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Title: Ed Morrow
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on March 22, 2018, 11:37:59 AM
So what do people think are realistic expectations for Morrow next season, both in terms of his numbers and his overall impact on the floor and on the team?

He averaged 9.4 ppg, 7.5 rpg, and 1.1 bpg in a little over 23 mpg his last season at Nebraska. 

I'd expect him to play closer to 28-32 mpg if he can stay out of foul trouble.  He's had a year to work on things and continue to get better.  I'm not aware if he was considered to be a good defensive player.  He didn't take a single 3 at Nebraska so while he may have expanded his range I doubt he'll stretch the floor.   

I would think 12/8 with a block are reasonable expectations, perhaps with a little room for more. 

More importantly, will a consistent inside presence and a really good rebounder have a larger impact on our team because we missed that kind of presence this season? 

Curious about what people's expectations and thoughts are. 
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: Boozemon Barro on March 22, 2018, 11:39:48 AM
I'm excited to see a post player that can catch a pass in the lane and finish.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: CTWarrior on March 22, 2018, 11:41:49 AM
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on March 22, 2018, 11:39:48 AM
I'm excited to see a post player that can catch a pass in the lane and finish.

+1,000,000.  Every pass on a drive and dish to Heldt, John or Froling is more likely to fail than succeed.  It is a killer when those fail.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: Floorslapper on March 22, 2018, 11:46:06 AM
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on March 22, 2018, 11:39:48 AM
I'm excited to see a post player that can catch a pass in the lane and finish.

Some reports have said he's been the best player in practice this year.  Similar comments were made about Rowsey the year he sat out.  Obviously is being counted on to provide a big lift next year, and is a big reason for the optimism that many have regarding our team next year.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 22, 2018, 11:46:48 AM
12 and 8 is what I was expecting. A true banger excited to see him next to Theo I think it'll be deadly down low

Quote from: Floorslapper on March 22, 2018, 11:46:06 AM
Some reports have said he's been the best player in practice this year.  Similar comments were made about Rowsey the year he sat out.  Obviously is being counted on to provide a big lift next year, and is a big reason for the optimism that many have regarding our team next year.

People also said that about Jamil wilson
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: skianth16 on March 22, 2018, 11:47:38 AM
Gaining Ed and losing Rowsey will have a huge, huge impact on the way we play. I expect better ball movement next year as a result of gaining his presence in the post, and I think he'll be a solid contributor on offense. He's never been a shooter, and that's OK. We don't need to have 5 three point threats on the floor to run a good offense. As long as he's a capable passer, we should be able to get plenty of open looks going inside-out. For that reason, I expect we might be talking as much about his assist numbers as his blocks, maybe more.

Height won't be an issue for us next year, so I don't think he'll be getting 30 minutes a game. Low 20s seems about right. And I would guess his stat line will be similar to what it was at Nebraska, not because he hasn't gotten better, but because it's just a different offense. We'll have a lot of capable scorers next year, and while I expect him to be one of them, I doubt he'll be one of our top scoring threats.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: Fred Garvin on March 22, 2018, 11:52:20 AM
Can he defend a pick-and-roll?
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 22, 2018, 11:56:14 AM
I hope his numbers are close to thst at the end. But wojo has a history of not playing transfers big minutes until he's forced to.

Ie Rowsey was essentially a role player until 3/4 of the way through junior year
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: LAMUfan on March 22, 2018, 11:58:29 AM
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on March 22, 2018, 11:46:48 AM
12 and 8 is what I was expecting. A true banger excited to see him next to Theo I think it'll be deadly down low

People also said that about Jamil wilson

People also said that about Wade
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on March 22, 2018, 12:00:13 PM
Quote from: #UnleashFroling on March 22, 2018, 11:56:14 AM
I hope his numbers are close to thst at the end. But wojo has a history of not playing transfers big minutes until he's forced to.

Ie Rowsey was essentially a role player until 3/4 of the way through junior year

To be fair, we were pretty deep in the backcourt with JJJ, Duane, Reinhardt, and Markus on that team.

I'm hoping he gets major minutes but I suppose it's not guaranteed. 
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: Floorslapper on March 22, 2018, 12:01:48 PM
Quote from: Henry the 6th Kings on March 22, 2018, 11:52:20 AM
Can he defend a pick-and-roll?

Let's hope it won't matter and Wojo follows the lead of his mentor, and goes EXCLUSIVELY zone next season and moving forward.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: Litehouse on March 22, 2018, 12:03:38 PM
My prediction would be 20 mpg, 9ppg and 7 rpg, and I'd be thrilled with that, along with some solid defense.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: MU82 on March 22, 2018, 12:06:51 PM
Quote from: Floorslapper on March 22, 2018, 12:01:48 PM
Let's hope it won't matter and Wojo follows the lead of his mentor, and goes EXCLUSIVELY zone next season and moving forward.

Well, it only took his mentor 42 and 3/4 seasons to go EXCLUSIVELY zone, so Wojo should have it in place for us by February 2057 or so.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: BM1090 on March 22, 2018, 12:15:10 PM
Quote from: Floorslapper on March 22, 2018, 12:01:48 PM
Let's hope it won't matter and Wojo follows the lead of his mentor, and goes EXCLUSIVELY zone next season and moving forward.

We'll finally have the length and quickness for the defense Wojo wants to run next year. We should start in man and give it a shot.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: cheese ball chaser on March 22, 2018, 12:16:56 PM
I'm holding out judgement until I see him in Big East play. Don't want to get my hopes up too much...
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 22, 2018, 12:23:30 PM
Quote from: Floorslapper on March 22, 2018, 11:46:06 AM
Some reports have said he's been the best player in practice this year.  Similar comments were made about Rowsey the year he sat out.  Obviously is being counted on to provide a big lift next year, and is a big reason for the optimism that many have regarding our team next year.

Have we ever had a redshirt that wasn't the best player in practice?
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: Pakuni on March 22, 2018, 12:23:46 PM
Quote from: #UnleashFroling on March 22, 2018, 11:56:14 AM
I hope his numbers are close to thst at the end. But wojo has a history of not playing transfers big minutes until he's forced to.

Ie Rowsey was essentially a role player until 3/4 of the way through junior year

Wojo transfers not named Rowsey:

Matt Carlino averaged 30.5 mpg his first 10 games at MU.
Luke Fischer averaged 27.4 mpg his first 10 games at MU.
Katin Reinhardt averaged 23.1 mpg his first 10 games at MU.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: MerrittsMustache on March 22, 2018, 12:25:38 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 22, 2018, 12:06:51 PM
Well, it only took his mentor 42 and 3/4 seasons to go EXCLUSIVELY zone, so Wojo should have it in place for us by February 2057 or so.

This made me chuckle. Well played, sir.


Quote from: #UnleashFroling on March 22, 2018, 11:56:14 AM
I hope his numbers are close to thst at the end. But wojo has a history of not playing transfers big minutes until he's forced to.

Ie Rowsey was essentially a role player until 3/4 of the way through junior year

It wasn't until 3/4 of the way through Rowsey's junior year that Wojo gave up on defense and decided that his team needed to outscore people in order to win. That's about when Haanif hit the pine and Rowsey's minutes increased.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: GGGG on March 22, 2018, 12:29:14 PM
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 22, 2018, 12:00:13 PM
To be fair, we were pretty deep in the backcourt with JJJ, Duane, Reinhardt, and Markus on that team.

I'm hoping he gets major minutes but I suppose it's not guaranteed. 


Not to mention Traci Carter, who got double digit minutes in six of the eight games he played that year.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: brewcity77 on March 22, 2018, 12:35:20 PM
I'm sure his first two months will be disappointing, like most transfers, and Scoop will write him off, then he'll become more productive as the season goes on, but some Scoopers won't forget that marginal start until 2019-20.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 22, 2018, 12:35:54 PM
Hope ta get more outta 'im than Fro. Don't wanna wait 5 years ta judge, hey?
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on March 22, 2018, 12:43:20 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 22, 2018, 12:23:30 PM
Have we ever had a redshirt that wasn't the best player in practice?

Kinsella?
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 22, 2018, 12:51:50 PM
Morrow is an interesting player. He actually isn't great offensively or defensively. What he is, is elite at rebounding. I would expect a 10/9 type line for next season. If he spent the year off working on the other parts of his game, he could be really special. I have heard only good things about him.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 22, 2018, 12:59:42 PM
Well our last undersized 4 that came out of Simeon didn't exactly light the world on fire. But with that being said, Morrow doesn't have the injury issues that Teve did. Still hopeful, just happy Joey is an option going forward as well.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: skianth16 on March 22, 2018, 01:48:56 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 22, 2018, 12:35:20 PM
I'm sure his first two months will be disappointing, like most transfers, and Scoop will write him off, then he'll become more productive as the season goes on, but some Scoopers won't forget that marginal start until 2019-20.

He has a 2 year track record from a real conference to go off of. I don't think he's going to be as big a mystery to us as some other guys have been. Sure, there are differences between Nebraska and MU, but knowing that he was a good player at a power 6 school makes me a lot more confident that we'll know what we're getting than we did with recent transfers.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: Goose on March 22, 2018, 02:07:51 PM
He very possibly is going to be the guy that tilts the needle, good or bad, next season. If there is real improvement next year, I think Morrow will be a big part of it.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: GoldenDieners32 on March 22, 2018, 02:24:06 PM
Morrow + Theo gonna be scarrrrrry
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 22, 2018, 02:31:10 PM
Morrow's sophomore season was better than any big we had this year. (I'm not counting Sam as a big.)

Morrow's sophomore numbers would have been first on the team in rebounding rate on offense, defense, and overall.  He would have been 2nd in block rate and his D rating of 102.9 was much better than Cain's team leading 108.7.

So Morrow projects as our best rebounder and possibly our best defender. We don't need Ed to be a huge scorer. 9-11 ppg would be fine, 7-8 rpg, and solid defense.

Ed could play anywhere from 24 to 32 mpg.  The question is how much small ball Wojo decides to play.  Ed paired with two of Sam, Joey, and Jamal would make for some interesting frontline combinations.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: SaveOD238 on March 22, 2018, 02:35:51 PM
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on March 22, 2018, 11:46:48 AM
People also said that about Jamil wilson

Who went on to play in the NBA.  Sure Wilson disappointed us, but it certainly wasn't because he wasn't talented enough.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on March 22, 2018, 02:40:42 PM
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on March 22, 2018, 02:31:10 PM
Morrow's sophomore season was better than any big we had this year. (I'm not counting Sam as a big.)

Morrow's sophomore numbers would have been first on the team in rebounding rate on offense, defense, and overall.  He would have been 2nd in block rate and his D rating of 102.9 was much better than Cain's team leading 108.7.

So Morrow projects as our best rebounder and possibly our best defender. We don't need Ed to be a huge scorer. 9-11 ppg would be fine, 7-8 rpg, and solid defense.

Ed could play anywhere from 24 to 32 mpg.  The question is how much small ball Wojo decides to play.  Ed paired with two of Sam, Joey, and Jamal would make for some interesting frontline combinations.

Why not all three? Dare to dream!
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 22, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on March 22, 2018, 02:40:42 PM
Why not all three? Dare to dream!

You know, if Markus can develop his PG skills and Cain can develop some guard skills, that is an intriguing lineup.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: MU82 on March 22, 2018, 02:51:02 PM
Quote from: skianth16 on March 22, 2018, 01:48:56 PM
He has a 2 year track record from a real conference to go off of. I don't think he's going to be as big a mystery to us as some other guys have been. Sure, there are differences between Nebraska and MU, but knowing that he was a good player at a power 6 school makes me a lot more confident that we'll know what we're getting than we did with recent transfers.

It wasn't about Lockett and Katin being "big mysteries." It was about out-sized expectations and results.

With Lockett, people thought he actually was a scorer and they got down on him quickly when he couldn't shoot. It wasn't until after he established himself as a great team player and above-average defender that Scoopers bought in.

Katin was obviously pressing early and he shot so poorly at the start that it was hard to appreciate his grit, leadership and ballhandling. He finally had a good shooting game against F%cky and peeps started to get off his back and realize what he brought. Him volunteering to come off the bench took away a lot of pressure - a very smart move by Wojo and him.

Like most fans, Scoopers tend to want results 5 minutes ago. Not a very patient lot.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: Loose Cannon on March 22, 2018, 03:27:06 PM
Quote from: cheese ball chaser on March 22, 2018, 12:16:56 PM
I'm holding out judgement until I see him in Big East play. Don't want to get my hopes up too much...

Amen, I'm Cautious, but optimistic as I trust in Wojo's  evaluation of talent.  Plus he came out of Simeon HS.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: skianth16 on March 22, 2018, 03:28:40 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 22, 2018, 02:51:02 PM
It wasn't about Lockett and Katin being "big mysteries." It was about out-sized expectations and results.

I was thinking more along the lines of Rowsey, Froling, Carlino, and Jake when talking about not being sure what to expect. Guys coming from smaller programs or having smaller roles before coming to MU. In those cases, it was hard to know what to expect.

For the guys coming from more established backgrounds, I think it's fair to say both were a bit disappointing. Lockett was worse at MU than ASU by pretty much every measurable statistic. He wasn't a bad addition, but he didn't produce at MU the way he did at ASU. And Katin didn't take as big a step back as Lockett, but the fact that he didn't improve as a senior was probably disappointing to some. Although anyone who saw his first few seasons and expected a big leap probably just had the wrong expectations.

With Morrow, hopefully people just want to see him doing what he did at Nebraska, not too much more, not too much less. If we get the same player he was 2 years ago, I think most fans will really like him and be happy with his output.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: GGGG on March 22, 2018, 03:36:04 PM
Quote from: skianth16 on March 22, 2018, 03:28:40 PM
I was thinking more along the lines of Rowsey, Froling, Carlino, and Jake when talking about not being sure what to expect. Guys coming from smaller programs or having smaller roles before coming to MU. In those cases, it was hard to know what to expect.

For the guys coming from more established backgrounds, I think it's fair to say both were a bit disappointing. Lockett was worse at MU than ASU by pretty much every measurable statistic. He wasn't a bad addition, but he didn't produce at MU the way he did at ASU. And Katin didn't take as big a step back as Lockett, but the fact that he didn't improve as a senior was probably disappointing to some. Although anyone who saw his first few seasons and expected a big leap probably just had the wrong expectations.

With Morrow, hopefully people just want to see him doing what he did at Nebraska, not too much more, not too much less. If we get the same player he was 2 years ago, I think most fans will really like him and be happy with his output.


Lockett wasn't disappointing whatsoever.  He had more talent around him in a tougher conference so his minutes and usage went down.  And while he offensively didn't match what he did at ASU, he was great defensively.

Really any player that is stepping up in competition isn't going to match the number they did at lower levels.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: brewcity77 on March 22, 2018, 03:59:48 PM
Quote from: skianth16 on March 22, 2018, 01:48:56 PM
He has a 2 year track record from a real conference to go off of. I don't think he's going to be as big a mystery to us as some other guys have been. Sure, there are differences between Nebraska and MU, but knowing that he was a good player at a power 6 school makes me a lot more confident that we'll know what we're getting than we did with recent transfers.

It's just a Scoop thing. Lockett and Carlino were written off by mid November. Rowsey looked like a bust because he scored 7 combined points in 5 of his first 6 games (and a bizarre 20 in the other). Jamil, Reinhardt, just about every transfer looks lost early. Luke Fischer was really about the only exception. He didn't get blasted here until later in his career when we were no longer running a zone that masked his defensive deficiencies.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: skianth16 on March 22, 2018, 04:01:10 PM
Quote from: #bansultan on March 22, 2018, 03:36:04 PM

Lockett wasn't disappointing whatsoever.  He had more talent around him in a tougher conference so his minutes and usage went down.  And while he offensively didn't match what he did at ASU, he was great defensively.

Really any player that is stepping up in competition isn't going to match the number they did at lower levels.

Moving from the Pac-12 to the Big East isn't a huge change. The Big East is better and has tougher competition, but it's not that big of a leap. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on Lockett's time at MU.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 22, 2018, 04:04:44 PM
Quote from: skianth16 on March 22, 2018, 04:01:10 PM
Moving from the Pac-12 to the Big East isn't a huge change. The Big East is better and has tougher competition, but it's not that big of a leap. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on Lockett's time at MU.

The pac 12 is the weakest power conference and isn't physical at all. The old big east was the deepest power conference and extremely physical.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: MU82 on March 22, 2018, 04:06:37 PM
Quote from: skianth16 on March 22, 2018, 03:28:40 PM
Lockett was worse at MU than ASU by pretty much every measurable statistic.

Katin didn't take as big a step back as Lockett, but the fact that he didn't improve as a senior was probably disappointing to some.

Lockett showed why stats sometimes lie (or at least don't matter much). The second half of that season, he was an extremely valuable part of an Elite Eight team.

Once he settled in and stopped putting so much pressure on himself, Katin was very valuable. Not only did he make some huge plays - including the winner against Nova - but he had an attitude that told opponents not to eff with us. And his presence on the court made it almost impossible to press us. I was thrilled with what we got out of Katin.

Lockett, I admit I got a little impatient watching him. But the experience taught me a valuable lesson, and I'm much more willing to give players time now.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: GGGG on March 22, 2018, 04:21:06 PM
Quote from: skianth16 on March 22, 2018, 04:01:10 PM
Moving from the Pac-12 to the Big East isn't a huge change. The Big East is better and has tougher competition, but it's not that big of a leap. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on Lockett's time at MU.


You complain a lot.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: skianth16 on March 22, 2018, 04:40:51 PM
Quote from: #bansultan on March 22, 2018, 04:21:06 PM

You complain a lot.

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Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 22, 2018, 05:26:26 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 22, 2018, 12:23:30 PM
Have we ever had a redshirt that wasn't the best player in practice?

Joey, Otule. ;)
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: Newsdreams on March 23, 2018, 10:37:25 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 22, 2018, 02:51:02 PM
It wasn't about Lockett and Katin being "big mysteries." It was about out-sized expectations and results.

With Lockett, people thought he actually was a scorer and they got down on him quickly when he couldn't shoot. It wasn't until after he established himself as a great team player and above-average defender that Scoopers bought in.

Katin was obviously pressing early and he shot so poorly at the start that it was hard to appreciate his grit, leadership and ballhandling. He finally had a good shooting game against F%cky and peeps started to get off his back and realize what he brought. Him volunteering to come off the bench took away a lot of pressure - a very smart move by Wojo and him.

Like most fans, Scoopers tend to want results 5 minutes ago. Not a very patient lot.
Katin was playing with an ankle injury, once he sat 2/3 games he got his 3 pt shooting back.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: tower912 on March 24, 2018, 08:45:45 AM
Marquette needs Morrow to be the type of player he was at Nebraska, just two years older.  A physical forward who rebounds well, scores around the basket, and defends.  If his shot has improved, so much the better.  He was a 9-7 player as a sophomore at Nebraska.  One more basket and one more rebound is 11-8.   Think most would happily accept that.   
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 24, 2018, 09:16:33 AM
Morrow was also playing hurt as a sophomore
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: nyg on March 24, 2018, 09:25:33 AM
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/evans-seven-programs-that-could-follow-in-shoes-of-sweet-16-teams

Heck, article has MU maybe going to Sweet 16 next year and didn't even mention Morrow's name.  I think he will be fantastic to MU's hope next year.  No more getting pushed around beneath the rim and have the hands to actually grab rebounds.  Can't wait. 
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: Jay Bee on March 24, 2018, 09:34:31 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 24, 2018, 09:16:33 AM
Morrow was also playing hurt as a sophomore

It's a very good point... and he was hurt as a frosh. After returning from injury as a Soph, his numbers were rough. Ugly. Except for... the rebounding. That didn't go away.

For me, I expect: Rebounding, Physicality, altered/blocked shots. Similar to Theo.

I hope for: Reduced turnover rate (say, 16%), solid 2FG% (56%+ -- would love higher)..

Not sure: Where he'll land in terms of %Shots.. 14% as a frosh.. 21% as a sophomore. 21% would seem about right with this roster.. but hey.. if we can deliver to him inside in the flow of the offense and he sports something closer to 23 to 24%, cool. I worry about him taking long 2's and 3's.. we'll see.

Hasn't shown much for passing... would also like for him to show off an ability to dish to spot up shooters... think it would be good for him and for the team.

Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 24, 2018, 09:53:19 AM
Quote from: nyg on March 24, 2018, 09:25:33 AM
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/evans-seven-programs-that-could-follow-in-shoes-of-sweet-16-teams

Heck, article has MU maybe going to Sweet 16 next year and didn't even mention Morrow's name.  I think he will be fantastic to MU's hope next year.  No more getting pushed around beneath the rim and have the hands to actually grab rebounds.  Can't wait.

But he also mentions Froling  :o
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: MuMark on March 24, 2018, 09:22:26 PM
Quote from: #bansultan on March 22, 2018, 03:36:04 PM

Lockett wasn't disappointing whatsoever.  He had more talent around him in a tougher conference so his minutes and usage went down.  And while he offensively didn't match what he did at ASU, he was great defensively.

Really any player that is stepping up in competition isn't going to match the number they did at lower levels.

You mean other then Rowsey..... . 8-)
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: MuMark on March 24, 2018, 09:28:20 PM
Quote from: nyg on March 24, 2018, 09:25:33 AM
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/evans-seven-programs-that-could-follow-in-shoes-of-sweet-16-teams

Heck, article has MU maybe going to Sweet 16 next year and didn't even mention Morrow's name.  I think he will be fantastic to MU's hope next year.  No more getting pushed around beneath the rim and have the hands to actually grab rebounds.  Can't wait.

No mention of the Badgers.......how is that possible...... ;D
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: Otule's Glass Eye on March 24, 2018, 09:35:25 PM
I don't care about his scoring as much as his rebounding and defensive abilities as that is 2 things that this year's team sorely lacked, so what he brings on that end is a huge plus while we have other great scoring options in addition to whatever post offense he brings.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: ATWizJr on March 24, 2018, 10:37:18 PM
Quote from: GoldenEagles32 on March 22, 2018, 02:24:06 PM
Morrow + Theo gonna be scarrrrrry
we gonna be scared or our opponent?
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: bilsu on March 25, 2018, 12:27:20 AM
Nebraska last year was 12-19 with Morrow.
This year they were 22-11 without him.
Every season is different, but you can certainly argue Nebraska did not miss him.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: muguru on March 25, 2018, 02:22:29 AM
Quote from: bilsu on March 25, 2018, 12:27:20 AM
Nebraska last year was 12-19 with Morrow.
This year they were 22-11 without him.
Every season is different, but you can certainly argue Nebraska did not miss him.

Only because Nebraska brought in 3 transfers that were the heart of their team..and the only reason their record was as good as it was. They dont bring them in they would have greatly missed Morrow.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: bilsu on March 25, 2018, 01:48:41 PM
Quote from: skianth16 on March 22, 2018, 11:47:38 AM
Gaining Ed and losing Rowsey will have a huge, huge impact on the way we play. I expect better ball movement next year as a result of gaining his presence in the post, and I think he'll be a solid contributor on offense. He's never been a shooter, and that's OK. We don't need to have 5 three point threats on the floor to run a good offense. As long as he's a capable passer, we should be able to get plenty of open looks going inside-out. For that reason, I expect we might be talking as much about his assist numbers as his blocks, maybe more.

Height won't be an issue for us next year, so I don't think he'll be getting 30 minutes a game. Low 20s seems about right. And I would guess his stat line will be similar to what it was at Nebraska, not because he hasn't gotten better, but because it's just a different offense. We'll have a lot of capable scorers next year, and while I expect him to be one of them, I doubt he'll be one of our top scoring threats.
Ball movement stops as soon as the ball gets in Howard's hands.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: bilsu on March 25, 2018, 01:55:23 PM
Quote from: muguru on March 25, 2018, 02:22:29 AM
Only because Nebraska brought in 3 transfers that were the heart of their team..and the only reason their record was as good as it was. They dont bring them in they would have greatly missed Morrow.
Maybe Morrow transferred because he was not going to start. Do we know why he transferred?
I actually think Morrow will be our best frontline player. He is strong and may be the best leaper on the team. However, I also thought Froling would be a difference maker. That gives me pause about how high my expectations are for Morrow.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: GGGG on March 25, 2018, 01:59:45 PM
Quote from: bilsu on March 25, 2018, 01:48:41 PM
Ball movement stops as soon as the ball gets in Howard's hands.

Not really.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: tower912 on March 25, 2018, 02:02:59 PM
I see Paschall without the 3 pt range.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: NickelDimer on March 25, 2018, 02:07:13 PM
Quote from: tower912 on March 25, 2018, 02:02:59 PM
I see Paschall without the 3 pt range.
Sign me up for that
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 25, 2018, 02:55:34 PM
Quote from: bilsu on March 25, 2018, 01:55:23 PM
Maybe Morrow transferred because he was not going to start. Do we know why he transferred?
I actually think Morrow will be our best frontline player. He is strong and may be the best leaper on the team. However, I also thought Froling would be a difference maker. That gives me pause about how high my expectations are for Morrow.

The difference is that Froling had 10 games of experience while Morrow has 54. Morrow is more proven due to the bigger sample size.

I'm hoping for a better scoring Marcus Jackson (minus the dribbling skills).
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: Pakuni on March 25, 2018, 03:24:42 PM
Take it for what it's worth, but I work with a Nebraska alum/fan who says Marquette fans are going to love Morrow and he believes they'd have been a tourney lock this year had he stayed.
I didn't ask specifically, but nothing he said indicated that Morrow left Nebraska over a lack of playing time.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: wadesworld on March 25, 2018, 03:27:51 PM
Yeah. The kid is a high major player no question about it. Never bought it with Harry. But Ed has done it at the high major level and will be a huge piece of the puzzle the next 2 years.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: ATWizJr on March 25, 2018, 04:33:37 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 25, 2018, 03:24:42 PM
Take it for what it's worth, but I work with a Nebraska alum/fan who says Marquette fans are going to love Morrow and he believes they'd have been a tourney lock this year had he stayed.
I didn't ask specifically, but nothing he said indicated that Morrow left Nebraska over a lack of playing time.
. How many times have we been told that the new incomer was gonna be our future salvation.  Like Froling this season for example?  Meh. I'll wait to be shown.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: NickelDimer on March 25, 2018, 04:44:39 PM
Quote from: ATWizJr on March 25, 2018, 04:33:37 PM
. How many times have we been told that the new incomer was gonna be our future salvation.  Like Froling this season for example?  Meh. I'll wait to be shown.
Very poor comp
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: LAZER on March 25, 2018, 04:48:44 PM
Quote from: ATWizJr on March 25, 2018, 04:33:37 PM
. How many times have we been told that the new incomer was gonna be our future salvation.  Like Froling this season for example?  Meh. I'll wait to be shown.
Future salvation? I think most fans are just reasonably optimistic he'll fill a hole MU has had for the last few seasons.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: Pakuni on March 25, 2018, 04:49:21 PM
Quote from: ATWizJr on March 25, 2018, 04:33:37 PM
. How many times have we been told that the new incomer was gonna be our future salvation.  Like Froling this season for example?  Meh. I'll wait to be shown.

Hmmm .... I never remember any new incomer being described as the "future salvation," especially Harry.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: SaveOD238 on March 25, 2018, 05:36:58 PM
Quote from: bilsu on March 25, 2018, 01:48:41 PM
Ball movement stops as soon as the ball gets in Howard's hands.

It's a limited sample in a glorified scrimmage, I know, but at Madness Howard was sending lobs to Morrow on every other possession.  I can't remember the last time we had a lob-city type of offense, but Madness left me very excited for what Morrow can do next year.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: forgetful on March 25, 2018, 06:05:17 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 25, 2018, 04:49:21 PM
Hmmm .... I never remember any new incomer being described as the "future salvation," especially Harry.

I remember the most optimistic essentially hoping Froling could do for us, what Morrow did his last year at Nebraska. 

Most others, including me, said even those goals were not particularly realistic. 
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: Herman Cain on March 26, 2018, 12:01:17 AM
Morrow has proven he can play at a competitive level in the Big Ten. He has been able to take a year off to work out, develop his skills and build chemistry with his teammates, so at a minimum he should be at the level he was at before he transferred, if not better. It is up to the coaches to figure out how to get the most production out of his ability.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: auburnmarquette on March 26, 2018, 01:08:21 AM
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on March 22, 2018, 11:39:48 AM
I'm excited to see a post player that can catch a pass in the lane and finish.

Thank you! I really don't like to criticize players, but if Matt could get the old raiders stickem or something - it's so discouraging whenever our big three dump a pass to him after drawing defenders and it ricochets out of bounds.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on March 26, 2018, 02:17:38 AM
Quote from: auburnmarquette on March 26, 2018, 01:08:21 AM
Thank you! I really don't like to criticize players, but if Matt could get the old raiders stickem or something - it's so discouraging whenever our big three dump a pass to him after drawing defenders and it ricochets out of bounds.

Could Wojo hire former Bears QB Vince Evans to rocket-fire passes from close range to a hoop-cutting Matt all summer?
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: Newsdreams on March 26, 2018, 01:28:31 PM
Quote from: bilsu on March 25, 2018, 01:55:23 PM
Maybe Morrow transferred because he was not going to start. Do we know why he transferred?
I actually think Morrow will be our best frontline player. He is strong and may be the best leaper on the team. However, I also thought Froling would be a difference maker. That gives me pause about how high my expectations are for Morrow.
Per original transfer interview, because they wanted him to mainly play the 5 and he wants to play more at the 4
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 26, 2018, 01:44:00 PM
Ed Morrow is really good guys.
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: KampusFoods on March 26, 2018, 01:51:51 PM
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 26, 2018, 01:44:00 PM
Ed Morrow is really good guys.

You been going to practice?
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 26, 2018, 01:54:58 PM
Quote from: KampusFoods on March 26, 2018, 01:51:51 PM
You been going to practice?

No, but I watch a lot of basketball and have seen him play a lot.  He is really good and pretty much exactly what this team has been missing for the last half decade.  A vicious rebounder and who is fearless in the paint on both offense and defense.  The perfect traditional 4.   
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: MuMark on March 26, 2018, 03:41:25 PM
Quote from: bilsu on March 25, 2018, 12:27:20 AM
Nebraska last year was 12-19 with Morrow.
This year they were 22-11 without him.
Every season is different, but you can certainly argue Nebraska did not miss him.

Yeah.....no

https://hailvarsity.com/s/931/run-it-back-life-without-ed-morrow-jr

And from his transfer article in the Omaha paper

"Nebraska started Big Ten play 3-0 with Morrow at full speed and starting. Over the next eight games, which Morrow played hobbled or sat out, NU went 1-7. Miles said he knew Morrow was frustrated by his injury."
Title: Re: Ed Morrow
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 26, 2018, 04:09:03 PM
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 26, 2018, 01:54:58 PM
No, but I watch a lot of basketball and have seen him play a lot.  He is really good and pretty much exactly what this team has been missing for the last half decade.  A vicious rebounder and who is fearless in the paint on both offense and defense. The perfect traditional 4.

Might want to get your eyes checked eh?
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