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Title: Markus Howard easily most points by 19th birthday?
Post by: auburnmarquette on March 03, 2018, 07:09:13 PM
In my research so far, here are the most points by a college player by his 19th birthday

1. Markus Howard 3-3-2018 - 1,016 points for Marquette

2. Kevin Durant 11-29-2007 - 903 for Texas

3. Tim Duncan 4-25-95 - 860 points for wake forest ( added after initial)

4. Wayman Tisdale 6-9-1983 - 810 for Oklahoma

5. Carmelo Anthony 5-29-2003 - 778 for Syracuse

6. Steph Curry 3-14-2007 - 700 for Davidson (day after his birthday added 30 in loss to Maryland to end freshman season)

7. Marvin Bagley III 3-14-2018 - 539 point for Duke and several games left before birthday

8. Anthony Davis 3-11-2012 - 485 for Kentucky

9. Miles Bridges 3-21-2017 - 473 for Michigan State

10. Michael Beasley 1-9-2008 - 360 for k-state (missing a couple of box scores right around his birthday so could be a few off)

Many great freshman had ZERO when they were 19 before starting their freshman season, including top two this year (Trae Young and Deandre Ayton), Purdue's Glenn Robinson, and LSUs Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf (previously Chris Jackson).


If anyone can find others or figure out a methodology that would be great but there's the start.



Title: Re: Markus Howard easily most points by 19th birthday?
Post by: oldwarrior81 on March 03, 2018, 07:17:12 PM
don't forget Tim Duncan.
He had two full years in before he turned 19.

He put up some nice numbers although he wasn't the scorer Markus is.
first two years:  64 games/starts, 860 points,  718 rebounds,  259 blocks
Title: Re: Markus Howard easily most points by 19th birthday?
Post by: auburnmarquette on March 03, 2018, 07:34:19 PM
Thank you! Started with best freshman seasons and birthdays, so that's a great addition and I will look for more.

Actually lived in Charlottesville at the time and watched Duncan at UVa.
Title: Re: Markus Howard easily most points by 19th birthday?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 03, 2018, 07:46:58 PM
Honestly, I would guess that it would be some random low major player
Title: Re: Markus Howard easily most points by 19th birthday?
Post by: jsglow on March 03, 2018, 07:50:56 PM
Keep working this auburn.  I will get the info to Broeker.
Title: Re: Markus Howard easily most points by 19th birthday?
Post by: auburnmarquette on March 03, 2018, 08:10:24 PM
Quote from: oldwarrior81 on March 03, 2018, 07:17:12 PM
don't forget Tim Duncan.
He had two full years in before he turned 19.

He put up some nice numbers although he wasn't the scorer Markus is.
first two years:  64 games/starts, 860 points,  718 rebounds,  259 blocks

I added him in at no. 3 as of his April 25, 1995 19th birthday.
Title: Re: Markus Howard easily most points by 19th birthday?
Post by: brewcity77 on March 03, 2018, 08:30:23 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 03, 2018, 07:46:58 PM
Honestly, I would guess that it would be some random low major player

Could be, but reclassifying and starting as young as Howard did with as prodigious a scoring record is pretty rare at any level.
Title: Re: Markus Howard easily most points by 19th birthday?
Post by: tower912 on March 03, 2018, 08:47:50 PM
Stay off scoop, Alan.  Priorities.
Title: Re: Markus Howard easily most points by 19th birthday?
Post by: auburnmarquette on March 03, 2018, 09:59:13 PM
added a few updates, but many freshman have ZERO at 19 years old, and only 5 players in Sports Reference ever scored 1000 in a season:

1. Markus Howard 3-3-2018 - 1,016 points for Marquette

2. Kevin Durant 11-29-2007 - 903 for Texas

3. Tim Duncan 4-25-95 - 860 points for wake forest ( added after initial)

4. Wayman Tisdale 6-9-1983 - 810 for Oklahoma

5. Carmelo Anthony 5-29-2003 - 778 for Syracuse

6. Steph Curry 3-14-2007 - 700 for Davidson (day after his birthday added 30 in loss to Maryland to end freshman season)

7. Marvin Bagley III 3-14-2018 - 539 point for Duke and several games left before birthday

8. Anthony Davis 3-11-2012 - 485 for Kentucky

9. Miles Bridges 3-21-2017 - 473 for Michigan State

10. Michael Beasley 1-9-2008 - 360 for k-state (missing a couple of box scores right around his birthday so could be a few off)
Title: Re: Markus Howard easily most points by 19th birthday?
Post by: brewcity77 on March 03, 2018, 10:17:32 PM
Quote from: tower912 on March 03, 2018, 08:47:50 PM
Stay off scoop, Alan.  Priorities.

We're in total holding pattern. The doctor is inducing, but there's really nothing going on until morning (other than sleeping on a crappy couch). Just reading Scoop and a baby book.
Title: Re: Markus Howard easily most points by 19th birthday?
Post by: MU82 on March 03, 2018, 11:34:50 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 03, 2018, 10:17:32 PM
Just reading Scoop and a baby book.

Spoiler Alert: The quiet old lady whispering hush did it!
Title: Re: Markus Howard easily most points by 19th birthday?
Post by: jsglow on March 03, 2018, 11:43:00 PM
We can't take it Brew. Half of Scoop is staying up all night waiting!  ;D
Title: can MERGE with Cracked Sidewalks Markus Howard easily most pts by 19th birthday?
Post by: auburnmarquette on March 04, 2018, 12:00:36 AM
http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2018/03/howards-1016-by-19th-birthday-tops.html

just posted an expanded version of top 25 greats by 19th birthday, so feel free to combine these two once it hits.
Title: Re: Markus Howard easily most points by 19th birthday?
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 04, 2018, 07:40:05 AM
This would take a monster year, but could he have a shot at GT's 3 year mark. 
Title: Re: Markus Howard easily most points by 19th birthday?
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 04, 2018, 07:56:13 AM
Tell 'em ta double down on da ptocin. If da gyno has a golf tee time soon, dey probaly dunn dat bye now, hey?
Title: Re: Markus Howard easily most points by 19th birthday?
Post by: oldwarrior81 on March 04, 2018, 02:14:15 PM
I ran across a few more with nice freshmen years:
J.J. Redick   6/24/2002     495
Pervis Ellison  4/3/1986    510
Reggie Lewis  11/21/1984    571

Then I looked at Shaquille O'Neal.
Born 3/6/1972
Similar to Markus, he had his 19th birthday near the end of his sophomore season.

O'Neal scored 445 points as a freshman.  Just a bit ahead of Markus' 410.
Shaq put up 774 as a sophomore which put him at 1219 at the end of his second season.

LSU only played two games after 3/6/1991.  A NCAA game on 3/14 where Shaq scored 27
And a Conf Tourney game against Auburn on 3/8/1991.  Auburn won 92-77.  I believe Shaq, may have sat out this game with a leg injury.

Unofficially, that puts Shaq around 1192 by his 19th birthday. 

Title: Re: Markus Howard easily most points by 19th birthday?
Post by: oldwarrior81 on March 04, 2018, 02:21:08 PM
Also found Shaq's high school team photo.

https://i.imgur.com/3D1Z158.jpg

Their weren't any names attached, so I'm not positive which one he was.
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