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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: StillAWarrior on March 19, 2018, 03:29:16 PM

Title: Name Stays; Mascot Goes
Post by: StillAWarrior on March 19, 2018, 03:29:16 PM
What a concept (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/red-alert-politics/abandoning-tradition-college-of-the-holy-cross-crusades-against-the-crusader-knight), Holy Cross.


Now all you kids, get the hell off my lawn.


P.S.  For the record, the name "Crusaders" is light years more offensive than "Warriors."  I'm honestly a little surprised that they didn't change the name, too.
Title: Re: Name Stays; Mascot Goes
Post by: Benny B on March 19, 2018, 04:13:56 PM
P.S.  For the record, the name "Crusaders" is light years more offensive than "Warriors."  I'm honestly a little surprised that they didn't change the name, too.

I don't know.... these days I get the distinct impression that it's way worse to mock indigenous peoples than it is to murder them.

What is surprising is that Holy Cross doesn't seem to be taking a payout from any Islamic casino owners to make this happen.  Suckers.
Title: Re: Name Stays; Mascot Goes
Post by: Litehouse on March 19, 2018, 05:10:43 PM
This just seems backwards.  The Crusader name is what they seem to imply is offensive, not the mascot, but yet they keep the name and drop the mascot.
Title: Re: Name Stays; Mascot Goes
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 19, 2018, 11:47:17 PM
This just seems backwards.  The Crusader name is what they seem to imply is offensive, not the mascot, but yet they keep the name and drop the mascot.

Agreed. Unless maybe they think muslims are offended by really big Uggs.
Title: Re: Name Stays; Mascot Goes
Post by: GB Warrior on March 20, 2018, 06:19:27 AM
Meanwhile we still have FSU and the tomahawk chop
Title: Re: Name Stays; Mascot Goes
Post by: JWags85 on March 20, 2018, 09:47:18 AM
Meanwhile we still have FSU and the tomahawk chop

Florida, much less the panhandle, isn’t exactly a hotbed of cultural sensitivity
Title: Re: Name Stays; Mascot Goes
Post by: Eldon on March 20, 2018, 09:49:53 AM
Meanwhile we still have FSU and the tomahawk chop

I believe that FSU has the blessing of the Seminole tribe (as does Utah with the Ute tribe).
Title: Re: Name Stays; Mascot Goes
Post by: Anti-Dentite on March 20, 2018, 10:01:50 AM
I believe that FSU has the blessing of the Seminole tribe (as does Utah with the Ute tribe).
This is true, the Seminole Nation in both Florida and Oklahoma support the use by FSU but I get the tomahawk chop reference.
Title: Re: Name Stays; Mascot Goes
Post by: Coleman on March 20, 2018, 10:49:29 AM
I don't know.... these days I get the distinct impression that it's way worse to mock indigenous peoples than it is to murder them.

What is surprising is that Holy Cross doesn't seem to be taking a payout from any Islamic casino owners to make this happen.  Suckers.

lol
Title: Re: Name Stays; Mascot Goes
Post by: MUBurrow on March 20, 2018, 06:47:23 PM
I believe that FSU has the blessing of the Seminole tribe (as does Utah with the Ute tribe).

I know Utah broadcasts at least one message from a leader of the Ute tribe on the jumbotron at every game.
Title: Re: Name Stays; Mascot Goes
Post by: rocket surgeon on March 20, 2018, 07:49:15 PM
I believe that FSU has the blessing of the Seminole tribe (as does Utah with the Ute tribe).

i think it's more along the lines of ble$$ing eyn'a?

  waiting to see if my kid's high school feels the same kind of love-catholic memorial CRUSADERS.  if they even think about following suit, i will guarantee you that it will $ting

btw-found this definition as well-

   "a person who campaigns vigorously for political, social, or religious change; a campaigner"

GO CAMPAIGNERS!!
Title: Re: Name Stays; Mascot Goes
Post by: GB Warrior on March 20, 2018, 08:50:42 PM
I believe that FSU has the blessing of the Seminole tribe (as does Utah with the Ute tribe).

Good to know. I know that I cringe when I make it to 1-2 Braves games a year while in ATL for work. I always equated the two, but that's a marked difference
Title: Re: Name Stays; Mascot Goes
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 20, 2018, 10:37:17 PM
I believe that FSU has the blessing of the Seminole tribe (as does Utah with the Ute tribe).

IIRC, FSU only has the blessing of like 3/12 tribes.
Title: Re: Name Stays; Mascot Goes
Post by: Babybluejeans on March 21, 2018, 11:37:26 AM
I'd be fine if Marquette kept the Golden Eagles name and got rid of the Chicken.
Title: Re: Name Stays; Mascot Goes
Post by: Warrior Code on March 21, 2018, 12:41:01 PM
I'd be fine if Marquette kept the Golden Eagles name and got rid of the Chicken.

Same here. Or at least gave it a redesign. Never been a fan of the current eagle logo. I'd also like to see us update the MU logo, at least removing the yellow "shadows." I think it would be a cleaner, more classic look.
Title: Re: Name Stays; Mascot Goes
Post by: rocket surgeon on March 21, 2018, 06:33:37 PM
I'd be fine if Marquette kept the Golden Eagles name and got rid of the Chicken.

i think you're going to be about 1/2 fine then, eyn'as?
Title: Re: Name Stays; Mascot Goes
Post by: dgies9156 on March 21, 2018, 07:16:44 PM
I'd be fine if Marquette kept the Golden Eagles name and got rid of the Chicken.

You mean the Furry Bird.

There's very few feathers on that bird. If we're eagle, make him/her wear feathers! All feathers!
Title: Re: Name Stays; Mascot Goes
Post by: jesmu84 on March 22, 2018, 09:14:33 AM
I believe that FSU has the blessing of the Seminole tribe (as does Utah with the Ute tribe).

So did North Dakota from the Sioux. But we know how that ended up.

Once again, NCAA demonstrates that they have no problem imposing their will on the lower tiered schools while letting the big boys do whatever they want.
Title: Re: Name Stays; Mascot Goes
Post by: Eldon on March 22, 2018, 09:25:18 AM
So did North Dakota from the Sioux. But we know how that ended up.

Once again, NCAA demonstrates that they have no problem imposing their will on the lower tiered schools while letting the big boys do whatever they want.

That's not true.

The NCAA allowed some schools to keep such nicknames provided they received tribal support. But in the University of North Dakota's case, the Spirit Lake Sioux tribe endorsed using the nickname and logo, but The Standing Rock Sioux's tribal council didn't.

http://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8429126/ncaa-allows-most-north-dakota-sioux-logos-stay