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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: BM1090 on February 26, 2018, 05:49:02 PM
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Howard and Rowsey both starting. Hope we are hot early.
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Never really been one to place blame on Wojo but last game was crazy.
Hope he’s more flexible tonight.
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Rich Waltz is the busy guy. Chicago on Saturday. Reno on Sunday. DC tonight.
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Let's hope the team matured
Chat room open:
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Markus and Andrew start, ugh!
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I don’t understand why Rowsey and Howard are both starting despite how good of scorers both are. Does Wojo not see the defensive limitations with both of them on the floor and how good it worked against Creighton when we only had Rowsey on the floor?
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Early signs of life. Getting a few open looks, making, open looks, Heldt hitting the floor to get a contested board. All good things. Not thrilled with the starting lineup, but so far, so good.
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7-0. Yes!! Everything has been fixed from Saturday!!
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Looking like Ewing might have missed Sam on the scouting report. They just keep ficing him shots. I'll take that kind of defense all day.
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Zone keeping Georgetown in the game.
Starting Howard and Rowsey because they are the two best guards. As Elliott falls down again.
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Freshman does good thing, freshman does dumb things. Elliott not good in traffic so far.
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Never really been one to place blame on Wojo but last game was crazy.
Hope he’s more flexible tonight.
It was crazy because Wojo told them to turn the ball over n miss shots and get out rebounded? Ya lets hope he tells them not to do that tonight.
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I don't think any of the last 3 fouls called on Marquette were fouls.
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Awful sequence
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Uh-oh !!! wojo iscoaching bad again, now
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Zone keeping Georgetown in the game.
Starting Howard and Rowsey because they are the two best guards. As Elliott falls down again.
Separately, not together.
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Zone keeping Georgetown in the game.
Starting Howard and Rowsey because they are the two best guards. As Elliott falls down again.
Fouling them every time they shoot also helps. Ridiculous, every game. Another starter in trouble now Howard with two.
10 point lead gone. Sacar losing it, Cain losing it, Rowsey lost it. Then another foul. Oh well, nothing different.
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Uh-oh !!! wojo iscoaching bad again, now
Sam's been out too long...that's a mistake
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Sam's been out too long...that's a mistake
Lol he sat like 3 minutes.
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You tell them Wojo, Stop Fouling.........In the huddle.....
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Sam has to sit. 12-1 run with him on the bench. Freshmen not strong with the ball yet. Howard sitting during the run, too. Need new scapegoat narrative.
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We literally can’t defend without fouling
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We're watching the two worst teams in Big East. This is awful basketball.
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Most of this run has come off of freshman turnovers n other freshman mistakes. Does this make wojo a bad coach?
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Some of the shots Georgetown is hitting are just incredible.
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Lol he sat like 3 minutes.
3 minutes too long
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20-3 run?
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We're watching the two worst teams in Big East. This is awful basketball.
Lol teams shooting 80% from 3 and this is your conclusion.
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We literally can’t defend without fouling
Need to get stronger.
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Some of the shots Georgetown is hitting are just incredible.
Stop. People say that every game, Marquette does nothing defensively to make teams uncomfortable.
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Lol teams shooting 80% from 3 and this is your conclusion.
Horrible defense on both ends.
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3 minutes too long
I forgot Sam is a robot.
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We can’t even get the ball inside the 3 point line. Just so embarrassing
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Stop. People say that every game, Marquette does nothing defensively to make teams uncomfortable.
Not really talking about the difficulty of the shots. More the lucky bounces on the rim
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3 minutes too long
Stupid.
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And people want Howard as or pg next year..
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Sam's been out too long...that's a mistake
Guru u are a complete moron. U have an excuse for everything. That is about as long as Wojo has kept hauser in because he was hot. Theo, jamal and greg had a bout 6 turnover over a bout 10 possesions beacuse we r incredibly young. Its sumple n unfortunate but wooden cant controll that either
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Getting busted up by bums again. Shocking.
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Need to get stronger.
Stronger would help, but must be smart. This trend has been there all year, almost every game.
With three minutes left, MU has four players with two fouls. MU is 1-2 from line, Geo is 10-12. Again, ridiculous.
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The momentum changed with Sam and Markus out when Cain went for the heat check. Freshmen turned it over, offensive flow gone, dumb weak fouls, 20 point swing.
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This game is already ugly so winning is what matters. Hope they figure it out.
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Who plays first? Marotta or Froling?
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Not really talking about the difficulty of the shots. More the lucky bounces on the rim
Every team we play has a great shooting night and we always foul.
I miss Buzz and his mantra of wanting to make more free throws then the other team attempts and paint touches.
Our paint touches result in turnovers.
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Guru u are a complete moron. U have an excuse for everything. That is about as long as Wojo has kept hauser in because he was hot. Theo, jamal and greg had a bout 6 turnover over a bout 10 possesions beacuse we r incredibly young. Its sumple n unfortunate but wooden cant controll that either
You are the moron...how about not playing 3 Freshman at the same time(yes, it can be avoided)??
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We are just not a good team. We’ve regressed big time
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Guys, we are utter crap. I'm not sure how ed morrow or joey hauser make us a contender. When we are a low seed for the tourney next year, is the seat hot?
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You are the moron...how about not playing 3 Freshman at the same time(yes, it can be avoided)??
So howard picks up his second and hauser had played 8 minutes who would you put in??
Hint: there are only frehman on the bench n froling 😂😂😂
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We are just not a good team. We’ve regressed big time
From which point? Last year, five years ago, 10 years ago?
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Lucky to be down 6 after a good start.
Do we have 20 minutes in us?
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From which point? Last year, five years ago, 10 years ago?
Halfway through the season? With each passing game?
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Guys, we are utter crap. I'm not sure how ed morrow or joey hauser make us a contender. When we are a low seed for the tourney next year, is the seat hot?
We need a skilled athletic guard.
Howard is skilled but not athletic
Sacar is athletic but no skill.
Greg i think fits the bill but needs strength.
A grad transfer that can handle the ball and get to the rim would fundamentally change this team. A tony miller would change this program
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MU shooting 63% from three, GEO is 66%, wow.....
Free throws though, MU is 2-5 with Sam missing one and then front end. 3 points lost.
GEO is 14-16 from the line
Howard took one shot in the first half, one.
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So howard picks up his second and hauser had played 8 minutes who would you put in??
Hint: there are only frehman on the bench n froling 😂😂😂
I have NEVER agreed with Coaches taking guys out with two fouls..yeah they all do it, and I think it's stupid..You get 5..what difference does it make if you pick up your third in the 1st half, or the second half?? Or...maybe they never even pick up a 3rd. You don't know. Coaches act like the 2nd half is more important than the first half..It's not. Leave Howard and Sam in. That's what you do. Sam played 40 against DePaul, guys in CBB do it all the time. Give Froling some run...wonder if he ever thought of that?? It's not rocket science.
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Size matters.
Experience matters.
Health matters.
Depth matters.
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Size matters.
Experience matters.
Health matters.
Depth matters.
Guess MU should just head on the Metro and go home now.....
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The difference in free throw rate is absurd, and i don't think besides maybe 2 calls it has much to do with the refs. We just foul constantly.
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We need a skilled athletic guard.
Howard is skilled but not athletic
Sacar is athletic but no skill.
Greg i think fits the bill but needs strength.
A grad transfer that can handle the ball and get to the rim would fundamentally change this team. A tony miller would change this program
I don't see this team's defense improving much next season. Our lack of athleticism is too apparent.
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Size matters.
Experience matters.
Health matters.
Depth matters.
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So next year we will be taller, more experienced, healthier and have more depth. Does that mean we finish in the top 3 in the Big East?
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Starting Theo, Morrow, Sam, Markus and TBD make MU much more athletic.
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I don't see this team's defense improving much next season. Our lack of athleticism is too apparent.
I don't think our defense will improve next season either but it has nothing to do with athleticism. Wojo doesn't know how to coach it. Wisconsin teams under Bo Ryan were never athletic but they always had a great defense.
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I'm sorry, have we never overcome a 6 point defecit before. If Georgetown comes down to earth from 3 and we get anything from Markus, we'll be right there.
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Lot of basketball left, not giving up
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Halfway through the season? With each passing game?
Huh, I remember being pretty good two games ago...and three games ago
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We need a skilled athletic guard.
Howard is skilled but not athletic
Sacar is athletic but no skill.
Greg i think fits the bill but needs strength.
A grad transfer that can handle the ball and get to the rim would fundamentally change this team. A tony miller Butch Lee would change this program
FIFY
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I'm sorry, have we never overcome a 6 point defecit before. If Georgetown comes down to earth from 3 and we get anything from Markus, we'll be right there.
But the sky is falling!
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Size matters.
Experience matters.
Health matters.
Depth matters.
4 years in and this is our reality.
And health matters? We’ve been entirelybgealthy Wojos entire tenure. It’s been remarkable actually. Markus is not limited whatsover. Not tonight. Not against DePaul. To say differently is offering up yet another excuse for the “rebuild” being painfully slow
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But the sky is falling!
The sky is falling. We have not been good 4 out of the last 5 years. Excuses or no excuses, it has been an overall disappointing stretch after a couple of sweet 16s and an elite 8.
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Remember, Georgetown fades. I’m hoping on it.
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I've never seen someone bobble or drop so many passes. My goodness, Heldt.
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Ewing made adjustment at half. Now going into Govan. That’s five straight possessions, with MU getting beat on boards or fouling. Working and watch if it continues.
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4 years in and this is our reality.
And health matters? We’ve been entirelybgealthy Wojos entire tenure. It’s been remarkable actually. Markus is not limited whatsover. Not tonight. Not against DePaul. To say differently is offering up yet another excuse for the “rebuild” being painfully slow
Well, we have been remarkably healthy for sure. But then the next part of your statement is BS. You have no idea if Markus is or was limited.
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The difference in the game right now could be accounted to theo and heldts fumbles alone
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Heldt with three and John with four fouls. Harry time.........
Govan again........
Sacar again.......to the fans, that’s twice.
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Man Rowsey is such an fin chucker!! Can any one else get a shot!!!??
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That call on Rowsey is one of the top 10 worst calls I've ever seen.
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I don't think our defense will improve next season either but it has nothing to do with athleticism. Wojo doesn't know how to coach it. Wisconsin teams under Bo Ryan were never athletic but they always had a great defense.
I think you may be right. 3 of our players can't even get the rebound from one of their players, unbelievable!
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Team is really really really out of control.
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That call on Rowsey is one of the top 10 worst calls I've ever seen.
Make up call maybe? That was really a weird call. Did the ref think Rowsey was setting a moving screen on his own guy? Odd sequence.
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One issue with the last 2 games is sacar has been horrible
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That foul on Georgetown actually may have been worse lol
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Rowsey calm down, please.
Control the fouls
Stop making stupid, stupid turnovers.
Derrickson with four, now is the time.
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Our only hope is GT plzYs worse than us. We are awful and they haven’t pulled away
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Our problem is we can't get a rebound ....again.
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Howard with an awesome step back 3..! Great shot selection
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Howard with an awesome step back 3..! Great shot selection
Ya cant decide who has the worst shot selection on our team, howard or Rowsey? Bothe exceedingly stupid. Wonder if Markus wonders why his shooting percentages suck
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Can't keep Harry down, hey?
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Is it bad that I’m actually not happy when Rowsey makes a shot? Because it inevitably leads to more chucking?
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Can't keep Harry down, hey?
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I'm ready for froling to give the 2 finger salute to wojo.
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Harry's threes look 100 times better than they did early on. Not so flat.
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I'm ready for froling to give the 2 finger salute to wojo.
Why?
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Oh-oh. Harry’s home
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Harry's threes look 100 times better than they did early on. Not so flat.
And they go in...
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Hate to think what a difference Froling could’ve made Saturday
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Sam is 8-11 and 6-6 from 3 now, yet Rowsey has still taken 5 more shots and made less. PLEASE Rowsey just pass it to Sam every time, I beg you
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Hate to think what a difference Froling could’ve made Saturday
Man you are just miserable.
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Man you are just miserable.
He's not the only one thinking that. It's a pretty reasonable thing to think, actually, considering his output so far tonight.
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Man you are just miserable.
lol
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That’s three loose balls lost and Geo has hit threes on all three. Unreal. Nine points.
No one else shoot but Sam.
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That’s three loose balls lost and Geo has hit threes on all three. Unreal. Nine points.
No one else shoot but Sam.
Yeah those bounces have been crazy unlucky.
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Howard as a pg next year.. please no.
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Yeah those bounces have been crazy unlucky.
Wojo’s fault
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Man you are just miserable.
I think the same thing as he does.
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I’m waiting for GT to fold...
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I’m waiting for GT to fold...
Howard is bad.
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I’m waiting for GT to fold...
Lots of misery on the board tonight lmao
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He's not the only one thinking that. It's a pretty reasonable thing to think, actually, considering his output so far tonight.
Whine, whine, moan, moan, bitch, bitch and whine some more...
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Whine, whine, moan, moan, bitch, bitch and whine some more...
If only we could be as happy as you. When I read your endless pissing matches on this site day after day I think, now there’s a guy that exudes happiness
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If only we could be as happy as you.
It's an admirable goal, but you are too miserable to ever attain it.
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It's an admirable goal, but you are too miserable to ever attain it.
No really. You’re a beacon of positivity lol
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Sacar,Greg,and Cain played well when they were winning,they didn't play well Saturday or tonight
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Whine, whine, moan, moan, bitch, bitch and whine some more...
You gotta look up the definitions of the words you use, dude. You don't seem to know what any of those mean.
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That was a fantastic play drawn up. Too bad he finally missed one
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Perfect look. Just missed
That'll hurt.
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Can't ask for a better shot off the timeout. I thought that was good for sure. Hard to go 8/8 from range, though.
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Great set, great shot. Problem is we need to do more of just that. The dumb shots by rowsey n howard need to be sets for hauser
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GT better not get another shot off in regulation
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Well that was incredible defense.....
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Why do we have have to call a timeout every time just to run a set?
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How do they let him go the length without slowing him down??
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That was brutal defense, no excuses for that Andrew. Just flat footed and did absolutely nothing.
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Ole’!
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Crazy 10 seconds. Not our best set, but Sam is just on fire tonight!
Feed Sam in OT. That's all we need to do to get the W.
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That was brutal defense, no excuses for that Andrew. Just flat footed and did absolutely nothing.
Heldt needs to be defending the rim there too.
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Why do we have have to call a timeout every time just to run a set?
We still had one left, why not use it?
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How do you let them do that with less than 4 seconds
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That was brutal defense, no excuses for that Andrew. Just flat footed and did absolutely nothing.
Rowsey? Lol? That was heldt not covering the the lane. Rowsey covered the three perfectly.
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I would 100x rather have a foul trying to stop the ball than that crap
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We disregard the ball till it crosses mid court. Gotta be up on it n try to turn or slow him down, immature stupid play. Zero resistance.
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I always want 3/4 court pressure there. need to make them struggle to even get it to half court
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Great ole' defense by Rowsey, and then a stupid TO.
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Needed that wide open 3 from Markus.
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Good coaching move putting cain and Elliot in for Howard and Rowsey. Shoulda seen more of this on the year.
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Definitely have the D List announcers tonight. Fox Sports knows this game is inconsequential, unfortunately.
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Good coaching move putting cain and Elliot in for Howard and Rowsey. Shoulda seen more of this on the year.
Love that move.
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GT did not fold to their credit. But if they had won all those close games they could be chasing 9 wins.
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My god sacar could’ve easily been called for a foul on the 3, complete lack of awareness there. Lucky. Great win though, really competed in the second half
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That was incredibly close to being a 4 point play with that stupid defense by Sacar. He got lucky they didn’t call it and he barely missed the shot
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Annnddd exhale... whew! Heckuva game. Lots of positives tonight, but especially Sam. He was out of his mind.
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That was scary by Sacar right!! :( :o ::)
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My god sacar could’ve easily been called for a foul on the 3, complete lack of awareness there. Lucky. Great win though, really competed in the second half
Yup. That would have been ugly, no need for him to be near three feet, up four.
Whew, close. 24 to 8 differential in free throws made and pull it out.
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Weird that Rich Waltz and Tarik Turner got confused when it was a 4 point game. I guess they were saying the scoreboard was wrong. For a second, I thought I had the score wrong in my head.
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Weird that Rich Waltz and Tarik Turner got confused when it was a 4 point game. I guess they were saying the scoreboard was wrong. For a second, I thought I had the score wrong in my head.
Well it was wrong for about five seconds. They should have realized it much earlier than they did.
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How do you let them do that with less than 4 seconds
Did anybody notice that they didn’t start the clock for about a full second after Mulmore took the inbound??????
EDIT: NM, watched it a few more times. He didn’t touch the ball until around half court.
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Did anybody notice that they didn’t start the clock for about a full second after Mulmore took the inbound??????
No but that would help explain it
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Did anybody notice that they didn’t start the clock for about a full second after Mulmore took the inbound??????
EDIT: NM, watched it a few more times. He didn’t touch the ball until around half court.
Just watched the replay and was going to mention he didn't touch it initially, but you beat me to it ;)
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Yup. That would have been ugly, no need for him to be near three feet, up four.
Whew, close. 24 to 8 differential in free throws made and pull it out.
#FTsNoMatta but FTrate does — fortunately not a ton tho.
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#FTsNoMatta but FTrate does — fortunately not a ton tho.
Yep. Because eFG% reigns supreme and we had to shoot 58% from 3pt line on 31 attempts to beat the Number 97 ranked team in Overtime. Definitely a formula for winning - get crushed at the FT Line game in, game out, and rely on elite 3pt shooting (to beat teams ranked 97th).
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Yep. Because eFG% reigns supreme and we had to shoot 58% from 3pt line on 31 attempts to beat the Number 97 ranked team in Overtime. Definitely a formula for winning - get crushed at the FT Line game in, game out, and rely on elite 3pt shooting (to beat teams ranked 97th).
SH / Creighton not 97
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Yep. Because eFG% reigns supreme and we had to shoot 58% from 3pt line on 31 attempts to beat the Number 97 ranked team in Overtime. Definitely a formula for winning - get crushed at the FT Line game in, game out, and rely on elite 3pt shooting (to beat teams ranked 97th).
You can't fix stupid
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You can't fix stupid
I know. Hopefully Wojo gets it one of these years. Maybe JayBee and his FTs no matta mantra too. We lost to DePaul with a better eFG, because we once again were a fouling machine in M2M.
Apparently, eFg doesn't always reign supreme and somehow beyond all crazy, DePaul getting to the line 32 times and making 23 of them, blew our 6-9 performance from the FT Line out of the water. The feat damn near repeated itself at Number 97 GTown - we needed to shoot 58% from 3 on 18-31 to beat them in Overtime. Just don't see 58% from 3 on 30+ attempts being sustainable. To think otherwise is the height of stupid.
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Well, the Ners experiment went well for about a week.
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Well, the Ners experiment went well for about a week.
He's actually been around a month or two and been fine. Ners is a great poster until he finds his next John Dawson. He knows his stuff but has the tendency to get tunnel vision about one specific coaching decision
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He's actually been around a month or two and been fine. Ners is a great poster until he finds his next John Dawson. He knows his stuff but has the tendency to get tunnel vision about one specific coaching decision
Yep, I would agree with this. I was exaggerating. It started to annoy me again about a week ago.
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Yep, I would agree with this. I was exaggerating. It started to annoy me again about a week ago.
Yes, the Floorslapper persona was dropped and it was back to Ners.
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Yes, the Floorslapper persona was dropped and it was back to Ners.
Maybe you guys can all have your own thread about this. Seems to be a hot topic for a handful on here.
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Maybe you guys can all have your own thread about this. Seems to be a hot topic for a handful on here.
My bad. In the future I'll be sure to PM you for your approval on correct posting procedures to ensure they meet with your standards.
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My bad. In the future I'll be sure to PM you for your approval on correct posting procedures to ensure they meet with your standards.
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My bad. In the future I'll be sure to PM you for your approval on correct posting procedures to ensure they meet with your standards.
If that helps avoid the repetition of complaints in every other thread, I'm good with that.
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If that helps avoid the repetition of complaints in every other thread, I'm good with that.
If you can't complain repeatedly in every thread, what are you going to do around here?
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If that helps avoid the repetition of complaints in every other thread, I'm good with that.
If Ners didn't beat the same dead horse in every thread, there wouldn't be complaining in every thread.
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If you can't complain repeatedly in every thread, what are you going to do around here?
You keep struggling with that word. If I have anything less than complimentary to say about Wojo, you call it complaining. If I suggest a common forum for the few that talk more about posting history than about the actual thread topics, you call that complaining.
My only real complaint is that I have to read through these weird personal vendettas in so many threads.
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I know. Hopefully Wojo gets it one of these years. Maybe JayBee and his FTs no matta mantra too. We lost to DePaul with a better eFG, because we once again were a fouling machine in M2M.
Apparently, eFg doesn't always reign supreme and somehow beyond all crazy, DePaul getting to the line 32 times and making 23 of them, blew our 6-9 performance from the FT Line out of the water. The feat damn near repeated itself at Number 97 GTown - we needed to shoot 58% from 3 on 18-31 to beat them in Overtime. Just don't see 58% from 3 on 30+ attempts being sustainable. To think otherwise is the height of stupid.
Can't be fixed, but he can dunk!