Will hire agent. He gone.
Too bad for Creighton.
Not surprised.
Nor heartbroken!
Like most, he needs a ton of work, too.
I mean, Luke totally schooled him in the first meeting and played him no worst than even the second time. Patton just might find slightly more difficult competition in the Association.
What else does Creighton have coming back? Between Watson and Patton that's gotta be a pretty gutted team.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on April 05, 2017, 07:49:45 PM
What else does Creighton have coming back? Between Watson and Patton that's gotta be a pretty gutted team.
Patton is a big loss, but they do return Hegner, along with two role-players in Hanson and Krampelj. They've got Epperson too, though I'm not sure he'll play much this year.
As far as Watson, they replace him with Syracuse transfer Kaleb Joseph, who was top-50 coming out of high school but never settled in with the Orange.
They also have Foster, Thomas, Harrell, and Mintz returning. They'll be okay, but I felt with Patton they were a top-10 team. Now, knock them down a few notches.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on April 05, 2017, 07:49:45 PM
What else does Creighton have coming back? Between Watson and Patton that's gotta be a pretty gutted team.
Without looking, I do think they have a couple impact transfers who sat out this year and IIRC, one of them is a center.
Can't imagine Creighton envisioned this when they red shirted Patton as a freshman.
Quote from: MU82 on April 05, 2017, 07:33:07 PM
Like most, he needs a ton of work, too.
I mean, Luke totally schooled him in the first meeting and played him no worst than even the second time. Patton just might find slightly more difficult competition in the Association.
I couldn't agree more. Seems to have a nice game and good athleticism, but is nowhere near ready. His defensive abilities or, rather, the lack thereof, would have fit in well with us this year.
Stinks for the Big East and Creighton. It would have been a shock if he stayed. Weird, that Creighton red-shirted him in 2015-16
Hope it all works out for him.
Quote from: bradley center bat on April 05, 2017, 08:06:20 PM
Stinks for the Big East and Creighton. It would have been a shock if he stayed. Weird, that Creighton red-shirted him in 2015-16
Yeah, the redshirt helped Patton. CU? Not so much.
MU kicked their ass twice with him. Next year thrice. Not a NBA playa.
If he develops a mid range/ face up game i think he could last a little while. I see him going late first or early second
Dude's going to break the bank. Good for him. And good for MU.
Ummmm foster only led the Big East in scoring, but agree they gonna suffer
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on April 05, 2017, 10:12:05 PM
MU kicked their ass twice with him. Next year thrice. Not a NBA playa.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on April 06, 2017, 02:18:53 AM
Ummmm foster only led the Big East in scoring, but agree they gonna suffer
Foster didn't lead the BE in scoring.
He did and harrel n khyri thomas are really good. Hegner is ok a poor mans wragge. They will be a solid team next year, ncaa possibilities if the transfers are legit. Foster will be first team all BE, and we had no one that could stop thomas or harrell. Thats not nevessarily saying alot but hose three are really hard to guard and athletic.
However, as they showed this year, without Patton they are really weak in the middle. Prolly andouble digit seed tho if the transfers are at least adequate
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on April 06, 2017, 06:52:55 AM
He did and harrel n khyri thomas are really good. Hegner is ok a poor mans wragge. They will be a solid team next year, ncaa possibilities if the transfers are legit. Foster will be first team all BE, and we had no one that could stop thomas or harrell. Thats not nevessarily saying alot but hose three are really hard to guard and athletic.
However, as they showed this year, without Patton they are really weak in the middle. Prolly andouble digit seed tho if the transfers are at least adequate
No, he didn't.
Patton leaving hurts Creighton, but its also good for the BE and Creighton (long-term). The more NBA players the new incarnation of the Big East can get, the better. It's also really good for parity.
I like our position moving into next year. We have a strong core coming back, and, by all appearances, will be adding some veteran leadership very soon.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 06, 2017, 08:00:23 AM
No, he didn't.
You just don't understand how #alternativefacts work, wades.
Quote from: MU82 on April 05, 2017, 07:33:07 PM
Like most, he needs a ton of work, too.
I mean, Luke totally schooled him in the first meeting and played him no worst than even the second time. Patton just might find slightly more difficult competition in the Association.
And like Henry, he can console himself by rolling around in stacks of benjamins.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 06, 2017, 08:00:23 AM
No, he didn't.
FFS, he was .5 from Hart overall and .2 from Hart in conference. They both scored 18 points a game if you go without fractions.
There's plenty to be a dick about but harping on this is petty. Not surprising though.
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on April 06, 2017, 09:22:53 AM
FFS, he was .5 from Hart overall and .2 from Hart in conference. They both scored 18 points a game if you go without fractions.
There's plenty to be a dick about but harping on this is petty. Not surprising though.
So you're saying...he didn't lead the BE in scoring? Thanks, we agree.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 06, 2017, 09:29:13 AM
So you're saying...he didn't lead the BE in scoring? Thanks, we agree.
Well, sure if want to use #actualfacts. But have you ever considered #alternativefacts?
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on April 06, 2017, 09:31:19 AM
Well, sure if want to use #actualfacts. But have you ever considered #alternativefacts?
Haha. I try to. But they get really confusing sometimes.
Quote from: MU82 on April 06, 2017, 09:20:13 AM
So let me get this straight ... he was DOMINATED by the guy you consider the worst center ever to lace up sneakers, but you're sure he's gonna be an NBA player?
I guess that makes Luke, what? The No. 1 overall pick?
(I actually agree that Patton will play in the NBA, but it's hilarious how you go out of your way to rip a guy - supposedly on your favorite team - who dominated him.)
This. Yes, he will get drafted for his potential, but at 225lbs, he won't be a "playa". His game is in the paint and that won't translate in the NBA. He doesn't have that Kevin Durant skill set.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 06, 2017, 09:34:37 AM
Haha. I try to. But they get really confusing sometimes.
How so? They allow facts to be whatever you want and believe them to be! Easy!
"Fact: Luke is the worst player ever and totally didn't outplay future NBAer Patton." See? Easy!
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on April 06, 2017, 09:50:54 AM
This. Yes, he will get drafted for his potential, but at 225lbs, he won't be a "playa". His game is in the paint and that won't translate in the NBA. He doesn't have that Kevin Durant skill set.
He's 19 years old. He will get bigger and stronger.
See: Chandler, Tyson; Camby, Marcus.
(Note: Not saying Patton will be as good as Camby or Chandler, just pointing out that skinny teenagers can grow into "playas.")
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on April 06, 2017, 09:22:53 AM
FFS, he was .5 from Hart overall and .2 from Hart in conference. They both scored 18 points a game if you go without fractions.
There's plenty to be a dick about but harping on this is petty. Not surprising though.
I don't think it's harping on it to call someone out for making a false statement twice. If MSK didn't double down, no reason for wades to call him out. When you double down on inaccuracies, you invite criticism.
Quote from: MU82 on April 06, 2017, 09:20:13 AM
So let me get this straight ... he was DOMINATED by the guy you consider the worst center ever to lace up sneakers, but you're sure he's gonna be an NBA player?
I guess that makes Luke, what? The No. 1 overall pick?
(I actually agree that Patton will play in the NBA, but it's hilarious how you go out of your way to rip a guy - supposedly on your favorite team - who dominated him.)
If you think luke having his best game of the year in a game where patton had massive early foul trouble proves anything than good for you
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on April 06, 2017, 04:33:43 PM
If you think luke having his best game of the year in a game where patton had massive early foul trouble proves anything than good for you
Who was Patton fouling?
Good luck to Mr. Patton. Mr. S-K, you are just a sad, angry, pitiable little man. Anything to keep your false narrative going.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on April 06, 2017, 04:33:43 PM
If you think luke having his best game of the year in a game where patton had massive early foul trouble proves anything than good for you
The only reason Patton was in foul trouble is because Luke kicked his ass down low. Absolutely took him completely out of the game.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 06, 2017, 05:59:00 PM
The only reason Patton was in foul trouble is because Luke kicked his ass down low. Absolutely took him completely out of the game.
Ye, he did.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on April 06, 2017, 04:33:43 PM
If you think luke having his best game of the year in a game where patton had massive early foul trouble proves anything than good for you
Did you even watch the game? Luke effen schooled him and drew foul after foul on him.
I know facts aren't your friend, Mr. Sand-Troll, but you gotta at least pretend you saw the game.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on April 06, 2017, 04:33:43 PM
If you think luke having his best game of the year in a game where patton had massive early foul trouble proves anything than good for you
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Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on April 06, 2017, 04:33:43 PM
If you think luke having his best game of the year in a game where patton had massive early foul trouble proves anything than good for you
Pathetic