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A theoretical poll in the event Crean talks his way into the Georgetown job. Will Georgetown become our top rivalry. I think of all the teams in the Big East it is the one generally liked least by most MU fans. Yes and I know Crean sucks and ND sucks.

Before every Georgetown game this board will have posts titled:
MUST WIN GAME!!

(And wades will always have the 5th post that says "next game is the most important")

Quote from: fjm on March 31, 2017, 01:55:33 PM
Before every Georgetown game this board will have posts titled:
MUST WIN GAME!!

(And wades will always have the 5th post that says "next game is the most important")

Focus on this one game. We're fans and can't afford to look past a single game.

We don't have a rival.   Sort of an independent in an East Coast league, not a big problem, who needs a rival, it is what it is.

Providence mentioned but Notre Dame not? Someone's only been watching Marquette about 5 minutes...

PC is far from a rival. 

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 31, 2017, 02:30:07 PM
Providence mentioned but Notre Dame not? Someone's only been watching Marquette about 5 minutes...

Syracuse, West-by-God, Cincinnati, Louisville, Pitt, back in the day, Loyola, DePaul, St. Louis, and Detroit.  Rivalries take decades to form.  Knocking someone out of the tournament is a good place to start looking.
They try and make Seton Hall and St. Johns rivals, but it will never happen.  Rival Saturday, please.

Providence is a conference opponent.   Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Louisville are rivals.   

Striving to reach Ed Cooley level in the eyes of the committee makes us rivals.

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 31, 2017, 02:30:07 PM
Providence mentioned but Notre Dame not? Someone's only been watching Marquette about 5 minutes...

No kidding.  When did Providence become a rival?  Don't we have like .667 winning % against them?  Only the nail thinks the hammer is its rival.

Notre Dame is a one way rival, they don't give a rat's ass about us.  Nix that idea
Loserville is history.  Got to play someone on a regular basis to be a rival.
No one but the cheds care about Wisconsin.  When you mention UW to my kids think of Washington, as they should.
Georgetown is an arrogant dumpster fire. 

The providence games have acquired an edge and are certainly starting to feel like rivalry games.  I voted for the Friars and hope that at some point in time it becomes a true rivalry.

Quote from: PJDunn on March 31, 2017, 03:18:14 PM
Notre Dame is a one way rival, they don't give a rat's ass about us.  Nix that idea
Loserville is history.  Got to play someone on a regular basis to be a rival.
No one but the cheds care about Wisconsin.  When you mention UW to my kids think of Washington, as they should.
Georgetown is an arrogant dumpster fire. 

The providence games have acquired an edge and are certainly starting to feel like rivalry games.  I voted for the Friars and hope that at some point in time it becomes a true rivalry.

Lol. You write off everyone except...Providence?

Quote from: vogue65 on March 31, 2017, 02:55:19 PM
Syracuse, West-by-God, Cincinnati, Louisville, Pitt, back in the day, Loyola, DePaul, St. Louis, and Detroit.  Rivalries take decades to form.  Knocking someone out of the tournament is a good place to start looking.
They try and make Seton Hall and St. Johns rivals, but it will never happen.  Rival Saturday, please.

Those were some great games

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 31, 2017, 02:30:07 PM
Providence mentioned but Notre Dame not? Someone's only been watching Marquette about 5 minutes...

Again I'm with brew... 76 was our best team and Notre Dame is/was our top rival...the old man has spoken

Dude, wear ya been at? Just lurkin' four da past 9 years? Orr are ya Too Tanned Tommy, hey?

Quote from: PJDunn on March 31, 2017, 03:18:14 PM
Notre Dame is a one way rival, they don't give a rat's ass about us.  Nix that idea
Loserville is history.  Got to play someone on a regular basis to be a rival.
No one but the cheds care about Wisconsin.  When you mention UW to my kids think of Washington, as they should.
Georgetown is an arrogant dumpster fire. 

The providence games have acquired an edge and are certainly starting to feel like rivalry games.  I voted for the Friars and hope that at some point in time it becomes a true rivalry.

I think a lot of the FIbs would rate UW as a top rivalry as well. In fact if you look on a lot of lists it's on a lot of the most underrated or best rivalries in college basketball.

ND used to care, they just act like they don't. I was at the game there in 2011 and it was completely packed. Plus a lot of people have friends or family that went there which makes grounds for a rivalry not to mention the history against them.

Where's the choice for Liberty?

I am the voice of reason.  Anyone who thinks that ND is a rival in 2017 is crazy.  That rivalry is dead.  So is Louisville.  I'll give you Wisconsin for the BMI challenged subset of our fan base.  Give me Providence.

Quote from: PJDunn on March 31, 2017, 05:01:42 PM
I am the voice of reason.  Anyone who thinks that ND is a rival in 2017 is crazy.  That rivalry is dead.  So is Louisville.  I'll give you Wisconsin for the BMI challenged subset of our fan base.  Give me Providence.

PC is not a rival. They had never even beaten MU at MU EVER until this year.

Xavier. Skyline is just a cheap imitation of Real Chili.

Quote from: PJDunn on March 31, 2017, 05:01:42 PM
I am the voice of reason.  Anyone who thinks that ND is a rival in 2017 is crazy.  That rivalry is dead.  So is Louisville.  I'll give you Wisconsin for the BMI challenged subset of our fan base.  Give me Providence.

Dead or on pause?

It's only been three years. I refuse to believe the ND rivalry is completely dead forever.

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on March 31, 2017, 05:21:15 PM
Dead or on pause?

It's only been three years. I refuse to believe the ND rivalry is completely dead forever.

Kinda feels like it's dead. Didn't really feel that much like a rivalry when we were both in the Big East, in my opinion

I really wish that Wojo and Brey would kick their Duke code of honor to the curb.  I really would like to see an annual ND-MU game at the United Center.

Quote from: Eldon on March 31, 2017, 06:06:56 PM
I really wish that Wojo and Brey would kick their Duke code of honor to the curb.  I really would like to see an annual ND-MU game at the United Center.

I don't think it's a Wojo/Brey thing. From hints on the board, I think it's strictly a Brey thing. Scholl has mentioned having talks and it seems like it's ND saying no.

If not Providence...Seton Hall, Creighton, XU??  Got to stop living in the past.  No more ND or Loserville.

Quote from: tower912 on March 31, 2017, 02:59:14 PM
Providence is a conference opponent.   Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Louisville are rivals.

How long can you go without playing a team before they are no longer a rival?

Bucky and Notre Dame can suck it.

Historically ND is the most important rivalry.  Only one coach gets beer poured on his head.  They need to play us to claim "best Catholic basketball U" but they won't for some silly reasons.  Administrations need to bring it back.  Plus it strengthens the non-conference schedule and will fill both arenas.

Quote from: PJDunn on March 31, 2017, 05:01:42 PM
I am the voice of reason.  Anyone who thinks that ND is a rival in 2017 is crazy.  That rivalry is dead.  So is Louisville.  I'll give you Wisconsin for the BMI challenged subset of our fan base.  Give me Providence.

Turd

Or Heisendomer Jr

ND sucks

ND is still a rival because we haven't played in a few years and I still want to throw stuff at the TV when I watch them play.   

This seems like a multiple choice question from the LSAT... no right answer and four bad answers, one of which might be slightly less bad than the other three.

I find it interesting that last year ND found room to play Villanova, but not MU.   
Syracuse still plays Connecticut, Georgetown and St. Jowns out of league.
I don't think MU really cares about rivalries.

This is a good off-season poll topic. Credit where credit is due. But for now and for always, unnatural carnal knowledge the Badgers first and foremost and then all over again.

Well I believe you at least have to play bi yearly to truly be a rival.so let's throw out all the good teams. Syracuse nd Pitt Louisville (Damn those years were fun)

DePaul was. They haven't been good in years. Losing to them isn't infuriating it's more of a '' wow we are bad'' moment. So they gone.

Georgetown: was hoping they would be the big rival coming into the new conference. Thinking Georgetown and marquette would run the conference. Oops.

Butler: my other top pick for rival coming into the conference. The year before they knocked us out in the maui semis by a nut halfcourter. Vander returned the favor in the tournament on our way to an elite 8. Proximity was close. Then they lost Stevens. Hasn't really felt like big games since that year.

Wisconsin is our defacto rival but really we need a bigger conference rival who won't whine about them not caring since football is on anytime they get hammered.

That leaves us with two teams who actually have the ability to be a strong team year in and year out.

Xavier and Nova. These should be our rivals.

Quote from: vogue65 on March 31, 2017, 11:59:21 PM
I find it interesting that last year ND found room to play Villanova, but not MU.   
Syracuse still plays Connecticut, Georgetown and St. Jowns out of league.
I don't think MU really cares about rivalries.

Might have been marquettes timidness to schedule a decent ooc in the past 3 years. Let's see what they bring to the table over the next two.

Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on April 01, 2017, 02:19:12 AM
Might have been marquettes timidness to schedule a decent ooc in the past 3 years. Let's see what they bring to the table over the next two.

I think that rivalries need be close enough so students can get to the games and there are enough alumni to have an impact at the road games.  When Syracuse plays St. Johns at MSG the orange and red are everywhere.   

Just for the record, in the 60',  after the football season and before ND went coed, the ND students would converge on our campus looking for "dates".  Did that make them rivals?

Quote from: WarriorFan on March 31, 2017, 07:53:45 PM
Historically ND is the most important rivalry.  Only one coach gets beer poured on his head.  They need to play us to claim "best Catholic basketball U" but they won't for some silly reasons.  Administrations need to bring it back.  Plus it strengthens the non-conference schedule and will fill both arenas.

Clearly because they are afraid. Cowering, sniveling, hiding in mommy's basement afraid. Marquette has been trying to get that game done and ND keeps ducking us.

Cowards may not have a choice but to play us next year.

Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on April 01, 2017, 02:19:12 AM
Might have been marquettes timidness to schedule a decent ooc in the past 3 years. Let's see what they bring to the table over the next two.

Last, I heard it's not Marquette that's not interested -- it's Mike Brey.

That info is a few years old, but our AD used to work for ND.  Whatever the reason is, it's not lack of access.

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 31, 2017, 02:30:07 PM
Providence mentioned but Notre Dame not? Someone's only been watching Marquette about 5 minutes...

Since no dick dumped us and we do not play anymore, they are not a rival. Now areal good poll would be who is more hated, UW or No Dick. It would be close but I am betting that No Dicks bs arrogance would pull it out.