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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: GGGG on February 07, 2018, 02:45:58 PM

Title: "The New Big East will never be the Old Big East, and that’s a good thing"
Post by: GGGG on February 07, 2018, 02:45:58 PM
http://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2018/02/07/the-new-big-east-will-never-be-the-old-big-east-and-thats-a-good-thing/?sf181525204=1

"It's a league that is loaded with high-powered offenses that play at a fast pace. There are always going to be points put on the board in Big East games. There are always going to be thrilling, thoroughly watchable and aesthetically pleasing games on TV. Case-in-point: Everyone of the top seven conferences has at least one team allowing less than 1.00 points-per-possession in league play ... except the Big East. We're a little more than halfway through conference play and Creighton, at 1.052 PPP allowed, has been the best defensive team in the conference."

Amen Brother Dauster!

I was excited when the NBE emerged from the ashes of the old.  But even I never thought it would be this good.
Title: Re: "The New Big East will never be the Old Big East, and that’s a good thing"
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 07, 2018, 03:05:37 PM
Ken Pomeroy had a great piece posted on the Athletic a couple days about the Big East as it compares to older versions of the league.

He compared the current version of the Big East (2014-2018) to previous eras of the league (1980-91; 92-05; and 06-13).  He concluded that this version has been better than the first two iterations of the league, and just behind the 06-13 conglomerate league.

It was a great read.

https://theathletic.com//231793/2018/02/06/kenpom-comparing-the-eras-in-big-east-basketball/?redirected=1 (https://theathletic.com//231793/2018/02/06/kenpom-comparing-the-eras-in-big-east-basketball/?redirected=1)
Title: Re: "The New Big East will never be the Old Big East, and that’s a good thing"
Post by: skianth16 on February 07, 2018, 04:10:46 PM
Said another way, teams in the Big East aren't so great at defense. Is Marquette more exciting to watch than Virginia? Probably. But it's not always pretty.

Personally, I'd probably rather watch a team like MSU or Purdue that score a ton of points while still playing good defense.
Title: Re: "The New Big East will never be the Old Big East, and that’s a good thing"
Post by: GGGG on February 07, 2018, 04:13:56 PM
Quote from: skianth16 on February 07, 2018, 04:10:46 PM
Said another way, teams in the Big East aren't so great at defense. Is Marquette more exciting to watch than Virginia? Probably. But it's not always pretty.

Personally, I'd probably rather watch a team like MSU or Purdue that score a ton of points while still playing good defense.


You complain a lot.
Title: Re: "The New Big East will never be the Old Big East, and that’s a good thing"
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 07, 2018, 04:14:47 PM
Quote from: #bansultan on February 07, 2018, 04:13:56 PM

You complain a lot.

/ that's all he does.
Title: Re: "The New Big East will never be the Old Big East, and that’s a good thing"
Post by: GooooMarquette on February 07, 2018, 04:16:20 PM
Anyone know BE teams' PPP allowed in non conference vs conference games?

That might help distinguish good offense from bad defense.  I suspect it's a little of both, but it would be nice to see if the PPP allowed were substantially lower in non conference games....
Title: Re: "The New Big East will never be the Old Big East, and that’s a good thing"
Post by: skianth16 on February 07, 2018, 04:20:27 PM
Quote from: #bansultan on February 07, 2018, 04:13:56 PM

You complain a lot.

It's cute how closely you pay attention to my posting. Makes me feel special.

Also, there's a difference between complaining and disagreeing. Give em both a quick Google.
Title: Re: "The New Big East will never be the Old Big East, and that’s a good thing"
Post by: GGGG on February 07, 2018, 04:29:02 PM
Quote from: skianth16 on February 07, 2018, 04:20:27 PM
It's cute how closely you pay attention to my posting. Makes me feel special.

Also, there's a difference between complaining and disagreeing. Give em both a quick Google.


I'm fully aware of the difference.  I will stick by my original statement.
Title: Re: "The New Big East will never be the Old Big East, and that’s a good thing"
Post by: Windyplayer on February 07, 2018, 04:31:28 PM
Quote from: skianth16 on February 07, 2018, 04:10:46 PM
Personally, I'd probably rather watch a team like MSU or Purdue that score a ton of points while still playing good defense.
You, too? Weird, we have a lot in common. Do you like pizza?
Title: Re: "The New Big East will never be the Old Big East, and that’s a good thing"
Post by: cheese ball chaser on February 07, 2018, 04:42:08 PM
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 07, 2018, 03:05:37 PM
Ken Pomeroy had a great piece posted on the Athletic a couple days about the Big East as it compares to older versions of the league.

He compared the current version of the Big East (2014-2018) to previous eras of the league (1980-91; 92-05; and 06-13).  He concluded that this version has been better than the first two iterations of the league, and just behind the 06-13 conglomerate league.

It was a great read.

https://theathletic.com//231793/2018/02/06/kenpom-comparing-the-eras-in-big-east-basketball/?redirected=1 (https://theathletic.com//231793/2018/02/06/kenpom-comparing-the-eras-in-big-east-basketball/?redirected=1)

I've been thinking about getting an athletic subscription. Seems like they have a lot of great content.  Is it worth it? I mostly just follow NCAAB, NBA and MLB.
Title: Re: "The New Big East will never be the Old Big East, and that’s a good thing"
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 07, 2018, 08:46:29 PM
but but but ... the Big East died!


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