MUScoop
MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: tower912 on March 22, 2018, 02:57:15 PM
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So, who was the MVP this year? Do you go on consistency or most SotG wins?
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I voted Sam. We won plenty of games when either Howard or Rowsey were off. Very few when Sam was off.
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I thought Sam was our best all around player, but I voted Rowsey as MVP. He's the guy whose loss we would have felt the most.
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Sam. When he was good, we were good. When he wasn't, we weren't. And he was the only guy who was a plus player on both ends.
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Andrew Rowsey. To a large degree, this team reflected the way he played. At his best, Rowsey was virtually unstoppable on offense and one of the most exciting players I've witnessed in a Marquette uniform. Yet he could also be streaky and defense was a huge deficiency.
My hope is that Sam Hauser is our unquestioned MVP next season, in part because he sets the tone for the way the team plays.
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Total value, Sam.
Offensive value, Andrew.
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I thought Sam was our best all around player, but I voted Rowsey as MVP. He's the guy whose loss we would have felt the most.
My thoughts exactly.
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I thought Sam was our best all around player, but I voted Rowsey as MVP. He's the guy whose loss we would have felt the most.
Did you watch MU struggle to break the press against Harvard with Sam on the bench?
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Sam. Here's my thought experiment: If those three are on the floor together, and you have to take one out, which replacement sees the biggest dropoff? I think Sam because he's a two-way stud. Wasn't there some numbers going around that when Rowsey is out our efficiency margin went up?
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Did you watch MU struggle to break the press against Harvard with Sam on the bench?
Did you watch the two minutes of no Rowsey when Elliot played pg this year ?
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Did you watch MU struggle to break the press against Harvard with Sam on the bench?
We struggled to break the press this season no matter who was on the floor....
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We struggled to break the press this season no matter who was on the floor....
Sam was far and away our best player in breaking the press.
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I thought Sam was our best all around player, but I voted Rowsey as MVP. He's the guy whose loss we would have felt the most.
I voted Haani. He's the guy whose loss we felt the most, especially on defense.
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Sam was far and away our best player in breaking the press.
We sucked against the press no matter who we had in. We simply saw Sam being involved in many of the few instances where we broke it because Wojo positioned him as the outlet (aka the tall guy near midcourt). It could have been Matt or Theo if Wojo had just positioned the guys differently.
Don't get me wrong - I LOVE Sam's overall game. But the one guy who did the most to break the press was AR.
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We sucked against the press no matter who we had in. We simply saw Sam being involved in many of the few instances where we broke it because Wojo positioned him as the outlet (aka the tall guy near midcourt). It could have been Matt or Theo if Wojo had just positioned the guys differently.
Don't get me wrong - I LOVE Sam's overall game. But the one guy who did the most to break the press was AR.
No one person breaks a press. Sam's good decision making means that when he is involved in the press breaking we are usually successful. Anyone that has a high basketball IQ can break a press. Andrew has one, but Sam is also 9 inches taller, so it is easier for him to make the right play.
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No one person breaks a press. Sam's good decision making means that when he is involved in the press breaking we are usually successful. Anyone that has a high basketball IQ can break a press. Andrew has one, but Sam is also 9 inches taller, so it is easier for him to make the right play.
I agree that no one person breaks a press (except maybe Tony Miller against UK in '94). I was simply responding to a post claiming that "Sam was far and away our best player in breaking the press."
If standing where you coach tells you to stand and then catching a pass makes you "far and away our best player" in that regard, so be it. But I happen to think that Andrew was more important, because he had to do most of the dribbling and passing.
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Did you watch the two minutes of no Rowsey when Elliot played pg this year ?
Drop the mic. Rowsey.
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Sam, easy call IMHO. Rowdy was better offensively but not by nearly as much as Sam was better defensively.
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I thought Sam was our best all around player, but I voted Rowsey as MVP. He's the guy whose loss we would have felt the most.
I agree with this but in reality losing either Sam or Rowsey would have been disastrous
I voted Rowsey
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I voted Andrew. Sam's injury finally took its toll and by the end of the season he was a shadow. Had Sam remained healthy, he might have gotten my vote.
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As much as I like Sam as a player, I'd have to go with Rowsey as MVP.
He played the most important position on the floor, got better at it as the season went along to the point where he actually played it well most nights, and also hit some bodacious shots for us.
His defense really, really sucked, so it's not that easy a choice for me, but AR-30 broke freakin' Wade's single-season scoring record, led us in scoring and assists, etc etc etc.
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No MVP when we lose.
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Sam, most complete player who understands team play.
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Tough call. Lots of good points for Sam and Rowsey. Picked Sam. Rowsey is like the great car stereo that draws lots of interest and makes things fun, while Sam is the engine that makes things go. (yeah, the analogy sucks, but I'm hung over and its way too early in the morning)
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I voted Haani. He's the guy whose loss we felt the most, especially on defense.
You mean the guy who couldn't get off the bench towards the end of last year?
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You mean the guy who couldn't get off the bench towards the end of last year?
I certainly would not call him our MVP...but FWIW, the personnel was very different last year - lots more length in the backcourt with Duane and JJJ. In particular, JJJ stepped up toward the end of the season. When this year started, Haani was once again getting plenty of minutes (26.2 mpg) before he transferred.
So while he isn't our MVP...it's plausible that his defense might just have turned a couple of Losses into Wins.
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FWIW, Markus easily led the team in KenPom MVP's this season.
#M2N
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FWIW, Markus easily led the team in KenPom MVP's this season.
#M2N
Markus had a knack for being our best player in losses. Wichita St, Georgia, Villanova 1, Xavier 2, Butler 2 all come to mind.
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If there was a way to do +/- for individuals only (not while on court with the other four guys) I would love to see it. I feel like Rowsey's incredible offense gave up so much defensively. Howard similar, but at least Howard took a charge every once in a while. Sam's defense was better than both, but still not great and the hip didn't help.
Tough to pick which of the three.
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Markus had a knack for being our best player in losses. Wichita St, Georgia, Villanova 1, Xavier 2, Butler 2 all come to mind.
I guess there are two ways to look at that: he was our best player in losses, or he was our best player against the best opponents....