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Title: The End
Post by: Hards Alumni on February 10, 2018, 01:18:12 PM
That's all she wrote for the post season guys.  Pack it up!
Title: Re: The End
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on February 10, 2018, 01:22:07 PM
Sigh.

5-0 Lock
4-1 Should be in
3-2 Should be out but theoretically possible with run in BET
2-3 need to win the BET
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Mu2323 on February 10, 2018, 01:24:17 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 10, 2018, 01:22:07 PM
Sigh.

5-0 Lock
4-1 Should be in
3-2 Should be out but theoretically possible with run in BET
2-3 need to win the BET

LOL there has been nothing over the last month that leads me to believe this team can win any specific game left on there schedule. The team plays zero defense and turns the ball over constantly.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Mu2323 on February 10, 2018, 01:25:21 PM
Quote from: Mu2323 on February 10, 2018, 01:24:17 PM
LOL there has been nothing over the last month that leads me to believe this team can win any specific game left on there schedule. The team plays zero defense and turns the ball over constantly. The end has been here for awhile yet no one seems to ever get that. Fans continue to give Coach Wojo rope but nothing about him shows he is even a decent coach. Barely .500 over the last 4 seasons.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Marquette4life on February 10, 2018, 01:29:50 PM
Quote from: Mu2323 on February 10, 2018, 01:24:17 PM
LOL there has been nothing over the last month that leads me to believe this team can win any specific game left on there schedule. The team plays zero defense and turns the ball over constantly.
@depaul?
Title: Re: The End
Post by: forgetful on February 10, 2018, 01:31:20 PM
I still think we win:

Home against St. Johns
Home against Creighton
Away against Depaul

The season comes down to whether we can win one of either:
@Creighton
@Georgetown
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Marquette4life on February 10, 2018, 01:32:09 PM
Quote from: forgetful on February 10, 2018, 01:31:20 PM
I still think we win:

Home against St. Johns
Home against Creighton
Away against Depaul

The season comes down to whether we can win one of either: totally agree
@Creighton
@Georgetown
Title: Re: The End
Post by: goldeneagle91114 on February 10, 2018, 01:33:23 PM
Quote from: forgetful on February 10, 2018, 01:31:20 PM
I still think we win:

Home against St. Johns
Home against Creighton
Away against Depaul

The season comes down to whether we can win one of either:
@Creighton
@Georgetown

Did you watch today's game and do you know who Creighton is? If so, I'm not sure how you could draw these types of conclusions.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Jay Bee on February 10, 2018, 02:13:29 PM
Quote from: Mu2323 on February 10, 2018, 01:24:17 PM
LOL there has been nothing over the last month that leads me to believe this team can win any specific game left on there schedule. The team plays zero defense and turns the ball over constantly.

Their vs. there

This team does NOT have an issue turning it over. That's just false.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: fjm on February 10, 2018, 02:13:43 PM
Meh.

I predicted NIT this season I'm ok with it. Many of us expected it really.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: mileskishnish72 on February 10, 2018, 02:17:26 PM
We will win @ DeP & GT, lose @ CRT.
It all comes down to beating SJU & CRT @ home.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Nukem2 on February 10, 2018, 02:22:15 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on February 10, 2018, 02:13:29 PM
Their vs. there

This team does NOT have an issue turning it over. That's just false.
I think the issue is more about untimely unforced or just "lazy" TOs as opposed to volume thereof.  We've seen that against Butler, The Friars and today recently.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: esotericmindguy on February 10, 2018, 02:28:11 PM
Quote from: fjm on February 10, 2018, 02:13:43 PM
Meh.

I predicted NIT this season I'm ok with it. Many of us expected it really.

Unless they go 3-2 they aren't making the NIT either. They take conference winners and bubble teams left out of Tourney. I don't see this team going 3-2. Roster is way to thin. Heldt, Anim and Froling are largely useless. I'm sure they're nice kids but they shouldn't be Marquette players. I'm still holding out hope for Froling but Heldt and Anim are low major players.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on February 10, 2018, 02:37:46 PM
Quote from: esotericmindguy on February 10, 2018, 02:28:11 PM
Unless they go 3-2 they aren't making the NIT either. They take conference winners and bubble teams left out of Tourney. I don't see this team going 3-2. Roster is way to thin. Heldt, Anim and Froling are largely useless. I'm sure they're nice kids but they shouldn't be Marquette players. I'm still holding out hope for Froling but Heldt and Anim are low major players.

If we go 3-2 we will likely end up in the first four or next four out. I would be shocked if we don't make the NIT.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on February 10, 2018, 02:41:04 PM
Quote from: Mu2323 on February 10, 2018, 01:24:17 PM
LOL there has been nothing over the last month that leads me to believe this team can win any specific game left on there schedule. The team plays zero defense and turns the ball over constantly.

If you want to argue that MU won't make the tournament because we can't win the games we need to I will buy that argument. I think 4-1 is doable but I think we fall just short, 3-2 and end up in the NIT.

But the argument that we can't make the tournament now is just wrong. 5-0 or 4-1 does it. 3-2 is even possible with a run in the BET (though still unlikely).
Title: Re: The End
Post by: nyg on February 10, 2018, 02:42:42 PM
Quote from: fjm on February 10, 2018, 02:13:43 PM
Meh.

I predicted NIT this season I'm ok with it. Many of us expected it really.

Thats what I had, NIT.  I had them 7-11 in BE play and hopefully it doesn't happen.  Need 4-1 for NCAA. But the team is in a serious rut right now and they probably beat Depaul and St. Johns, that may be it.  Wish them good luck. 
Title: Re: The End
Post by: GrimmReaper33 on February 10, 2018, 02:52:10 PM
They could still sneak in the tourney if they finish strong.  I'm mostly just disappointed the program hasn't taken the next step in the Wojo era at this point. 

Making the tournament is not that hard these days, especially for major conference teams.  Just look at some of the teams- like Marquette- hovering around the Last 4 in.  Just a bunch of teams that aren't good. 

When does this team/program get back to being a mainstay in the top 25 and compete for conference titles?  That's the measuring stick I'm looking for.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Earl Tatum on February 10, 2018, 02:59:28 PM
I was a big Wojo Backer until these last four games. We needed to
win. I think certain individuals have regressed.  I don't care if this
team is young. At this time into the season some players should
have stepped up by now. I was looking for big thing from Harry but
her is Charmin out there. I  was against Buzz, he looks like an ace
now. Need a veteran hard nose coach.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: GGGG on February 10, 2018, 03:03:54 PM
I thought of this movie scene when I saw the title.  Probably appropriate.

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/a99f195f9e800cb561b47fec2a80c0e1/tumblr_nbvctftUbA1rxmai6o4_500.gif)
Title: Re: The End
Post by: MarquetteDano on February 10, 2018, 03:21:38 PM
Quote from: #bansultan on February 10, 2018, 03:03:54 PM
I thought of this movie scene when I saw the title.  Probably appropriate.

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/a99f195f9e800cb561b47fec2a80c0e1/tumblr_nbvctftUbA1rxmai6o4_500.gif)

cue Jim Morrison.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: tower912 on February 10, 2018, 03:40:03 PM
Tried so hard and got so far.
But in the end, it doesn't even matter.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: real chili 83 on February 10, 2018, 03:45:08 PM
DePaul up by 15 at the half AT Providence.  Now that, really is The End. 
Title: Re: The End
Post by: willie warrior on February 10, 2018, 03:46:44 PM
Quote from: real chili 83 on February 10, 2018, 03:45:08 PM
DePaul up by 15 at the half AT Providence.  Now that, really is The End.
Bold Prediction: We will go down to DePaul. Now that should become Armageddon.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: GooooMarquette on February 10, 2018, 03:49:14 PM
Quote from: Nukem2 on February 10, 2018, 02:22:15 PM
I think the issue is more about untimely unforced or just "lazy" TOs as opposed to volume thereof.  We've seen that against Butler, The Friars and today recently.

This.  At least 3 or 4 of our TOs today came when a guy lazily telegraphed a pass for an easy pick by a quick guard, leading to a breakaway.  At one point my wife asked why I kept screaming "lazy pass."
Title: Re: The End
Post by: NickelDimer on February 10, 2018, 03:50:40 PM
Here's the only important question; were the MU reporters gentle to Woj in the post game?
Title: Re: The End
Post by: GooooMarquette on February 10, 2018, 03:55:05 PM
Quote from: NickelDimer on February 10, 2018, 03:50:40 PM
Here's the only important question; were the MU reporters gentle to Woj in the post game?

They have to be - have you seen his neck?
Title: Re: The End
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 10, 2018, 04:07:41 PM
Making the Tournament should not be the goal, rather that should be a given. Now, win and advance should be the focus. This year's team is not Tourney worthy.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Herman Cain on February 10, 2018, 04:24:59 PM
At this point we need to close the season out red hot. We need to run the table regular season and get to the Big East Tournament Final.  Today was not an embarassing loss. The Johnnies have been playing well and that small arena was very loud and a true road environment.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: MU82 on February 10, 2018, 04:35:34 PM
Quote from: Herman Cain on February 10, 2018, 04:24:59 PM
At this point we need to close the season out red hot. We need to run the table regular season and get to the Big East Tournament Final.  Today was not an embarassing loss. The Johnnies have been playing well and that small arena was very loud and a true road environment.

But we'll still finish 3rd in the Big East and get to the Sweet 16.

Helped you out a little there, 9-9-9.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: goldeneagle91114 on February 10, 2018, 04:35:59 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 10, 2018, 04:07:41 PM
Making the Tournament should not be the goal, rather that should be a given. Now, win and advance should be the focus. This year's team is not Tourney worthy.

It seems so, so long ago when Vander Blue was talking about how making it to the Sweet 16 wasn't good enough. That the team needed to find a way to get past the sweet 16.

Title: Re: The End
Post by: goldeneagle91114 on February 10, 2018, 04:38:51 PM
Quote from: Herman Cain on February 10, 2018, 04:24:59 PM
At this point we need to close the season out red hot. We need to run the table regular season and get to the Big East Tournament Final.  Today was not an embarassing loss. The Johnnies have been playing well and that small arena was very loud and a true road environment.

You're kidding right? this team has lost 5 of 6 and you're talking about making it to the BEAST finals?

This team also "needs" to not lose another game and win the national championship, but it's never going to happen.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: 79Warrior on February 10, 2018, 05:05:20 PM
Quote from: Herman Cain on February 10, 2018, 04:24:59 PM
At this point we need to close the season out red hot. We need to run the table regular season and get to the Big East Tournament Final.  Today was not an embarassing loss. The Johnnies have been playing well and that small arena was very loud and a true road environment.

Please. List to the Supertramp song "Dreamer"
Title: Re: The End
Post by: willie warrior on February 10, 2018, 05:31:04 PM
Quote from: MarquetteDano on February 10, 2018, 03:21:38 PM
cue Jim Morrison.
Or Marlon Brando bedding down with Richard Pryor. Oh..the agony...the agony.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: WarriorDad on February 10, 2018, 05:32:21 PM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on February 10, 2018, 01:18:12 PM
That's all she wrote for the post season guys.  Pack it up!

No NIT?   We are not going to the Big East tournament?  NCAA already gone?  You know something know one else knows?
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Herman Cain on February 10, 2018, 05:38:12 PM
Quote from: MU82 on February 10, 2018, 04:35:34 PM
Helped you out a little there, 9-9-9.
I think we can still get to that goal if we win out. Although we need a little help from the teams above us losing. But, hey ,appreciate the help.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: bilsu on February 10, 2018, 05:42:10 PM
Quote from: goldeneagle91114 on February 10, 2018, 01:33:23 PM
Did you watch today's game and do you know who Creighton is? If so, I'm not sure how you could draw these types of conclusions.
I think we can beat Creighton at least once and maybe twice. They are good, but like Seton Hall Creighton is not a bad matchup for us.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: muhoops1 on February 10, 2018, 05:48:52 PM
MU won't beat Creighton after 7 days off!  7 days!  That's way too long.  Remember the last time they had time off they soiled the bed in Cinci.

This team is too young to win after 7 days off.  3 max.  No less than 1.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: bilsu on February 10, 2018, 05:58:08 PM
Before teams game I divided the season into three two game sets:
St John's away & home
Creighton away & home
@DePaul & @Georgetown

I figure to get a bid we needed to sweep one of these sets and split the two others along with a first round tournament win. Losing to St. John's hurts, but does not change this scenario. What hurts is that DePaul and Georgetown also won today. I figure the one silver lining would be if we lost to St. John's they would get out of the 10th spot. We are likely to finish 7th and that means we play the 10th place team in the first round of Big East tournament. Playing St. John's at Madison Square Garden is a game I do not want to see. St. John's plays @DePaul next and they will be tied with DePaul if they win this game. I think, if they finished tied with DePaul their win over Villanova will be the tie breaker. With Georgetown winning there is a possibility that we end up tied with Georgetown. It is too early to determine the tie breaker, if this happens.

Title: Re: The End
Post by: bilsu on February 10, 2018, 05:59:55 PM
Quote from: muhoops1 on February 10, 2018, 05:48:52 PM
MU won't beat Creighton after 7 days off!  7 days!  That's way too long.  Remember the last time they had time off they soiled the bed in Cinci.

This team is too young to win after 7 days off.  3 max.  No less than 1.
Creighton also has 7 days off and is also coming off their first loss at home.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Hards Alumni on February 10, 2018, 06:07:53 PM
Quote from: WarriorDad on February 10, 2018, 05:32:21 PM
No NIT?   We are not going to the Big East tournament?  NCAA already gone?  You know something know one else knows?

No NIT.

Sure we're going to the BET, whoopdie freaking do.

NCAA is a dream, Chicos.

I know what a lot of people around here know, we're cooked.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: WarriorDad on February 10, 2018, 07:05:53 PM
Quote from: fjm on February 10, 2018, 02:13:43 PM
Meh.

I predicted NIT this season I'm ok with it. Many of us expected it really.


Same here.  NIT will happen for sure.  http://www.nycbuckets.com/current-nit-bracketology/


NCAA still a shot, though fleeting. 

Title: Re: The End
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 10, 2018, 07:23:32 PM
And Kendall Jenner is still available for all them single Scoopers two, hey?
Title: Re: The End
Post by: WarriorDad on February 11, 2018, 03:58:42 PM
Updated through today, MU projected NIT team.  Hardest schedule making the tournament with 13th rated schedule.

https://www.dratings.com/predictor/bracketology/

Title: Re: The End
Post by: Newsdreams on February 12, 2018, 12:26:26 PM
Quote from: #bansultan on February 10, 2018, 03:03:54 PM
I thought of this movie scene when I saw the title.  Probably appropriate.

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/a99f195f9e800cb561b47fec2a80c0e1/tumblr_nbvctftUbA1rxmai6o4_500.gif)
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