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Title: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on January 04, 2018, 08:31:05 AM
Howard, Rowsey, and Hauser ....

If two bring their "A game," we can win.

All three ... we will win.

Only 1 ... we cannot win.

You agree?
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: Galway Eagle on January 04, 2018, 08:33:23 AM
Depends what you mean by A game. If you mean Howard and Rowsey both score over 20pts, we can and have lost in those situations. If you mean they both hit 30 plus pts well that's a different story.

No I do not believe we will/can beat nova on the road.
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: GGGG on January 04, 2018, 08:34:23 AM
Quote from: Yukon Cornelius on January 04, 2018, 08:31:05 AM
Howard, Rowsey, and Hauser ....

If two bring their "A game," we can win.

All three ... we will win.

Only 1 ... we cannot win.

You agree?


Yes.  If our players play well, we can win.  Stunning analysis.
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: Its DJOver on January 04, 2018, 08:34:36 AM
Nova also would have to have an off night.  Nova missed 28 3's last year, many of which were wide open
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: KampusFoods on January 04, 2018, 08:42:31 AM
Just tell the Nova players about the $100 thread on here. They'll create accounts, post in it, and lose on purpose. Easy Peasy.
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: tower912 on January 04, 2018, 08:48:46 AM
Anything is possible.    However, I have not made plans for PG's $100, as I doubt he will have to pay out. 
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: hairy worthen on January 04, 2018, 08:50:26 AM
We better, I already have the $100 spent. BTW, I'm thinking we get $100 for every post made in that thread.
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: tower912 on January 04, 2018, 09:07:14 AM
Quote from: hairy worthen on January 04, 2018, 08:50:26 AM
We better, I already have the $100 spent. BTW, I'm thinking we get $100 for every post made in that thread.

I started the damn thing.   I should get the most. 
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: Windyplayer on January 04, 2018, 10:00:29 AM
Quote from: Yukon Cornelius on January 04, 2018, 08:31:05 AM
Howard, Rowsey, and Hauser ....

If two bring their "A game," we can win.

All three ... we will win.

Only 1 ... we cannot win.

You agree?
No reason we can't get Cain involved as well to be a major contributor. We will certainly need his length on the boards.
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: Jay Bee on January 04, 2018, 10:11:42 AM
52 from M2N, 35 from Rowsey and we'll be in good shape
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on January 04, 2018, 10:12:24 AM
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on January 04, 2018, 08:33:23 AM
Depends what you mean by A game. If you mean Howard and Rowsey both score over 20pts, we can and have lost in those situations. If you mean they both hit 30 plus pts well that's a different story.

No I do not believe we will/can beat nova on the road.

Of course we can win.  It's just extremely unlikely. 
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: 79Warrior on January 04, 2018, 10:32:09 AM
Quote from: Yukon Cornelius on January 04, 2018, 08:31:05 AM
Howard, Rowsey, and Hauser ....

If two bring their "A game," we can win.

All three ... we will win.

Only 1 ... we cannot win.

You agree?

Anything is possible but highly unlike we win there. Providence was without one of their top 2 players and we needed heroics from Marcus to pull out the W.
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: onepost on January 04, 2018, 10:44:50 AM
The subplot I'm watching is how Rowsey responds to Markus' explosion last night.
He's as competitive as they come and I think/hope he'll look at last night and we'll get a similar kind of performance from him in one of these huge conference games before it's all said and done.  Hell, he just put up 35 against Georgetown 4 days earlier.
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: Loose Cannon on January 04, 2018, 10:48:17 AM

  We always have a Puncher's chance.  And if our new Bigs show up a much better chance.

This team reminds me of "Up at 9"
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: brewcity77 on January 04, 2018, 10:52:14 AM
Is it possible? Sure. But playing a Villanova team with a week of rest and preparation, on the road where they've lost 3 times in five years (albeit 2 in that specific building), knowing they'll be focused after a loss, and the simple reality they are a better team, I don't see it.

That said, the optimistic hope for this week was always 1-1, so there's really nothing to complain about either way.
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: Goose on January 04, 2018, 10:53:22 AM
Very, very difficult. Definitely will be watching to see how may points the little guy(s) score.
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: DCHoopster on January 04, 2018, 10:53:33 AM
Quote from: 79Warrior on January 04, 2018, 10:32:09 AM
Anything is possible but highly unlike we win there. Providence was without one of their top 2 players and we needed heroics from Marcus to pull out the W.

Somehow watching MU, it seems on D it is like watching the Pack.  Same mistakes time and time again.  Still do not see why the center is running around 30 feet from
the basket, isn't the center suppose to protect the lane and hoop?  It is like they do not know what they are doing.  Harry for sure has no idea.  Matt plays it well, as
good as expected, but watch the beginning of that game, dunk or lay-up everytime.  Do not get it,  does Wojo?
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: rocket surgeon on January 04, 2018, 11:04:20 AM
                                     YES!!  if we score more points than them-WE WIN!!

                         not much room for errors and handle the city of brotherly love crowd
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: NCMUFan on January 04, 2018, 11:12:55 AM
Marquette needs to take Nova out of their comfort zone.  How to do that, that is the MU Coaches job.  Nova needs to be bothered by what Marquette puts on them.  Nova has to much talent and excellent coaching to let them play their game at home.
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 04, 2018, 11:13:25 AM
Its possible.  But as Heisey said, going to need monster nights from at least 2 of big 3.
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: LoudMouth on January 04, 2018, 11:25:54 AM
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 04, 2018, 11:13:25 AM
Its possible.  But as Heisey said, going to need monster nights from at least 2 of big 3.
I would think we need monster nights from 2 of big 3 and a great night out of the third
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: skianth16 on January 04, 2018, 11:33:46 AM
We beat a bubble team on the road, playing without their best guy, and it took a 50 point performance and OT to seal the deal. Playing against a healthy title contender is going to much harder.

If we can keep their 3P% down, like we did last year, and stay out of foul trouble, we can hang with them. If any of our big 3 are limited to less than 25 minutes, I think we're in trouble. I doubt there's a line out yet, but I'd imagine Vegas will be giving us 6 or 7 points.
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: jsglow on January 04, 2018, 11:36:10 AM
You know what boys?  It's all opportunity and upside.  Lace 'em up.
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 04, 2018, 11:37:38 AM
Quote from: skianth16 on January 04, 2018, 11:33:46 AM
We beat a bubble team on the road, playing without their best guy, and it took a 50 point performance and OT to seal the deal.

You're a negative dude.  =
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: frozena pizza on January 04, 2018, 11:52:47 AM
Sure we could.  But I don't think this sets up well for us.  I would have liked our chances much more if Nova hadn't lost to Butler.  They will be focused and motivated.  Our guys also need to refocus after an emotional win that got a lot of attention.  I'd guess Nova wins by 10-15.  But I'd love to see us take them to the wire at our place in 3 weeks (partly because I'll be there for my one game this year).
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: MUBigDance on January 04, 2018, 12:05:22 PM
IF the same game against Nova as Providence then NO.

But if everyone plays to their potential defensively and everyone is consistent offensively then YES.

A win might look like this:
Howard/Rowsey/Hauser - 60 (distributed kinda evenly..no one over 30 and no one under 15)
John/Heldt/Frohling - 15
Cain/Elliot/Anim - 20
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: skianth16 on January 04, 2018, 12:30:36 PM
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 04, 2018, 11:37:38 AM
You're a negative dude.  =

I prefer realistic.

Am I wrong?
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: muwarrior69 on January 04, 2018, 12:37:51 PM
Without a doubt. In fact the question should be: Can Nova beat MU? After all we have Superman on our team.
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: GooooMarquette on January 04, 2018, 12:40:39 PM
We got this.
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: GoldenDieners32 on January 04, 2018, 12:43:35 PM
If M2N scores another 52 probably a win
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: barfolomew on January 04, 2018, 12:51:11 PM
Doesn't matter what any of the players do.
The outcome, as usual, will be determined by the referees.
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 06, 2018, 09:51:27 AM
We absolutely can.

But if I had to guess, Nova would beat us in Philly 96 times out of 100.
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: We R Final Four on January 06, 2018, 09:59:31 AM
Quote from: barfolomew on January 04, 2018, 12:51:11 PM
Doesn't matter what any of the players do.
The outcome, as usual, will be determined by the referees.
That's silly.  We have been told several times by scoopers that the refs have never ever had a significant impact on any basketball game ever. 
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 06, 2018, 11:23:06 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 04, 2018, 10:11:42 AM
52 from M2N, 35 from Rowsey and we'll be in good shape



Still gotta limit  'Nova ta 86, doe, hey?
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: We R Final Four on January 06, 2018, 11:49:09 AM
Quote from: MUBigDance on January 04, 2018, 12:05:22 PM


A win might look like this:

Cain/Elliot/Anim - 20

This is the tough one for me. I see less than 10 pts out of these three collectively. I'd love to see 20 though.
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: rocket surgeon on January 06, 2018, 12:41:43 PM
Quote from: skianth16 on January 04, 2018, 12:30:36 PM
I prefer realistic.

Am I wrong?

"We beat a bubble team on the road, playing without their best guy, and it took a 50 point performance and OT to seal the deal. Playing against a healthy title contender is going to much harder."

on paper, we beat providence on the road.  it's part of the game-ey/na?
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on January 06, 2018, 12:49:06 PM
Shoot 50%+ on 30+ 3PA, keep TO's under 10, force 15+ TOs & convert at a high rate, Heldt/Theo/Harry have to hit every bunny, we need to make 90%+ on FTs as a team, and Cain/Elliott need to keep Bridges in check.

We'll probably have to concede 30+ to Brunson to keep Howard & Rowsey out of foul trouble and on the court for 35+ min apiece.

Then we have a chance.
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on January 06, 2018, 02:22:49 PM
YES!
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: GoldenZebra on January 06, 2018, 03:58:21 PM
If we beat nova tonight I will eat my toenails. not being negative, I just dont see it.
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 06, 2018, 04:04:33 PM
Distribute via a lottery to all Scoopers, hey?
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 06, 2018, 04:46:37 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 06, 2018, 09:51:27 AM
We absolutely can.

But if I had to guess, Nova would beat us in Philly 96 times out of 100.

No chance (in the literal sense). But odds tonight are long. Need 2 of Big 3 to go off.

Ya know, it's crazy. I watched Markus' full game highlights in YouTube. Every attempt, Miss or make. Kid put up 52 and missed a bunch of shots he usually makes. It's crazy to think what he could do if he really went unconscious.
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: GGGG on January 06, 2018, 04:58:18 PM
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 06, 2018, 04:46:37 PM
No chance (in the literal sense). But odds tonight are long. Need 2 of Big 3 to go off.

Ya know, it's crazy. I watched Markus' full game highlights in YouTube. Every attempt, Miss or make. Kid put up 52 and missed a bunch of shots he usually makes. It's crazy to think what he could do if he really went unconscious.


He went 11/19 from three and 17/29 overall.  I mean, I guess he could have shot better...
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 06, 2018, 05:03:05 PM
Quote from: Sultan of Kookiness on January 06, 2018, 04:58:18 PM

He went 11/19 from three and 17/29 overall.  I mean, I guess he could have shot better...

I'm in no way ripping Markus. Just commenting that when rewatching his entire game highlights, I was surprised at the number of missed good looks. It could easily been 65 points.
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: real chili 83 on January 06, 2018, 05:07:48 PM
Si.
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: Class71 on January 06, 2018, 06:03:03 PM
Marquette plays with house money tonight. No one expects them to win. For Villanova this game is a must win. It is at home with their famous home cooking.  They are also coming off a huge unexpected loss and the memory of their loss to us last year. They will be fired up. If we can blunt their start we have a chance. It is a huge long shot but everyone already knows that.
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: MuMark on January 06, 2018, 06:46:02 PM
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 06, 2018, 05:03:05 PM
I'm in no way ripping Markus. Just commenting that when rewatching his entire game highlights, I was surprised at the number of missed good looks. It could easily been 65 points.

See the thing is even great shooters miss good looks. ......every game and quite often.

If you think he wasn't on fire in that game you need to recalibrate your thermometer

For every good look you think he missed he made a tough 1 .....including a banked in 3.

Easily 65?.....come on
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: Disco Hippie on January 06, 2018, 06:52:32 PM
It's at Wells Fargo so we have a shot.  It it were at their on-campus gym I don't think we'd stand a chance.
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: Benny B on January 06, 2018, 07:02:51 PM
Imma just getta on record now and say "Yes."
Title: Re: Can We beat Nova?
Post by: MattyWarrior on January 06, 2018, 07:50:35 PM
we need to play with some passion and move the damn ball around
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