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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Mr. Sand-Knit on December 02, 2017, 11:29:36 AM

Title: Xavier-Cincy
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on December 02, 2017, 11:29:36 AM
Kantner for Xavier, a grad transfer from UWGB has 11 early and plays good defense at the 4.  Was MU involved, could of really helped and can stroke the 3, so woulda fit right in
Title: Re: Xavier-Cincy
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 02, 2017, 01:55:39 PM
Heard JP Macura and Mick Cronin had a bit of a run in after the game.
Title: Re: Xavier-Cincy
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 02, 2017, 02:05:26 PM
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 02, 2017, 01:55:39 PM
Heard JP Macura and Mick Cronin had Abby of a run in after the game.

JP being JP apparently
Title: Re: Xavier-Cincy
Post by: jesmu84 on December 02, 2017, 03:16:16 PM
Superbar
Title: Re: Xavier-Cincy
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 02, 2017, 03:37:24 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on December 02, 2017, 02:05:26 PM
JP being JP apparently

People used to to say this about me in college.
Title: Re: Xavier-Cincy
Post by: Archies Bat on December 02, 2017, 04:46:30 PM
Saw Mick's presser.

JP is a college student who acts like a d*ck.  I look forward to him graduating.

However, Mick is an experienced college coach.

To me, he is the bigger d*ck for calling out JP in the post game presser. He came across to me as worse than the Bucky fans.
Title: Re: Xavier-Cincy
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on December 02, 2017, 04:50:35 PM
Cronins always been a little bitch, he would be better off worrying about his own players and receiving coaching advise as opposed to giving it.
Title: Re: Xavier-Cincy
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 02, 2017, 06:14:33 PM
Maybe S didn't wanna play in da sandbox wit K, ai na?
Title: Re: Xavier-Cincy
Post by: T-Bone on December 02, 2017, 07:29:01 PM
Mack's comments about this were what Cronin wishes he said.
Title: Re: Xavier-Cincy
Post by: We R Final Four on December 02, 2017, 08:29:36 PM
I love that rivalry.
Catholics vs convicts 2.
Title: Re: Xavier-Cincy
Post by: Jay Bee on December 02, 2017, 09:01:00 PM
JP is a competitor on the court, but super nice kid off the court. Inside with X & JP. Eff Cronin
Title: Re: Xavier-Cincy
Post by: Dawson Rental on December 02, 2017, 11:50:09 PM
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on December 02, 2017, 11:29:36 AM
Kantner for Xavier, a grad transfer from UWGB has 11 early and plays good defense at the 4.  Was MU involved, could of really helped and can stroke the 3, so woulda fit right in

Very unlikely.  Why?  Harry Froling.  Same kind of player, bigger rep, more time left in his career, already on campus getting in shape and learning the system.

You could have figured that all out, just think things through before you post.
Title: Re: Xavier-Cincy
Post by: 94Warrior on December 03, 2017, 07:38:52 PM
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on December 02, 2017, 04:50:35 PM
Cronins always been a little bitch, he would be better off worrying about his own players and receiving coaching advise as opposed to giving it.

I agree.  And, like Chris Mack said post-game...be the bigger man.
Title: Re: Xavier-Cincy
Post by: wadesworld on December 03, 2017, 08:04:37 PM
While Cronin is a complete d bag and has been for a while, and completely mishandled this situation, especially in the presser, Mack's teams typically have a couple guys that could certainly use a bit more humility and Mack certainly doesn't seem to try to get that out of his players.  The suspensions he handed down for the brawl with Cincinnati were a complete joke.

Also Macura is a clown.  His ability to score the basketball is well liked by Xavier fans, but from what I've been told students can't stand the guy.  When he's not chirping on the basketball court he can be found pulling his pants down in bars.
Title: Re: Xavier-Cincy
Post by: Golden Avalanche on December 03, 2017, 08:46:04 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on December 03, 2017, 08:04:37 PM
While Cronin is a complete d bag and has been for a while, and completely mishandled this situation, especially in the presser, Mack's teams typically have a couple guys that could certainly use a bit more humility and Mack certainly doesn't seem to try to get that out of his players.  The suspensions he handed down for the brawl with Cincinnati were a complete joke.

Also Macura is a clown.  His ability to score the basketball is well liked by Xavier fans, but from what I've been told students can't stand the guy.  When he's not chirping on the basketball court he can be found pulling his pants down in bars.

This is the truth.

Mack runs a program that enjoys having guys who live on the edge. But in today's transactional world where morals and ethics are a fleeting thought to drop in favor of braggadocio, X is our renegade program so we must defend it to the hilt. 
Title: Re: Xavier-Cincy
Post by: Lennys Tap on December 03, 2017, 09:34:46 PM
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on December 03, 2017, 08:46:04 PM
This is the truth.

Mack runs a program that enjoys having guys who live on the edge. But in today's transactional world where morals and ethics are a fleeting thought to drop in favor of braggadocio, X is our renegade program so we must defend it to the hilt.

Mack runs a program that wins games and graduates players. Renegade? LOL. We should be so lucky.
Title: Re: Xavier-Cincy
Post by: wadesworld on December 03, 2017, 09:50:52 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 03, 2017, 09:34:46 PM
Mack runs a program that wins games and graduates players. Renegade? LOL. We should be so lucky.

https://youtu.be/f5BMseYWyZQ

https://youtu.be/5gpS7PSYWcM

Thanks but no thanks. It was enjoyable to be in the arena while we "zipped em up" and Tu Holloway sat on the bench in tears about 8 months prior to that though.
Title: Re: Xavier-Cincy
Post by: Lennys Tap on December 04, 2017, 09:20:40 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on December 03, 2017, 09:50:52 PM
https://youtu.be/f5BMseYWyZQ

https://youtu.be/5gpS7PSYWcM

Thanks but no thanks. It was enjoyable to be in the arena while we "zipped em up" and Tu Holloway sat on the bench in tears about 8 months prior to that though.

APR has been around for 12 years. Marquette has an average score of 957.5, Xavier's is 969.7. Eliminate our two worst years (2004-5 and 2005-6, scores of 918 and 927) and we're closer, but still short of Xavier's level. Calling them a "renegade program" is intellectually dishonest.
Title: Re: Xavier-Cincy
Post by: Golden Avalanche on December 04, 2017, 10:25:43 AM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 04, 2017, 09:20:40 AM
APR has been around for 12 years. Marquette has an average score of 957.5, Xavier's is 969.7. Eliminate our two worst years (2004-5 and 2005-6, scores of 918 and 927) and we're closer, but still short of Xavier's level. Calling them a "renegade program" is intellectually dishonest.

Multiple academic issues. Multiple sexual assault issues. Multiple domestic violence issues. Multiple disciplinary issues on the court.

I know you enjoy these types of programs. You certainly miss Buzz running this type of program at Marquette. It's your compromise to make.
Title: Re: Xavier-Cincy
Post by: Lennys Tap on December 04, 2017, 11:47:08 AM
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on December 04, 2017, 10:25:43 AM
Multiple academic issues. Multiple sexual assault issues. Multiple domestic violence issues. Multiple disciplinary issues on the court.

I know you enjoy these types of programs. You certainly miss Buzz running this type of program at Marquette. It's your compromise to make.

I've never advocated for bad character guys at MU - but would I take a Maurice Lucas, Larry McNeill, Bob Lackey, Gary Brell, Dwyane Wade or Vander Blue over a really sweet guy like Matt Heldt? Hell, I probably even take a Patrick Hazel or a Ryan Amoroso over Matt. James "Manchild" Mathews? Not so much.
Title: Re: Xavier-Cincy
Post by: i71_dawg on December 04, 2017, 12:52:41 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 04, 2017, 11:47:08 AM
I've never advocated for bad character guys at MU - but would I take a Maurice Lucas, Larry McNeill, Bob Lackey, Gary Brell, Dwyane Wade or Vander Blue over a really sweet guy like Matt Heldt? Hell, I probably even take a Patrick Hazel or a Ryan Amoroso over Matt. James "Manchild" Mathews? Not so much.

Agreed...Heldt is tough to watch.  Seems like a very nice kid...tries hard...but not a high major big man by any stretch...no athleticism, no quickness, no offense, no rim protection, gets caught 40 feet or more away from the basket all the time, an upperclassman who lacks strength and tends to get pushed around.

I'd take a Jarrod Lovette, or even Richard Shaw (but not John Polonowski) over what we're getting from Heldt.

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Title: Re: Xavier-Cincy
Post by: Herman Cain on December 04, 2017, 10:50:50 PM
The bad blood rivalry between Xavier and Cincy is actually good for the Big East.    It is a good story line for the national press and gives a lot of free publicity.
Title: Re: Xavier-Cincy
Post by: wadesworld on December 04, 2017, 11:40:38 PM
Quote from: Herman Cain on December 04, 2017, 10:50:50 PM
The bad blood rivalry between Xavier and Cincy is actually good for the Big East.    It is a good story line for the national press and gives a lot of free publicity.

It does nothing for the BE (or AAC).
Title: Re: Xavier-Cincy
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 05, 2017, 07:18:51 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on December 04, 2017, 11:40:38 PM
It does nothing for the BE (or AAC).

Couldn't one argue it helps Xavier's RPI and this the RPI of the conference?
Title: Re: Xavier-Cincy
Post by: cheebs09 on December 05, 2017, 08:17:23 AM
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on December 05, 2017, 07:18:51 AM
Couldn't one argue it helps Xavier's RPI and this the RPI of the conference?

Nm. Wrong thread. Started my Vermont pregame a little early.
Title: Re: Xavier-Cincy
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 05, 2017, 08:18:50 AM
Quote from: cheebs09 on December 05, 2017, 08:17:23 AM
I suppose possible, but I doubt he will. He still has 4 years to play. That would only make sense if he planned to redshirt again.

I think the injury red shirt is only granted at the end of your senior year. I think I remember that from Otule's doctorate year.

Huh?  :o
Title: Re: Xavier-Cincy
Post by: cheebs09 on December 05, 2017, 08:21:11 AM
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on December 05, 2017, 08:18:50 AM
Huh?  :o

That's weird. Thought I was in the Eke thread.
Title: Re: Xavier-Cincy
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 05, 2017, 07:08:36 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on December 02, 2017, 09:01:00 PM
JP is a competitor on the court, but super nice kid off the court. Inside with X & JP. Eff Cronin

JP certainly shows balls both on and off the court
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