1)Cam Marotta
2)Mike Lelito
3)Markus
Even against this garbage team
Markus broke a team record
It's him.
M Howard. Good night.
Markus
But Sacar had a double double.
And the freshmen look more comfortable every game.
Markus.
Solid efforts by Greg, Jamal, Sacar and Andrew
Our new sole leader in threes made in a game: Howard.
1. M2N. Unbelievable shooting.
2. Sacar. Nice double double.
3 or 4. Cain and Elliott. Either one is 3 or 4.
5. AR. Play more D and he's higher. But the frosh played good D.
Good win. Expected win. Go Warriors!
Greg elliott
1. M2N. Unbelievable shooting.
2. Sacar. Nice double double.
3 or 4. Cain and Elliott. Either one is 3 or 4.
5. AR. Play more D and he's higher. But the frosh played good D.
Good win. Expected win. Go Warriors!
Marknado
Cannot be Markus since failed to make a single two point FG and did not even attempt one FT.
1. Markus
2. GE - 9 assists and 6 boards? Yes, please
Ed morrow jk. Markus
Marcus
Elliott
Sacar
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on November 29, 2017, 10:02:27 PM
Cannot be Markus since failed to make a single two point FG and did not even attempt one FT.
103 eFG% says otherwise. He poured so much in that nothing else matters.
Obviously Markus.
But shout out to Greg Elliot for putting up 6 rebounds, 9 assists, 7 points, a block, a steal, and only 1 TO
1. Markus
2. Chicago State barber
Normally I would pick Andrew's stat line over Markus. 7 less points/1 less rebound but 4 more assists/1 more steal/1 less turnover. But not when Markus breaks a single game school record. Gotta be Markus.
Shout out to Elliott. Even against a garbage opponent, being 3 points, 4 boards, and 1 assist away from a triple double off the bench is impressive. If he can start to hit his threes....he could be beastly.
M2N
Markus
Quote from: chapman on November 29, 2017, 10:05:32 PM
103 eFG% says otherwise. He poured so much in that nothing else matters.
It was a joke. Didn't think teal was necessary.
1. Markus
2. Elliott- He has had two SOTG worthy games in a row.
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Plenty of decent nights, but it's Markus. 11x3 says it all.
Quote from: Herman Cain on November 29, 2017, 10:39:47 PM
1. Markus
2. Elliott- He has had two SOTG worthy games in a row.
2 solid games, sure. But far from SOTG status. If Markus, Sam, or Rowsey had Eliott's stat lines, we'd be upset with them. We need to stop handicapping these guys for this conversation.
Markus.
Markus
Quote from: skianth16 on November 29, 2017, 10:58:38 PM
2 solid games, sure. But far from SOTG status. If Markus, Sam, or Rowsey had Eliott's stat lines, we'd be upset with them. We need to stop handicapping these guys for this conversation.
7/9/6 is a respectable stat line for just about anyone in college basketball. And this team especially needs rebounding and ball distribution.
Markus.
M2N
Markus
Quote from: cheebs09 on November 29, 2017, 10:20:37 PM
1. Markus
2. Chicago State barber
11yr old naginiF: dad, i'm rooting for Marquette to win but is it ok if i also root for that guy with the great hair to do really well?
Quote from: naginiF on November 30, 2017, 08:48:30 AM
11yr old naginiF: dad, i'm rooting for Marquette to win but is it ok if i also root for that guy with the great hair to do really well?
Brilliant young man. Oh, and to give credit where it's due, chick called it a 'frohawk' long before Bardo opened his mouth saying the same thing on the broadcast.
Did we ever figure out where / when Tracy Dildy won that big ring?
Quote from: The Lens on November 30, 2017, 09:02:07 AM
Did we ever figure out where / when Tracy Dildy won that big ring?
I was thinking the same thing. Honestly it could be when they won the 2012-13 Great West Conference tournament. Or maybe it was from something they did when he was at UIC. I don't think any of the teams he was an assistant with did anything of note.
The 85-86 King HS state championship basketball team most likely.
Quote from: skianth16 on November 29, 2017, 10:58:38 PM
2 solid games, sure. But far from SOTG status. If Markus, Sam, or Rowsey had Eliott's stat lines, we'd be upset with them. We need to stop handicapping these guys for this conversation.
Not sure i could ever be upset with a player that put up elkiotts stat line from last night?
Quote from: jsglow on November 30, 2017, 08:55:10 AM
Brilliant young man. Oh, and to give credit where it's due, chick called it a 'frohawk' long before Bardo opened his mouth saying the same thing on the broadcast.
Great job chick, way to beat the announcer with an simple observation. My child got an A on his report card.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on November 30, 2017, 09:26:05 AM
Great job chick, way to beat the announcer with an simple observation. My child got an A on his report card.
Wait just a minute. She said it. And as best as I know didn't even mention it here on the board. I simply relayed it as a fun anecdote from the game, nothing more, and you insult and ridicule her? Really?
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on November 30, 2017, 09:26:05 AM
Great job chick, way to beat the announcer with an simple observation. My child got an A on his report card.
You're better than that, Sand.
One of the middle-school girls I coached was by far the best 3-point shooter in our league. Not even close. She hit 10 as a 6th-grader, 10 as a 7th-grader and 9 as an 8th-grader (when she was asked to play PG and to drive more).
Markus hit 11 ... in one game!
So, for being even better than a 6th-grade girl ...
Seriously, that was dang impressive. All of 'em were dead-center-net swishes, too, and they were from nearly every spot on the perimeter.
It was only Chicago State, but if this was the game that got Markus rolling again, it was a very big game. Season pctg back over 40% despite his rough first few games.
Quote from: MU82 on November 30, 2017, 09:47:19 AM
One of the middle-school girls I coached was by far the best 3-point shooter in our league. Not even close. She hit 10 as a 6th-grader, 10 as a 7th-grader and 9 as an 8th-grader (when she was asked to play PG and to drive more).
Markus hit 11 ... in one game!
So, for being even better than a 6th-grade girl ...
Seriously, that was dang impressive. All of 'em were dead-center-net swishes, too, and they were from nearly every spot on the perimeter.
It was only Chicago State, but if this was the game that got Markus rolling again, it was a very big game. Season pctg back over 40% despite his rough first few games.
There was one from the corner that I particularly remember. The splash of the net was perfectly symmetrical. Thing of beauty.
Quote from: Loose Cannon on November 30, 2017, 09:45:36 AM
You're better than that, Sand.
Are you completely unfamiliar with his posting history? Uhhh, no.
Quote from: Loose Cannon on November 30, 2017, 09:45:36 AM
You're better than that, Sand.
He has given no indication that he is.
Quote from: TSmith34 on November 30, 2017, 09:51:17 AM
Are you completely unfamiliar with his posting history? Uhhh, no.
When was the last Luke post? Step by step.
Mr. Howard
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on November 30, 2017, 09:23:49 AM
Not sure i could ever be upset with a player that put up elkiotts stat line from last night?
Given that plenty of people here were less than impressed with Rowsey's 30/4/5 performance against LSU, I've got to think that if he had Eliott's stat line from last night, there would be some very unhappy Scoopers.
Quote from: tower912 on November 30, 2017, 09:52:13 AM
He has given no indication that he is.
All right, knock it off, all of you.
While I am sincere when I say that I never heard the term "frohawk" before it popped into my head last night, it is apparently already a thing:
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=frohawk
Markus
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on November 30, 2017, 09:23:49 AM
Not sure i could ever be upset with a player that put up elkiotts stat line from last night?
I seem to recall Vander putting up more than a few games in the 5-10 point / 5-9 board / 4-6 assist range with high end defense his frosh & soph years and several people here would claim that he sucked because his jumper looked broke.
Actually the Vander comparison isn't bad. Vander had higher usage, and Elllliottt shoots a little better, but my guess is that his usage is going to increase and his efficiency is going to decrease.
We probably look at Ellliotttt as a pleasant surprise, versus Vander as initially a disappointment, due to the former only playing a limited role (so far) and the hype surrounding their respective recruitments and commitments.
Quote from: jsglow on November 30, 2017, 09:40:30 AM
Wait just a minute. She said it. And as best as I know didn't even mention it here on the board. I simply relayed it as a fun anecdote from the game, nothing more, and you insult and ridicule her? Really?
No just you
NO SOTG YET? This site and all fees we pay and nothing to show for! >:(
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on November 30, 2017, 01:40:43 PM
Wow somebody woke up with a stick up their bum
Character revealed
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on November 30, 2017, 01:40:43 PM
Wow somebody woke up with a stick up their bum
No just dont care what amazing comments posters wives made to them before the announcers had the opportunity to state equally amazing things. Its just dumb
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on November 30, 2017, 02:24:45 PM
No just dont care what amazing comments posters wives made to them before the announcers had the opportunity to state equally amazing things. Its just dumb
Great. Happy you got that off your chest? Go home, forget whatever the F is bugging you (or resolve it) and come back tomorrow focused on more threads.
Today is tomoro, long since forgot about the etymology of frohawk
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on November 30, 2017, 02:24:45 PM
No just dont care what amazing comments posters wives made to them before the announcers had the opportunity to state equally amazing things. Its just dumb
I thought it was a fun anecdote you didn't. Neither of us had to post a response but you chose to be negative because it didn't fit your mold of what type of you care about on here. So again you must've woken up with a stick up their bum.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on November 30, 2017, 02:24:45 PM
No just dont care what amazing comments posters wives made to them before the announcers had the opportunity to state equally amazing things. Its just dumb
Chick isn't just some "posters wives" (could use an apostrophe before the s in posters). She's an actual "
POSTER"! Show some respect, will ya?
Quote from: MU82 on November 30, 2017, 09:47:19 AM
One of the middle-school girls I coached was by far the best 3-point shooter in our league. Not even close. She hit 10 as a 6th-grader, 10 as a 7th-grader and 9 as an 8th-grader (when she was asked to play PG and to drive more).
Markus hit 11 ... in one game!
So, for being even better than a 6th-grade girl ...
Seriously, that was dang impressive. All of 'em were dead-center-net swishes, too, and they were from nearly every spot on the perimeter.
It was only Chicago State, but if this was the game that got Markus rolling again, it was a very big game. Season pctg back over 40% despite his rough first few games.
So are you saying Markus shoots like a 6th grade girl or if you coached Markus he'd shoot like a 6th grade girl?
Warriorchick>Mr. Sand-Knit
SOTG-how can the "greatest student section in the nation" not be given some mention?
::)
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on November 30, 2017, 03:19:42 PM
So are you saying Markus shoots like a 6th grade girl or if you coached Markus he'd shoot like a 6th grade girl?
I absolutely could coach Markus to shoot every bit as well as a 6th-grade girl. That's the kind of coaching ability I possess!
Quote from: MU82 on November 30, 2017, 09:58:31 PM
I absolutely could coach Markus to shoot every bit as well as a 6th-grade girl. That's the kind of coaching ability I possess!
But can you teach defense?
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 30, 2017, 09:59:43 PM
But can you teach defense?
We had the best defense in our league 3 years running. Now all I have to do is arrange it for MU to play against middle-school girls teams and we've got it made. Chicago State was close.
Quote from: MU82 on November 30, 2017, 10:09:54 PM
We had the best defense in our league 3 years running. Now all I have to do is arrange it for MU to play against middle-school girls teams and we've got it made. Chicago State was close.
If you can nail "The Cuddle" you are hired! Tall bar, though...just to warn you.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 30, 2017, 10:21:07 PM
If you can nail "The Cuddle" you are hired! Tall bar, though...just to warn you.
In my first year, I called a time out in a lopsided game so we could work on a new inbound play we had installed in practice the previous day. But when the team got to the sideline, I forgot the play. Totally blanked. My most embarrassing moment as a coach.
Quote from: MU82 on November 30, 2017, 10:09:54 PM
We had the best defense in our league 3 years running. Now all I have to do is arrange it for MU to play against middle-school girls teams and we've got it made. Chicago State was close.
Our defensive problems seem to stem from Howard and Rowsey not being tall enough. Were you able to coach height in any of your girls? Did any of them grow a few inches while under your tutelage? If you could literally "coach them up" about 3-4 inches, I'm sure the staff would appreciate it.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 01, 2017, 05:50:42 AM
Our defensive problems seem to stem from Howard and Rowsey not being tall enough. Were you able to coach height in any of your girls? Did any of them grow a few inches while under your tutelage? If you could literally "coach them up" about 3-4 inches, I'm sure the staff would appreciate it.
What does height have to do with their inability to stop dribble penetration. I can see it having an impact on the entry passing but that is just one of the breakdowns we seem to have.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 01, 2017, 05:50:42 AM
Our defensive problems seem to stem from Howard and Rowsey not being tall enough. Were you able to coach height in any of your girls? Did any of them grow a few inches while under your tutelage? If you could literally "coach them up" about 3-4 inches, I'm sure the staff would appreciate it.
Per KPom:
The Midgets: Average height was 74.7" (341 rank). Adj. DE was 95.5 (55 rank).
This season: Average height is 76.3" (268 rank). Adj. DE is 102.6 (152 rank).
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on December 01, 2017, 05:57:40 AM
What does height have to do with their inability to stop dribble penetration. I can see it having an impact on the entry passing but that is just one of the breakdowns we seem to have.
Less room for error. Taller guards have the ability to make up poor on ball defense with their height and length. Strength and lateral quickness are also factors that hold the two back
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 01, 2017, 08:15:29 AM
Less room for error. Taller guards have the ability to make up poor on ball defense with their height and length. Strength and lateral quickness are also factors that hold the two back
Yep. And I wouldn't say that either Markus or Rowsey are stellar with their lateral quickness.
I think JB once posted something about team height being the most important factor when it comes to defense. The fact is that our best offensive team struggles defensively, while our best defensive lineup would struggle to score.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 01, 2017, 06:44:54 AM
Per KPom:
The Midgets: Average height was 74.7" (341 rank). Adj. DE was 95.5 (55 rank).
This season: Average height is 76.3" (268 rank). Adj. DE is 102.6 (152 rank).
Ha! I was just about to ask:
"Does anybody remember what defensive scheme Buzz ran with the midgets and how effective it was?"I do think it's also worth pointing out that team ranked 305 in adjusted tempo.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 01, 2017, 06:44:54 AM
Per KPom:
The Midgets: Average height was 74.7" (341 rank). Adj. DE was 95.5 (55 rank).
This season: Average height is 76.3" (268 rank). Adj. DE is 102.6 (152 rank).
Yep. Height isnt everything. It's a problem for this team but certainly wouldnt fix everything that's wrong with the defense. Goes to show again that Buzz is a mad genius at times. Great at finding schemes to work with the personnel he has. Something he definitely is much better at than Wojo.
Quote from: Sultan of Slap O' Fivin' on December 01, 2017, 08:20:16 AM
The fact is that our best offensive team struggles defensively, while our best defensive lineup would struggle to score.
This is the crux of our teams issue. Markus, Rowdy, Cain, Elliott, Sacar, and John are all "one way players" at the moment. I would say that only Sam and Matt are equally good on both offense and defense. I think it is more likely that Sacar and the freshmen improve their offense than the midgets improve their defense.
Did I seriously need to use teal on a post about literally coaching height? Weak sauce, Scoop. ::)
Buzz took a weakness and made it a strength. He had his guards playing higher than anyone had ever seen. Pressured the crap out of opposing guards and made the entry passes difficult. It helped that Acker and Cubillan were both very good on ball defenders for their size. Buzz had quickness at all 5 positions and forced other teams to adjust to his line up, taking opponents out of their comfort zone. And he had Warriors. Not a midget year memory, but I can recall Crowder beating up on Drummond.
But there were still times when MU under Buzz had their defense shredded, leading to wailing and gnashing of teeth and internet screeds.
Quote from: tower912 on December 01, 2017, 09:35:57 AM
Buzz took a weakness and made it a strength. He had his guards playing higher than anyone had ever seen. Pressured the crap out of opposing guards and made the entry passes difficult. It helped that Acker and Cubillan were both very good on ball defenders for their size. Buzz had quickness at all 5 positions and forced other teams to adjust to his line up, taking opponents out of their comfort zone. And he had Warriors. Not a midget year memory, but I can recall Crowder beating up on Drummond.
But there were still times when MU under Buzz had their defense shredded, leading to wailing and gnashing of teeth and internet screeds.
Oh yeah. "Why is Otule defending so out from the basket?" was a common theme.
Or the last minute loss to Wake (?), Vandy (?) when Otule doubled the ball, his man rolled, the rotation was late and Otule's man hit the game winner.