warriorchick on April 06, 2018, 09:04:03 AM
Did anyone see the epic burn Marquette put on some guy that was mourning the drunken good old days at McCormick and calling the current students "soft"?
https://twitter.com/MarquetteU/status/981725008459370496
I wonder if this is one of you guys.
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Quote from: Warrior Code on April 06, 2018, 09:32:53 AM
Incredible. And it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
then he chimes in on the double down.
Jim Cotting
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Back when I was a Marquette student, Fr Donnelly used to personally deliver copies of the Western Civilization exams to the BBall Team in McCormick so that we could all 'support' the student athletes
Twitta Tracka
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Wonder which bball player banged his high school girlfriend?
(Wocky, fix the HTML code for me, bro)
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 06, 2018, 09:47:24 AM
That dude is unbearable on twitter.
^^^ yus
PS - who are you on twitter?
Quote from: Jay Bee on April 06, 2018, 06:55:04 PM
^^^ yus
PS - who are you on twitter?
That should be pretty easy to figure out.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on April 06, 2018, 12:09:19 PM
then he chimes in on the double down.
Jim Cotting
@JimCotting
Apr 5
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Back when I was a Marquette student, Fr Donnelly used to personally deliver copies of the Western Civilization exams to the BBall Team in McCormick so that we could all 'support' the student athletes
Twitta Tracka
[/glow][/color]
Wonder which bball player banged his high school girlfriend?
(Wocky, fix the HTML code for me, bro)
Twitter Tracker just isn't for you.
Quote from: TSmith34 on April 06, 2018, 07:44:42 AM
Anyone else ever make lighter fluid fueled cannons as kids by duct taping soda cans together?
M-80's, a steel tube and a tennis ball or i'll never forget the epic bottle rocket fights at delta kai. a cardboard wrapping paper tube and a bottle rocket strategically aimed toward your foe...that could have ended badly so many times
Quote from: rocket surgeon on April 07, 2018, 06:45:27 AM
M-80's, a steel tube and a tennis ball or i'll never forget the epic bottle rocket fights at delta kai. a cardboard wrapping paper tube and a bottle rocket strategically aimed toward your foe...that could have ended badly so many times
Epic bottle rocket war on Schroeder 10S. Mike Brown would snap the stem off, light it, and push it through the grate above your door and into your room. Eggert at the end of the hallway with a Roman candle.
Quote from: TSmith34 on April 06, 2018, 07:44:42 AM
Anyone else ever make lighter fluid fueled cannons as kids by duct taping soda cans together?
Oh yes, and a father of one of the kids in the neighborhood was a chem eng in a refinery, so we used to get great stuff like benzine.
Quote from: warriorchick on April 06, 2018, 09:04:03 AM
Did anyone see the epic burn Marquette put on some guy that was mourning the drunken good old days at McCormick and calling the current students "soft"?
https://twitter.com/MarquetteU/status/981725008459370496
I wonder if this is one of you guys.
Yes as some have said here this guy is a total prick to MU on twitter I've wondered if he is just a troll and not a real alumnus.
Quote from: TSmith34 on April 06, 2018, 07:44:42 AM
Anyone else ever make lighter fluid fueled cannons as kids by duct taping soda cans together?
Yes. Absolutely! :-)