2 years ago when we played Nova at home I said if they were ever going to win a Natty it was that year. Could still shoot the heck out of the ball but didn't rely on it like they had in past years and had size to throw it into in the post.
Last year I said they were one of the best teams in the country but didn't have the size down low or the depth and thought they were going to get caught somewhere and they did.
I'll say it now. I think Nova wins the Natty this year. They are really, really good. Deep, athletic, big, can shoot, disciplined.
On paper they are easily the best team in the country with only MSU being able to make a claim
Oh and I know people love Bridges as an NBA prospect. If I could have one guy from this team on the Bucks it's Brunson. I know he's not particularly athletic but he's just so under control.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 06, 2018, 08:51:26 PM
Oh and I know people love Bridges as an NBA prospect. If I could have one guy from this team on the Bucks it's Brunson. I know he's not particularly athletic but he's just so under control.
Everything Brunson does just looks so smooth and so effortless. Wrong jersey, but the guy is fun to watch.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 06, 2018, 08:51:26 PM
Oh and I know people love Bridges as an NBA prospect. If I could have one guy from this team on the Bucks it's Brunson. I know he's not particularly athletic but he's just so under control.
Hauser did a nice job on Bridges.
Brunson is the boss
Men against boys tonight.
Quote from: Goose on January 06, 2018, 09:25:43 PM
Men against boys tonight.
agree, but to me the difference is our good players are frosh and soph theirs are not.
Quote from: Goose on January 06, 2018, 09:25:43 PM
Men against boys tonight.
The boys looked pretty good against those men though.
I think our boys can hang their head high. They never gave up.
Our guys played hard to the end and that is great. Does not change the fact that the team we played tonight is light years ahead of us at the moment.
Let's not forget, Wright had some sh1tty, sh1tty teams before he turned it around.
Quote from: hairy worthen on January 06, 2018, 09:36:03 PM
agree, but to me the difference is our good players are frosh and soph theirs are not.
Just so you know, Nova played 8 guys tonight.
4 juniors, 2 sophomores and 2 freshmen.
Quote from: Sultan of Kookiness on January 06, 2018, 09:51:11 PM
Just so you know, Nova played 8 guys tonight.
4 juniors, 2 sophomores and 2 freshmen.
Bridges and Brunson are good enough to come out this spring.
And even Nova gave up 90 points to the runts. :D Duke has given up an average of 90 the last 3 games. Maybe defenses around the country, sans Virginia, are lacking.
Jalen Brunson was the best player I saw live at the high school level in at least a decade, better than Jabari, Rose and AD. His junior and senior seasons at Stevenson we're some all timers matching the likes of Jon Scheyer and Quentin Richardson (who is still the best player I've ever seen live).
Obviously his pro career is still TBD, but he will go down as one of the best college/high school players of the decade.
Agreed that Nova should be the favorite for the title this year. Michigan State has been remarkably consistent as well, but this Nova team is better than the one that won the title in 2016.
While I could certainly see Brunson and Bridges going pro, just the idea that they could bring this entire team back next year is absolutely terrifying. Even if those two both leave, they still likely return DiVincenzo, Booth, Spellman, Paschall, and all those freshmen. They aren't going anywhere any time soon.
Quote from: Sultan of Kookiness on January 06, 2018, 09:51:11 PM
Just so you know, Nova played 8 guys tonight.
4 juniors, 2 sophomores and 2 freshmen.
I know. thats my point. but it's not who played it's who are the key players. Nova has 4 juniors that play a key role and are major contributors. Three of those are red shirt juniors. as you know the improvement from soph to jr is large, the jump from freshman to Jr is massive. mu has rowsey, who was ineffective and then a bunch of soph and freshmen.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 06, 2018, 11:52:28 PM
Jalen Brunson was the best player I saw live at the high school level in at least a decade, better than Jabari, Rose and AD. His junior and senior seasons at Stevenson we're some all timers matching the likes of Jon Scheyer and Quentin Richardson (who is still the best player I've ever seen live).
Obviously his pro career is still TBD, but he will go down as one of the best college/high school players of the decade.
Unnatural carnal knowledge Stevenson. I want to like Brunson, but I just can't.
Here's what I'll say. Nova proves you can build a powerhouse program at a medium sized Catholic BEast school. It truly wasn't that many years ago when they looked a lot like today's Marquette. I remember when we expected to beat them twice. Xavier is getting close to that. Wojo knows the job ahead of him. BEast basketball is simply incredible, built exactly like it is.
(When was the last time you hears some schmo say NBE? Ridiculous. Dave Gavitt smiles down.)
Maybe a little off topic. I thought Cain & Elliot would disappear in the Big East conference season as many freshmen do. So far both have stepped up their games. They should be very good two years from now, especially if they become physically strong like the Nova players. Boys become men.
Quote from: Goose on January 06, 2018, 09:45:47 PM
Our guys played hard to the end and that is great. Does not change the fact that the team we played tonight is light years ahead of us at the moment.
"Light years ahead" is a stretch. V is very, very good and may finish number one. But, we can be proud of this Warrior team who put up a helluva good fight until the end.
Is there a reason Spellman isn't being considered a possible "one" and done? Fair or not, I compare him to Justin Patton because they were both talented big men who redshirtted their first season. My eye test isn't perfect but I think Spellman is a having a better season than Patton did. Is it just Patton's length that makes him a lottery pick and makes Spellman a four year player? Patton is more athletic but I think Spellman is a better rebounder, rim protector, and shooter.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 07, 2018, 10:25:05 AM
Is there a reason Spellman isn't being considered a possible "one" and done? Fair or not, I compare him to Justin Patton because they were both talented big men who redshirtted their first season. My eye test isn't perfect but I think Spellman is a having a better season than Patton did. Is it just Patton's length that makes him a lottery pick and makes Spellman a four year player? Patton is more athletic but I think Spellman is a better rebounder, rim protector, and shooter.
Spellman reminds me of a guy that would've been a hot commodity a few years ago but I'm not sure about today. His shooting might find him a spot, but he doesn't look athletic enough to be a stretch 4 and not big enough to be a 5.
It certainly wouldn't shock me if he left early, even after this year, and he has enough skills that he can probably be a solid bench player, but when I think early entrant, lottery types, the difference in athleticism between him and a guy like Patton is something that jumps off the page.
Quote from: Goose on January 06, 2018, 09:45:47 PM
Our guys played hard to the end and that is great. Does not change the fact that the team we played tonight is light years ahead of us at the moment.
Light years??
Let's pump the breaks.
Heck I know some Nova fans who say just taking Brunson off that team and they are fringe top 25.
They are very good and experienced and definitely better then us by a good margin. But it ain't light years.
We will give them a run very soon.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 07, 2018, 06:56:13 AM
Agreed that Nova should be the favorite for the title this year. Michigan State has been remarkably consistent as well, but this Nova team is better than the one that won the title in 2016.
While I could certainly see Brunson and Bridges going pro, just the idea that they could bring this entire team back next year is absolutely terrifying. Even if those two both leave, they still likely return DiVincenzo, Booth, Spellman, Paschall, and all those freshmen. They aren't going anywhere any time soon.
Yep...and MSU is getting schooled at tOSU right now.