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Title: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: brewnewsman on November 13, 2017, 10:05:31 AM
Friday – November 10
MU 80, MSM 59
SHU 90, FDU 68
Butler 82, Kennesaw State 64
SJU 77, New Orleans 61
Xavier 101, Moreland State 49
PU 84, Houston Baptist 55
Nova 75, Columbia 60
CU 92, Yale 76

Big East record 8-0


Saturday November 11
ND 72, DePaul 59

Big East record 8-1

Sunday November 12

GU 73, Jacksonville 57
SHU 75, Monmount 65
Butler 85, Princeton 75
CU 109, Alcorn State 72

Big East record  12-1
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on November 13, 2017, 07:41:10 PM
Minny gave Providence a beating
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: brewcity77 on November 13, 2017, 08:07:34 PM
Minny gave Providence a beating

Must've change significantly the last handful of minutes. PC was up 51-46 when we got busy at work. Clearly took a turn from there.
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on November 13, 2017, 08:34:14 PM
Must've change significantly the last handful of minutes. PC was up 51-46 when we got busy at work. Clearly took a turn from there.

Yeah it was kinda a fluke.

Minny was very sloppy and missed many open layups/dunks.

Second half they scored at will.

Providence doesn't have enough talented size to answer Murphy and even Lynch(when he wasn't in usual foul trouble).
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: brewnewsman on November 14, 2017, 05:07:01 AM
Monday November 13

Minnesota    86
Providence   74

Xavier 101
Rider 75

DePaul 81   
Delaware State 57

Big East record 14-2
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: MUBigDance on November 14, 2017, 08:51:53 AM
Thanks for the summary
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: brewnewsman on November 15, 2017, 05:05:44 AM
Tuesday November 14

Purdue 86
MU 71

Cent. Conn St. 55
SJU 80

Nichols 77
VU 113

Big East record 16-3
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: Eye on November 15, 2017, 08:26:25 AM
Unless I'm missing someone here, 16-0 against hairy's and 0-3 against other high-major opponents so far.
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: GooooMarquette on November 15, 2017, 08:33:46 AM
Unless I'm missing someone here, 16-0 against hairy's and 0-3 against other high-major opponents so far.

Yeah, the only win that even caught my attention was Butler beating Princeton.  Is Princeton still any good?
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 15, 2017, 09:37:14 AM
Yeah, the only win that even caught my attention was Butler beating Princeton.  Is Princeton still any good?

I'd put them between top 90 and top 120 in the country.  Solid win but would be concerning if Butler lost
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: bilsu on November 15, 2017, 09:53:59 AM
Tuesday November 14

Purdue 86
MU 71

Cent. Conn St. 55
SJU 80

Nichols 77
VU 113

Big East record 16-3
Remove the bunnies and the Big East is 0-3
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: BM1090 on November 15, 2017, 10:17:59 AM
Remove the bunnies and the Big East is 0-3

Sure. But the 0-3 came from 3 unranked Big East teams playing ranked opponents. SHU will smoke Indiana tonight, Creighton and Butler have a good shot against Northwestern and Maryland.

We'll know more in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: brewnewsman on November 16, 2017, 06:09:34 AM
Wednesday Nov 15

Indiana 68
SHU 84

Mt. St. Mary's 68
Georgetown 102

Butler 65
Maryland 79

Creighton 92
Northwestern 88

Big East record 19-4
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: brewnewsman on November 16, 2017, 06:47:55 AM
For reference going forward – I found this from January 3 – entering last conference season.

Big East had an OOC record of 105-38, .734 win pct.

14 “top 50 wins”  (using KenPom rankings)
11 sub-100 losses

Top-50 wins (14): at Purdue (Villanova); vs. Wake Forest (Villanova and Xavier); vs. Notre Dame (Villanova); vs. Clemson (Xavier); vs. Northwestern (Butler); vs. Arizona (Butler); vs. Cincinnati (Butler); vs. Indiana (Butler); vs. Wisconsin (Creighton); vs. Cal (Seton Hall); vs. South Carolina (Seton Hall); vs. Oregon (Georgetown); vs. Rhode Island (Providence)

Sub-100 losses (11): vs. Old Dominion (St. John's); vs. Delaware State (St. John's); vs. LIU Brooklyn (St. John's); at Indiana State (Butler); vs. Stanford(Seton Hall); vs. Arkansas State (Georgetown); at Boston College (Providence); vs. Rutgers (DePaul); vs. UIC (DePaul); vs. Wyoming (DePaul); vs. Missouri State (DePaul)

https://goo.gl/dvXLHg

Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 16, 2017, 09:36:11 AM
Certainly no bad losses yet.  Need X and Depaul to take care of business to split the Gavitt games. 
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: brewnewsman on November 17, 2017, 07:15:45 AM
Thursday Nov 16

Nebraska 56
SJU 79

Xavier 80
Wisconsin 70

PU 77
Washington 70

Big East record 22-4
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: brewcity77 on November 17, 2017, 07:23:39 AM
Certainly no bad losses yet.  Need X and Depaul to take care of business to split the Gavitt games.

We've already guaranteed a split at worst. Xavier, St. John's, Creighton, and Seton Hall all won. If DePaul wins, we win the challenge 5-3.
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: MUBigDance on November 17, 2017, 01:44:58 PM
I would say not too bad so far.
BE is 22-4 with BT, PV, DP, MU losing to MD, MN, ND, and Purdue  all by double digits.

Those loses are all to decent teams and of course wish we could have won a couple more...will see after holiday tourney type games where we stand.

Don't have the energy to calculate weighted kenpom w/l %   ::) :o
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: muwarrior69 on November 17, 2017, 01:58:37 PM
Thursday Nov 16

Nebraska 56
SJU 79

Xavier 80
Wisconsin 70

PU 77
Washington 70

Big East record 22-4

Wisconsin looked pretty good in that game.
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 17, 2017, 03:08:03 PM
Wisconsin looked pretty good in that game.

If you say so. They shot 41% from the floor and 29% from deep and let X shoot 51% from the floor and 35% from deep. But they did hang in there until falling apart in the last three minutes. I thought Happ looked really good as always. But he really seems like he's that whole team.
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 17, 2017, 03:58:59 PM
We've already guaranteed a split at worst. Xavier, St. John's, Creighton, and Seton Hall all won. If DePaul wins, we win the challenge 5-3.

That post was made yesterday am.  But yes...good results last night.
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: brewcity77 on November 17, 2017, 04:05:48 PM
That post was made yesterday am.  But yes...good results last night.

Just pointing out that X and DePaul taking care of business would earn us 5-3 win, not a split.
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: avid1010 on November 17, 2017, 04:19:27 PM
this has probably been answered before...but how do they decide which teams participate and what match-ups occur?
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: Oldgym on November 17, 2017, 11:57:07 PM
Tonight:
PC stomps SLU 90-63
Nova over Lafayette 104-57
U of I defeats DePaul 82-73
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: Herman Cain on November 19, 2017, 03:17:17 PM
The Big East is currently the top conference in RPI. It is early in the season so this ranking will bounce around a bit. 
http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_bige_Men.html
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: brewnewsman on November 20, 2017, 08:53:23 AM

Saturday 11/18

Georgetown 83
MD- Eastern Shore 57

Butler 82
Furman 65

SHU 82
NJIT 53

No games Sunday 11/19

Big East record 27-5

1-3 versus ranked teams
Wins: Creighton beats #20 Northwestern;
Losses: DePaul loses to #14 ND; PU loses to #14 Minn; MU loses to #19 Purdue; 

Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on November 20, 2017, 09:26:40 AM
PU= Purdue University

PC= Providence College
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: Oldgym on November 20, 2017, 04:07:27 PM
Jeff Borzello

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/21470858/power-rankings-big-east-best-conference-country
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: warriorstrack on November 20, 2017, 08:59:56 PM
Color me blue, but I like our chances at Wisconsin. ESPN2 right now, if we can play to our strengths, Baylor taking care of business.

Cue hate for Brad Davison
Badger tool
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: Oldgym on November 20, 2017, 09:03:46 PM
Creighton drops 100 on UCLA and wins by 11.
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: We R Final Four on November 21, 2017, 07:08:10 AM
Color me blue, but I like our chances at Wisconsin. ESPN2 right now, if we can play to our strengths, Baylor taking care of business.

Cue hate for Brad Davison
Badger tool

I fear the Ethan Happ show will be in full force.
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: brewnewsman on November 21, 2017, 08:32:58 AM
Monday Nov 20

MU 94
VCU 83

SJU 71
Molloy 43

Creighton 100
(23) UCLA 89

Xavier 96
Hampton 60

Big East record 30-5

2-3 versus ranked teams
Wins: Creighton v. #20 Northwestern; Creighton v. #23 UCLA
Losses: DePaul v. #14 ND; PC v. #14 Minn; MU v. #19 Purdue 
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: brewnewsman on November 22, 2017, 10:52:55 AM
Tuesday Nov 21

#6 Wichita State 80
MU 66

#22Baylor 65
Creighton 69

Big East record 30-7

2-5 versus ranked teams
Wins: Creighton v. #20 Northwestern; Creighton v. #23 UCLA
Losses: DePaul v. #14 ND; PC v. #14 Minn; MU v. #19 Purdue; MU v. #6 WSU; Creighton v. #22 Baylor 
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: T-Bone on November 22, 2017, 11:01:09 AM
Tuesday Nov 21

#6 Wichita State 80
MU 66

#22Baylor 65
Creighton 59

Big East record 30-7

2-5 versus ranked teams
Wins: Creighton v. #20 Northwestern; Creighton v. #23 UCLA
Losses: DePaul v. #14 ND; PC v. #14 Minn; MU v. #19 Purdue; MU v. #6 WSU; Creighton v. #22 Baylor
Minor modification.
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: brewnewsman on November 24, 2017, 08:35:10 AM
Wed Nov 22

MU 94
LSU 84

Villanova 66
W. Kentucky 58

Providence 66
Belmont 65

Thurs Nov 23

Villanova 85
Tennessee 76

SJU 82
Oregon State 77

Xavier 83
G Washington 64

URI 75
SHU 74

Texas 61
Butler 48

(#4) Michigan  State 73
DePaul 51

Big East record 36-10

2-6 versus ranked teams

Wins:
Creighton v. #20 Northwestern
Creighton v. #23 UCLA

Losses:
DePaul v. #14 ND
PC v. #14 Minn
MU v. #19 Purdue
MU v. #6 WSU
Creighton v. #22 Baylor
DePaul v. #4 MSU
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: brewnewsman on November 28, 2017, 10:09:56 AM

Fri Nov 24
Missouri 90
SJU 82

VU 64
N. Iowa 50

Butler 71
Portland State 69

ASU 102
Xavier 86

Oregon 89
DePaul 79

SHU 72
Vandy 59

Sat Nov 25
Creighton 103
SIUE 66

Georgetown 82
Richmond 76

Providence 86
BC 66

Sunday Nov 26
SJU 46
UCF 43

Butler 67
Ohio State 66

DePaul 82
Portland 69

Mon Nov 27

Marquette 86
E. Illinois 83

=======================================

Big East record 46-13

2-6 versus ranked teams

Wins:
Creighton v. #20 Northwestern
Creighton v. #23 UCLA

Losses:
DePaul v. #14 ND
PC v. #14 Minn
MU v. #19 Purdue
MU v. #6 WSU
Creighton v. #22 Baylor
DePaul v. #4 MSU
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: lurch91 on November 30, 2017, 08:46:02 PM
Seton Hall just took down #22 Texas Tech.
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: MuMark on November 30, 2017, 08:56:07 PM
And Xavier beat Baylor on Tuesday
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: brewnewsman on December 01, 2017, 11:34:46 AM
Tues Nov 28
Xavier 76
#16 Baylor 63

Georgetown 76
Maine 55

Wed Nov 29
Marquette 95
Chi State 69

Providence 88
Rider 84

VU 90
Penn 62

Thurs Nov 30
SHU 89
#22 Texas Tech 79



Big East record 52-13

4-6 versus ranked teams

Wins:
Creighton v. #20 Northwestern
Creighton v. #23 UCLA
Xavier v. #16 Baylor
SHU v. #22 Texas Tech

Losses:
DePaul v. #14 ND
PC v. #14 Minn
MU v. #19 Purdue
MU v. #6 WSU
Creighton v. #22 Baylor
DePaul v. #4 MSU
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: brewnewsman on December 04, 2017, 11:39:56 AM
Friday Dec 1
#15 Gonzaga 91
Creighton 74

Sat Dec 2
Georgia 73
MU 66

Xavier 89
#11 Cincinnati 76

Butler 75
St. Louis 45

DePaul 89
Youngstown St 73

SJU 90
Sacred Heart 55

URI 75
Providence 68

VU 94
St. Joes 53

Sunday Dec 3
SHU 79
#17 Louisville 77

Georgetown 76
Coppin St 60
==================================


Big East record 59-16


6-7 versus ranked teams


Wins:
Creighton v. #20 Northwestern
Creighton v. #23 UCLA
Xavier v. #16 Baylor
SHU v. #22 Texas Tech
Xavier v. #11 Cincinnati
SHU v. #17 Louisville

Losses:
DePaul v. #14 ND
PC v. #14 Minn
MU v. #19 Purdue
MU v. #6 WSU
Creighton v. #22 Baylor
DePaul v. #4 MSU
Creighton v. #15 Gonzaga
Title: Re: Big East Non-Conference Record 2017
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on December 04, 2017, 11:43:49 AM
also the conference has no bad losses, which is nice.  Depaul @ Illinois is probably the worst losses.

Only 3 losses to teams outside of power conferences - 1 of which was Gonzaga, and the other 2 were Rhode Island, both of which are obviously very good teams.

Strong start for the conference.