When does mu play in the basketball tournament and who
the play-in games to get into the final 64 are this weekend.
The Marquette squad already has a spot in the 64 and should be playing 7/15-7/16
http://bracket.thetournament.com/#/
http://www.thetournament.com/teams/golden-eagles-marquette-alumni
Will this be streamed or broadcast?
Quote from: real chili 83 on June 17, 2017, 01:40:24 PM
Will this be streamed or broadcast?
All games on watchespn.com
Sweet 16 and beyond are on espn or espn 2
Looks like our weekend is freeing up from other commitments. Chick already chatting me up.
The Basketball Tournament
What: The 16-team Midwest Region
When: July 15-16
Where: Renaissance Coliseum, Peoria
Teams: Always a Brave (Bradley alumni); Banner Boys (Wisconsin-Milwaukee alumni); Canton Bulldogs; Fort Wayne Champs; Golden Eagles (Marquette alumni); HBC; Hilton Magic Legends (Iowa State alumni); Jackson (Tenn.) Underdogs; Majerus SLU Crew (St. Louis alumni); Mid-American Unity; Midwest Dream Squad; Peoria All-Stars; Purple and Black (Kansas State alumni); The Region; Scarlet & Gray (Ohio State alumni).
Next: Four surviving teams advance to the Super 16, scheduled for July 20-23 in New York.
Marquette (alumni) vs. UWM (alummi) anyone?
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on June 19, 2017, 11:37:28 AM
Marquette (alumni) vs. UWM (alummi) anyone?
Would that be added on to the current 39-0 record?
We are the #1 seed in the Midwest. First game against Midwest Dream squad featuring former Dookie Sean Dockery.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on June 19, 2017, 02:57:12 PM
Would that be added on to the current 39-0 record?
With an asterisk? 40-0*
Bracket
SLU in the second round!
https://www.thetournament.com/bracket?mc_cid=da67733c54&mc_eid=afb29e8f4d
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on June 20, 2017, 03:51:46 PM
Bracket
SLU in the second round!
https://www.thetournament.com/bracket?mc_cid=da67733c54&mc_eid=afb29e8f4d
We're a #1 seed!
I see that the our first opponent is named ironically.
Quote from: warriorchick on June 20, 2017, 04:47:25 PM
We're a #1 seed!
I see that the our first opponent is named ironically.
They have a player on their team named Bryant Orange. It would have been so perfect if Vander was playing for the Marquette team.
They are hyping us big time:
"Many are saying that the Golden Eagles have the most pure talent of anybody in the TBT 2017 field. Dwight Buycks returns to the team after averaging 24.5 points per game en route to TBT 2016 All-Tournament Team honors last summer. Fellow guards Maurice Acker, Joe Chapman, Darius Johnson-Odom, Trent Lockett and Jerel McNeal give the Wesley Matthews-coached team arguably the best backcourt in TBT history."
News to me. Jamil is back for his second run at the $!
Quote from: warriorchick on June 20, 2017, 04:56:22 PM
They are hyping us big time:
"Many are saying that the Golden Eagles have the most pure talent of anybody in the TBT 2017 field. Dwight Buycks returns to the team after averaging 24.5 points per game en route to TBT 2016 All-Tournament Team honors last summer. Fellow guards Maurice Acker, Joe Chapman, Darius Johnson-Odom, Trent Lockett and Jerel McNeal give the Wesley Matthews-coached team arguably the best backcourt in TBT history."
The backcourt definitely isn't a problem. Though when you look at the pool of players who were here in the past 15-20 years, that's no surprise, nor is our lack of frontcourt depth surprising.
Quote from: brewcity77 on June 20, 2017, 06:37:04 PM
The backcourt definitely isn't a problem. Though when you look at the pool of players who were here in the past 15-20 years, that's no surprise, nor is our lack of frontcourt depth surprising.
I'm hoping Juan and Trent can really help with our rebounding and D. Both were huge effort guys and neither minds doing the dirty work.
Thank the Maker that we don't have to play the always-dangerous Always a Brave at Bradley. A rematch would happen in Brooklyn.
Quote from: barfolomew on June 20, 2017, 08:56:02 PM
Thank the Maker that we don't have to play the always-dangerous Always a Brave at Bradley. A rematch would happen in Brooklyn.
Thon Maker?
Quote from: barfolomew on June 20, 2017, 08:56:02 PM
Thank the Maker that we don't have to play the always-dangerous Always a Brave at Bradley. A rematch would happen in Brooklyn.
Agreed.
Quote from: warriorchick on June 20, 2017, 04:56:22 PM
They are hyping us big time:
"Many are saying that the Golden Eagles have the most pure talent of anybody in the TBT 2017 field. Dwight Buycks returns to the team after averaging 24.5 points per game en route to TBT 2016 All-Tournament Team honors last summer. Fellow guards Maurice Acker, Joe Chapman, Darius Johnson-Odom, Trent Lockett and Jerel McNeal give the Wesley Matthews-coached team arguably the best backcourt in TBT history."
I enjoyed watching Dwight Buycks last year and Joe Chapman was in solid form as well
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on June 21, 2017, 03:46:40 PM
I enjoyed watching Dwight Buycks last year and Joe Chapman was in solid form as well
REAL thick neck on Joe. Very nice neck.
Quote from: wadesworld on June 21, 2017, 04:54:05 PM
REAL thick neck on Joe. Very nice neck.
Yes he represents what having a good neck is all about. Gives him some good stability on that jump shot .
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on June 21, 2017, 04:55:40 PM
Yes he represents what having a good neck is all about. Gives him some good stability on that jump shot .
Makes you wonder what he could've done at Marquette had he shown that much dedication to the neck during his time here. You live and you learn I suppose.
I received an e-mail saying it's the last chance to enter a bracket!
http://www.pickhoops.com/tbt?mc_cid=400f0ace62&mc_eid=%5bUNIQID%5d&mc_cid=44337cbd42&mc_eid=%5bUNIQID%5d&mc_cid=839a91949a&mc_eid=afb29e8f4d
Wait, Juan Anderson?
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on June 20, 2017, 04:52:50 PM
They have a player on their team named Bryant Orange. It would have been so perfect if Vander was playing for the Marquette team.
Or Artie Green.
What's the point of tbt. I realize it's cool to see alum but how does it benefit MU current program? Just popularity?
Quote from: Marquette4life on July 06, 2017, 07:50:10 PM
What's the point of tbt. I realize it's cool to see alum but how does it benefit MU current program? Just popularity?
Let's say you really liked Seinfeld, but could only watch reruns from the last two seasons.
Then someone started airing the early seasons when -- and don't get you wrong, you still LIKED the later seasons a lot -- but when you thought it was by and large much funnier.
You'd be kinda stoked about that, right?
Quote from: Marquette4life on July 06, 2017, 07:50:10 PM
What's the point of tbt. I realize it's cool to see alum but how does it benefit MU current program? Just popularity?
It started out just as a basketball tournament. Last season saw a huge rise of alumni teams, and this year has even more. Not sure of other schools, but MU is definitely involved with the roster process and such.
Quote from: Marquette4life on July 06, 2017, 07:50:10 PM
What's the point of tbt. I realize it's cool to see alum but how does it benefit MU current program? Just popularity?
It gets ESPN coverage and last yaer lots of MU mentions. It was fun to watch. Guys get a shot at 2 million
Here's the blurb on the tbt website:
Many are saying that the Golden Eagles have the most pure talent of anybody in the TBT 2017 field. Dwight Buycks returns to the team after averaging 24.5 points per game en route to TBT 2016 All-Tournament Team honors last summer. Fellow guards Maurice Acker, Joe Chapman, Darius Johnson-Odom, Trent Lockett and Jerel McNeal give the Wesley Matthews-coached team arguably the best backcourt in TBT history.
Pressure's on!
If they lose, obviously gotta fire Wojo.
Based on his summer league performance, is it fair to say Buycks might be a maybe?
Quote from: Marquette4life on July 06, 2017, 07:50:10 PM
What's the point of tbt. I realize it's cool to see alum but how does it benefit MU current program? Just popularity?
What's the point of anything really....
Quote from: cheebs09 on July 07, 2017, 08:22:16 AM
Based on his summer league performance, is it fair to say Buycks might be a maybe?
No indication of that. Vegas is over before TBT starts. Last year Jamil played in Vegas and TBT.
Quote from: jsglow on July 07, 2017, 09:24:17 AM
No indication of that. Vegas is over before TBT starts. Last year Jamil played in Vegas and TBT.
If Buycks is offered a contract due to his Vegas performance, he isn't playing in the TBT.
Quote from: jsglow on July 07, 2017, 09:24:17 AM
No indication of that. Vegas is over before TBT starts. Last year Jamil played in Vegas and TBT.
The Knicks want to sign Dwight if they can get him on the cheap.
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on July 07, 2017, 10:21:20 AM
The Knicks want to sign Dwight if they can get him on the cheap.
I've got to think that their chances of doing that are enhanced if Dwight pockets his share of 2Mil first.
Quote from: Newsdrms on July 06, 2017, 08:35:56 PM
It gets ESPN coverage and last yaer lots of MU mentions. It was fun to watch. Guys get a shot at 2 million
MU mentions? Must have low self esteem regarding MUBB hey?
Screw Lunardi
https://twitter.com/thetournament/status/884848926825873409
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on July 11, 2017, 05:07:13 PM
Screw Lunardi
https://twitter.com/thetournament/status/884848926825873409
If Oden plays on that Ohio State team, even at less than 100%, they would be a matchup nightmare.
When was the last time Ogden was 100%? 8th Grade?
Quote from: We R Final Four on July 11, 2017, 05:57:39 PM
When was the last time Ogden was 100%? 8th Grade?
True... I think he had already had the left knee replaced by then.
Team workout today
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/885143524827688960
More
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/885147808004677632
So FYI. Our Warriors open at 7:30 Saturday evening at Bradley's fieldhouse. Assuming victory, Sunday's game is scheduled for 4:15.
Quote from: jsglow on July 12, 2017, 12:06:44 PM
So FYI. Our Warriors open at 7:30 Saturday evening at Bradley's fieldhouse. Assuming victory, Sunday's game is scheduled for 4:15.
Too lazy to look it up, who do we play on Saturday?
Side note, it's looking likely that there will be a pod recorded on Sunday so everyone should clear their schedules.
Quote from: mu03eng on July 12, 2017, 03:23:22 PM
Too lazy to look it up, who do we play on Saturday?
Side note, it's looking likely that there will be a pod recorded on Sunday so everyone should clear their schedules.
So Joey will be committing Sunday night, huh?
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on July 12, 2017, 03:25:53 PM
So Joey will be committing Sunday night, huh?
(https://media.tenor.com/images/014e41a3219f6fdef19c48abf2d374d4/tenor.gif)
So was this seeded based on anything or was it vote totals or something similar?
Each team is given an experience rating based on the players on the team - top points for NBA experience, next level for "other professional," then college, hs, etc. Marquette has one of the highest experience ratings of the tourney - I think Bradley and one other team are just above or below us.
Another thing to note: last year they had a "ringer" you could unlock at the regional final level if you had a certain number of votes. This year, they have an option to pay to add players. As the tournament progresses, it costs you more to bring in a player. This could make it interesting when teams get close to the finals and pay to add top players to the team.
https://www.thetournament.com/news/tbt-podcast-ep-86-midwest-regional-preview
If you skip to the 26th minute you will hear something I'd never thought I would ever here... "Davante Gardner is more of a defensive player for them."
So is anyone road tripping to Peoria?
Quote from: ChitownJHaus on July 15, 2017, 07:14:27 AM
https://www.thetournament.com/news/tbt-podcast-ep-86-midwest-regional-preview
If you skip to the 26th minute you will hear something I'd never thought I would ever here... "Davante Gardner is more of a defensive player for them."
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Quote from: ChitownJHaus on July 15, 2017, 07:14:27 AM
https://www.thetournament.com/news/tbt-podcast-ep-86-midwest-regional-preview
If you skip to the 26th minute you will hear something I'd never thought I would ever here... "Davante Gardner is more of a defensive player for them."
That was hilarious. Just goes to show that if you have a pod you can say anything stupid you wangt and get away with it. #fakenews. Right Eng?
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 15, 2017, 07:43:26 AM
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May be the first time in history that 'Davante Gardner' and 'defensive stopper' have ever been used together.
So we're road trippin' for the weekend. Convertible, summertime, a few barley pops and some hoops. Not bad for an old man.
Is todays game televised??
Quote from: jHausglow on July 15, 2017, 10:39:47 AM
So we're road trippin' for the weekend. Convertible, summertime, a few barley pops and some hoops. Not bad for an old man.
Ya, you are old.
Quote from: jHausglow on July 15, 2017, 10:39:47 AM
So we're road trippin' for the weekend. Convertible, summertime, a few barley pops and some hoops. Not bad for an old man.
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Quote from: real hauserchili 83 on July 15, 2017, 10:51:34 AM
Ya, you are old.
Yeah, but check out who is riding shotgun brother. 8-)
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on July 15, 2017, 10:45:49 AM
Is todays game televised??
ESPN3 or if you have watchespn access you can watch
Glow and I are at the Bradley field house. Looks like a slightly less impressive version of the AL
When did Chapman get added to the roster? So same team as last year minus Derrick and Townsend and adding Juan and Blackledge right?
Jamil is here and it looks like he came to play.
Quote from: joeychick on July 15, 2017, 06:54:34 PM
Jamil is here and it looks like he came to play.
Great!
Edit: Nevermind. It looks like the game before MU's still has 6 minutes left in it.
Looks like chat not working
Quote from: News-Joey dreams MU on July 15, 2017, 08:02:04 PM
Looks like chat not working
You can browse there directly if you'd like:
http://www.chatzy.com/69727990208775
Those guys are making just about every shot they take
DJO struggling so far.
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on July 15, 2017, 08:27:33 PM
DJO struggling so far.
Him and Jerel move like they're about 45 years old.
Big Smoove dominating.
Vander would be a difference maker in this style of basketball. Wonder why he doesn't play.
I'm expecting MU to win this game by 20. They made some absurd shots in the first half that simply won't continue to fall, to go along with the fact that they only have 7 guys and already seemed to have worn down by the end of the half. How many fouls do players get in this tournament? Davante might be able to foul out 3 guys on his own...
Ragged. Ox rules.
Glow, is that you in the Gold wig?
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on July 15, 2017, 08:37:12 PM
Big Smoove dominating.
Yep, but too close for comfort. Should be up by more.
Whats the score?
MU guards playing like ass
Lil Bit with two treys. MU up 59-54
74-60. Dwight feeling it finally
The screaming girl is there
Up 74-62 with 10 min left. Buycks is on fire from deep.
83-64. Guards found their groove.
89-68 with 6 min left. Other team is gassed. DJO stroking it from deep now.
103-89. Final. Nice trey show
Dancing bear didn't play second half. Hope they were just resting him for tomorrow.
Watch ESPN was useless for me. Reset my password, app doesn't work and doesn't allow you to verify your password. Missed the whole game.
Did you try deleting and reinstalling app?
Quote from: jHausglow on July 15, 2017, 11:31:38 AM
Yeah, but check out who is riding shotgun brother. 8-)
You deserve a doubleheader.
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 15, 2017, 09:35:58 PM
Watch ESPN was useless for me. Reset my password, app doesn't work and doesn't allow you to verify your password. Missed the whole game.
ESPN is dying. Their online services are terrible. Hopefully Amazon/Twitch start going after live sports streaming rights. Twitch kills it with everything else.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on July 15, 2017, 09:59:03 PM
ESPN is dying. Their online services are terrible. Hopefully Amazon/Twitch start going after live sports streaming rights. Twitch kills it with everything else.
I was able to watch early rounds last year, but not sure what the platform was. After it failed to load, my options were "cancel" which closed the app or "retry" which reloaded with the incorrect info. Ridiculous, especially as online is probably more important going forward than cable subscriptions.
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 15, 2017, 09:35:58 PM
Watch ESPN was useless for me. Reset my password, app doesn't work and doesn't allow you to verify your password. Missed the whole game.
Worked perfect for me. You used your provider login right?
https://twitter.com/danieljohnfitz/status/886418436779376641
Should have won by at least 15 against this opponent.
Matthews seat has to be getting warm.
Quote from: barfolomew on July 15, 2017, 10:52:07 PM
Should have won by at least 15 against this opponent.
Matthews seat has to be getting warm.
5 years to judge. We're only in number 2
So we r playing a team who plays in honor of Rick majerus? Even tho he coached with Al?
Was there a reason Trent only played 1 minute?
Quote from: News-Joey dreams MU on July 15, 2017, 10:24:13 PM
Worked perfect for me. You used your provider login right?
Yup, gave me some error. Deleted the app, restarted, and it said something about Spectrum streaming individually. Maybe they don't support apps like that. I watched the games fine a year ago, but I don't think they were on the ESPN app last year.
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 16, 2017, 05:40:35 AM
Yup, gave me some error. Deleted the app, restarted, and it said something about Spectrum streaming individually. Maybe they don't support apps like that. I watched the games fine a year ago, but I don't think they were on the ESPN app last year.
Got that at first as well. But there were several Spectrum combination options so I went to the Time Warner Spectrum option and then it worked fine.
Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on July 16, 2017, 01:13:18 AM
Was there a reason Trent only played 1 minute?
Box Score mistake. He wasn't even there.
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 16, 2017, 05:40:35 AM
Yup, gave me some error. Deleted the app, restarted, and it said something about Spectrum streaming individually. Maybe they don't support apps like that. I watched the games fine a year ago, but I don't think they were on the ESPN app last year.
Are you sure you used the correct spectrum? They haven't combined the user bases yet so there is spectrum bright house, charter, and time Warner.
Quote from: bradley center bat on July 16, 2017, 07:30:25 AM
Box Score mistake. He wasn't even there.
Weird same thing last year. Was on the roster but never showed.
Quote from: real hauserchili 83 on July 15, 2017, 09:44:09 PM
You deserve a doubleheader.
Heel havta drink some of yore special juice four dat, ai na?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 16, 2017, 07:50:39 AM
Heel havta drink some of yore special juice four dat, ai na?
This might be a long shot, but I'm guessing that they don't have any mamajuanna in Peoria.
Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on July 16, 2017, 07:42:41 AM
Are you sure you used the correct spectrum? They haven't combined the user bases yet so there is spectrum bright house, charter, and time Warner.
I used the Time Warner one. No such luck, though that should be right in Milwaukee.
Trent just finished his summer league on Friday. If I had to guess, he may just be staying in Vegas and hope MU wins tonight.
Or he could just no show like last year.
Ha, love the comment about Wes' hot seat.
Quick recap.
- Opponents viewed it like their big opportunity and played very hard and effective at beginning. Made every shot. Built about 10 point lead.
- DJO particularly struggling in 1st half.
- MU finally started going down to DG on the block and he dominated the final 5 minutes
- Second half much more effective all around as team settled into game. Won going away.
- Our alpha dogs, Buycks, Jamil, DG. Especially the first two truly look like they can effectively contribute at NBA level.
- Special shout out to roll players Blackledge, Juan and Chapman. All contributed quality minutes working hard onfloor.
And please excuse typos. I'm on my phone. Chick and I will be back for this afternoon game against SLU.
One other thought. Bradley fans packed the place to watch Always a Brave. Fantastic. MU ought to offer up the Al for next year's first round. We'd do the same. Good for us and the tournament organization.
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 16, 2017, 05:40:35 AM
Yup, gave me some error. Deleted the app, restarted, and it said something about Spectrum streaming individually. Maybe they don't support apps like that. I watched the games fine a year ago, but I don't think they were on the ESPN app last year.
Correct they were streaming with their own TBT site.
Somewhat unrelated but what on earth is Lazar up to these days?
Highlights...SLU Crew only had six yesterday so hopefully MU can use their depth again.
https://youtu.be/_bnKpOfhxwc
Quote from: jHausglow on July 16, 2017, 09:53:34 AM
Ha, love the comment about Wes' hot seat.
Quick recap.
- Opponents viewed it like their big opportunity and played very hard and effective at beginning. Made every shot. Built about 10 point lead.
- DJO particularly struggling in 1st half.
- MU finally started going down to DG on the block and he dominated the final 5 minutes
- Second half much more effective all around as team settled into game. Won going away.
- Our alpha dogs, Buycks, Jamil, DG. Especially the first two truly look like they can effectively contribute at NBA level.
- Special shout out to roll players Blackledge, Juan and Chapman. All contributed quality minutes working hard onfloor.
And please excuse typos. I'm on my phone. Chick and I will be back for this afternoon game against SLU.
I'd vote for the Oxen One as SOTG. Kept us in early with the "and ones" and wore down the MWAS. Guards were ragged for 60% of the game before they turned it on.
Thanks for the updates. Pix? You two hit the casino last night?
No pix. My phone was dying. And we have no need to patronize crappy riverboat casinos. We went to one in Iowa last year only because it was called the "Miss Marquette" and it was one of the most depressing places I have ever visited.
No pics but MU well represented. Maybe 100 fans there to support the boys. Good SLU crowd too. Today should be fun.
Quote from: joeychick on July 16, 2017, 10:59:53 AM
No pix. My phone was dying. And we have no need to patronize crappy riverboat casinos. We went to one in Iowa last year only because it was called the "Miss Marquette" and it was one of the most depressing places I have ever visited.
I like to play craps, but you are right about riverboats being pretty darn depressing. IMHO, the difference between Vegas and a riverboat is that most folks are on vacation to the former and view games of chance as part of having a good time, while most folks at a riverboat in Peoria or E. St. Louis or Aurora are locals who cannot really afford to gamble. The latter creates a sense of desperation, and it is depressing.
As for last night's game ... it was fun watching our lads compete, especially in the second half. Still skeptical of Jamil's NBA prospects, though.
Quote from: PistolPete on July 16, 2017, 10:40:48 AM
Somewhat unrelated but what on earth is Lazar up to these days?
Lazar played in Venezuela this past season.
His team won the America's title last month, as the top squad in South America. The team also had 5'9" Nate Robinson and Damien Wilkins on the squad.
Quote from: MU82 on July 16, 2017, 11:54:52 AM
I like to play craps, but you are right about riverboats being pretty darn depressing. IMHO, the difference between Vegas and a riverboat is that most folks are on vacation to the former and view games of chance as part of having a good time, while most folks at a riverboat in Peoria or E. St. Louis or Aurora are locals who cannot really afford to gamble. The latter creates a sense of desperation, and it is depressing.
As for last night's game ... it was fun watching our lads compete, especially in the second half. Still skeptical of Jamil's NBA prospects, though.
I find many Vegas casinos fairly depressing as well. I go to Vegas almost every year for the final evaluation period, but have never gambled there. Might change that up in a couple weeks tho... (if they have $2 blackjack tables)
Last night was pretty amazing. I think the first half showed how if we're off a little one game, it can be over with real quickly. Eventually we'll face a team with solid depth.. would like to get out and ahead earlier today.
Big Sheesh just owned things for awhile.. then the treys started coming like no other in the second.. Buycks was unconscious. Then DJO went from 'bleh' to dominant.. weird game, really.
....SLU Crew is EVIL and must be DESTROYED....
(http://i.imgur.com/XEv0yPy.jpg)
Team and Individual Advanced Stats are up at LNH:
http://latenighthoops.com/marquette-alumni-tbt-advanced-statistics/#.WWurBoTyvIU (http://latenighthoops.com/marquette-alumni-tbt-advanced-statistics/#.WWurBoTyvIU)
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 16, 2017, 08:30:11 AM
I used the Time Warner one. No such luck, though that should be right in Milwaukee.
I had problems on Friday for about 2 hours. WatchEspn was fine on Saturday and so far today.
Quote from: Jay Bee on July 16, 2017, 01:10:08 PM
Team and Individual Advanced Stats are up at LNH:
http://latenighthoops.com/marquette-alumni-tbt-advanced-statistics/#.WWurBoTyvIU (http://latenighthoops.com/marquette-alumni-tbt-advanced-statistics/#.WWurBoTyvIU)
TIL you can shoot over 100% on efg
Quote from: Jay Bee on July 16, 2017, 12:08:42 PM
I find many Vegas casinos fairly depressing as well. I go to Vegas almost every year for the final evaluation period, but have never gambled there. Might change that up in a couple weeks tho... (if they have $2 blackjack tables)
Last night was pretty amazing. I think the first half showed how if we're off a little one game, it can be over with real quickly. Eventually we'll face a team with solid depth.. would like to get out and ahead earlier today.
Big Sheesh just owned things for awhile.. then the treys started coming like no other in the second.. Buycks was unconscious. Then DJO went from 'bleh' to dominant.. weird game, really.
I admittedly was speaking in generalities about casinos, both Vegas and riverboats. There are many desperate, depressed souls in Vegas, and plenty of happy folk at riverboats.
Agreed about the game. The first half was quite boring to me but the pace picked up nicely in the second. Both Buycks and DJO fired up crazy heat-check 3s, but that's OK. Fun to watch L'il Acker flyin' around the court again.
Wearing the road blues despite being the higher seed. Word is Wes couldn't find enough quarters for the motel washer and dryer! ;D
Billiken fans far outnumber us. There were way more Marquette fans yesterday.
This lady is being especially obnoxious.
Where'd they get these refs? Video review on a charge?
Quote from: joeychick on July 16, 2017, 04:25:42 PM
Billiken fans far outnumber us. There were way more Marquette fans yesterday.
They're still at Pair-a-dice casino
Any way to watch this game?
We are really missing bunnies today
Chick - did you bring an extra sock to stuff in the screamer's mouth?
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on July 16, 2017, 04:45:04 PM
Any way to watch this game?
This weekend only espn3 Watchespn
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 16, 2017, 04:42:05 PM
Where'd they get these refs? Video review on a charge?
Reffing has been atrocious overall.
Score?
A y way to watch?
Quote from: MomofMUltiples on July 16, 2017, 04:49:44 PM
Chick - did you bring an extra sock to stuff in the screamer's mouth?
Unfortunately, no. And I am sad to report that it is a grown woman.
Ox waking up
New low for espn. Cutting to commercial during a free throw
DJO to shoot ft's and commercial break? wtf?
Quote from: joeychick on July 16, 2017, 04:40:22 PM
This lady is being especially obnoxious.
Glenda. Minnesota, represent
Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on July 16, 2017, 05:01:59 PM
New low for espn. Cutting to commercial during a free throw
They know the deal...
#FTsNoMatta
Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on July 16, 2017, 05:01:59 PM
New low for espn. Cutting to commercial during a free throw
Maybe Fs1 hacked them
Yup Fs1 hack technical difficulties now
Streaming def gone
Yo Chick and Glow...start streaming for us Scoopers (or plug ESPN's power cord back in).
The Watch ESPN app is garbage
We must have missed a bunch because suddenly Marquette is up 40-32 at the half.
Back on to a SLU buzzer beater. MU musta switched to their breathable Fruit of the Looms as they made a nice run during the outage. Now we get to watch these commercials again.
Half time 38-33 good guys.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 16, 2017, 05:07:55 PM
Yo Chick and Glow...start streaming for us Scoopers (or plug ESPN's power cord back in).
Yeah, streaming just got back guess we missed the best of MU play and give up the last sec shot per normal MU half. Chick did you unplug espn's power cord to charge your phone?
LOL I Mama Jett is calling Davante fat. Because her son is so skinny.
They can't even keep score right? Said 31-40 guess they credited MU for SLU's basket.
Quote from: News-Joey dreams MU on July 16, 2017, 05:14:18 PM
Yeah, streaming just got back guess we missed the best of MU play and give up the last sec shot per normal MU half. Chick did you unplug espn's power cord to charge your phone?
My bad, fellas.
ETA : and Mom.
Heard the color commentator is apparently being super anti-MU. What has he been saying?
Quote from: joeychick on July 16, 2017, 05:16:57 PM
My bad, fellas.
Chick who step up for MU we were like 5 down when streaming went MIA
Quote from: ChitownJHaus on July 16, 2017, 05:17:22 PM
Heard the color commentator is apparently being super anti-MU. What has he been saying?
I don't know, but they talked at length to Brian Wardle during the previous game...
Quote from: ChitownJHaus on July 16, 2017, 05:17:22 PM
Heard the color commentator is apparently being super anti-MU. What has he been saying?
He doesn't like MU's chirping at the refs. He loves the Dancing Bear. Yesterday, he never heard of the term "heat check"...today he has used it multiple times.
Where is the "automatic" chant today, Glows?
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 16, 2017, 05:28:44 PM
Where is the "automatic" chant today, Glows?
Yesterday he missed a couple and chants stopped
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 16, 2017, 05:28:44 PM
Where is the "automatic" chant today, Glows?
It didn't work yesterday so we've all refrained.
Completely irrelevant but the bracket looks the exact same as the bracket for the tournament in Karate Kid. Now come on fellas, sweep the leg!
And the travel by Wilson
Playing to lose now
Seems like we've been shooting lots of FT's but SLU shows 0 fouls in the score box.
Quote from: MomofMUltiples on July 16, 2017, 05:37:51 PM
Seems like we've been shooting lots of FT's but SLU shows 0 fouls in the score box.
The bonus resets at the 9 minute mark.
Ft's no matta
Quote from: Jay Bee on July 16, 2017, 05:03:51 PM
They know the deal...
#FTsNoMatta
This made me laugh.
And the ESPN stream freezes again...time for another MU run
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 16, 2017, 05:28:44 PM
Where is the "automatic" chant today, Glows?
Wasn't accurate so we stopped..
Can't say enough about Juan's contribution. Grinder.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 16, 2017, 05:45:55 PM
And the ESPN stream freezes again...time for another MU run
Working for me and yes an MU run
The color guy just said "ah that's bull shyt" on the Juando out of bounds play. Replay proved him wrong. Don't think he will be making to trek to the Sweet 16.
Score plz
Jamil rolls ankle attempting monster dunk. walking it off.
MU
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on July 16, 2017, 05:50:54 PM
Score plz
Sorry...between freezes I forgot to update you. MU 73-64
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 16, 2017, 05:53:30 PM
Sorry...between freezes I forgot to update you. MU 73-64
Thx how much time
MU gone cold. 73-67 with 2:00. Gardner just fouled
81-70 Marquette final
Where you at now Lunardi?
Also, this is phenomenal.
https://twitter.com/mubbnation/status/886712145475510272
Next victim??
Date Location time?
Thx
Quote from: We R Joey to MU on July 16, 2017, 06:04:44 PM
Next victim??
Date Location time?
Thx
@JBBauer612
Looks like ~1pm CT Saturday for #mubb vs K-State in the #TBT2017 Sweet 16. 81-70 final. #NoSleepTilBrooklyn
ESPN
Quote from: ChitownJHaus on July 16, 2017, 06:01:12 PM
Also, this is phenomenal.
https://twitter.com/mubbnation/status/886712145475510272
LOL we were sitting two rows behind that guy. He was being a complete a-hole.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 16, 2017, 05:50:10 PM
The color guy just said "ah that's bull shyt" on the Juando out of bounds play. Replay proved him wrong. Don't think he will be making to trek to the Sweet 16.
Yeah he was... not good.
Quote from: Jay Bee on July 16, 2017, 06:11:12 PM
@JBBauer612
Looks like ~1pm CT Saturday for #mubb vs K-State in the #TBT2017 Sweet 16. 81-70 final. #NoSleepTilBrooklyn
ESPN
I hope we have somebody who can guard Michael Beasley this time. I don't want to see our seeding hurt again.
We can finally avenge our scrimmage loss to K-State!
Loved the end with Lil Bit
https://youtu.be/fohsyclNies
Dwight had a tough game today. Better in NYC hoping.
Quote from: ChitownJHaus on July 16, 2017, 06:01:12 PM
Also, this is phenomenal.
https://twitter.com/mubbnation/status/886712145475510272
Jamil was great at talking smack this weekend. Glad I could make it up for the game yesterday. Even better that we won today!
Some seriously fun hoops down in Peoria. It was sure nice to see our guys playing together. They absolutely noticed the extreme SLU fans trash talking. And they certainly appreciated our support over the two days and dishing it right back at the SLU folks.
Finished the evening with a nice chat with Mama Jett. This was the first time she had seen her son play in person since college and really enjoyed herself. Her line of the night (to DJO as he missed a free throw), "This ain't the Lakers now." Good stuff; nice lady.
Juan was outstanding - he can't play any better. Davante and Trend also showed up.
Buycks played about as un-NBA-ish as possible. Quite horrible. Let's not crown his arse yet! Jamil was meh, too.
Except for the fairly long outage in the first half and a brief one in the second, I had no problems watching. I watched on my big plasma screen through Roku.
TV for this tournament definitely is a low-budget operation. They showed few replays, and by the time they flashed their TBT logo and actually got into and out of a replay, the game would be going on again. The announcing was quite awful.
I didn't think the refs were that bad, especially given that these are little more than exhibitions; they did their jobs at least as well as most players and coaches did, and they did it much better than the announcers did.
Wow ... I just wrote too damn much about the effen TBT! I guess it's summer and I like my MU fix. Looking forward to next weekend.
Quote from: ChitownJHaus on July 16, 2017, 06:01:12 PM
Also, this is phenomenal.
https://twitter.com/mubbnation/status/886712145475510272
Glad a Badger troll could chime in and take shots.
We talked to a guy in a Billiken shirt who said that his father was a huge Marquette fan and named him after Bo Ellis. Never found out what his full name was, or why he ended up at SLU.
Quote from: joeychick on July 17, 2017, 01:18:09 PM
We talked to a guy in a Billiken shirt who said that his father was a huge Marquette fan and named him after Bo Ellis. Never found out what his full name was, or why he ended up at SLU.
He heard MU was going full SLU and wanted to beat the rush
Quote from: joeychick on July 17, 2017, 01:18:09 PM
We talked to a guy in a Billiken shirt who said that his father was a huge Marquette fan and named him after Bo Ellis. Never found out what his full name was, or why he ended up at SLU.
building on the song lyrics from Brandy last week;
"
Some people call him Maurice
Cause he speaks of the pompitous of love"
Starting time change to 2 but it didn't say if ct or et
Quote from: News-Joey dreams MU on July 17, 2017, 08:33:19 PM
Starting time change to 2 but it didn't say if ct or et
Starting time didn't change, was always approximately 1pm CT, but first email sent out had bad date so they went with a "time change" msg.
Game 2 of the day. Game 1 tips st 11am CT
Startin' time no matta, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 18, 2017, 07:47:00 AM
Startin' time no matta, hey?
It's all about a nice finish, ainer?
Yes, happy endin', hey?
Quote from: ChitownJHaus on July 16, 2017, 06:00:31 PM
Where you at now Lunardi?
What did Lunardi do?
I saw someone on that Jamil vid link comment about Lunardi too
Quote from: HausersHeroes32 on July 19, 2017, 09:41:08 AM
What did Lunardi do?
I saw someone on that Jamil vid link comment about Lunardi too
Said we'd lose in the first or second rounds and was basically getting hot and heavy over SLU
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on July 19, 2017, 09:45:18 AM
Said we'd lose in the first or second rounds and was basically getting hot and heavy over SLU
Just like the obnoxious SLU fans that went home with their tails between their legs.
Look, I have no idea how far our guys will go. But the overall talent differential down in Peoria was plainly noticeable. Up to some point, this is more about the energy and effort our guys bring on a given day. I was never concerned that we'd lose either game. Could it have happened? Sure, like one in twenty times.
Quote from: jHausglow on July 19, 2017, 10:24:50 AM
Just like the obnoxious SLU fans that went home with their tails between their legs.
A number of those obnoxious fans told us at the start of the game that they had already purchased plane tickets to Brooklyn. For their sake, I hope they booked on Southwest so that they can get a credit for them.
Quote from: jHausglow on July 19, 2017, 10:24:50 AM
Just like the obnoxious SLU fans that went home with their tails between their legs.
Look, I have no idea how far our guys will go. But the overall talent differential down in Peoria was plainly noticeable. Up to some point, this is more about the energy and effort our guys bring on a given day. I was never concerned that we'd lose either game. Could it have happened? Sure, like one in twenty times.
So we haven't become like St. Louis yet?
GAME DAY
Yurnt
Good hard fought game so far. K State has sone inside strength . We are going to need to hit some threes.
Our offense has gone cold
Jamil should keep chucking n bricking 3s
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on July 22, 2017, 01:46:46 PM
Jamil should keep chucking n bricking 3s
Luke and JJJ graduated so I guess you need someone to irrationally hate.
If anyone should stop shooting it should be Rell.
Up 40-39 at half. Good quality game. Davante and DJO playing well. We need Dwight Buycks and Jerel to play like they did the first two games. Lots of hustle plays by Juan and Trend are helping.
True we really need Buycks
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on July 22, 2017, 01:46:46 PM
Jamil should keep chucking n bricking 3s
Well if you paid attention Matthews "coach" told him to keep on shooting until he got in rhythm.
Nm double post
Bad start and they're raining 3's
K-State doing all the complaining, and we're just playing hard and getting the calls
Score?
60-55 bad guys they have ball 10 mins 63-55
65-64 bad guys we got ball 8 mins
DJO playing with defensive intensity all game. Reminds me of the old days.
Juan Anderson is so bad at basketball.
Quote from: hdog1017 on July 22, 2017, 02:29:39 PM
Juan Anderson is so bad at basketball.
He has had some nice hustle plays today.
Quote from: hdog1017 on July 22, 2017, 02:29:39 PM
Juan Anderson is so bad at basketball.
He's been decent today. Gave Pullen some fits earlier.
DJO doing work on the defensive end right now.
Quote from: ChitownJHaus on July 22, 2017, 02:39:55 PM
DJO doing work on the defensive end right now.
I agree with this analysis .
Love that Dwayne Buycks
Survive and advance. Sure wasn't pretty though.
Side note, wouldn't mind Chapman or somebody else give Aaron Craft an elbow to the face.
W?
Win!
What happened to that late game scoring rule change? Was that only for the preliminary rounds?
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 22, 2017, 04:32:11 PM
What happened to that late game scoring rule change? Was that only for the preliminary rounds?
Yea, just the play in games.
Juan anderson was actually fine. Struggles to defend bigs but his length and hustled helped to win the game.
The guy that was horrible was jamil, never went inside the three point line, hesitated on everything. Gave up offensive rebounds to his man left and right. His stupid isolations during winning time almost gave it away. Thanfully wes finally put devante in for him n they sealed the game, about 4 posessions after they should have but if ur gonna kill the clock then feed DG as ksu had zero answer
Jamil had a rough game. He shot 3/11, 3/9 of beyond the 3PT line. He didn't really rebound either. Gardner continues to be strong in the post and nearly automatic from the FT line. He shot 10/11 from FT.
I thought DJO was stud of the game for his defense and Davante honorable mention for his strong offense.
Recap and video
https://www.thetournament.com/bracket/game-49
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on July 22, 2017, 06:27:38 PM
I thought DJO was stud of the game for his defense and Davante honorable mention for his strong offense.
TBT made the ESPN scrawl last night, and they mentioned Davante's 20 points and 6 rebounds.
Next game is????
Today. No idea when
Quote from: real hauserchili 83 on July 23, 2017, 08:33:47 AM
Next game is????
Today at Noon EDT, vs Scarlet & Gray (Ohio State ) on ESPN
Here we go. I still get nervous when Gardner puts one up from three. And deservedly so as it bricked off.
Jared Sullinger should not be playing in this tournament.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on July 23, 2017, 08:47:51 AM
Today at Noon EDT, vs Scarlet & Gray (Ohio State ) on ESPN
Full Service, Thank You.
Down 5 despite poor shooting.
Play ragged. Hero ball. OSU attacking boards.
Gettin ugly
Looks like the end of the road. Hopefully they can make a run but it's not looking pretty.
Down 12 right now.
OSU group too physical for the MU guys. Getting overwhelmed and reverting to one and one stuff.
The Thad Matta All-Stars are in domination mode.
Hopefully OSU actual team doesn't dominate us like this should we play them.
Because that game will be in the NIT at best
Quote from: HausersHeroes32 on July 23, 2017, 12:13:08 PM
Hopefully OSU actual team doesn't dominate us like this should we play them.
Because that game will be in the NIT at best
Don't think that tOSU is going to make any post season tourneys this upcoming season.
Quote from: Nukem2 on July 23, 2017, 12:19:12 PM
Don't think that tOSU is going to make any post season tourneys this upcoming season.
Yeah I was being really generous giving them a NIT chance
MU cannot win in NY on national TV
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 23, 2017, 12:34:31 PM
MU cannot win in NY on national TV
Is Wes on the hot seat?
The best part of today was all the interviews with Jen Hale. It would be nice if we could get her on Fox Sports. Smart and Sexy.
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on July 23, 2017, 12:44:55 PM
The best part of today was all the interviews with Jen Hale. It would be nice if we could get her on Fox Sports. Smart and Sexy.
Looks like a dude dressed in drag, imo
+1.
Love to see Luke on this team in the future. He'd be better suited to defend in a system where he can mostly stay home and protect the rim like he did in 2015. It would also be nice to have a two way big, since our other bigs (Burke, Blackledge, Gardner) are really only effective on one end.
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 23, 2017, 02:56:20 PM
Love to see Luke on this team in the future. He'd be better suited to defend in a system where he can mostly stay home and protect the rim like he did in 2015. It would also be nice to have a two way big, since our other bigs (Burke, Blackledge, Gardner) are really only effective on one end.
Why not bring in someone from outside of MU? Others do.
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 23, 2017, 02:56:20 PM
Love to see Luke on this team in the future. He'd be better suited to defend in a system where he can mostly stay home and protect the rim like he did in 2015. It would also be nice to have a two way big, since our other bigs (Burke, Blackledge, Gardner) are really only effective on one end.
Luke would be a big plus and do well in this tournament.
Quote from: Nukem2 on July 23, 2017, 02:59:00 PM
Why not bring in someone from outside of MU? Others do.
They definitely could. But as we haven't yet, not sure they will. Luke's one of the few from our alumni base that would fit what we need, and it will probably be 5-6 years before we see difference makers eligible.
Though I suppose they could give a look to Trevor Mbakwe and Jameel McKay, if they want to keep it (sort of) in the family...
If Diener's coming back why didn't he play in this tournament? Could have used some shooting...
I was going to say that out loss today was going to hurt recruiting but...
Quote from: TSmith34 on July 23, 2017, 07:50:26 PMI was going to say that out loss today was going to hurt recruiting but...
I'd say just the opposite. Having a Marquette alumni team in TBT (coached by a current NBA player in Wes Matthews) is great exposure for the MU program and the university. We also advanced to the Midwest regional final two years in a row. I'd say that's a pretty strong on-court performance.
Prolly why we got Joey!!
Anyone know why trent Lockett didn't play?
Quote from: Marcus92 on July 23, 2017, 10:13:20 PM
I'd say just the opposite. Having a Marquette alumni team in TBT (coached by a current NBA player in Wes Matthews) is great exposure for the MU program and the university. We also advanced to the Midwest regional final two years in a row. I'd say that's a pretty strong on-court performance.
My statement was unstated teal
I don't think how the TBT is performing has any impact on recruiting whatsoever. It's a pick up basketball game played by alumni who aren't good enough to make the NBA and is only on television because it's July.
Quote from: Sultan of Slap O' Fivin' on July 24, 2017, 09:53:36 AM
I don't think how the TBT is performing has any impact on recruiting whatsoever. It's a pick up basketball game played by alumni who aren't good enough to make the NBA and is only on television because it's July.
Oh sure it does. Recruits were watching this and any positive exposure for the program is a good thing. Is it going to be a deciding factor for a recruit? Hell no. It was as tiny of an impact as an impact can be, but it is still a positive.
Quote from: Sultan of Slap O' Fivin' on July 24, 2017, 09:53:36 AM
I don't think how the TBT is performing has any impact on recruiting whatsoever. It's a pick up basketball game played by alumni who aren't good enough to make the NBA and is only on television because it's July.
That awkward moment three of the players on our team have played in the NBA.
Like TAMU said, players watch this and while it's not massive yet and likely won't ever be on par with the NBA or CBB it's something basketball fans (like those were recruiting) would watch and anything putting our brand out there is a positive.
Also, while our university support of the TBT team has been nice, it sounds like both Syracuse and Ohio State had minicamps for their alumni teams as well. We may have been one of the first, but it's becoming fairly common, it seems.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on July 24, 2017, 10:24:46 AM
That awkward moment three of the players on our team have played in the NBA.
What teams are they currently playing for? That was his point. They're not good enough to make the NBA right now.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 24, 2017, 10:17:31 AM
Oh sure it does. Recruits were watching this and any positive exposure for the program is a good thing. Is it going to be a deciding factor for a recruit? Hell no. It was as tiny of an impact as an impact can be, but it is still a positive.
IOW, it's simply not a negative.
Quote from: TSmith34 on July 24, 2017, 08:13:16 AMMy statement was unstated teal
With so many posters here who take every loss as if it's the end of the world, it can be difficult to tell the difference sometimes.
Weak student support in Brooklyn did us in, ainar?
TBT's main audience is college basketball diehards who are dying for a chance to watch their favorite sport (or at least something close to it) in the offseason. Maybe some recruits, probably current players. Casual fans could care less.
Last summer, for example, the championship game of The Basketball Tournament drew 344,000 viewers — compared with 23 million viewers for the 2017 NCAA championship game.
So the impact right now is minimal. But it's still national exposure for Marquette basketball and the university on ESPN. Every little bit helps. Anytime we're mentioned alongside schools like Gonzaga, Ohio State, Syracuse and Villanova, it's a good thing. Plus, TBT is only in its fourth year and still growing.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on July 24, 2017, 10:24:46 AM
That awkward moment three of the players on our team have played in the NBA.
The last one was...what...over two years ago? Nothing awkward at all about my statement.
Quote from: Sultan of Slap O' Fivin' on July 24, 2017, 11:10:21 AM
The last one was...what...over two years ago? Nothing awkward at all about my statement.
So what if it was two years ago they were still good enough to get a cup of coffee which is more than most get. Now had you said at this point or be more thanbench players in the NBA you'd have a point.
I'm just arguing that there's plenty of guys in that tournament who have been NBA players in the past.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on July 24, 2017, 11:15:09 AM
So what if it was two years ago they were still good enough to get a cup of coffee which is more than most get. Now had you said at this point or be more thanbench players in the NBA you'd have a point.
I'm just arguing that there's plenty of guys in that tournament who have been NBA players in the past.
My statement was "aren't good enough to make the NBA." That is a present tense statement.
I'm curious to see what TBT looks like in another few years if the prize money continues to increase.
Two years ago it was $500,000. Then $1 million. Then $2 million. If organizers can get that into the $5-10 million range (or bigger), you could see a lot more interest from current NBA players. For someone making the league minimum — between $600,000 and $1.6 million this upcoming season — the chance to double your yearly earnings could be a strong incentive.
Once you have NBA players in the mix, TBT could really start to generate some attention. Maybe the NBA actually gets behind it as an offseason marketing tool.
And what happens if top players like Lebron or Steph Curry decide to join in? Like a professional AAU league. Their participation could drive viewership through the roof, possibly justifying a prize pool of $50+ million (on the level of the World Series of Poker today). They're working out and playing pickup ball in the offseason, anyway. Why not play a handful of games with your friends for a chance to earn a few extra million?
Quote from: Marcus92 on July 24, 2017, 12:51:43 PM
I'm curious to see what TBT looks like in another few years if the prize money continues to increase.
Two years ago it was $500,000. Then $1 million. Then $2 million. If organizers can get that into the $5-10 million range (or bigger), you could see a lot more interest from current NBA players. For someone making the league minimum — between $600,000 and $1.6 million this upcoming season — the chance to double your yearly earnings could be a strong incentive.
Once you have NBA players in the mix, TBT could really start to generate some attention. Maybe the NBA actually gets behind it as an offseason marketing tool.
And what happens if top players like Lebron or Steph Curry decide to join in? Like a professional AAU league. Their participation could drive viewership through the roof, possibly justifying a prize pool of $50+ million (on the level of the World Series of Poker today). They're working out and playing pickup ball in the offseason, anyway. Why not play a handful of games with your friends for a chance to earn a few extra million?
1) The team gets 90% of the $2M to split, not individually. The players would get about $100k-150k. Not bad, but not NBA money.
2) The NBA has their Summer League as a marketing tool and it includes current NBA lottery picks. They're not interested in an exhibition tournament of potential 12th men.
3) I'm guessing that big money NBA players would have it in their contracts that they can't play in this type of exhibition, not that they would anyway. It'd be a no-win situation.
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on July 23, 2017, 12:44:55 PM
The best part of today was all the interviews with Jen Hale. It would be nice if we could get her on Fox Sports. Smart and Sexy.
Yeah, she sounded really smart when she referred to Davante as a "rim protector."
To be a rim protector, don't you have to be able to at least touch the rim?
The guy had 45 blocks in 4 years ... and frankly I was surprised it was that many!
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on July 24, 2017, 01:11:19 PM
3) I'm guessing that big money NBA players would have it in their contracts that they can't play in this type of exhibition, not that they would anyway. It'd be a no-win situation.
I'd bet even the low-money NBA players probably have it in their contracts... there might even be some sort of ban to that effect in the collective bargaining agreement.
Quote from: Benny B on July 24, 2017, 04:16:24 PMI'd bet even the low-money NBA players probably have it in their contracts... there might even be some sort of ban to that effect in the collective bargaining agreement.
The NBA and the players association came to an agreement on the Olympics. The players don't even get paid for that (outside of endorsements). And the league recognized that it was an incredible opportunity to market the NBA worldwide.
If enough players like Lebron decided they wanted to participate in an informal tournament like the TBT, I think the commissioner would find a way to help make it happen. The NBA might even invest in TBT or buy it outright. It could mean huge ratings (and broadcast rights) for the league during a time of the year when they're barely generating any revenue.
I'm not saying it's going to happen. Purely hypothetical. But I could see it if the interest is there and the money is right for all parties involved.
Quote from: Marcus92 on July 24, 2017, 04:29:08 PM
The NBA and the players association came to an agreement on the Olympics. The players don't even get paid for that (outside of endorsements). And the league recognized that it was an incredible opportunity to market the NBA worldwide.
If enough players like Lebron decided they wanted to participate in an informal tournament like the TBT, I think the commissioner would find a way to help make it happen. The NBA might even invest in TBT or buy it outright. It could mean huge ratings (and broadcast rights) for the league during a time of the year when they're barely generating any revenue.
I'm not saying it's going to happen. Purely hypothetical. But I could see it if the interest is there and the money is right for all parties involved.
I think you think more of the TBT than even the TBT organizers do.
A few scattered thoughts on the TBT's Golden Eagles ...
When we couldn't get a fastbreak going or couldn't get the ball in to Davante, our offense was pretty frustrating to watch all tournament long. Our guards would just dribble awhile and then jack up a shot. Sometimes it went in, but often it didn't. When Davante wasn't involved, it was kind of a "worst of the NBA" offense much of the time.
Buycks apparently did well during the summer league. I didn't see one second of it, so I'll take others' word on it. But I did see all 4 TBT games, and he was mostly bad, and occasionally awful. If I had to take one MU guard based on the TBT, it would have been DJO. He was tough on D and he made some big shots. Buycks mostly dribbled between his legs for 15 seconds and then chucked up fade-away 3-pointers. He didn't go to the hoop very often and hardly ever set up his teammates. I was amazed he spent any time in the NBA when he got up there last time, and I'd be amazed again if anybody would take him.
Though I've doubted Jamil has a real chance at the NBA, in part because I don't think he's as good an athlete as his body type would suggest, I do think that if he could be a 40% 3-point shooter some team would find a spot for him. He's a good enough athlete to hang in against many NBAers, and every team needs shooting. His stroke looked good, even when the shots didn't go in. I can see why the Clippers are taking a flier on him.
Loved watching Davante's work in the first 3 games. Still so fun to watch. But given that Sullinger pretty much dominated him, I'm guessing that Dirk still isn't in fear of Davante.
Along with Buycks, pretty unimpressed with Jerel and can see why he hasn't gotten a sniff from the NBA. Yet another example of a very good college player who isn't good enough for the NBA. This just in: It's hard to be a pro!
Aside from Davante and DJO, I was most impressed with three role players: Mo, Juan and Trend. Watching Trend in this tournament, I'm surprised he could hardly get on the court during his time at MU. I really don't remember much about his time there. Was he hurt? Or could he simply not play back then? Too skinny maybe? He has length and pretty darn good timing on defense, and his shot isn't bad. Mo helped the team every time he was on the court, and Juan definitely provided a spark.
Quote from: Sultan of Slap O' Fivin' on July 24, 2017, 04:31:20 PMI think you think more of the TBT than even the TBT organizers do.
I totally recognize what the TBT is right now — summer filler for ESPN. Like I pointed out above, the audience is about 1% of the NCAA championship. That's peanuts. And TBT might never be anything more. But I see a spark of potential, depending on a number of factors.
Fan interestThink about the McGregor-Mayweather fight. It's just an exhibition match. There's no title at stake. But it's happening for one reason and one reason only: because fight fans are willing to pay big dollars to see it happen.
Player interestTop NBA players like Lebron want to control their own destinies. Lebron has acted like a GM in both Miami and his return to Cleveland. Remember the 2011 lockout, when stars like Kobe and Lebron played exhibitions in LA and other cities? For TBT to become big money, you'd have to have the best players. So the best players could set the terms and have total control.
League interestTeam owners are all about maximizing revenue. If there's extra money somewhere in it for them, they'll find a way to make it happen.
Again, all complete hypothetical meandering just to kill time until the season starts.
Get Lavar Ball to promote it.
Im not even kidding. You mentioned McGregor and Mayweather, the only reason this works is because they're two giant personalities. I cant stand Lavar but the guy is really effing smart and an incredible marketer.
Don't some NBA players already play in summer Pro Am leagues (i.e. Drew League in LA)?
Quote from: MU82 on July 24, 2017, 04:45:28 PM
A few scattered thoughts on the TBT's Golden Eagles ...
When we couldn't get a fastbreak going or couldn't get the ball in to Davante, our offense was pretty frustrating to watch all tournament long. Our guards would just dribble awhile and then jack up a shot. Sometimes it went in, but often it didn't. When Davante wasn't involved, it was kind of a "worst of the NBA" offense much of the time.
Buycks apparently did well during the summer league. I didn't see one second of it, so I'll take others' word on it. But I did see all 4 TBT games, and he was mostly bad, and occasionally awful. If I had to take one MU guard based on the TBT, it would have been DJO. He was tough on D and he made some big shots. Buycks mostly dribbled between his legs for 15 seconds and then chucked up fade-away 3-pointers. He didn't go to the hoop very often and hardly ever set up his teammates. I was amazed he spent any time in the NBA when he got up there last time, and I'd be amazed again if anybody would take him.
Though I've doubted Jamil has a real chance at the NBA, in part because I don't think he's as good an athlete as his body type would suggest, I do think that if he could be a 40% 3-point shooter some team would find a spot for him. He's a good enough athlete to hang in against many NBAers, and every team needs shooting. His stroke looked good, even when the shots didn't go in. I can see why the Clippers are taking a flier on him.
Loved watching Davante's work in the first 3 games. Still so fun to watch. But given that Sullinger pretty much dominated him, I'm guessing that Dirk still isn't in fear of Davante.
Along with Buycks, pretty unimpressed with Jerel and can see why he hasn't gotten a sniff from the NBA. Yet another example of a very good college player who isn't good enough for the NBA. This just in: It's hard to be a pro!
Aside from Davante and DJO, I was most impressed with three role players: Mo, Juan and Trend. Watching Trend in this tournament, I'm surprised he could hardly get on the court during his time at MU. I really don't remember much about his time there. Was he hurt? Or could he simply not play back then? Too skinny maybe? He has length and pretty darn good timing on defense, and his shot isn't bad. Mo helped the team every time he was on the court, and Juan definitely provided a spark.
I watched Buycks in summer league and he was a totally different player than we he showed in TBT. That is too bad because I think there where scouts at TBT and he could have helped his own cause if he could have even played as well as he did the first game of the TBT.
I watched Jamil in summer league and he was spectacular. He had a very specific role to play D and shoot open 3s or feed the inside and he did all that well. It sounded like Wes was pushing Jamil to take a more aggressive offensive posture in TBT, although I think he still showed a low of good things. He has definitely earned a real shot a training camp and hopefully the two way contract will result in him getting some time this year in the league.
I would still like to see DJO get one last at in the NBA somewhere as a point guard. He works so hard on the defensive end and really hustles. He would be great somewhere as a dependable back up.
The rest of our team ,especially Davante and Acker , were very fun to watch.
Quote from: MU82 on July 24, 2017, 04:45:28 PM
A few scattered thoughts on the TBT's Golden Eagles ...
When we couldn't get a fastbreak going or couldn't get the ball in to Davante, our offense was pretty frustrating to watch all tournament long. Our guards would just dribble awhile and then jack up a shot. Sometimes it went in, but often it didn't. When Davante wasn't involved, it was kind of a "worst of the NBA" offense much of the time.
Buycks apparently did well during the summer league. I didn't see one second of it, so I'll take others' word on it. But I did see all 4 TBT games, and he was mostly bad, and occasionally awful. If I had to take one MU guard based on the TBT, it would have been DJO. He was tough on D and he made some big shots. Buycks mostly dribbled between his legs for 15 seconds and then chucked up fade-away 3-pointers. He didn't go to the hoop very often and hardly ever set up his teammates. I was amazed he spent any time in the NBA when he got up there last time, and I'd be amazed again if anybody would take him.
Though I've doubted Jamil has a real chance at the NBA, in part because I don't think he's as good an athlete as his body type would suggest, I do think that if he could be a 40% 3-point shooter some team would find a spot for him. He's a good enough athlete to hang in against many NBAers, and every team needs shooting. His stroke looked good, even when the shots didn't go in. I can see why the Clippers are taking a flier on him.
Loved watching Davante's work in the first 3 games. Still so fun to watch. But given that Sullinger pretty much dominated him, I'm guessing that Dirk still isn't in fear of Davante.
Along with Buycks, pretty unimpressed with Jerel and can see why he hasn't gotten a sniff from the NBA. Yet another example of a very good college player who isn't good enough for the NBA. This just in: It's hard to be a pro!
Aside from Davante and DJO, I was most impressed with three role players: Mo, Juan and Trend. Watching Trend in this tournament, I'm surprised he could hardly get on the court during his time at MU. I really don't remember much about his time there. Was he hurt? Or could he simply not play back then? Too skinny maybe? He has length and pretty darn good timing on defense, and his shot isn't bad. Mo helped the team every time he was on the court, and Juan definitely provided a spark.
Good post. Small note, Jerel did play in the NBA. Not good enough at this point, but he did play in 6 games in 2015
Quote from: MUeagle1090 on July 25, 2017, 09:20:07 AM
Good post. Small note, Jerel did play in the NBA. Not good enough at this point, but he did play in 6 games in 2015
Thanks. I sit corrected.
I thought they showed a graphic on the screen of one of the games highlighting some of the rules for TBT and I thought one of them was that current NBA players were not allowed. I could be completely wrong on that though.