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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: MU82 on February 28, 2018, 12:28:02 PM

Title: Sam's 3-point shot-making (there ... that's better!)
Post by: MU82 on February 28, 2018, 12:28:02 PM
Our guy is now at .521 from downtown. He trails Connor Burchfield of William & Mary by 0.1%.

It would be cool to have the NCAA leader in that stat for 2 straight years. Come on, Sam!
Title: Re: Sam's shooting
Post by: tower912 on February 28, 2018, 12:30:10 PM
I saw the title and almost reflexively said 'Thoughts and prayers.'

Sam is shooting well. 
Title: Re: Sam's shooting
Post by: Herman Cain on February 28, 2018, 12:35:58 PM
Quote from: MU82 on February 28, 2018, 12:28:02 PM
Our guy is now at .521 from downtown. He trails Connor Burchfield of William & Mary by 0.1%.

It would be cool to have the NCAA leader in that stat for 2 straight years. Come on, Sam!
Can you change the title to Sams 3 Point Shooting. You are scaring the children with that title.
Title: Re: Sam's shooting
Post by: StillWarriors on February 28, 2018, 12:39:10 PM
Quote from: MU82 on February 28, 2018, 12:28:02 PM

It would be cool to have the NCAA leader in that stat for 2 straight years. Come on, Sam!

Especially because it would be with two players.....and both are only sophomores. Pretty remarkable.
Title: Re: Sam's shooting
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on February 28, 2018, 12:44:51 PM
Quote from: StillWarriors on February 28, 2018, 12:39:10 PM
Especially because it would be with two players.....and both are only sophomores. Pretty remarkable.
Good selling point to Hagens....lots o' dimes to drop.
Title: Re: Sam's shooting
Post by: MU82 on February 28, 2018, 12:55:15 PM
I'd be happy to change the title. How do I do it?
Title: Re: Sam's shooting
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on February 28, 2018, 12:59:07 PM
Through last night, Sam is third at 52.1% behind Winston at MSU (56.5%) and Masterson at Kenneshaw State (55.1%). Minimum 40% of minutes and at least two treys per game. He is #1 in conference at 54.4%.
Title: Re:Teaching MU82 how to internet
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on February 28, 2018, 01:12:12 PM
Quote from: MU82 on February 28, 2018, 12:55:15 PM
I'd be happy to change the title. How do I do it?

Click modify and change the subject line at the top.

For example, I've changed the title of this response  ;D
Title: Re: Sam's shooting
Post by: GoldenDieners32 on February 28, 2018, 01:24:05 PM
Quote from: tower912 on February 28, 2018, 12:30:10 PM
I saw the title and almost reflexively said 'Thoughts and prayers.'

Sam is shooting well.
well might be an understatement
Title: Re: Sam's shooting
Post by: Boozemon Barro on February 28, 2018, 01:44:54 PM
You guys need to quit watching so much news. Shooting should not need a qualifier on a basketball message board.
Title: Re: Sam's shooting
Post by: Jay Bee on February 28, 2018, 02:13:43 PM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on February 28, 2018, 12:59:07 PM
Through last night, Sam is third at 52.1% behind Winston at MSU (56.5%) and Masterson at Kenneshaw State (55.1%). Minimum 40% of minutes and at least two treys per game. He is #1 in conference at 54.4%.

Nope, that's not how it works... see:

http://latenighthoops.com/sam-hauser-sits-2-nationally-3fg/#.WpcNPXBMGEc
Title: Re: Sam's shooting
Post by: connie on February 28, 2018, 02:21:44 PM
As much as I love Sam's shooting, I am really liking it when he posts up.
Title: Re: Sam's 3-point shot-making (there ... that's better!)
Post by: MU82 on February 28, 2018, 02:30:54 PM
Took my stats directly from the NCAA site:

https://www.ncaa.com/stats/basketball-men/d1/current/individual/143

Burchfield 52.2% ... Sam 52.1% ... Wolford 49.5% ... Mathis 49.4%

"Min. 2.5 made per game. Players must play in 75% of their team's games"

Through games of February 27, 2018.
Title: Re: Sam's shooting
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 28, 2018, 02:34:33 PM
Quote from: connie on February 28, 2018, 02:21:44 PM
As much as I love Sam's shooting, I am really liking it when he posts up.

There is a joke in here somewhere....
Title: Re: Sam's 3-point shot-making (there ... that's better!)
Post by: #UnleashSean on February 28, 2018, 02:35:15 PM
Sam is also basically #3 in offensive rating in the NCAA. #1 and #3 are low offensive usage post players. Take a guess at who #1 is.
Title: Re: Sam's 3-point shot-making (there ... that's better!)
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on February 28, 2018, 02:39:15 PM
Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on February 28, 2018, 02:35:15 PM
Sam is also basically #3 in offensive rating in the NCAA. #1 and #3 are low offensive usage post players. Take a guess at who #1 is.

Heldt's Bells!
Title: Re: Sam's 3-point shot-making (there ... that's better!)
Post by: Jay Bee on February 28, 2018, 02:46:20 PM
Quote from: MU82 on February 28, 2018, 02:30:54 PM
Took my stats directly from the NCAA site:

https://www.ncaa.com/stats/basketball-men/d1/current/individual/143

Burchfield 52.2% ... Sam 52.1% ... Wolford 49.5% ... Mathis 49.4%

"Min. 2.5 made per game. Players must play in 75% of their team's games"

Through games of February 27, 2018.

If you look at my link above (nh), Sam is only in second because Burchfield went off against non-NCAA teams. So dumb
Title: Re: Sam's 3-point shot-making (there ... that's better!)
Post by: MU82 on February 28, 2018, 03:41:34 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on February 28, 2018, 02:46:20 PM
If you look at my link above (nh), Sam is only in second because Burchfield went off against non-NCAA teams. So dumb

Thanks for that link, JB. Yeah, that blows.

Sam still can beat him anyway!
Title: Re: Sam's 3-point shot-making (there ... that's better!)
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on February 28, 2018, 04:40:43 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on February 28, 2018, 02:46:20 PM
If you look at my link above (nh), Sam is only in second because Burchfield went off against non-NCAA teams. So dumb

To quantify this:

Burchfield went 8-10 in two games against non-D1 opponents. That puts his 3P% at 50.3% against D1 opponents. Still impressive, still puts him in second place, but his D1% is 1.9% below Sammy's. Sam also has a few more attempts than Burchfield. Hopefully Sammy keeps stroking and takes his rightful place at the top.

Fun tidbit, Burchfield went 10/12 from deep against Marshall early in the season. I think this is fun because Marshall owns the top spot and is tied for the 2nd spot for most three pointers in a game by an individual. Keith Vaney hit 15 against Morehead State in 1996 and Ronald Blackshear hit 14 against Akron in 2002.
Title: Re: Sam's 3-point shot-making (there ... that's better!)
Post by: real chili 83 on February 28, 2018, 05:16:28 PM
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on February 28, 2018, 02:39:15 PM
Heldt's Bells!

THE TERROR
Title: Re: Sam's shooting
Post by: cheese ball chaser on February 28, 2018, 05:39:24 PM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on February 28, 2018, 12:59:07 PM
Through last night, Sam is third at 52.1% behind Winston at MSU (56.5%) and Masterson at Kenneshaw State (55.1%). Minimum 40% of minutes and at least two treys per game. He is #1 in conference at 54.4%.

Didn't we recruit Winston or am I mis-remembering?
Title: Re: Sam's shooting
Post by: Jay Bee on February 28, 2018, 05:43:06 PM
Quote from: cheese ball chaser on February 28, 2018, 05:39:24 PM
Didn't we recruit Winston or am I mis-remembering?

Yes we did
Title: Re: Sam's shooting
Post by: GooooMarquette on February 28, 2018, 05:47:34 PM
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 28, 2018, 02:34:33 PM
There is a joke in here somewhere....

;D
Title: Re: Sam's shooting
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on February 28, 2018, 07:41:18 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on February 28, 2018, 02:13:43 PM
Nope, that's not how it works... see:

http://latenighthoops.com/sam-hauser-sits-2-nationally-3fg/#.WpcNPXBMGEc

I get my stats from Pomeroy, not some guy who takes his dates to Chucky Cheese.

#fakenews
Title: Re: Sam's shooting
Post by: Jay Bee on February 28, 2018, 07:56:44 PM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on February 28, 2018, 07:41:18 PM
I get my stats from Pomeroy, not some guy who takes his dates to Chucky Cheese.

#fakenews

Your stats are fine - they just #NoMatta when it comes to the NCAA awards. You're using minimums that don't matter to the NCAA plaque system.
Title: Re: Sam's 3-point shot-making (there ... that's better!)
Post by: forgetful on February 28, 2018, 08:00:26 PM
Quote from: MU82 on February 28, 2018, 02:30:54 PM
Took my stats directly from the NCAA site:

https://www.ncaa.com/stats/basketball-men/d1/current/individual/143

Burchfield 52.2% ... Sam 52.1% ... Wolford 49.5% ... Mathis 49.4%

"Min. 2.5 made per game. Players must play in 75% of their team's games"

Through games of February 27, 2018.

So everyone is technically correct.  Cassius Winston is at 56.5%, but he only makes 2.3 makes per game, that is below the 2.5 cutoff, but is still enough so that he has made 70 3's this season. 

Masterson is at 54.1%, but is at 2.4 makes per game, enough for 73 made 3's, but below the 2.5 cutoff the NCAA uses. 

Yes, the NCAA is the official stat keeper, and they use the 2.5 cutoff, so that is the important value for the NCAA awards.

Regardless, Sam is killing it and it'll be great if he can pull off the top spot in the NCAA rankings.
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