Sorry, Chili, you snooze, you lose.
They recut the "Pray" video to include Markus, Sam, and Andrew.
I'm here!
Announcers are having a tough time with Sam and Harry
Can this be our day? The bank is open for Sam and Sacar hits a 3...
Geez, guys, put the shirts on if you're right behind a bench!
Can someone provide the chat link
What a bs call
Nice sequence from Theo: rebound, forced turnover, running the floor dunk, rebound.
And monster block. And rebound and drawn foul.
Theo is having a good game early on. Lots o' boards and blocks, running the floor well.
I'm cool with Elliott getting more run than Rowsey today.
Theo is playing great!!!
Quote from: Newsdreams on February 03, 2018, 01:37:37 PM
Can someone provide the chat link
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=chat
Chat is presently a barren wasteland.
The announcers seem to think experience matters.
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on February 03, 2018, 01:48:05 PM
Theo is having a good game early on. Lots o' boards and blocks, running the floor well.
In the big man carousel, it looks like Theo will be the go-to today. Ride the hot hand, I guess
Striping looks so-so on TV. How does it look at BC?
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on February 03, 2018, 01:55:37 PM
Striping looks so-so on TV. How does it look at BC?
The dark blue kills it, doesn't stand out enough and looks like we just skipped every third section.
Markus is a mess today
Hauser to the bench, everything falls apart.
Our problem on defense is that there is always a mismatch somewhere. Teams do not score a lot on us off of assists. They get the mismatch and go 1 on 1.
Rowsey looks really bad
There is some scuttlebutt that some of the guys had the flu for the Butler game.
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on February 03, 2018, 01:48:05 PM
Theo is having a good game early on. Lots o' boards and blocks, running the floor well.
And yet wojo continues to give porridge and heldt more run.
.
Quote from: TSmith34 on February 03, 2018, 01:58:25 PM
Markus is a mess today
Put long athletic guys on the two guards and make them drive. They'll force things and turn it over. Have either of them ever drove and then backed out when nothing was there? Can't recall a time.
Quote from: NickelDimer on February 03, 2018, 01:59:21 PM
Rowsey looks really bad
Plenty of chances to kick out to an open shooter for both Rowsey and Howard and instead chuck up a shot over the help defender
When your best efforts are coming from freshman it's not good
Fricken weddings. Our ride to my brother in law's wedding will be here in 10 minutes. Figures he and his bride didn't check the MU schedule when planning the wedding since he's a Badger. The fact that we are in Key West and it's 75 rather than the snow and cold at home makes up for it a little
Quote from: esotericmindguy on February 03, 2018, 02:01:01 PM
Put long athletic guys on the two guards and make them drive. They'll force things and turn it over. Have either of them ever drove and then backed out when nothing was there? Can't recall a time.
And have the long athletic guys push and bump constantly. Wears our little guys out.
Need Sam and Theo back in there.
Elliott, Markus, Anim, Sam and Theo is looking like the lineup today.
Need more than 5 minutes of intensity boys
We have no studs.
Nothing from the starting guards, Sam on the bench with foul trouble. Easy dots to connect.
Theo for STOG
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 03, 2018, 02:06:08 PM
We have no studs.
That's a dumber statement than most of Mayfair's comments.
It'd be nice to get another foul called on Bullock and/or Diallo.
That Theo stare...
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on February 03, 2018, 01:51:24 PM
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=chat
Chat is presently a barren wasteland.
Thanks
Quote from: 1SE on February 03, 2018, 02:08:01 PM
Theo for STOG
Helluva first 16 minutes for sure. Loved the reply of him staring and nodding at whoever fouled him.
Sam and Theo got us back into the game.
Sam's shots looked really bad so far. But at least he's taking them.
(Thanks for making me look like an idiot, Sam.)
Clearly, the rest of the league has our number. Signed captain obvious.
The 52 point game was the worst thing that happened to this team.
Another missed ft?
Some of our guys the last two games look like they are wearing lead shoes.
Ugly finish to the half but how about Theo John eh? He is bringing the energy today!
Quote from: NickelDimer on February 03, 2018, 02:02:26 PM
When your best efforts are coming from freshman sophomores it's not good
FIFY. Sacar and Theo have been our best players so far.
Sacar's been good for last 3-4 games.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on February 03, 2018, 02:23:26 PM
FIFY. Sacar and Theo have been our best players so far.
Theo is a freshman
Showed good character by coming back. Need to take better care of the ball and not let Gergg get overmatched down low and we got this.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on February 03, 2018, 02:23:26 PM
FIFY. Sacar and Theo have been our best players so far.
Elliot's been really good too. And Theo's a freshman (assuming you knew that though)
I think Wojo sat Howard down and told him to start passing. Last 5 minutes were much better
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on February 03, 2018, 02:25:48 PM
Sacar's been good for last 3-4 games.
Agreed. Lots of energy, some nice passes, and a threat on the drive. He has been our most consistent player.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on February 03, 2018, 02:23:26 PM
FIFY. Sacar and Theo have been our best players so far.
Theo is a freshman.
Quote from: NickelDimer on February 03, 2018, 02:28:29 PM
Elliot's been really good too. And Theo's a freshman (assuming you knew that though)
Oops. Yeah, I bonked on Theo. Senior moment...
Doug G. Looking rough.
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on February 03, 2018, 02:31:50 PM
Theo is a freshman.
He doesn't look like your typical Freshman, is the new "he's only 17".
Quote from: forgetful on February 03, 2018, 02:32:57 PM
He doesn't look like your typical Freshman, is the new "he's only 17".
:D
I think there's an error with the BC scoreboard. It's says we're winning... But this thread makes it sound like we're down double digits
Let's hope today is the day we get a SOTG from outside the big 3. Because I think it's that or a loss.
That going in was important for Rowsey. Needed to see teh ball go through the hoop.
Quote from: drewm88 on February 03, 2018, 02:38:06 PM
Let's hope today is the day we get a SOTG from outside the big 3. Because I think it's that or a loss.
To this point, it would have to be Theo.
Theo makes you think of Maurice Lucas.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on February 03, 2018, 02:45:29 PM
To this point, it would have to be Theo.
Agree, but Sam trying to have something to say about it
Sam being assertive which is what this offense needs today
The guard play is atrocious
Uhhh nice harry
This has the looks of another game where we will dominate the eFG% and still lose.
#eFGnomatta
This is the quietest sellout crowd ever.
Where''s Cain?
Geez Markus. The bounce pass to Sam was terrible, the shot selection terrible. Ugh.
Good Lord has Howard been awful lately. On that layup Froling was WIDE OPEN then he throws up a 30 footer that barely draws iron. Meanwhile Hauser has been effective every time he's gotten the ball!!
Rowsey isn't scoring but he's basically been fine
Andrew with 4 because Sam and Harry are dumb.
Howard still chucking and forcing up crap. Would like to see him try to create for others for once, don't recall him doing that for multiple games now.
Sam throwing alley-oooooops in fast breaks to Harry....
Not too much for the crowd to cheer about.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 03, 2018, 02:56:37 PM
Good Lord has Howard been awful lately. On that layup Froling was WIDE OPEN then he throws up a 30 footer that barely draws iron. Meanwhile Hauser has been effective every time he's gotten the ball!!
Rowsey isn't scoring but he's basically been fine
If awful for a PG is 8 pts, 5 rebound, and 4 assists with 12 minutes left, then we are fortunate to have awful
Quote from: forgetful on February 03, 2018, 02:57:54 PM
If awful for a PG is 8 pts, 5 rebound, and 4 assists with 12 minutes left, then we are fortunate to have awful
Horrendous might be a better word. He's been terrible
Cain's has a rough day
Are big three are playing like horse crap and that's why we're looking like we are
Cain and Elliot need to eat like Theo.
Pretty pathetic offensively. Defense has been not great but good enough to win
I don't know how else to say it, we may even come back and win this game, but this is a bad team right now. I don't know what transpired in the last couple weeks internally, but there are so many dumb mistakes happening, it's concerning.
Rowseys fourth really hurt. He was starting to get in a rhythm
Quote from: MUeagle1090 on February 03, 2018, 03:02:23 PM
Pretty pathetic offensively. Defense has been not great but good enough to win
Teams know we win by the 3, and are little. Don't switch on drives, let your big deflect them at the hoop and defend the 3 pt line. Pretty easy to defend us.
Sam missing open looks.
Not understanding how that's not a foul on Anim's shot, then a foul against Cartwright on his drive?
This one is slip sliding away.
And Andrew.
Ooof...
Shots not falling. Not looking good
Well, these 9 minutes will determine a lot about our season. What you got Wojo
Anybody else think this game is over?
Quote from: 1SE on February 03, 2018, 03:09:24 PM
Well, these 9 minutes will determine a lot about our season. What you got Wojo
The problem isn't Wojo. Our guys have nothing left in the tank. Exhausted.
15 points in 12 minutes
Quote from: ATWizJr on February 03, 2018, 03:09:34 PM
Anybody else think this game is over?
Yep. Team out of sorts and crowd is dead
This lineup Wojo?! No reason for Theo not to be on the floor
Quote from: forgetful on February 03, 2018, 03:10:16 PM
The problem isn't Wojo. Our guys have nothing left in the tank. Exhausted.
I forgot. Nothing's on Wojo.
I'm running out of excuses for this coaching staff. I like the roster, like the vision, but this is just a poorly coached team right now. No way to spin it
Quote from: NickelDimer on February 03, 2018, 03:12:18 PM
This lineup Wojo?! No reason for Theo not to be on the floor
Scratch my head too. Only guy on the floor at looks like he wants to play. Keep him out there.
Why would we be any more tired than them?
There has been 3 or 4 of those types of plays, where they are fouls on us, but not on them. BS.
Announcers even commenting on it.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on February 03, 2018, 03:14:37 PM
Why would we be any more tired than them?
In a physical game (conference), the smaller team and they younger team is going to be substantially more affected. That is us on both accounts. The physicality of the season is getting to us.
I can't believe Wojo came out of the timeout with this same lineup. Wow
Boy Sacar misses a lot of lay uos
Horrible call against Sam.
Refs have been the least of our problems today
Dude just call the fowl after the ball hit the rim and was coming down
Quote from: forgetful on February 03, 2018, 03:16:58 PM
In a physical game (conference), the smaller team and they younger team is going to be substantially more affected. That is us on both accounts. The physicality of the season is getting to us.
Our guys slept in their own beds, while PC flew in and slept in hotel rooms. Not buying that we're more tired
ARE YOU KIDDING??????????????? THEY DIDN'T BLOW THE WHISTLE UNTIL WAYYYYY AFTER
That's a foul and Wojo is a moron for that lineup
This team is bad right now. Every phase. Defense has known limitations, but everyone has our number offensively, which means we're getting out coached too
Some odd officiating the last 5 minutes or so. That's the nicest I can be.
Well crap
Quote from: GB Warrior on February 03, 2018, 03:21:10 PM
This team is bad right now. Every phase. Defense has known limitations, but everyone has our number offensively, which means we're getting out coached too
It might mean that. It might mean there aren't many adjustments to be made. What would you do
Quote from: monkeyman34 on February 03, 2018, 03:19:51 PM
ARE YOU KIDDING??????????????? THEY DIDN'T BLOW THE WHISTLE UNTIL WAYYYYY AFTER
Right. They were actually not going to call that if he made it. Had to call it when he missed. It was a foul.
Quote from: #bansultan on February 03, 2018, 03:22:21 PM
Right. They were actually not going to call that if he made it. Had to call it when he missed. It was a foul.
It was a foul. But they haven't called that consistently on both ends of the floor.
It's on Wojo for recruiting an incomplete team. Not sure what you think they can do with it. It's the same thing every game.
Quote from: forgetful on February 03, 2018, 03:23:21 PM
It was a foul. But they haven't called that consistently on both ends of the floor.
Welcome to college basketball.
Keep shooting at Howard 3 /13
That lineup was inexcusably bad Wojo and that's why Rowseys out and Sam has 4. I can't believe that
Quote from: forgetful on February 03, 2018, 03:16:58 PM
In a physical game (conference), the smaller team and they younger team is going to be substantially more affected. That is us on both accounts. The physicality of the season is getting to us.
Excuses are like buttholes...
Quote from: #bansultan on February 03, 2018, 03:23:29 PM
It's on Wojo for recruiting an incomplete team. Not sure what you think they can do with it. It's the same thing every game.
Agreed. If you want to fault Wojo, fault his recruiting. Specifically in having a complete team. His coaching has been fine, we just have too many lineup flaws that are easy to exploit.
Quote from: #bansultan on February 03, 2018, 03:23:29 PM
It's on Wojo for recruiting an incomplete team. Not sure what you think they can do with it. It's the same thing every game.
Providence clearly came in w a game plan for Markus. They learned from the last game, put in a plan, and are executing it. That's solid coaching. We do the same damn thing (on both ends) every f*cking game. I don't know exactly what I'd do, but I'm also not getting paid in excess of a million dollars to figure that out.
And why the F was Theo on the bench for 10 minutes this half? That's coaching.
Quote from: 1SE on February 03, 2018, 03:27:17 PM
Providence clearly came in w a game plan for Markus. They learned from the last game, put in a plan, and are executing it. That's solid coaching. We do the same damn thing (on both ends) every f*cking game. I don't know exactly what I'd do, but I'm also not getting paid in excess of a million dollars to figure that out.
Lol. "I don't know what they should do. They should just do something."
Quote from: #bansultan on February 03, 2018, 03:29:17 PM
Lol. "I don't know what they should do. They should just do something."
Keep Theo on the floor. Pay me a million bucks.
That was a clear foul. Should have been on Jackson who ran him over.
I thought it was a no-call live, but how does Dougie still think that when he's seen multiple replays of Bullock sticking his knee out?
Quote from: #bansultan on February 03, 2018, 03:29:17 PM
Lol. "I don't know what they should do. They should just do something."
Also, lol at Wojo's salary for accomplishing, what, I'm his tenure? Jokes on us.
Quote from: skianth16 on February 03, 2018, 03:32:22 PM
Also, lol at Wojo's salary for accomplishing, what, I'm his tenure? Jokes on us.
Man the stupidity of this fan base is amazing.
39%, hits both. Maybe that is what we needed.
Quote from: #bansultan on February 03, 2018, 03:33:13 PM
Man the stupidity of this fan base is amazing.
Call me crazy, but I'd prefer winning.
Quote from: forgetful on February 03, 2018, 03:34:41 PM
39%, hits both. Maybe that is what we needed.
Undisputed STOG if we pull this out
Man have the freshman shown their elders up today. Says as much about their elders as it does them
Howard has 9 boards...as many as the rest of the starting lineup. This is a problem
Terrible call.
Another terrible play from Markus that Theo saved
Quote from: TSmith34 on February 03, 2018, 03:38:08 PM
Another terrible play from Markus that Theo saved
As much on the rest of the team as it is on Howard if he didn't know someone was coming behind him.
Quote from: NickelDimer on February 03, 2018, 03:36:30 PM
Man have the freshman shown their elders up today. Says as much about their elders as it does them
What elders?
Quote from: forgetful on February 03, 2018, 03:37:17 PM
Terrible call.
Waiting for the replay but it looked like outstanding defense
Jeezuz Markus
That was the play we drew up?! Uuuggghhh.
I'm a Markus defender bit WTF!?!
That was the play you drew up coming out of a timeout unbelievable
Quote from: Henry the 6th Kings on February 03, 2018, 03:40:10 PM
That was the play you drew up coming out of a timeout unbelievable
No. They stopped the initial play and then had to improvise
Quote from: drewm88 on February 03, 2018, 03:38:55 PM
As much on the rest of the team as it is on Howard if he didn't know someone was coming behind him.
why not? No awareness?
Nice work Wojo
Let's sum that up, 20 seconds off the clock which ended with a forced 3 against a double team.
Another Markus one on five. Give it to the guy who is 3 for 14 today. That's on Wojo.
Quote from: Henry the 6th Kings on February 03, 2018, 03:40:10 PM
That was the play you drew up coming out of a timeout unbelievable
No it wasn't. Sacar clearly didn't know what he was supposed to do, it got broken in the beginning.
My guess is that Howard then knew with the double that Theo was in position. Put it up to the rim, hope he finishes. Really ugly, but Sacar needs to know what he was supposed to do...once something went wrong. It got worse and worse.
Quote from: MUeagle1090 on February 03, 2018, 03:40:58 PM
No. They stopped the initial play and then had to improvise
Yeah that's on Howard for forcing it.
Quote from: ATWizJr on February 03, 2018, 03:41:06 PM
why not? No awareness?
Everyone on the bench and court should be alerting him. He should also be aware. Blame is shared.
Is Theo John allowed to block a FT attempt?
Oh Theo...
OMG first Sam doesn't do The Thing and then Theo takes a basket off the board!!!!!
No offense or defense substitution during all this come on wojo
Howard has 0 confidence right now
Fitting ending to Markus' day
After all of theo's greatness, that play at that time. Shoot
Last guy that should have had that ball at that point the way his day went
Take a fucking nap Howard
Still looking for solid evidence that Woj knows how to coach
Season ova
Our eFG%=53%
Theirs=47%
Quote from: NickelDimer on February 03, 2018, 03:51:53 PM
Still looking for solid evidence that Woj knows how to coach
Don't hold your breath
These past four games were a test............Wojo and staff flat out failed. Disappointing in every way
Quote from: NickelDimer on February 03, 2018, 03:51:53 PM
Still looking for solid evidence that Woj knows how to coach
Listen to all the Wojo excuse makers here, they offer plenty of evidence, including the classic "we will be really good next year", and that all time popular cliche "there is nobody out there that could do better right now."
Willie
They were saying wait until next year, last year. I always love the proposed starting five threads for next year. Every time it sounds like we are becoming Kansas or Duke.
Quote from: Goose on February 03, 2018, 04:50:18 PM
They were saying wait until next year, last year.
Find one post that said that last year. Just one.
Quote from: Goose on February 03, 2018, 04:50:18 PM
Willie
They were saying wait until next year, last year. I always love the proposed starting five threads for next year. Every time it sounds like we are becoming Kansas or Duke.
This, I gotta disagree with. Though wait 'til next year type comments are relatively common here, I don't remember them much last year. I don't think most expected that a team losing JJJ, Reinhardt and Fischer and replacing them with under the radar recruits was going to be better. Plus we lost Duane Wilson (who we really need) and Cheatham (who we miss not so much).
CTWarrior
I debated a number of the younger folks on how much JJJ and Luke would be missed. I was laughed at for my comments. Trust me, there were folks on here that still believe in the tooth fairy and felt this would be an up year.
Quote from: Goose on February 03, 2018, 05:00:19 PM
CTWarrior
I debated a number of the younger folks on how much JJJ and Luke would be missed. I was laughed at for my comments. Trust me, there were folks on here that still believe in the tooth fairy and felt this would be an up year.
Hold on.
You thought they were going to miss JJJ and Luke? And that people who thought they were going to be better this year also believe in the tooth fairy?
Yet you are complaining that they aren't better this year? ?-( ?-( ?-( ?-( ?-( ?-( ?-( ?-(
Quote from: Goose on February 03, 2018, 05:00:19 PM
CTWarrior
I debated a number of the younger folks on how much JJJ and Luke would be missed. I was laughed at for my comments. Trust me, there were folks on here that still believe in the tooth fairy and felt this would be an up year.
I think we have some good pieces for next year. The three freshmen look promising along with Sam, Markus and Morrow. The missing piece is a point guard. If Wojo does not land one we will be struggling again.
Sultan,
I told several on here in PM under 500 this year. At least thought they would competitive at home. My expectations were low and they have not been met to this point. I would be happy if we could say they are a well coached team. IMO, that would be a lie.
Quote from: 79Warrior on February 03, 2018, 05:05:09 PM
I think we have some good pieces for next year. The three freshmen look promising along with Sam, Markus and Morrow. The missing piece is a point guard. If Wojo does not land one we will be struggling again.
I agree that next year's team is in near desperate need of a point guard.
I probably let some of the early wins (including UW) give me false hope that they could finish over .500 In league and make the tournament. The fact is that they are young, small and terrible defenders.
Howard is the PG next year. Bringing in a Frosh would be a disaster and another lost season. With Morrow and Joey Hauser, they will be able to defend and still score baskets. A few extra games in a post season tournament will help for 2018-19.
Quote from: Warrior of Law on February 03, 2018, 05:19:43 PM
I probably let some of the early wins (including UW) give me false hope that they could finish over .500 In league and make the tournament. The fact is that they are young, small and terrible defenders.
Howard is the PG next year. Bringing in a Frosh would be a disaster and another lost season. With Morrow and Joey Hauser, they will be able to defend and still score baskets. A few extra games in a post season tournament will help for 2018-19.
Yes...the top mantra here is....we will be better next year...folowed by....we will be realy good next year....followed by that always safe ass coverer....we will be really good in two years.
Quote from: willie warrior on February 03, 2018, 06:33:36 PM
Yes...the top mantra here is....we will be better next year...folowed by....we will be realy good next year....followed by that always safe ass coverer....we will be really good in two years.
I don't remember anyone saying last year that we would be better this year. I certainly wasn't.
We will be better next season. And the season after that.
Next year is a long way off and anything can happen and probably will