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Title: was never a fan of...
Post by: rocket surgeon on May 30, 2017, 08:41:19 PM
  oprah, until i saw this-

http://pagesix.com/2017/05/24/oprah-winfrey-staged-an-intervention-for-jamie-foxx/

  she not only saved jaime's career, his dignity, self-worth, but most importantly his life.  i may not agree with her politics, but this was above and beyond.  this is what humans do for other humans.  it takes a lot of courage to do this for someone.  she realized that she was probably one of the few who could this pull off. 
good luck and hang in there mr. fox and good on ya oprah!
Title: Re: was never a fan of...
Post by: warriorchick on May 30, 2017, 09:27:10 PM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 30, 2017, 08:41:19 PM
    i may not agree with her politics, but this was above and beyond.  this is what humans do for other humans.

You realize that these two sentences contradict each other.

And even after all her millions of dollars of philanthropy, mentoring of young girls, etc., this is the one thing that makes you a fan?

Don't get me wrong; she has her flaws, including being an insufferable self-promoter, but what she did for Jaime Foxx is far from being her only admirable act. 
Title: Re: was never a fan of...
Post by: rocket surgeon on May 31, 2017, 05:07:25 AM
Quote from: warriorchick on May 30, 2017, 09:27:10 PM
You realize that these two sentences contradict each other.

And even after all her millions of dollars of philanthropy, mentoring of young girls, etc., this is the one thing that makes you a fan?

Don't get me wrong; she has her flaws, including being an insufferable self-promoter, but what she did for Jaime Foxx is far from being her only admirable act.

ok, let's try this again.  when i heard she did this for jaime fox, i thought it was very self-less.  it was an act that made me forget about her politics and put them aside.  as i have not been a fan of hers prior to reading this, i have been unaware of all the other "good" stuff she has done.  so to answer your question-yes, this was the one thing that just now, made me stop and take notice(please amend from "being a fan").   i don't follow nor care about her philanthropy and young girl mentoring.  not saying it isn't "good", but with all her money, who knows what her motivations are.  what she did for jaime really had nothing to do with money.  it came from her heart and i find that more admirable than writing a check of sending some of her people out to take some young girls to the zoo or something.

look we can pick this apart and find something i may be missing or inconsistent, but bottom line-i don't like oprah, i don't like her politics. as you said, she is a huge self-promoter and from other stuff i've read, she is a real "beach" behind the scenes...whatever...so when i read this story about her, i thought it deserved recognition despite her not being in my top 100 of admirable people. 

Title: Re: was never a fan of...
Post by: GGGG on May 31, 2017, 05:51:02 AM
Lol you are something rocket.

"I don't like anything about this woman including her charity, which may have ulterior motives, but look at this!!"
Title: Re: was never a fan of...
Post by: Anti-Dentite on May 31, 2017, 06:34:18 AM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 31, 2017, 05:07:25 AM
ok, let's try this again.  when i heard she did this for jaime fox, i thought it was very self-less. as i have not been a fan of hers prior to reading this, i have been unaware of all the other "good" stuff she has done.  so to answer your question-yes, this was the one thing that just now, made me stop and take notice
There, fixed it for you. You have this unique ability to twist yourself into knots.
Title: Re: was never a fan of...
Post by: reinko on May 31, 2017, 07:06:08 AM
A billionaire helps a millionaire with an intervention with other millionaires equals charity.

A billionaire gives away over $40 million to poor kids in around the world, ULTERIOR MOTIVES!!!


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Title: Re: was never a fan of...
Post by: warriorchick on May 31, 2017, 08:06:01 AM

YOU GET AN INTERVENTION!
YOU GET AN INTERVENTION!
YOU GET AN INTERVENTION!
EVERYBODY GETS AN INTERVENTION!


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Title: Re: was never a fan of...
Post by: mu03eng on May 31, 2017, 08:20:17 AM
This thread is going places, Imma keep my eye on it.

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Title: Re: was never a fan of...
Post by: real chili 83 on May 31, 2017, 08:41:23 AM
Quote from: mu03eng on May 31, 2017, 08:20:17 AM
This thread is going places, Imma keep my eye on it.

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^^^^^this
Title: Re: was never a fan of...
Post by: rocket surgeon on May 31, 2017, 12:10:46 PM
Quote from: Sultan of Slap O' Fivin' on May 31, 2017, 05:51:02 AM
Lol you are something rocket.

"I don't like anything about this woman including her charity, which may have ulterior motives, but look at this!!"

coming from mr. contrarian-is that how you interpret what i said?  go with it, i guess ?-(
Title: Re: was never a fan of...
Post by: rocket surgeon on May 31, 2017, 12:12:35 PM
Quote from: reinko on May 31, 2017, 07:06:08 AM
A billionaire helps a millionaire with an intervention with other millionaires equals charity.

A billionaire gives away over $40 million to poor kids in around the world, ULTERIOR MOTIVES!!!


(https://m.popkey.co/d1c7e1/VoEyV.gif)
(http://reactiongifs.me/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/oprah-what-gif-oh-really.gif)(http://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2016027/rs_500x255-160127120034-sass2.gif)

nope!  didn't say this either, but get back in line and give 'er another shot, 'ey?
Title: Re: was never a fan of...
Post by: rocket surgeon on May 31, 2017, 12:14:06 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on May 31, 2017, 08:06:01 AM
YOU GET AN INTERVENTION!
YOU GET AN INTERVENTION!
YOU GET AN INTERVENTION!
EVERYBODY GETS AN INTERVENTION!


(http://i.imgur.com/JNhU5Tt.gif)

fun to see how people can't see the actual good i'm pointing out here without picking the chit out of it
Title: Re: was never a fan of...
Post by: rocket surgeon on May 31, 2017, 12:15:08 PM
Quote from: real chili 83 on May 31, 2017, 08:41:23 AM
^^^^^this

much much better
Title: Re: was never a fan of...
Post by: Jockey on May 31, 2017, 01:08:20 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on May 30, 2017, 09:27:10 PM
You realize that these two sentences contradict each other.

And even after all her millions of dollars of philanthropy, mentoring of young girls, etc., this is the one thing that makes you a fan?

Don't get me wrong; she has her flaws, including being an insufferable self-promoter, but what she did for Jaime Foxx is far from being her only admirable act.

Giving to women's causes is a negative for many people.

Women are still looked at as inferior by many. That is why birth control is no longer mandated to be covered by insurance. It is why some men in power are pushing to have womenhood be seen as a pre-existing condition. It is why Viagra will always be covered. It is why many men think that women who are raped should not have the right of choice.

But we get what we ask for.
Title: Re: was never a fan of...
Post by: jficke13 on May 31, 2017, 01:31:26 PM
Quote from: Jockey on May 31, 2017, 01:08:20 PM
Giving to women's causes is a negative for many people.

Women are still looked at as inferior by many. That is why birth control is no longer mandated to be covered by insurance. It is why some men in power are pushing to have womenhood be seen as a pre-existing condition. It is why Viagra will always be covered. It is why many men think that women who are raped should not have the right of choice.

But we get what we ask for.

Yep, thread's going places alright.
Title: Re: was never a fan of...
Post by: GGGG on May 31, 2017, 01:55:35 PM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 31, 2017, 12:12:35 PM
nope!  didn't say this either, but get back in line and give 'er another shot, 'ey?

You said this:  " don't follow nor care about her philanthropy and young girl mentoring.  not saying it isn't "good", but with all her money, who knows what her motivations are."


Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 31, 2017, 12:14:06 PM
fun to see how people can't see the actual good i'm pointing out here without picking the chit out of it

Because you had to give it all sorts of qualifiers first.
Title: Re: was never a fan of...
Post by: rocket surgeon on May 31, 2017, 02:13:39 PM
Quote from: jficke13 on May 31, 2017, 01:31:26 PM
Yep, thread's going places alright.

geeeeez!!  can't we just go with this part?

       "  she not only saved jaime's career, his dignity, self-worth, but most importantly his life.  i may not agree with her politics, but this was above and beyond.  this is what humans do for other humans.  it takes a lot of courage to do this for someone.  she realized that she was probably one of the few who could this pull off. 
good luck and hang in there mr. fox and good on ya oprah!" 

     i actually meant for this to be positive.  yes there were a few qualifiers, but let's be honest here-ya'll know where the criticism is coming from and why. 
Title: Re: was never a fan of...
Post by: jsglow on May 31, 2017, 02:33:29 PM
Quote from: Jockey on May 31, 2017, 01:08:20 PM
Giving to women's causes is a negative for many people.

Women are still looked at as inferior by many. That is why birth control is no longer mandated to be covered by insurance. It is why some men in power are pushing to have womenhood be seen as a pre-existing condition. It is why Viagra will always be covered. It is why many men think that women who are raped should not have the right of choice.

But we get what we ask for.
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Title: Re: was never a fan of...
Post by: mu03eng on May 31, 2017, 02:53:23 PM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 31, 2017, 02:13:39 PM
geeeeez!!  can't we just go with this part?

       "  she not only saved jaime's career, his dignity, self-worth, but most importantly his life.  i may not agree with her politics, but this was above and beyond.  this is what humans do for other humans.  it takes a lot of courage to do this for someone.  she realized that she was probably one of the few who could this pull off. 
good luck and hang in there mr. fox and good on ya oprah!" 

     i actually meant for this to be positive.  yes there were a few qualifiers, but let's be honest here-ya'll know where the criticism is coming from and why.

Here's the question....why did you feel the need to put qualifiers at all? Not trying to attack, just curious as to why, if you wanted to be positive you decided to qualify at all. What would have happened if you had simply said "Look at this person and what they've done. Isn't that great, wish more would do this type of thing"
Title: Re: was never a fan of...
Post by: rocket surgeon on May 31, 2017, 03:22:02 PM
Quote from: mu03eng on May 31, 2017, 02:53:23 PM
Here's the question....why did you feel the need to put qualifiers at all? Not trying to attack, just curious as to why, if you wanted to be positive you decided to qualify at all. What would have happened if you had simply said "Look at this person and what they've done. Isn't that great, wish more would do this type of thing"

   chick made me do it ;D

point well taken.  it just kinda came out before my 2nd cup of coffee could take affect this morning
Title: Re: was never a fan of...
Post by: muwarrior69 on May 31, 2017, 03:38:39 PM
I love Oprah! Just don't agree with her politics.
Title: Re: was never a fan of...
Post by: mu03eng on May 31, 2017, 04:21:19 PM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 31, 2017, 03:22:02 PM
   chick made me do it ;D

point well taken.  it just kinda came out before my 2nd cup of coffee could take affect this morning

Fair enough, you just became the unlucky victim in my personal crusade to teach people "it's not so much what you say, but how you say it."
Title: Re: was never a fan of...
Post by: MU82 on May 31, 2017, 07:27:02 PM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 31, 2017, 03:22:02 PM
   chick made me do it ;D

point well taken.  it just kinda came out before my 2nd cup of coffee could take affect this morning

I'm gonna give you an out, rocket, and just assume you were channeling your inner chicos.
Title: Re: was never a fan of...
Post by: jesmu84 on May 31, 2017, 07:41:34 PM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 31, 2017, 03:22:02 PM
   chick made me do it ;D

point well taken.  it just kinda came out before my 2nd cup of coffee could take affect this morning

Oh. So the original post were your honest thoughts before you woke up enough to think through censoring yourself. Good to know.
Title: Re: was never a fan of...
Post by: 4everwarriors on May 31, 2017, 08:19:55 PM
Y'all need ta stay in y'all lanes, ai na?
Title: Re: was never a fan of...
Post by: rocket surgeon on May 31, 2017, 09:03:47 PM
Quote from: MU82 on May 31, 2017, 07:27:02 PM
I'm gonna give you an out, rocket, and just assume you were channeling your inner chicos.

  and chicos lives on!! 
Title: Re: was never a fan of...
Post by: real chili 83 on May 31, 2017, 09:09:09 PM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 31, 2017, 09:03:47 PM
  and chicos lives on!!

Chicos knows Oprah.
Title: Re: was never a fan of...
Post by: MU82 on May 31, 2017, 11:58:45 PM
Quote from: real chili 83 on May 31, 2017, 09:09:09 PM
Chicos knows Oprah.

Ha!  8-)
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