Rowsey is very skilled at jumping into a defender when shooting the three and drawing the foul. He did it twice again against South Carolina (and made the shot to start the game).
Question 1 - Is he the best at doing this? Who is better?
Question 2 - Is this something they practice? Do other teams practice this? Given Howard's three-point shooting and very high FT%, this would be an awesome skill to develop to keep defenders off him next year.
Thoughts?
Got some Sam Cassell in him.
Fantastic weapon to have in one's back pocket for a couple of reasons. First is the obvious. Second is the slight hesitation a defender will have in his mind giving Wowsey just a little more room to get his shot off without a hand in his face.
Quote from: jsglow on March 19, 2017, 10:55:58 AM
Got some Sam Cassell in him.
Fantastic weapon to have in one's back pocket for a couple of reasons. First is the obvious. Second is the slight hesitation a defender will have in his mind giving Wowsey just a little more room to get his shot off without a hand in his face.
Exactly
And everyone is going to be in Howard's jersey next year. If Rowsey can teach him this skill, and with Howard also a 90+% FT shooter, it will give him the room he needs to get his shot off.
I'm thinking it has to do with Rowsey's height. He knows that sometimes taller defenders jump at him, and he's realized he can't shoot over them. By giving them something else to think about on defense, it allows some tentative defenders to be shot over. Plus, his release is unreal. If he were a gunslinger, everyone else would be dead.
Quote from: AZMarqfan on March 19, 2017, 01:13:12 PM
I'm thinking it has to do with Rowsey's height. He knows that sometimes taller defenders jump at him, and he's realized he can't shoot over them. By giving them something else to think about on defense, it allows some tentative defenders to be shot over. Plus, his release is unreal. If he were a gunslinger, everyone else would be dead.
agree ... which is why this would also work for a 5' 11" Howard, and less so for a 6' 6" Hauser.
It's been used casually before, but I am now officially coining the verb "to Rowsey", which is defined as "to draw a foul by jumping into a defender while attempting a shot beyond the 3-point arc". See also the noun "Rowsey", definded as "a foul drawn beyond the 3-point line by jumping into a defender while attempting a shot beyond the 3-point arc".
I predict that between Markus and Andrew, we will be seeing a lot of Rowseying next season.
Quote from: warriorchick on March 19, 2017, 06:26:47 PM
I predict that between Markus and Andrew, we will be seeing a lot of Rowseying next season.
Thats an aRowseying thought
Can one bee arowsed, hey?
Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 19, 2017, 01:52:16 PM
agree ... which is why this would also work for a 5' 11" Howard, and less so for a 6' 6" Hauser.
Remember the pump fake from the Pitt player in the late 2000's (young?). Essentially opened up the drive or drew a foul when deployed. Would be a very effective move for a moderately quick guy like Sam.
What is being described as "a Rowsey" is actually an offensive foul. What Andrew does is a bit more involved. He shot fakes to get his defender into the air then he follows through on his shot while the defender is forced by his own momentum into Rowsey.
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 19, 2017, 08:26:58 PM
Remember the pump fake from the Pitt player in the late 2000's (young?). Essentially opened up the drive or drew a foul when deployed. Would be a very effective move for a moderately quick guy like Sam.
That guy drove me crazy. If I remember right, he would actually roll up onto his toes, making it all the more convincing.
I have been saying since about a month into the BE season that I have never seen a player so successful at drawing fouls while shooting 3-pointers.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was an NCAA record - and probably by miles - although I'm guessing there is no such official stat.
It is amazing to watch, though. The fact that he's chucked a few of them in, including that incredible left-handed one a month or two back, is doubly incredible.
Rowsey often switches hands and shoots with his left hand when pulling a Rowsey. I don't know if that's intentional, but I've noticed it a few times.
Quote from: Litehouse on March 20, 2017, 04:10:03 AM
Rowsey often switches hands and shoots with his left hand when pulling a Rowsey. I don't know if that's intentional, but I've noticed it a few times.
Of course it's intentional. What is the alternative ... that it's accidental?
The defender is on his right side when contact is made. In those cases, the only chance he has to get the shot close to the basket is by using his left hand. It's quite remarkable.
Quote from: 4everCrean on March 19, 2017, 09:16:58 PM
What is being described as "a Rowsey" is actually an offensive foul. What Andrew does is a bit more involved. He shot fakes to get his defender into the air then he follows through on his shot while the defender is forced by his own momentum into Rowsey.
A little leeway on your correct technical definition kind sir. I do think he sometimes gets away with a lean which is supposed to be a no call. But he's so good at it that refs will give it to him. Michael Jordan traveled and nobody ever got that call either.
Quote from: 4everCrean on March 19, 2017, 09:16:58 PM
What is being described as "a Rowsey" is actually an offensive foul. What Andrew does is a bit more involved. He shot fakes to get his defender into the air then he follows through on his shot while the defender is forced by his own momentum into Rowsey.
Well, that is what I meant. I apologize for not using the correct terms per the official Referee Handbook.
While not drawing fouls on the three, Jimmy Butler could draw fouls when driving on the basket. There are others as well that should be reviewed and studied.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 19, 2017, 06:50:58 PM
Can one bee arowsed, hey?
Yep...the defenders who fall for it.
Quote from: MU82 on March 19, 2017, 11:12:22 PM
I have been saying since about a month into the BE season that I have never seen a player so successful at drawing fouls while shooting 3-pointers.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was an NCAA record - and probably by miles - although I'm guessing there is no such official stat.
It is amazing to watch, though. The fact that he's chucked a few of them in, including that incredible left-handed one a month or two back, is doubly incredible.
the first one was against Providence in the game immediately following the Nova win. He did it to open the game vs. S.C. on Friday.
Quote from: jsglow on March 20, 2017, 06:52:27 AM
A little leeway on your correct technical definition kind sir. I do think he sometimes gets away with a lean which is supposed to be a no call. But he's so good at it that refs will give it to him. Michael Jordan traveled and nobody ever got that call either.
He can lean as long as the defender is moving horizontal. It's when he leans into a player only moving vertical that it's a no call.
Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on March 21, 2017, 02:02:02 PM
He can lean as long as the defender is moving horizontal. It's when he leans into a player only moving vertical that it's a no call.
This. If memory serves, the rule on an offensive player initiating contact is explicitly excluded during a jump shot when contact by a defensive player is imminent; even if the offensive player jumps or leans a) into the shot or b) to avoid a defender, it can only be called as a defensive foul since either (jumping or leaning) is a natural basketball motion. Consider what happened to SFA vs. VCU a couple years ago:
https://www.youtube.com/v/HRRpQgHX70M
Haymon was clearly jumping forward as he shot the ball (even with the contact he still landed about 1-2 feet ahead of where he jumped), and had he jumped straight up in the air, no contact would have been made. But that's a foul on the defense, every time, because the offensive player is entitled to his "shooting space" when taking a jump shot.
In short, you can't lay down on the floor as you're shooting in the hope that the defender grazes you as he lands, but as a shooter, you're still entitled to an extra foot or two of space whether you jump, lean, shimmy, or scissor-kick into an airborne defender provided it is done either into the shot or to avoid a defender (i.e. if you have a clear shot at the hoop, you can't jump laterally or backwards into a defender and draw a foul).