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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: tower912 on November 27, 2017, 03:11:05 PM

Title: Start Cain
Post by: tower912 on November 27, 2017, 03:11:05 PM
Keep bringing Sacar and Elliot off of the bench for balance.  Turn Jamal loose on defense and rebounding.  Playing with the experienced players let's him play the 'energy guy' role.
Title: Re: Start Cain
Post by: Lennys Tap on November 27, 2017, 03:15:52 PM
Quote from: tower912 on November 27, 2017, 03:11:05 PM
Keep bringing Scar and Elliot off of the bench for balance.  Turn Jamal loose on defense and rebounding.  Playing with the experienced players let's him play the 'energy guy' role.

? I assume if Wojo thought he could contribute at all he wouldn't be the last guy on the bench.
Title: Re: Start Cain
Post by: Daniel on November 27, 2017, 03:20:01 PM
I am guessing the starters tonight are
Heldt
Hauser
Howard
Rowsey
Anim

Title: Re: Start Cain
Post by: #UnleashSean on November 27, 2017, 03:21:52 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 27, 2017, 03:15:52 PM
? I assume if Wojo thought he could contribute at all he wouldn't be the last guy on the bench.

To be fair wojo isn't always the best at determining who's the best contributers. Rowsey was close to last on the bench for a large part of last year
Title: Re: Start Cain
Post by: We R Final Four on November 27, 2017, 03:26:39 PM
Quote from: Daniel on November 27, 2017, 03:20:01 PM
I am guessing the starters tonight are
Heldt
Hauser
Howard
Rowsey
Anim
Yes.
Title: Re: Start Cain
Post by: GGGG on November 27, 2017, 03:28:39 PM
Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on November 27, 2017, 03:21:52 PM
To be fair wojo isn't always the best at determining who's the best contributers. Rowsey was close to last on the bench for a large part of last year


Yes.  We are clearly better at that than he is.
Title: Re: Start Cain
Post by: tower912 on November 27, 2017, 03:30:24 PM
I understand the argument against.   However, I absolutely loathe the idea of having nothing but freshmen on the bench.   Start Cain, let him be the energy freshman in the starting 5.   Elliot comes in whenever Markus or Rowsey need a rest.    Sacar comes in when Cain gets two quick fouls or Joey needs a rest.    Sacar still gets 30 minutes.    Theo and Matt replace each other.     I am simply trying to come up with a scenario where there is a contributor and not merely a place holder coming off of the bench. 
Title: Re: Start Cain
Post by: ChuckyChip on November 27, 2017, 03:33:29 PM
At this point, Cain is a poor defender (on a team that struggles defensively).  Don't know how much we want to expose that.
Title: Re: Start Cain
Post by: Lennys Tap on November 27, 2017, 03:36:07 PM
Quote from: tower912 on November 27, 2017, 03:30:24 PM
I understand the argument against.   However, I absolutely loathe the idea of having nothing but freshmen on the bench.   Start Cain, let him be the energy freshman in the starting 5.   Elliot comes in whenever Markus or Rowsey need a rest.    Sacar comes in when Cain gets two quick fouls or Joey needs a rest.    Sacar still gets 30 minutes.    Theo and Matt replace each other.     I am simply trying to come up with a scenario where there is a contributor and not merely a place holder coming off of the bench.

Fair points, but Sacar or Elliott coming off the bench isn't Vinnie Johnson or John Havlicek - or Jae Crowder.
Title: Re: Start Cain
Post by: Newsdreams on November 27, 2017, 03:38:12 PM
Don't see it.
Title: Re: Start Cain
Post by: tower912 on November 27, 2017, 03:45:44 PM
Personal preference.   I have always kept one of my best players on the bench to start the game, not wanting to have too many of my good players have to go out at the same time with nothing but lesser talent coming in.   Starting a weak player and bringing a stronger player off of the bench protects against drop off and helps continuity.    IMO. 
Title: Re: Start Cain
Post by: Jay Bee on November 27, 2017, 03:49:54 PM
Sacar
Title: Re: Start Cain
Post by: bilsu on November 27, 2017, 04:07:17 PM
Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on November 27, 2017, 03:21:52 PM
To be fair wojo isn't always the best at determining who's the best contributers. Rowsey was close to last on the bench for a large part of last year
+1
Title: Re: Start Cain
Post by: chapman on November 27, 2017, 04:09:56 PM
Think Sacar is the pick.  Cain's still going to get plenty of minutes, whether he's ready for them or not.  Elliott's earned some extra run, but coming off the bench is probably best with the munchkins already starting.
Title: Re: Start Cain
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on November 27, 2017, 04:23:20 PM
Quote from: tower912 on November 27, 2017, 03:30:24 PM
I understand the argument against.   However, I absolutely loathe the idea of having nothing but freshmen on the bench.   Start Cain, let him be the energy freshman in the starting 5.   Elliot comes in whenever Markus or Rowsey need a rest.    Sacar comes in when Cain gets two quick fouls or Joey Sam needs a rest.    Sacar still gets 30 minutes.    Theo and Matt replace each other.     I am simply trying to come up with a scenario where there is a contributor and not merely a place holder coming off of the bench.
FIFY.

I'd start Sacar over the freshmen and mix them in as needed.
Title: Re: Start Cain
Post by: Pakuni on November 27, 2017, 04:30:31 PM
The good news is that MU has a couple of (should be) easy contests this week for Wojo to shuffle the lineup and see what works.
Title: Re: Start Cain
Post by: GooooMarquette on November 27, 2017, 04:39:04 PM
Quote from: Sultan of Slap O' Fivin' on November 27, 2017, 03:28:39 PM

Yes.  We are clearly better at that than he is.

;D

Title: Re: Start Cain
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on November 27, 2017, 04:42:26 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on November 27, 2017, 03:49:54 PM
Sacar

Timing of things smack Sacar.  I am glad we found him.
Title: Re: Start Cain
Post by: GooooMarquette on November 27, 2017, 04:57:36 PM
My guess is Sacar...both because he has experience, and because IMHO his game is most similar to Haanif's (slashing to the hoop and playing solid D).
Title: Re: Start Cain
Post by: fjm on November 27, 2017, 05:07:42 PM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 27, 2017, 04:42:26 PM
Timing of things smack Sacar.  I am glad we found him.

Haha no kidding right! That was a great response. Remember when sacra transfered last year because we couldn't find him in one team picture. Classic.
Title: Re: Start Cain
Post by: MattyWarrior on November 27, 2017, 06:09:40 PM
Sacar needs a long run to build confidence, hes starting to look more relaxed out there and is one of the few tough guys on this team so far
Title: Re: Start Cain
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on November 27, 2017, 10:45:53 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on November 27, 2017, 04:30:31 PM
The good news is that MU has a couple of (should be) easy contests this week for Wojo to shuffle the lineup and see what works.

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