MU was livin in Dreamtime tonight.
1. Rowsey's turn tonight. Markus a little off. I think we can all stay away from the panic button. He finished OK.
2. MU was tougher than SH for 16 minutes. Then played soft for 7 minutes. And then rebounded (pardon the pun)
3. Other than that bad stretch, the defense was solid and down right good at times.
4. Those freshmen are done being afraid. Sure, there are going to be nights where nothing goes. But they will attack.
5. I don't know what is happening in practice. In games, Froling is off balance shooting the 3.
6. But all of the bigs played hard and played physical.
7. But SH is relentless. They are top 15 for a reason. So big, so strong.
8. I liked Anim pissing off Dezi. Everybody played with passion. Everybody contributed.
9. You could see SH's will break with Howard and Hauser's 3's with 5 to go.
10. That 'compete, compete, compete' huddle carried over to tonight.
11. Rebounding?!?!?!? Holy cow. Really accepted the challenge to team rebound tonight. Whole team.
12. Is this a big enough win? Do you not see hope? Can you not see how it is building? It isn't that MU won, it is HOW MU won.
13. Celebrate a good win, MU fans.
14. Because it isn't going to get easier for a while and there will be losses.
Obviously Rowsey was fantastic but I thought Elliott, Heldt, and John were all outstanding.
Harry is struggling but if he can get his footing that can add another weapon.
If we can learn to consistently rebound and defend like that (granted there were lapses) we will be really tough.
Just an easy team to like and root for.
They could have folded against Villanova, but fought the whole way, and it seemed like that carried over to today. Props to the coaches for their role in that.
Even without our shooting, we would have won that game.
GE looks very comfortable for a freshman in a BE game.
Froling is still rough but getting better.
What a win! What a team! What a future!
In the late 80s, you could judge how the Bulls did by Jordan's stat line. If Jordan scored a ton, that means the game was close. If he did not, that means the rest of the team played well, or they were getting annihilated. The problem was when Jordan went off the rest of the team would stand around watching him.
Insert Howard and MU and I see the same thing. Howard gets 52 but we need OT to win. Howard gets 37 and we lose. Everyone is standing around watching Howard. Howard gets 12 and everyone else plays basketball and we run the Hall out of the gym.
You agree?
That was an ass kicking, I haven't seen an MU team do that to a good team like SH in a while.
Long way to go, but man, MU would be a bi*ch to play in the NCAA's, I hope we all get to see it come March.
Quote from: Yukon Cornelius on January 09, 2018, 10:08:05 PM
In the late 80s, you could judge how the Bulls did by Jordan's stat line. If Jordan scored a ton, that means the game was close. If he did not, that means the rest of the team played well, or they were getting annihilated. The problem was when Jordan went off the rest of the team would stand around watching him.
Insert Howard and MU and I see the same thing. Howard gets 52 but we need OT to win. Howard gets 37 and we lose. Everyone is standing around watching Howard. Howard gets 12 and everyone else plays basketball and we run the Hall out of the gym.
You agree?
No. You have the causality wrong. Howard went off BECAUSE everybody else was standing around. Everybody else wasn't standing around to watch Howard.
Wojo coached this one beautifully. Emphasized to his team that they needed to rebound to win, got a ton out of his bigs, the press really threw Hall off, didn't rush to get Howard in because he had been sitting and only had four points when he had five guys going on a tear together and a tight defense.
Quote from: tower912 on January 09, 2018, 10:10:35 PM
No. You have the causality wrong. Howard went off BECAUSE everybody else was standing around. Everybody else wasn't standing around to watch Howard.
Fair enough ... the larger point is Howard scoring more than 35 typically means we are not playing well. Howard scoring less than 15 means a good night by everyone else, or we are getting destroyed.
MU stopped double teaming Delgado most of the time in second half because he was passing off for layups, many of them. Heldt/Theo played him straight up and did outstanding..... Did not see that coming.
Elliott has had a fantastic BE play run, he is so long and quick on defense.
Froling has a ways to go. Missed two open threes and was 0 for 5 with two turnovers. Any type of production from him will be just an immense help to the team. Woo giving him minutes, so a turn around should be coming.
Good to get a home win.
Quote from: tower912 on January 09, 2018, 10:10:35 PM
No. You have the causality wrong. Howard went off BECAUSE everybody else was standing around. Everybody else wasn't standing around to watch Howard.
There has to be at least a couple percent chance the reason we lost when Howard scored 37 was due to the fact they were playing the current number 1 team in the nation.
If anyone had offered me a bet on SHU not out-rebounding MU, where if I lost I would have to kiss the ass of whoever took the bet on Main Street at noon, I would have taken it.
Our frosh are becoming almost sophs.
There were periods tonight (end of first half excepted) wher we actually played DDDDD.
After Froling missed his second 3 and it went to break you could see Howard yelling at him to "keep [freaking] shooting!" He can obviously make them. He will.
Quote from: Yukon Cornelius on January 09, 2018, 10:08:05 PM
In the late 80s, you could judge how the Bulls did by Jordan's stat line. If Jordan scored a ton, that means the game was close. If he did not, that means the rest of the team played well, or they were getting annihilated. The problem was when Jordan went off the rest of the team would stand around watching him.
Insert Howard and MU and I see the same thing. Howard gets 52 but we need OT to win. Howard gets 37 and we lose. Everyone is standing around watching Howard. Howard gets 12 and everyone else plays basketball and we run the Hall out of the gym.
You agree?
No.
When we have a game in the future where we get no calls and no loose balls and every shot the other team throws up goes in...someone please remind me of this game. It won?t help my mood at that point but it?s worth a shot.
Everything went MU?s way tonight.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 09, 2018, 10:21:56 PM
After Froling missed is second 3 and it went to break you could see Howard yelling at him to "keep [freaking] shooting!" He can obviously make them. He will.
This! love the team chemistry. when a guy is struggling like Froling is he needs people to help lift him up. Love what Howard is about.
One of the most complete performances I've seen from Marquette in quite some time. Props to the coaches and the players for getting out there and absolutely dominating Seton Hall. On to Butler!
BTW, can anyone tell me why every time I type an apostrophe tonight, it turns into a question mark when I hit post?
Quote from: MUEng92 on January 09, 2018, 10:25:27 PM
BTW, can anyone tell me why every time I type an apostrophe tonight, it turns into a question mark when I hit post?
Had the same problem when I was posting from my phone.
Also, the commentators were good and interesting to listen to tonight and the refs were good, and even favored Marquette in my opinion! When they let teams play it's much more enjoyable to watch the game.
Maybe Wojo's best coaching game. Freshmen Wall? Not foe the Motor City Duo. Heldt was great...
Quote from: MUEng92 on January 09, 2018, 10:16:46 PM
There has to be at least a couple percent chance the reason we lost when Howard scored 37 was due to the fact they were playing the current number 1 team in the nation.
And on the road to boot.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 09, 2018, 10:26:29 PM
Had the same problem when I was posting from my phone.
Also, the commentators were good and interesting to listen to tonight and the refs were good, and even favored Marquette in my opinion! When they let teams play it's much more enjoyable to watch the game.
Love it when they let teams play hard without a whistle every 20 seconds.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 09, 2018, 10:26:29 PM
Had the same problem when I was posting from my phone.
Seems to be with the new server. Though posting from my Android to test. I'm guessing it's an iPhone thing?
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 09, 2018, 10:32:47 PM
Seems to be with the new server. Though posting from my Android to test. I'm guessing it's an iPhone thing?
Yes mine was from an iPhone.
Loved it when Elliot DJO'd the miss.
Kid has some athletic ability.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 09, 2018, 10:26:29 PM
Had the same problem when I was posting from my phone.
Also, the commentators were good and interesting to listen to tonight and the refs were good, and even favored Marquette in my opinion! When they let teams play it's much more enjoyable to watch the game.
Agree on that, it was such a fun game to watch. Slightly homer but regardless, had good flow and the referees took a backseat to the players. Haven't seen that much thus far.
IDK if watching on CBS Sports made the difference, but, felt very different observing the game overall.
Heise...any good lip reading in the Hall huddles? Any Johnson's left on the court?
Quote from: wadesworld on January 09, 2018, 10:21:56 PM
After Froling missed his second 3 and it went to break you could see Howard yelling at him to "keep [freaking] shooting!" He can obviously make them. He will.
I noticed this too and loved it. We've gotten reports from practice that Harry can hit the three. It's only a matter of time. He's only played a few games and is trying to get up to game speed against BE players not cupcakes. When (not if) his shot starts falling it will open up driving lanes even more. Between that and the frosh improving things look bright ahead!
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 09, 2018, 10:34:43 PM
Heise...any good lip reading in the Hall huddles? Any Johnson's left on the court?
did not go, watched it at home
Quote from: Yukon Cornelius on January 09, 2018, 10:38:26 PM
did not go, watched it at home
Thought I saw you in the too tight #3. Great game
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 09, 2018, 10:29:53 PM
Maybe Wojo's best coaching game. Freshmen Wall? Not foe the Motor City Duo. Heldt was great...
wojo only coaches the easy top 15 wins
That was refreshing. I can't remember the last time we handed out this big of an arse whooping to a top 15 team. Miami in the Sweet 16? That was closer but felt about as dominant. A signature win for Wojo so far.
I like the pressure that Wojo keeps mixing into the defense. I also liked that he alternated double teaming and single covering Delgado. Seemed like the strategy was quantity of defenses instead of quality. Throw different looks out there and keep Seton Hall confused.
Loved the thing with Jalen Hurts. Can see that everyone on the team really buys into that concept.
Elliott was a stud tonight, outcompeted everybody for everything. Now that his shot is coming along, he could be something special.
I think Harry played a good game tonight minus his shooting. One of these nights I think the switch is going to flip for him and he finally starts making those shots. They are open and in rhythm but he can't buy a bucket right now. That one turnover that led to a run out dunk was brutal.
Heldt was a beast on Delgado. Held him to 5/12 and only one offensive board...and I don't think he was in that possession. But son, you gotta dunk that bunny. 4/5 is pretty good though.
I loved Theo's toughness. Destroyed a layup, threw their 7 footer to the ground, and soaked some poor sod's suit with gatorade going for a loose ball that he didn't have a prayer of getting.
Sammy is the savviest player we have had in awhile, another all around great game.
When did Andrew and Markus learn to play D? They had help but Carrington, Rodriguez, and Powell all had bad shooting nights. They were a part of that.
Senior Ish Sanogo came into the game with 1 career 3PM...he left tonights game with 3. When Sanogo is your leading scorer on the night...you know something is wrong.
It obviously wasn't the difference in the game, but I thought we benefitted from a little home cooking by the refs. It felt nice.
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on January 09, 2018, 10:36:10 PM
I noticed this too and loved it. We've gotten reports from practice that Harry can hit the three. It's only a matter of time. He's only played a few games and is trying to get up to game speed against BE players not cupcakes. When (not if) his shot starts falling it will open up driving lanes even more. Between that and the frosh improving things look bright ahead!
I agree and like the approach Wojo is taking (and the support from the team). Give him limited minutes, but a green light (he nearly always attempts a shot when he gets the ball in his hands on offense). I just don't think he's in for extended minutes just yet because his decision-making and awareness (both offensively and defensively) aren't quite there even though we have seen him appearing quite confident.
Let him take his licks; if he is willing to learn from his mistakes then we will see him evolve into a solid contributor. He could be a game changer in the future due to his unique skillset.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 09, 2018, 10:47:07 PM
That was refreshing. I can't remember the last time we handed out this big of an arse whooping to a top 15 team. Miami in the Sweet 16? That was closer but felt about as dominant. A signature win for Wojo so far.
I like the pressure that Wojo keeps mixing into the defense. I also liked that he alternated double teaming and single covering Delgado. Seemed like the strategy was quantity of defenses instead of quality. Throw different looks out there and keep Seton Hall confused.
Loved the thing with Jalen Hurts. Can see that everyone on the team really buys into that concept.
Elliott was a stud tonight, outcompeted everybody for everything. Now that his shot is coming along, he could be something special.
I think Harry played a good game tonight minus his shooting. One of these nights I think the switch is going to flip for him and he finally starts making those shots. They are open and in rhythm but he can't buy a bucket right now. That one turnover that led to a run out dunk was brutal.
Heldt was a beast on Delgado. Held him to 5/12 and only one offensive board...and I don't think he was in that possession. But son, you gotta dunk that bunny. 4/5 is pretty good though.
I loved Theo's toughness. Destroyed a layup, threw their 7 footer to the ground, and soaked some poor sod's suit with gatorade going for a loose ball that he didn't have a prayer of getting.
Sammy is the savviest player we have had in awhile, another all around great game.
When did Andrew and Markus learn to play D? They had help but Carrington, Rodriguez, and Powell all had bad shooting nights. They were a part of that.
Senior Ish Sanogo came into the game with 1 career 3PM...he left tonights game with 3. When Sanogo is your leading scorer on the night...you know something is wrong.
It obviously wasn't the difference in the game, but I thought we benefitted from a little home cooking by the refs. It felt nice.
Ding..ding. Great recap
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 09, 2018, 10:47:07 PM
That was refreshing. I can't remember the last time we handed out this big of an arse whooping to a top 15 team. Miami in the Sweet 16? That was closer but felt about as dominant. A signature win for Wojo so far.
I like the pressure that Wojo keeps mixing into the defense. I also liked that he alternated double teaming and single covering Delgado. Seemed like the strategy was quantity of defenses instead of quality. Throw different looks out there and keep Seton Hall confused.
Loved the thing with Jalen Hurts. Can see that everyone on the team really buys into that concept.
Elliott was a stud tonight, outcompeted everybody for everything. Now that his shot is coming along, he could be something special.
I think Harry played a good game tonight minus his shooting. One of these nights I think the switch is going to flip for him and he finally starts making those shots. They are open and in rhythm but he can't buy a bucket right now. That one turnover that led to a run out dunk was brutal.
Heldt was a beast on Delgado. Held him to 5/12 and only one offensive board...and I don't think he was in that possession. But son, you gotta dunk that bunny. 4/5 is pretty good though.
I loved Theo's toughness. Destroyed a layup, threw their 7 footer to the ground, and soaked some poor sod's suit with gatorade going for a loose ball that he didn't have a prayer of getting.
Sammy is the savviest player we have had in awhile, another all around great game.
When did Andrew and Markus learn to play D? They had help but Carrington, Rodriguez, and Powell all had bad shooting nights. They were a part of that.
Senior Ish Sanogo came into the game with 1 career 3PM...he left tonights game with 3. When Sanogo is your leading scorer on the night...you know something is wrong.
It obviously wasn't the difference in the game, but I thought we benefitted from a little home cooking by the refs. It felt nice.
Miami was a wire to wire beating.
But the rest is spot on
Okay, I love GE's play and am not sorry to say I don't miss Cheat. Guy is finishing follow up dunks, plays above the rim, and drives hard to draw fouls. The announcer made a good point that perhaps other teams guards may get more tired having to chase the Smurfs because of the shooting prowess . I never would have thought we would have out rebounded the Hall and crushed them like this tonight! Sammy is just clutch and a coach's kid. Wait until his brother makes here.
Good win tonight. So. . Don't fire Wojo?
What an entertaining game. This was the toughest I've seen us play in years - and it was such a great feeling. This team is incredibly fun to watch, and the growth of John, Elliot, and Cain is really special. Howard and Rousey are two very special players. Heldt had one of his best games ever tonight. Froling will get into a rhythm this year and become a solid contributor. Hauser is so clutch and the ultimate glue guy of our team. I don't want to even think about next year because this year's team can be really good and make some serious noise.
Great job by Wojo and staff having this team prepared and able to execute. Bring on Butler!
First of all, Greg freaking Elliott. I absolutely love watching that kid play basketball. His defense is tenacious. His length is disruptive. And when he throws down...okay, I guess it wasn't that embarrassing because there was no one else in the room, but I shouted when he threw down that massive putback and fell back in my chair. Ended up completely on the floor. Took a pic while still laying on my back and posted it on Twitter. Oh well...that recliner sucks anyway.
That game was complete. It felt dominant. Every time Hall made a run, we answered. Before the half, they looked ready to take all the momentum, then we got a basket and pushed the lead back to 8. They came out and made it a 1-point game, then they didn't score another point until we were up 17. The defense keyed the offense, and when we needed stops, we got them.
The work on Delgado was excellent. Yes, he had a double-double, but it was a fairly innocuous double-double and he had 4 turnovers to go along with it. Heldt went for 9/7. Theo added 6/2 and defended without fouling. Froling was in the game.
Tonight felt like watching the future. It was a defense that had the ability to swarm. That disrupted with length. That could force turnovers. On offense, we drove, we attacked the boards, we hit outside shots, and every time they tried to come back, every time, we answered.
What a freaking win. I feel a bit sorry for Seton Hall, because it didn't matter who was coming out of the opposing locker room tonight. Seton Hall. Villanova. Xavier. Duke. Michigan State. The Monstars. That effort would've beat anyone. It's great to know we can play like that, it's great to know these young guys have that in them, and it's really exciting to think of what the next 2.5 years will bring.
If you would have told me beforehand that we'd outrebound them and commit only 6 turnovers, I'd have said: "Yeah, right ... but if that happens, we'll win by 20!"
I love me those two Detroit kids. That is exactly what we were missing - some taller wing defenders who also can slash on offense. Sky's the limit. Get some meat on dem bones!
I like the way Markus and AR kind of trade off - one has a meh game, the other goes off ... and vice versa.
The Nova win was bigger and more unexpected - program desperately needed it. But this was a hell of a game against a very good team, a real "building block" kind of performance.
I really did think that was one of the better officiated college games I have seen in awhile. They called the stuff that mattered but they didn't blow their whistles every 5 seconds. I know it's easier to think that after a 20-point win, but I thought it as the game was going on, too.
This just in: Sam is a good effen basketball player. He would contribute a ton to any team in the country, and he'll make good money playing this game in the not-too-distant future. (And no, that doesn't mean he's transferring to Louisville.) I'll say this for the bazillionth time: If Joey really is the "better Hauser," we are going to the Final Four.
Our three-headed center was productive again. Wojo seems to have a very good feel whom to use when - and even when to use none of them and go with Sam at the 5.
Speaking of Wojo, he coached a hell of a game. Great game plan, team obviously motivated and prepared, young players are improving. I remain steadfastly bullish on our coach.
Was that guy at the end of the Hall bench THE Philip Flory?
I can't wait for Friday. First time going to Hinkle to watch a game. I got to play some pick-up ball there 20 years ago - and that was cool. No ... Coach Dale didn't run the picket fence for me!
Quote from: wadesworld on January 09, 2018, 10:26:29 PM
Had the same problem when I was posting from my phone.
Also, the commentators were good and interesting to listen to tonight and the refs were good, and even favored Marquette in my opinion! When they let teams play it's much more enjoyable to watch the game.
Amen to that. Let them mix it up and play physical, without tick tack fouls. But control it. That is BEAST bb.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=400988568
Box score. BTW, for one night, against a big team, there was a fair number of two-big lineups.
Also, the thread title comes from Darryl Hall's first solo album. The grossly underrated Three Hearts and the Happy Ending Machine with the epic single 'Dreamtime'.
Quote from: Yukon Cornelius on January 09, 2018, 10:08:05 PM
In the late 80s, you could judge how the Bulls did by Jordan's stat line. If Jordan scored a ton, that means the game was close. If he did not, that means the rest of the team played well, or they were getting annihilated. The problem was when Jordan went off the rest of the team would stand around watching him.
Insert Howard and MU and I see the same thing. Howard gets 52 but we need OT to win. Howard gets 37 and we lose. Everyone is standing around watching Howard. Howard gets 12 and everyone else plays basketball and we run the Hall out of the gym.
You agree?
I sorta do agree, though not exactly. We are at our best when we are sharing the ball and moving it around and Howard or Rowsey or Hauser end up with the ball against a scrambling defense. When Rowsey or Howard start dribbling for entire possessions we are less effective. But, OTOH, when Howard is in a groove like against Providence, ride him.
Quote from: Yukon Cornelius on January 09, 2018, 10:08:05 PM
In the late 80s, you could judge how the Bulls did by Jordan's stat line. If Jordan scored a ton, that means the game was close. If he did not, that means the rest of the team played well, or they were getting annihilated. The problem was when Jordan went off the rest of the team would stand around watching him.
Insert Howard and MU and I see the same thing. Howard gets 52 but we need OT to win. Howard gets 37 and we lose. Everyone is standing around watching Howard. Howard gets 12 and everyone else plays basketball and we run the Hall out of the gym.
You agree?
This is a very different team than what you describe - it is not sink or swim based on MH. Basically its a team that can put up 80/night in a variety of different ways...three guys who can do 30+...or multiple guys can get 10-15. Big question for this team is how much do we give up as opposed to who had the hot hand.
Great recap everyone.
My one thought is that SHU got tired in the middle of the halves just because MU is so relentless on offense. Drive, kick, shoot, drive again, kick, shoot... The three guard line-up isn't something we havn't seen often, but Wojo used it a fair amount. Great way to make a bigger team adjust to a smaller, quicker one.
Glad they stopped doubling Delgado. Our guys did just fine straight up against him.
SHU reminds me of Buzz-era MU teams. Just so physical and strong.
Conspicuous by his absence..... Mayfair. You are what we thought you were.
Quote from: MU82 on January 09, 2018, 11:33:32 PM
Was that guy at the end of the Hall bench THE Philip Flory?
Flory hit two late Free Throws there at the end of the game. And I have to say, kudos to Delgado as the camera picked him up cheering Flory as he hit those shots with the game completely out of reach.
We played great and I agree with all of it. BUT
what did SH do right that we have to watch out for. Most of that game we were well under 40% from 3. Tight Man D. Rare open looks. Rowsey drives and drive kicks early helped us but sometimes Howard and Rowsey got stuck under there. Also wonder if Markus wearied of chasing 13 back-n-forth on D...could have it contributed to lackluster O?
Don?t get me wrong, we won big and in facets I never would?ve thunk. Wojo gameplan surprising, superb. But SH had a gameplan too to play tight on our shooters. Things we?ll see more of. Nice to know we can beat it...we have a multi dimensional team.
Quote from: MUBigDance on January 10, 2018, 08:12:46 AM
We played great and I agree with all of it. BUT
what did SH do right that we have to watch out for. Most of that game we were well under 40% from 3. Tight Man D. Rare open looks. Rowsey drives and drive kicks early helped us but sometimes Howard and Rowsey got stuck under there. Also wonder if Markus wearied of chasing 13 back-n-forth on D...could have it contributed to lackluster O?
Don?t get me wrong, we won big and in facets I never would?ve thunk. Wojo gameplan surprising, superb. But SH had a gameplan too to play tight on our shooters. Things we?ll see more of. Nice to know we can beat it...we have a multi dimensional team.
I actually don't think their 3 point D was that good, a case where statistics are misleading. Hauser himself had at least 3 wide open looks (no one within 5 feet of him) that he missed and at least Howard, maybe Rowsey, had a wide open look each that they missed.
Greg Elliot is a difference maker for us. He is very unselfish and just looking to make the right play. The kid plays with very high intensity and really understands how to use his length. He is a true Big East style defender, which we have needed for a long time.
One other small happy ending in this game story was that Philip Flory got in for the last 3 minutes and made a couple free throws. Glad to see things are working at the Hall for the young man.
Massive win! 3-2 in the first 5 games is a huge win for us. This next stretch of 5 games is probably even tougher. Let's say we go 2-3 with wins over DePaul and splitting Butler over the next 5 - to reach 10 wins we'd need to go 5-3 over the remaining 8, which I think is definitely doable.
SH Thoughts:
-Gotta love Rowsey pull up threes. This team is so fun when him or Markus are going off. I can live with almost any shot they take when they get it going.
-Greg is so important to this team. Loved the defensive trap with him and Sacar up top. The disruption their length causes is incredible.
-There were at least two plays where we had the ball in the paint surrounded by defenders and had Greg open in the corner and failed to feed him the ball for 3 and instead forced a bad shot on the block. Would like to see those easy plays being made
-Limited SH to only 10 free throws. Thought the refs were a little biased towards us tonight but its about time after 3 poorly called games
Quote from: tower912 on January 10, 2018, 07:53:10 AM
Conspicuous by his absence..... Mayfair. You are what we thought you were.
Was at the game. Section 212. Split a season tix package.
Heldt played his best game at MU.
Froling stinks. He can't shoot and encouraging him to do so is ridiculous. Froling and Anim should not be allowed to shoot a 3.
If anything, the refs seemed to be pro-MU, so no whining about the refs the rest of the year.
Seton Hall will not be a top 25 team at the end of the season.
Quote from: mayfairskatingrink on January 10, 2018, 09:22:58 AM
Was at the game.
Heldt played his best game at MU.
I'm just going to pretend that this is the only thing you said in your post.
Congrats on your first non-whiny post!
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 09, 2018, 10:47:07 PM
Senior Ish Sanogo came into the game with 1 career 3PM...he left tonights game with 3. When Sanogo is your leading scorer on the night...you know something is wrong.
You could tell the team knew that Sanogo was not a good three point shooter as they really sagged on him when he had the ball behind the 3 point line. To Sanogo's credit, he took those shots and he made them.
Kind of one of those things. It was great gameplanning by Wojo to identify that and have whoever was guarding Sanogo not in his face. But just happened to backfire as Sanogo did what he's not used to doing.
Quote from: tower912 on January 10, 2018, 05:55:17 AM
Also, the thread title comes from Darryl Hall's first solo album. The grossly underrated Three Hearts and the Happy Ending Machine with the epic single 'Dreamtime'.
You are such a nerd.....
Quote from: tower912 on January 10, 2018, 05:55:17 AM
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=400988568
Box score. BTW, for one night, against a big team, there was a fair number of two-big lineups.
Also, the thread title comes from Darryl Hall's first solo album. The grossly underrated Three Hearts and the Happy Ending Machine with the epic single 'Dreamtime'.
Did the term "Happy Ending" have the same double entendre in 1986 that it does now?
Quote from: warriorchick on January 10, 2018, 09:41:39 AM
Did the term "Happy Ending" have the same double entendre in 1986 that it does now?
I honestly don't recall.
Haven't had a chance to read because of travel.
My top 3.
#3. All the big hugs Wojo was able to dish out.
#2. Rowsey's #thething that lifted us when we were down a bit.
#1. Winner hands down was Theo taking out twenty gallons and spraying all their fans.'This is OUR house and go drink from the gdamn bubbler!!'
Quote from: tower912 on January 09, 2018, 09:58:24 PM
MU was livin in Dreamtime tonight.
1. Rowsey's turn tonight. Markus a little off. I think we can all stay away from the panic button. He finished OK.
2. MU was tougher than SH for 16 minutes. Then played soft for 7 minutes. And then rebounded (pardon the pun)
3. Other than that bad stretch, the defense was solid and down right good at times.
4. Those freshmen are done being afraid. Sure, there are going to be nights where nothing goes. But they will attack.
5. I don't know what is happening in practice. In games, Froling is off balance shooting the 3.
6. But all of the bigs played hard and played physical.
7. But SH is relentless. They are top 15 for a reason. So big, so strong.
8. I liked Anim pissing off Dezi. Everybody played with passion. Everybody contributed.
9. You could see SH's will break with Howard and Hauser's 3's with 5 to go.
10. That 'compete, compete, compete' huddle carried over to tonight.
11. Rebounding?!?!?!? Holy cow. Really accepted the challenge to team rebound tonight. Whole team.
12. Is this a big enough win? Do you not see hope? Can you not see how it is building? It isn't that MU won, it is HOW MU won.
13. Celebrate a good win, MU fans.
14. Because it isn't going to get easier for a while and there will be losses.
15. Some home cooking. Delgado could have had an "and one" on that one play.
I know this has been hashed out but is #thething thething if he doesn?t make it? Or is it called something else if he makes it? I know if it?s a two whether he makes or not doesn?t qualify.
What he did was definitely ?a thing? that made me and Angel smile for different reasons
Quote from: MUBigDance on January 10, 2018, 10:06:39 AM
I know this has been hashed out but is #thething thething if he doesn?t make it? Or is it called something else if he makes it? I know if it?s a two whether he makes or not doesn?t qualify.
What he did was definitely ?a thing? that made me and Angel smile for different reasons
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 10, 2018, 09:58:03 AM
15. Some home cooking. Delgado could have had an "and one" on that one play.
Are you talking about the play in the second half that the announcer was harping on?
Because I agree with him, that absolutely was a foul on MU that should have been called, but it was way before he shot it, shouldn't have been an "and one".
Quote from: jsglow on January 10, 2018, 09:56:09 AM
Haven't had a chance to read because of travel.
My top 3.
#3. All the big hugs Wojo was able to dish out.
This was fun.
Wojo usually likes the 1-arm-over-the-recipient's-shoulder approach to his bear hugs, but Matt's had to be two-arms-around-the-waist for obvious reasons.
Quote from: warriorchick on January 10, 2018, 09:41:39 AM
Did the term "Happy Ending" have the same double entendre in 1986 that it does now?
Doubtful unless of course Friendly's restaurant was a living more on the edge than I thought.
it's been a couple years since i've been as jazzed about a win (to be fair, I was international for Villanova last year and had to watch it on a ticker...not exactly the same excitement). Hope this gives us some momentum in the gauntlet we're about to face. Stealing a win at Butler would be huge, who has to be exhausted after their own gauntlet of ranked teams.
Quote from: GB Warrior on January 10, 2018, 11:04:06 AM
it's been a couple years since i've been as jazzed about a win (to be fair, I was international for Villanova last year and had to watch it on a ticker...not exactly the same excitement). Hope this gives us some momentum in the gauntlet we're about to face. Stealing a win at Butler would be huge, who has to be exhausted after their own gauntlet of ranked teams.
I kind of feel the same way you do and I watched the Nova game. The Nova game was about a MU getting blazing hot after Nova lifted their foot off the gas.
This was about a younger, smaller, quicker team dictating the play almost from the outset. SHU counter-punched, but we punched right back. If Marquette is going to be a top 25 team again, this is how they are going to win games. Fun to watch.
Quote from: warriorchick on January 10, 2018, 09:41:39 AM
Did the term "Happy Ending" have the same double entendre in 1986 that it does now?
Bedda ax BeeJay. Married dudes heer ain?t got no clue watt you?re referencin?, hey?
Quote from: #bansultan on January 10, 2018, 11:09:48 AM
I kind of feel the same way you do and I watched the Nova game. The Nova game was about a MU getting blazing hot after Nova lifted their foot off the gas.
This was about a younger, smaller, quicker team dictating the play almost from the outset. SHU counter-punched, but we punched right back. If Marquette is going to be a top 25 team again, this is how they are going to win games. Fun to watch.
This is exactly right
Late to the party.
Was at the game and what a time!
And today I'm so hungover... but worth it!
Rowsey was a real spark in the first half.
Theo and Greg are a real treat as fresh. And Cain has played very solid too!
How about that full court pressure? Slowed SHU down. And that Rowsey steal in pressure. I like it!
I'm a big Wojo fan, have been since we hired him. And I will agree there have been times where I have been frustrated and confused and annoyed with the coaching. But this season has been solid and last night was GREAT coaching. Well done team!
(Ps can anyone fill me in on this Alabama Hug thing people are talking about with jalen hurts?)
Quote from: #bansultan on January 10, 2018, 07:38:37 AM
Great recap everyone.
My one thought is that SHU got tired in the middle of the halves just because MU is so relentless on offense.
Probably dehydrated too once Theo took out their water supply.
Thought we did a great job of trapping delgado but we were late to help side a few times
Does anyone have a replay date for last night's game? or a vid/gif of the Theo John vs. Gatorade??? I did catch #TheThing live on TV.... DelGado's reaction was awesome.
Thanks.
Thoughts without seeing the broadcast yet:
1) Unlike some games, this box score matches up with the game flow. We had an average night shooting (for us), but we beat Hall at their own game (rebounding, 2nd chance pts, blocks/defense).
2) Can't wait to watch the recording tonight for the Elliott putback and the Theo ice bucket challenge.
3) Loved the student section ticket package; saw Providence with the family, Gtown with an MU buddy, and Hall with my 6th grader and his friends. Hope they continue that plan in the new digs.
4) I'm normally one for obscure references, Tower, but the solo career of Daryll Hall? Woo boy. I could see if Markus put up another school scoring record maybe going with "Hall and GOATs" or something. As it is, I would have gone with "A Pirate's Strife for Me". But hey, it's your thread, man. You do you.
5) Time to bully the Bulldogs. Hopefully we don't put up a stinkle at Hinkle (Seriously though, Tower. You do you.)
Quote from: fjm on January 10, 2018, 11:48:07 AM
...
(Ps can anyone fill me in on this Alabama Hug thing people are talking about with jalen hurts?)
According to the announcer's, Wojo open yesterday's shoot around by displaying the photo of Hurts hugging Tagovailoa, commending Hurts' maturity in acknowledging that his role changed for the second half but that they won the national championship as a team. Supposedly Wojo used it to send a message that everyone has a role, that they need everyone playing for the team.
Sure did look like the players received that message pretty clearly. Markus certainly was as supportive as can be while on the bench in the second half, seeing that the guys on the court were the right guys for that moment.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 10, 2018, 11:19:18 AM
Bedda ax BeeJay. Married dudes heer ain?t got no clue watt you?re referencin?, hey?
I think Beej is more into Orgasmatron by Mot?rhead, hey?
Quote from: tower912 on January 10, 2018, 05:55:17 AM
Also, the thread title comes from Darryl Hall's first solo album. The grossly underrated Three Hearts and the Happy Ending Machine with the epic single 'Dreamtime'.
Personally, considering the end of holiday break for students and the margin of victory, I would've went with "Deck the Hall".